Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

[Searcher08]

It is political economy, not conspiracy theory, that explains what is fundamentally wrong with society—understanding power relations and wealth inequities.

What utter utter binary nonsense.

Jesus, it drives me nuts sometime when the reductionist machine-brained left does this - everything has to be reduced to 'bite sized concepts" like 'political economy' through which 'everything' can be explained - and wheels out patronising pseudo-skepticism to pooh pooh viewpoints which might challenge that whole enterprise as... the 'just not getting it" brigade.

Trying to understand what is happening purely through mapping power relations and wealth inequalities doesnt even work in trying to understand how an organisation such as a fucking business works, nevermind an economy. Seriously, you talk about Triage? Well if you were doing organisational consulting or turnaround, your patient would be frickken DEAD if you just look at it through power relations.

Have to admit, pseudoskeptics drive me round the frikkin bend - a whiners club for the self-righteous forces of orthodoxy - a cognitive Mediocracy.

[Searcher08]

Loved this--every single post I read, vid I viewed and poster's personal angle. I believe RI is drying up from time to time until I come across threads like this..Thanks all!

and Thank You too!!

[Laodicean]

So Jack London was an elf too I guess. And when he was tripping on DMT with the "Philomaths", he learned to keep tedious notes of their discussions and secrets back in 1907. Yeah, nothing to do with historic wealth distribution and power. It was fucking elves! Tolkin was in on it...and now

[American Dream]

[JackRiddler]

It is political economy, not conspiracy theory, that explains what is fundamentally wrong with society—understanding power relations and wealth inequities.

What utter utter binary nonsense.

Jesus, it drives me nuts sometime when the reductionist machine-brained left does this - everything has to be reduced to 'bite sized concepts" like 'political economy' through which 'everything' can be explained - and wheels out patronising pseudo-skepticism to pooh pooh viewpoints which might challenge that whole enterprise as... the 'just not getting it" brigade.

Trying to understand what is happening purely through mapping power relations and wealth inequalities doesnt even work in trying to understand how an organisation such as a fucking business works, nevermind an economy. Seriously, you talk about Triage? Well if you were doing organisational consulting or turnaround, your patient would be frickken DEAD if you just look at it through power relations.

Have to admit, pseudoskeptics drive me round the frikkin bend - a whiners club for the self-righteous forces of orthodoxy - a cognitive Mediocracy.

You know, I'm going to quote that out of respect, because I like the texture even if I disagree with the primary thesis (a sufficiently developed political economy should go well beyond simple power relations into social psychology, emotion and belief, and be able to explain how a fucking business works, and triage too). Because you should keep my materialist ass on its toes.

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[82_28]

I would only like to point out that AJ said DMT elves ordered the Large Hadron Collider to be built.

Well, the atom bomb was conceived in a U.S. government lab by a team of scientists and mathematicians who would hold regular meetings on the project where you were not welcome unless you were tripping on acid.

So you really never fucking know with these things.

You can get hints of shit through the archives. America (seriously) needs a party called the "Archival Party". Anyways, here's this I've been sitting on for awhile, and because of this comment, psynapz, I finally found a home for it.



September 7th, 1977

[Saurian Tail]

'Conspiranoia' obviously happens here. <snip> If anyone has thoughts on preventative medicine and a vaccine, i'm all ears.

Actually, there is a vaccine against personal sloppy thinking and societal mental manipulation ... it is called the Trivium.

The Trivium is the root of classical education that is no longer taught except in some private schools and in ivy league level universities. It's purpose is to set forward a system and set of rules for learning a subject and determining the validity of claims to truth. Jan Irvin at GnosticMedia calls it his "bullshit detector".

http://www.triviumeducation.com/

When a person makes a case for why they believe something is true ... or why you should listen to what they are saying ... their argument must be logically sound. When a person regularly uses logical fallacies to make their case, you are justified in considering their information and/or motives to be questionable. It might even be a wise use of time and attention to simply ignore someone whose information regularly contains fallacies.

Lists of logical fallacies:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skep ... ments.html

The Trivium is not a reductionist tool ... it is a tool for getting at truth and weeding out nonsense. Consider the difference between Jeff Wells and Alex Jones. These guys are dealing with similar information ... but one is making appropriate use of logic and rhetoric to communicate his message and the other is just making a mess. After hearing the message, you walk away smarter in one case and dumber in the other.

On message boards, there are no "rules" requiring someone to make a coherent argument. There is no judge around to evaluate who is winning or losing an argument. In fact, anyone can say anything at all. As a result, the primary voices are often those who have the most deeply held convictions or the most combative personalities. But just because someone passionately believes their cause is just and their ideas are sound doesn't make those ideas true. Asking someone to provide evidence for their personal convictions is not necessarily a personal attack.

Along the same lines, Rigorous Intuition makes use of intuition to gather diverse information and to use intuitive insights to form hypotheses that can be then be tested to see if they are consistent with logic and facts. This is not at all the same thing as gathering diverse information to see if it resonates or not. I think that is an important distinction.

Finally, Dorothy Sayers has written the classic essay on how our education system has failed to teach us how to learn in The Lost Tools of Learning ... it is definitely worth the time to read it: http://www.triviumeducation.com/texts/T ... arning.pdf

Regards,

-ST

[Laodicean]

Make it STOP!

[Wombaticus Rex]

This thread was pure LULZ, a beautiful throbbing microcosm of why our strange and micraculous movement was so fucked to begin with.

[Canadian_watcher]

for watcher and wintler

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peace y'all

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[Perelandra]

Well, the atom bomb was conceived in a U.S. government lab by a team of scientists and mathematicians who would hold regular meetings on the project where you were not welcome unless you were tripping on acid.

I've never heard of that before, do you have a source on that? I'm not having a lot of luck on it with google atm...

Seconded, it doesn't seem possible to me, though I could be wrong.

[JackRiddler]

Make it STOP!

Oh god.

[JackRiddler]

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ST, thank you so much for those thoughts...

Along the same lines, Rigorous Intuition makes use of intuition to gather diverse information and to use intuitive insights to form hypotheses that can be then be tested to see if they are consistent with logic and facts. This is not at all the same thing as gathering diverse information to see if it resonates or not. I think that is an important distinction.

Ah, that is a very important distinction, and very well put, but RI in fact is daily home to both tendencies. I wish, for starters, that people would keep this distinction in mind and at least know and be explicit about which they are doing.

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[666]

No but seriously....Is Icke's Reptilian/Moon Base theory that far out of the realm of possibilities?
Why is John Carpenter's They Live scenario instantly dismissed as paranoid nuttery?

How much do we actually know about the Universe?
In fact, how much do we actually know about our own planet?

And considering what little we do know about our own immediate surroundings, is based on our minuscule, almost insignificant range of perceivable phenomena, why is the existence of DMT elves and Reptilian Overlords and the like, asinine, idiotic and preposterous?

[JackRiddler]

Why is John Carpenter's They Live scenario instantly dismissed as paranoid nuttery?

Au contraire. I honor it as the director's clearly intended metaphor for class society, with the hidden messages in the ads and on the money as bitter rejections of its most hallowed social institutions. Caricature is an art.

The 10 minute kayfabe fight was also a spectacular in fan service. Kudos to Mr. Keith and Mr. Piper.

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