Ew. With this Kollerstrom appearance, AD has a point -- putting this guy on is a strike against TPV (and an embarrassment to the general 7/7 study).
"We do well to remember that one of the great secrets of successful concentration camp administration under the Nazis was to enlist the "participation" of the inmates." -- Theodore Roszak, The Making of a Counterculture (1969)
Honestly, it's this bad:
911 - Maybe the No Planers Are Not So Crackers - Nick Kollerstrom No link, just search that on YT if you want to hear his dribble. I lasted a about minute. "Comments are disabled for this video."
Russel Brand good, Nick Kollerstrom bad.
“The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.” ― Joan Robinson
Hey Solace, thanks for the info, and my profoundest apologies. Had I known this, I would never had posted the interview, however valid Kollerstroms claims WRT 7/7 in fact may be.
Kollerstrom clearly has issues. He seems to be able to weed out the progaganda attatched with our Govnts, and yet fails to understand that most of the modern Western Govnt lies are founded around the self same principles as Nazi Germany, Indeed throughout the history of any elitist sponsored Genocide, from Churchill in India, to the Turks in Armenia, The British in Ireland, America almost anywhere you care to name, etc.
slimmouse » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:08 am wrote:Hey Solace, thanks for the info, and my profoundest apologies. Had I known this, I would never had posted the interview, however valid Kollerstroms claims WRT 7/7 in fact may be.
Kollerstrom clearly has issues. He seems to be able to weed out the progaganda attatched with our Govnts, and yet fails to understand that most of the modern Western Govnt lies are founded around the self same principles as Nazi Germany, Indeed throughout the history of any elitist sponsored Genocide, from Churchill in India, to the Turks in Armenia, The British in Ireland, America almost anywhere you care to name, etc.
Sorry,but this is a bunch of crap. The neo-Nazi talking points which solace exposed Kollerstrom saying are in essential harmony with the teachings of David Icke, not some kind of anomaly at all. "The Peoples Voice" is looking like more and more of an Orwellian name all the time. Remember Populism can be very right wing and can create "a seedbed for fascism."
However, we can surely expect slim to brightly keep on suggesting that even the horrors of the Nazis are actually the fault of the Joos, oops!- I mean "The Rothschild Zionists"...
Churchill = 6 million killed and forgottenDENIED = Holocaust DENIER
DI = 0
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
In this impressive book, Edward S. Herman and David Peterson examine the uses and abuses of the word “genocide.” They argue persuasively that the label is highly politicized and that in the United States it is used by the government, journalists, and academics to brand as evil those nations and political movements that in one way or another interfere with the imperial interests of U.S. capitalism. Thus the word “genocide” is seldom applied when the perpetrators are U.S. allies (or even the United States itself), while it is used almost indiscriminately when murders are committed or are alleged to have been committed by enemies of the United States and U.S. business interests. One set of rules applies to cases such as U.S. aggression in Vietnam, Israeli oppression of Palestinians, Indonesian slaughter of so-called communists and the people of East Timor, U.S. bombings in Serbia and Kosovo, the U.S. war of “liberation” in Iraq, and mass murders committed by U.S. allies in Rwanda and the Republic of Congo. Another set applies to cases such as Serbian aggression in Kosovo and Bosnia, killings carried out by U.S. enemies in Rwanda and Darfur, Saddam Hussein, any and all actions by Iran, and a host of others.
With its careful and voluminous documentation, close reading of the U.S. media and political and scholarly writing on the subject, and clear and incisive charts, The Politics of Genocide is both a damning condemnation and stunning exposé of a deeply rooted and effective system of propaganda aimed at deceiving the population while promoting the expansion of a cruel and heartless imperial system.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
slimmouse » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:04 am wrote:AD, you have a very fine style in exposing the potential of fascism, whilst all the time its grinding you down.
However, we can surely expect slim to brightly keep on suggesting that even the horrors of the Nazis are actually the fault of the Joos,
The inyerface lying race -baiting apparatchick strikes again.
I would have thought we would see a little more discretion after the recent exposure of those disgustingly over the top neo-Nazi talking points from Kollerstrom, the honored guest of "The Peoples Voice". The facade is slipping:
The Fuhrer of the Nazi Hippies
David Icke – Class hatred, Nihilism and Narcissism
When footballer David Icke appeared on Terry Wogan’s show in 1991 claiming to be the Son of God there was little sign that he was going to become one of, if not the leading figure in a cult phenomenon. It was fascinating and horrible that somebody who was clearly having some sort of mental breakdown could be allowed to humiliate himself in this way on national television. If someone who was that obviously ill appeared on a similar show today the presenters would rightly be castigated for mocking and letting the audience laugh at his delusions. Watching the interview today is like watching some sort of car crash TV, something that could, unfortunately, be applied to the rest of his “career”, although for very different reasons.
What I aim to do in this blog is to present the facts so you can connect the dots, as he himself would say, and make up your own mind about Icke and his theories. I think that the evidence of David Icke’s own words and actions shows that he is not ill and worthy of pity or for that matter a brave “truth-seeker” – he is a vicious anti-semite, a liar and a charlatan and this post will aim to prove it. His politics are the politics of elitism, nihilism and narcissism, a vacuous self help philosophy about “freeing your mind” and “consciousness” as though he is some sort of life coach. The sheeple will fall into line, they’re just software programmes on legs ready to be manipulated by anyone, whether that’s the lizards or the truth seekers.
Of course, if you challenge him on any of this you’re just “solid gold programmed”, as opposed to the “open, awake” people who have watched his videos and know where he’s coming from. As if the only explanation for rejecting him and his politics is because you are a zombie. Unwashed scum, “little girls in women’s bodies” with “big gobs” who need to know their place, who have been pre-programmed to reject him and everything he says. Watch this video and look at the class hatred dripping off it at the start as he sets his fans up for the abuse he receives from the “morons” and the “robot radicals” as they mouth off at him. Obeying their masters because they obviously have no independent thoughts of their own. Because that’s what these “software programmes on legs” do, as opposed to rich blokes in suits who earn a handsome living flying round the world doing talks about matters which are “too deep” for them to understand.
He claims that everything relating to his anti-semitism has been taken out of context. He complains that these “little girls” are taking out of context quotes and turning them into something different. All these people are a personification of “how the world is controlled by a tiny group of people who manipulate the masses.” Let’s see shall we.
The “Illuminati Protocols”
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is one of the “classics” of anti-semitic literature. It supposedly written from the point of view of Jews planning to take over the world. Created by the Tsarist secret police and spread about by pogromschiki (paid agitators who were fuckin paid to start pogroms in the last days of Tsarist Russia) you might think that anyone who takes such a work seriously is dodgy at best. Hitler took it as fact and the Nazi regime frequently referred to it, in fact there was even a trial in Switzerland in 1935 with Nazi lawyers involved to determine whether or not it was real. It is a plagiarism based on a mixture of various fictional and satirical works, none of whose authors knew what purpose their writing would be put to. The book “Warrant for Genocide” by Norman Cohn goes into detail about the origins and history of this laughable fairy story which was used to justify the genocide of Europe’s Jews and was used to justify the Second World War itself, as the Nazis claimed that Jews were controlling the Allied governments.
So it is slightly unusual for someone who claims not to be an anti-semite to make such extensive use of this forgery in his writing. In his early work such as the Robots’ Rebellion Icke quotes extensively from the Protocols and other anti-semitic texts. He gets around accusations of anti-semitism (sort of) by claiming that the Protocols are actually the “Illuminati Protocols” and that they were blamed on the Jews by the people who really control the world.
However, this claim does not really stand up to scrutiny. A search for “illuminati protocols” on Icke’s website reveals this page in the first couple of results.
‘The Rothschilds were Sabbatean-Frankists. This Satanic movement gave birth to the Illuminati, Communism and the NWO. It controls the world today. But ironically, while many Illuminati pretend to be Jews, they actually wish to destroy Jews who earlier had excommunicated and vilified them. Thus, there is an unrecognized schism in the Jewish people, where heretics have exterminated the mainstream and taken control of the remnant through Zionism. Yet, due to the anti-Semitism the Illuminati Jews cause and organize, Jews mistakenly cling to their leadership.
The Nazi hierarchy was probably of Frankist origin. We’ll look at this evidence later. But first we’ll examine what Rabbi Plaut, who was President of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said about their holocaust plan.’
The Sabbatarians were Hungarians, probably the majority working class peasants, who adopted Judaism as their religion in the 1700s and 1800s. Many, if not most of them were accepted as Jews by the Jewish community. The majority of them were murdered in the holocaust.
There was a “false messiah” called Sabbetai Zvi who lived a few hundred years prior to that which Icke may be thinking of. However, he moved to Turkey and converted to Islam, leaving behind a tiny sect with no relevance at all to anything – his followers mostly became Muslims at the same time as he did and their descendants today may not even be aware of their family history. Certainly any descendants of theirs, being in Turkey, were unlikely to have been anywhere near the holocaust when it was happening.
It is clear that Icke wants to blame the holocaust on a conspiracy to do with the Jews, who he claims he thinks are the “fake” Jews and not the real ones. However whether they are real or fake really makes no difference. It sounds anti-semitic and even if it’s not the people he’s slandering were entirely innocent. If I was being cynical (I am btw) I would say he concocted this entire “fake Jews” idea with the intention of claiming he’s not anti-semitic. On his discussions on the Protocols he talks about “Jewish and non-Jewish conspirators”. Jews and non Jews = everyone. So why not just say “conspirators”?
Dodgy views about the Holocaust
His claims about “rothschilds” being responsible for the Second World War, and thus the holocaust, match very closely what was said at the time by the Nazis about the Rothschilds funding world wars. They even made a film about them!
In any case, the idea of a group of shadowy conspirators behind the war isn’t exactly new. David Icke can talk about “Rothschilds” “lizards”, “zionists” and “illuminati” all he wants, and claim that his writings have nothing to do with Jews. But why don’t you connect the dots?
This is the cartoon he posted on his website about the World Jewish Congress’s call to try and criminalise holocaust denial (a call which btw I disagree with):
Nothing anti-semitic at all about that, is there?
On previous occasions he has defended the holocaust denier Ernst Zundel, author of those seminal, scholarly works “Did Six Million Really Die?” and “The Hitler We Loved and Why”. He even says “Ernst Zundels words proven true – see for yourself!”
I thought Hitler was a Rothschild? I thought he was part of the conspiracy – that obviously had nothing whatsoever to do with Jews, the idea that it is is merely being “programmed” into sheeple with “big gobs”! So why is he talking this way about somebody who clearly worships Hitler and even saying he is “proved right”? His whole thing about the conspiracy not being a Jewish one couldnt possibly be a ploy to convince people he’s not anti-semitic, could it?
In his book “…and the truth shall set you free,” he has talked about copies of Schindler’s List being distributed to schools in order to brainwash school children with an “unchallenged view” of the events of World War II. Of all the countless historically inaccurate films that are produced by Hollywood every year, whether it is U-571 or Braveheart, why pick on this particular film?
My God what would a “challenged view” look like? Oy vey!
“I’ve brought in my grandad’s medals from the War when he liberated the camps”
“That’s great – but for homework tonight, watch this two-hour DVD about how your grandad didn’t liberate anyone, and it was all done with holograms”?
To challenge the dominant consensus which simply presents an “unchallenged view” of the planets orbiting around the sun, perhaps we should show children this website, which demonstrates with scientific and Biblical proof that the earth doesn’t move in the sky because it was put there by God, and all the stars and planets move around it. The guy who produced it isn’t too keen on the Jews either, so Icke shouldn’t have a problem with that. Enough of that NASA propaganda and the so-called Hubble Space Telescope!
Or perhaps when learning about geography, rather than programme them with all that software programming, we should show them the true, unbiased picture and help them to make their own minds up by counteracting all those mainstream, “scientifically acceptable” maps of the world and making them study a copy of “100 Proofs Earth is Not a Globe“. It wouldn’t at all be a complete, pointless waste of our time and theirs, it would be helping them overcome the programming of the system and feel the truth vibrations, maaan.
Dee’s is for Disingenuous
On the link I quoted earlier about David Icke complaining about the World Jewish Congress and it’s stance on holocaust denial, we find something rather interesting. Much of what Icke posts is links to external sites. If you click on this particular external site, you discover something surprising.
Headings around the side of the “Ugly Truth” blog which he has copied and pasted the words from include such beacons of tolerance as “The real face of Judaism and Zionism”. Either he takes a complete lack of care as to which sources he uses in his articles, in which case he’s not much of a “truth seeker” if he is too fecking lazy to look at the websites he’s citing, or he’s actually endorsing those views himself.
The “Ugly Truth” blog where Icke gets his holocaust denial story – found under the heading “illuminati criminals” has this as its logo:
Yeah. Right. It’s all about lizards. How dare you insult his important research! Get a brain, morans! Open your mind!
Now no doubt there will be those who at this point are going, “But you’re just trying to smear him by association!” let me ask you this. If you have somebody who is routinely copying and pasting stories from websites of that nature and giving these people a platform on their website, boosting their search rankings and so on, would you not think there was something rather suspicious about all their claims to simply be exposing the truth?
David Icke doesn’t copy and paste from their websites. He endorses what they say. He claims “the truth is anti-semitic”. He regularly goes on the shows of people like Jeff Rense, the wife-beating nutcase who looks like the bastard love-child of Bjorn from Abba and Josef Fritzl whose radio show is linked to on the front page of fucking Jew Watch, the website which Google had to apologise about a few years ago because it was showing up in their search results. If he’s not a racist then why is he continually giving these people a platform and allowing them to give him one?
Then, of course, there’s his illustrator, the guy who designs the cartoons and images on his site. The Dees Illustration Studio. Have a look around if you can stomach it. Every picture on the site seems to be about Jews, the front page of it shows Marx with a star of David on his coat and other images on the site show Israel depicted as a snake in the Middle East with a star of david on it. This picture is just mad as revisionists like David Irving are depicted as being superheroes pushing over police cars.
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I just don’t know what to say about this picture. Except that I’m quite glad I’ve never tried whatever it was they were taking when they designed it.
Nice guy this, huh?
David Icke’s illustrator has also illustrated a book called “Synagogue Rising” which is about “anti-Christian Judaism” and claims on its back cover that “our fight is with the conspiratorial and not the common Jew”. I wonder whether I could find out whether I’m a “conspiratorial” Jew or just a “common” one. Is there a test you can do on the internet? Hilariously it also tries to answer the question “why some Jews identify themselves as people of the serpent”. Just before the Torah is read and everyone is sitting comfortably, out comes some dude with a box of rattlesnakes for people to “test their faith” with. I suppose it would get everyone grateful to God they were alive at the end of the service.
David Icke’s forums another piece of evidence that belie his claims that he loves humanity and wants everyone to free their mind from the matrix. They are crawling with neo-Nazis, promoters of the Protocols and there is currently a thread in their general forum with openly pro-Hitler material in it. Several posters have signatures about Jews and the Protocols. He even claims that the Royal Family are secretly part of the “Illuminati” and are sacrificing children and drinking their blood!
Projection much?
Icke says that:
“Jewish people are simply wonderful when they allow themselves to be who they really are. They have such a contribution to make to the good of the world. But I have rarely met one who really loves themself or does not carry the burden of inherited guilt. My friends, it is all about control. It’s time to let it go. Jewish people (who, like the rest of us, are evolving consciousnesses which happen to be experiencing a Jewish lifetime), will never be free until they step out of the mental and emotional control of this tiny clique, which uses them in the most merciless ways to advance its own sick and diabolical ambitions, in league with an equally sick clique of non-Jews.”
Yet we then get this. And this. Are these “chosen people” the fake Jews or the real ones David?
ETA: Jews create anti-semitism by their own behaviour and “thought-patterns” (And the Truth will Set you Free, p.126):
The conditioned thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind have repeatedly created the physical reality of oppression, prejudice, and racism which matches the pattern – the expectation – programmed into their collective psyche. They expect it; they create it. When Jewish people as a whole break free from the mind control of their hierarchy and start to let go of those feelings of fear and expectation of prejudice, they will stop attracting such experiences to them.
Translation: “Those fucking kikes bring it on themselves by whining about being persecuted all the time. If they didn’t behave like this we wouldn’t have to be racist. They expect it. They create it. They ask for it.” The cry of every entitled superior little scumbag throughout the world seeking to justify their bullying of and violence towards those weaker than them, whether it’s racism or women who “ask for it” by walking down the street wearing the wrong clothes.
Yes, if only I would allow myself to be who I really am and join the Nazi hippies and their Fuhrer on a jolly to Peru “where it all began” or to stand around a field in Watford scaring myself silly about chemtrails, vaccines and the symbolism on money, and behave like all the other well-adjusted, healthy Jewish people who agree with him such as Gilad Atzmon and “Brother Nathaniel” the pitiful formerly Jewish Orthodox Priest, linked to on Icke’s mate Jeff Rense’s website, who tries to convince passer-bys in the street that Hitler was right and his former co-religionists was the source of all the world’s ills.
Life would be so much easier.
It is ironic and slightly sad to watch somebody who talks constantly about how they and their holocaust-denying mates are persecuted and whine on about how “some people think that I’m in it for the money” accuse others of having a paranoia and persecution complex. It is even more pathetic to see someone accuse the Jews of being arrogant whereas they are quite happy to make up fact-free claims about the grieving family members of victims of terrorist attacks, that they have been paid off, that they have been hypnotised – and promote a tour to Peru where people can discover where he had the “experience” that led him down this path in the first place. As if anyone would want to do that. Why would you create and promote a tour ABOUT YOURSELF as though you are some spiritual guru ffs?
As if this is not enough he has a twitter account advertising his talks in Ukraine, a country where anti-semitic attacks and discrimination are extremely common, to go and stir up hatred like the parasitic, amoral slimeball that he is.
I guess the same sort of person with the same stunning lack of care for others who claimed with no evidence whatsoever that Sandy Hook or the Woolwich murder was a false flag – and that family members and friends of the victims were in on the conspiracy – in order to sell more of their “premium content”, plainly no empathy for anyone but themselves.
Here we have somebody repeating all the tedious old myths about Jews being rich and obsessed with money, while charging users money for the “premium” content on his website, his book, T-shirt and DVD sales, and charging £25 for tickets to his shows while travelling around the world telling everyone how controlled they are. Following his divorce, people began to get a hint of what kind of wealth he might be hiding. Yeah, there’s no hint of projection here.
Even without the despicable anti-semitism Icke promotes a worldview which is fundamentally elitist and anti-working class. He aims to teach his followers that they are the elite who have broken the programming of the system and that the “masses” have no agency or thoughts of their own, that they can just be manipulated at will rather than acting in their own interests. Only those who can see the truth like he can can lead us into the glorious new dawn. He has no interest in changing the structure of society – only in claiming to want to overthrow the elite so that people like him can rule as the new elite. You can overthrow the “global fascist state” by “freeing your mind” and buying his merchandise and his racist, anti-working class, neo-liberal philosophy – in other words there is no sense of collective struggle and if you aren’t like him and don’t come to the same conclusions as him you’re just a zombie, a software programme on legs not worth bothering about. He displays the same contempt for humanity as the ruling class he pretends to oppose.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Britain’s Cover Up Is Britain’s cover-up of its 1845-1850 holocaust in Ireland the most successful Big Lie in all of history?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
I took a McCorkell ship to New York city, The sharks seemed to leave us at it's shore, There only was one reason for me leavin,
An Gorta Mor!
When I first got in to New York Harbour, I made my mark and told them my name, They took to a place called Staten Island,
Thirty days quarantine!
Oh Mother tonight hear me callin, Let the wind blow as far as it can blow, And carry my voice across the ocean,
To Inishowen!
Then a "runner" told me heaven was Manhattan, He took my coin, took my bag as well, He swore his boarding house would take some beatin
Then he danced me into hell!
On the steel factory gates and shop windows, Signs read, "No Irish Need Apply"! For here its all the rage for them to hate us,
You can see it in their eyes!
Oh Mother tonight hear me callin, Let the wind blow as far as it can blow, And carry my voice across the ocean,
To Inishowen!
There's a dirty band of rats they call "Know -Nothing's" Who would burn us in our beds where we lie, They control the docks and the 5 points, So there's nothing left to do but organise!
I don't know He don't look Navaho And the one spitting at me Don't look Cherokee But the vigilante man Is screaming it's his land! I just wish to Christ I was back in Inishowen
No No No No No No!
No No No No No No !
Oh Inishown.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started. They could still get him out of office. But instead, they want mass death. Don’t forget that.
by Elvis » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:59 pm 
