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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:02 am

Nordic wrote:
8bitagent wrote:100 US troops and hundreds of African forces are scouring the deep jungles of the Congo looking for Kony.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47226591/ns ... 540avnld8E

Maybe they'll find Marlon Brando is at the heart of it all?



If this is true, then the whole story just got even more weird. 'Hey, kids, make a viral video, and if enough people watch it, the government will send in troops to do your bidding!

WTF?

And seriously, why would the U.S. military give a rats ass about Kony? What is really going on there? It ain't what they're telling us, that's for sure.



Heh, I take it you saw this passage?

Yet no other American military project in sub-Saharan Africa has generated the attention — and the high expectations — as the pursuit of Mr. Kony, partly thanks to a wildly popular video on Mr. Kony’s notorious elusiveness and brutality, “Kony 2012,” that set YouTube records with tens of millions of hits in a matter of days. Gen. Carter F. Ham, the overall commander of American forces in Africa, has a “Kony 2012” poster tacked to his office door. As one American official put it: “Let’s be honest, there was some constituent pressure here. Did ‘Kony 2012’ have something to do with this? Absolutely.”



Now again, Im not saying the endless horror Kony has been behind all these years isnt true. Im just wondering why now, given its been years since he was behind any real horror. And what about the even more widespread attrocities that went on, like in the Congo itself that left 5 plus million dead in just a few short years?
It's almost like this is a PR campaign or some other thing altogether. Maybe Kony holds some esoteric artifact the boys back in DC need:)
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:02 am

8bit, his big movie mystery of yours was already solved on page 1 of this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34193#p451797

The Pentagon's drive to expand Africom, find a home for it in Africa and take more (even) more active part in interventions around the continent has been in play for years and years. The force is still headquartered in... Germany. They're hoping for a move to Libya and/or Uganda. The cutting edge on this has been, not among the neocons, but with the cruise-missile humanitarians and the CIA-Christianist evangelicals like the Kony 2012 producers. Whatever its origins, viral schmiral, Kony 2012 is an ideal propaganda device. How far the drive goes at most stages is still going to be up to some MIC budgeting committee. It may look like hundreds of billions of easily blown cash to you or me, but they still fight over it and gosh, there are so many other places to bomb, surveill, infiltrate and destabilize. The work of profit ab chao is never done.

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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Nordic » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:04 pm

As one American official put it: “Let’s be honest, there was some constituent pressure here. Did ‘Kony 2012’ have something to do with this? Absolutely.”


When, in the entire history of the United States, has "constituent pressure" EVER had an affect on U.S. foreign policy?

This is such a spit-in-your-face lie I'm actually stunned.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby MayDay » Tue May 01, 2012 4:58 pm

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/ ... kony_20122

“So, in summary, Invisible Children are expert propagandists with what seems to be a covert religious agenda, advocating military action in Africa while simultaneously recruiting an “army” of young people to join their cause (and their weird Fourth Estate youth camps) and to stand around posing like this [quasi-fascist looking picture], a bit like an army of child soldiers might.”
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Handsome B. Wonderful » Tue May 01, 2012 6:43 pm

I never watched the video to be honest. I didn't want to give the video another hit or view count.
I wonder what the truth is ? How best to put it into a glib explanation? I've seen enough to think that 'Kony 2012' is not what it is.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Tue May 08, 2012 1:34 am

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U.S. Special Forces blame
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    U.S. Special Forces organize a press conference in the Central African Republic and join Ugandan officers in blaming Omar al-Bashir for the survival of East African warlord Joseph Kony.

    KPFA Weekend News Host: Earlier this week, U.S. Special Forces organized a press conference in Uganda, where a Ugandan military spokesman announced that Sudanese President Omar​al-Bashir is harboring Joseph Kony, the East African warlord vilified in the viral video KONY 2012 and pictured alongside Hitler and Osama bin Laden in related graphics. KPFA’s Ann Garrison has the story.

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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:10 pm



Highlights mine.

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    Milton Allimadi told KPFA that there is no such thing as the hunt for Joseph Kony. Nii Akuetteh said that Hillary’s remarks in Africa would be hilarious if the situation weren’t so serious.

    KPFA Weekend News Anchor Cameron Jones: Cynical eyebrows rose on the African continent, and around the world, at Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s admonitions to African U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni at the Ugandan State House in Kampala, August 3, 2012. nations south of the Sahara during her tour of that part of the continent this week. KPFA’s Ann Garrison spoke to Ugandan American newspaper editor Milton Allimadi and Ghanaian American scholar and activist Nii Akuetteh.

    KPFA/Ann Garrison: For the past 12 years, expert UN investigators have reported that the armies of U.S. backed Ugandan General Yoweri Museveni and Rwandan General Paul Kagame have invaded the Democratic Republic of the Congo, overthrown two successive Congolese presidents, committed mass atrocities, and been the principle aggressors in a conflict that has caused the death of over 6 million Congolese people and Rwandan refugees, many of whom have died of starvation, disease, or other hardship in Congo’s internally displaced persons, or IDP camps, or, in refugee camps across its borders. The latest UN report included 48 pages of photographic and other documentary evidence that General Kagame’s army is behind the M23 militia which in April, began the war in eastern Congo again, and has thus far caused nearly half a million more Congolese people to flee their homes. Nevertheless, Secretary Clinton warned Africans to beware nations that support dictatorial African regimes and simply wanted to exploit African resources, by which she obviously meant China.

    And, met with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni about “stepping up the hunt for minor East African warlord Joseph Kony.”

    This was Ugandan American Black Star News Editor Milton Allimadi’s response:

    Milton Allimadi: There’s no such thing as a search for Joseph Kony. We all know that. If the United States, which was able to use its assets to eventually get Osama bin Laden, was serious about getting Joseph Kony, Joseph Kony would have been eliminated a long time ago. If Yoweri Museveni had been serious about getting Joseph Kony, he would have eliminated Joseph Kony a long time ago. Joseph Kony was the reason for him to be able to get military resources from the West, to use him as this bogeyman. And now the United States is repeating the same Ugandan trick, of invoking Joseph Kony’s name to move military resources and assets to regions of massive resource discovery, including oil, simply to secure it against Chinese penetration.

    But there’s a level of hypocrisy in what Secretary Clinton says. It is not the Chinese government that has trained the armies of Rwanda or Uganda. It is not the Chinese government that has trained the militias that have caused the massive destruction and millions of deaths in the Democratic Republic of Congo. These are U.S. allies, trained by the United States, supplied, equipped, and sustained by the United States of America.

    KPFA: Ghanaian American scholar and advocate Nii Akuettah, of the Trans Africa Forum and the African Great Lakes Advocates Coailition said that Secretary Clinton’s remarks would be hilarious if the situation were not so serious.

    Nii Akuetteh: I thought if the issue wasn’t so serious, it would actually be hilarious. Because, I mean she was in Senegal and she talked about how Africans should embrace democracy. She didn’t mention China by name, but everybody was clear that she had China in mind, and then she flies to meet with Yoweri Museveni.

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Re: Kony 2012

Postby lucky » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:01 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IMreKyGdIE

Somethings you might not have seen in the Kony vid
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby wetland » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:40 am

After a short refractory period, #KONY2012 is back -- complete with an Oprah interview with the rebranded perp disclosing his PTSD-related nervous breakdown:

http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-ch ... tion-Video

Here is the link to access "Move," the new KONY2012 video linked to a November 17, 2012 "March on Washington," and related brand materials:

http://invisiblechildren.com/kony/
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby yathrib » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:19 pm

"KONY2012" huh? Well, he can't be worse than the other candidates.:) I'm pretty sure he wasn't born in the U.S., though.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 82_28 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:35 pm

The Christian university near me just went in session. As soon as the kids got back this year (as of like two weeks ago or so), I am starting to see "KONY2012" stickers being affixed to quite a few surfaces in the neighborhood I didn't see before.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:24 pm

Nordic wrote:When, in the entire history of the United States, has "constituent pressure" EVER had an affect on U.S. foreign policy?

This is such a spit-in-your-face lie I'm actually stunned.


An effect, you mean? Constantly. Just because it's an empire and not a democracy (especially in foreign policy) doesn't mean there are not a large variety of domestic interests, including grassroots groups and especially ethnic groups, constantly affecting (if rarely determining) a very large number of foreign policy issues, all the way back to the beginning. One constant and extremely important theme is that, at least before the remote-control war period, wars were always hard to start and sell. Resisting and shaping public opinion is a lot more work than people give the elites credit for. It eats up most of their collective mental resources, I estimate.
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Kony 2012 is back | MOVE DC 17NOV12

Postby Allegro » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:54 pm

Refer this post.

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    KPFA Evening News, 11.11.2012 — Kony 2012 is back. Invisible Children co-founders Jason Russell and Jedediah Jenkins say that their November 17, 2012 march and rally in Washington D.C. will be their generation’s equivalent of the August 28, 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. Their new Youtube video features pictures of Dr. Martin Luther King, who led the 1963 march, and promises that this will be “just like that.” Black Star News Editor Milton Allimadi responds.

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    ^ Invisible Children co-founders Jason Russell and Jedediah Jenkins tell their audience that the most important thing to bring to their November 17th march and rally is the KONY 2012 T-shirt, which they are selling online for $20.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby parel » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:18 am

US special ops, activists working together against LRA


STUTTGART, Germany — As part of an effort to capture one of Africa’s most wanted men, an unique partnership has taken shape in central Africa where battle-tested U.S. special operations forces have been working alongside a team of young activists from California to eliminate the notorious rebel group known as the Lord’s Resistance Army.

“We were able to come together with them and strategize,” said Sean Poole, counter-LRA programs manager for Invisible Children, a San Diego-based non-profit group. “It all started with military chartered aircraft dropping leaflets.”


While Invisible Children focuses on creating flyers aimed at disaffected members of the rebel group headed by the elusive warlord Joseph Kony, the military has been instrumental in helping to get their messages out, Poole said. So far, those efforts have been focused on the Central African Republic, though efforts are under way to ramp up a similar effort in the neighboring Democratic Republic of the Congo, where the LRA also is active.

In the past year, the U.S. military has been dropping hundreds of thousands of leaflets over the region. In contracted aircraft and military C-130s, the leaflets have been a key part of an effort to encourage defections from the LRA, a group known for abducting children for service both as sex slaves and soldiers, according to U.S. officials and activists.

“There definitely is a sense of momentum,” said Charlene Brown, an official with the U.S. Embassy in Uganda, who specializes in counter-LRA measures and helps coordinate U.S. efforts in the region.

Invisible Children, a non-governmental organization founded in 2004, has produced 14 different flyers. Most of the 690,000 leaflets dropped have showcased former LRA members who deserted from the rebel group and urged their former colleagues to do the same.

In addition, the group also conducts drops of its own. Invisible Children dropped some 30,000 leaflets over the DRC’s sprawling Garamba National Park one day recently. However, partnering with the U.S. military adds enormous reach to the effort, Poole said.

“Obviously it is a sensitive issue, working with the military,” Poole said. “NGOs have to separate themselves. But from our perspective, we looked at the logistical resources of the military. It made sense to leverage that. We are still in control of the messaging of the product.”

While partnerships between NGOs and the military are not unprecedented, the one between Invisible Children and U.S. troops operating in the region is a particularly strong one, Brown said.

When asked if the U.S. and its African partners are getting closer to Kony, Brown said: “We might be entering a phase where in the next six months we might see something happen, but it is difficult to predict.”

The launch of the leaflet campaign along with radio programs, “safe reporting sites” where locals ensure the safety of defectors, and a Ugandan effort to blast loudspeaker pro-defection messages from helicopters, has resulted in a recent spike in desertions, according to U.S. officials and Invisible Children.

“These efforts have seen progress in the way of an increase in the number of LRA defectors in 2012 from previous years,” said Lt. Col. Scott Rawlinson, a spokesman for U.S. Special Operations Command Africa, in a statement.

In 2011, there were 11 defectors. In 2012, there was a total of 33 defectors, many of whom cited the leaflets and loudspeaker messages as influencing their decision to defect, Rawlinson said.

At its peak, the LRA had about 2,000 fighters, but today the rebel group is believed to have a force of about 250, roaming across parts of the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and South Sudan and Uganda.

“The majority of [defections] have occurred since August, when combined forces increased their efforts to distribute leaflets and loudspeaker messages to encourage defectors to leave the LRA. All defectors have been safely handed over to the UPDF, with reports that many more want to leave,” Rawlinson said referring to the Uganda Peoples’ Defense Force.

In October 2011, President Barack Obama ordered about 100 U.S. military advisers, mostly special operations forces, to deploy to central Africa as part of an effort to apply pressure on the LRA, which has been a destabilizing force across the region for two decades.

The move was in response to the LRA Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act, bi-partisan legislation that was pushed by several activist groups including Invisible Children. In the years that followed, various high profile public awareness campaigns have focused international attention on the LRA.

U.S. Army Gen. David Rodriguez, who has been nominated to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command, said during his confirmation hearing last week that the LRA is one of four major threats he will be contending with if confirmed.

The LRA abducted 517 people and killed 51 others in 2012, according to the LRA Crisis Tracker, an online effort launched in 2011 by Invisible Children and another activist group, Washington-based Resolve.

The current U.S. military mission also provides intelligence, logistical and training support to regional militaries, which are responsible for on-the-ground operations against the rebel group, according to Brown.

Brown said the U.S. special operators continue to provide training and logistical help, but have so far stayed on the sidelines when it comes to actively hunting for LRA members in the field.

“It’s an advise and assist mission,” Brown said. “The UPDF is the tip of the spear.”

U.S. forces occasionally go on tracking patrols with Ugandan troops, but that is for the purpose of providing training while in the field, according to Brown. U.S. troops are prohibited from going on such missions when a possible encounter with LRA forces is deemed likely or is a main objective of the patrol, she said. To date, U.S. troops have not had any direct encounters with LRA members, she said.

The U.S. troops, however, have engaged directly with activists, such as Poole. In a place where there are few Westerners, it was inevitable that special operators and members of the Invisible Children team began to mix, Poole said.

“There aren’t a lot of English speakers in the area, so that breaks down barriers fast,” said Poole, who spends about seven months out of the year working in the region.

“I’ve been impressed with the professionalism and the level of expertise they’ve built on the LRA in such a short time,” Poole said of the U.S. military advisers.

The White House is expected to decide in the coming weeks whether or not to extend the deployment of U.S. advisers in the region.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby elfismiles » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:19 pm

Allegro ... would you mind NOT embedding autoplay audio files in threads?

On page 11 of this thread you have THREE of them so when opening (and even when replying as I am doing now) all three of them begin playing at once and you have to scramble to find each of them to make them stop.

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