Israeli War Crimes In Gaza!

[slimmouse]

Dare I interject with some politics , Room 101 style?

Just try releasing your mind from the current insanity of the world for long enough ( about 8 minutes hopefully) to listen to one instant treatment ( if not by any means a cure) for all of our current fuck up.

The video is over an hour long, but you can get the message in about the first 5 minutes.

[FourthBase]

I feel morally obliged to chime in and say that I also think the Jew-hatred here has never been more obvious nor more disgusting. Nordic doesn't think there are actually any Palestinians stabbing Israelis? Alice goes so far as to say that even if there were, the stabbers would be the injured parties? Right. Fuck you, Jew-haters. I am absolutely ashamed to have ever been a member of this "anti-fascist" board.

[Wombaticus Rex]

And one of the longtime most vicious Jew haters chimes in with her antisemitic soul on fire,. Fuck you sideways. Yep, you haters are the fucking franchise. Whatta ya mean you can't have nice things? Jews are being stabbed and run over. That should make you and yours relatively orgasmic.

Enjoy a month off. Still sorting this thread out, but I appreciate your help in facilitating easy decisions.

[Wombaticus Rex]

"Jews" are dead as opposed to "people" are dead, you Zionist exceptionalist "our blood is different than yours" asshat. No sense of responsibility for anything around you, you are just minding your own business, building on someone else s land and shooting their kids for throwing rocks and Goy-haters like you expect them to lie down on the road while you bomb them into rubble and you carry a Holocaust Card the size of a billboard around you and screamingly use it as a Get Out Of Jail Free card to excuse every piece of execrable behavioral engaged in, and stamp around in self-righteous outrage at anyone who doesn't toe your exceptionalist racist (not to mention fascistic) fact-free Hasbara echo-chamber, especially from someone like yourself, who would be first in line to grab the best place on the sofa for Settler Cinema and watch the pretty phosphorous bombs rain down on Gaza in the night sky....

To paraphrase Henry II,
Who will rid me of this asshat?

This is a good example of Failing To Keep Your Shit Together Under Real World Conditions.

The correct response to a fire is almost never "This needs more gasoline."

[Wombaticus Rex]

A minor factette that I find interesting - I can think of no other subject at RI, that we occassionally delve into, that is so clearly monitored.

If Solace is the best they can allot to RI, Hasbara is doing something terribly wrong.

Don't do this again. Jack Riddler is not CIA, Solace is not Mossad, Searcher08 is not FSB. And American Dream is not a Zizek prank.

[Wombaticus Rex]

I feel morally obliged to chime in and say that I also think the Jew-hatred here has never been more obvious nor more disgusting. Nordic doesn't think there are actually any Palestinians stabbing Israelis? Alice goes so far as to say that even if there were, the stabbers would be the injured parties? Right. Fuck you, Jew-haters. I am absolutely ashamed to have ever been a member of this "anti-fascist" board.

I'm trying to find any evidence to support your bolded claims in this thread. Are you referring to other threads, or is that actually your reading of the past four pages?

[FourthBase]

I feel morally obliged to chime in and say that I also think the Jew-hatred here has never been more obvious nor more disgusting. Nordic doesn't think there are actually any Palestinians stabbing Israelis? Alice goes so far as to say that even if there were, the stabbers would be the injured parties? Right. Fuck you, Jew-haters. I am absolutely ashamed to have ever been a member of this "anti-fascist" board.

I'm trying to find any evidence to support your bolded claims in this thread. Are you referring to other threads, or is that actually your reading of the past four pages?

First, there is the irrefutable evidence that Palestinian children, among other civilians, have been and continue to be murdered in huge numbers by terrorist invaders who have no more right to kill people, rob and terrorize them and expel them from their homes, than "ISIS" does, in the areas it controls; oddly enough both criminal entities sanctify their crimes using a very self-serving and supremacist interpretation of their religious scriptures.

The Zionists also claim that, in the absence of any legal claim to the Palestinians' land, it is now theirs, because they won it in war. Well, so did ISIS, and in both cases they were only able to do so because they were provided training, money and weapons by foreign powers. But international law specifically prohibits the acquisition of territory by means of war. Consequently, it is both lawful and indeed the duty of people to defend themselves and to resist, using all means possible, against invaders and ethnic cleansers. If the Palestinian boy in the video below had indeed tried to stab the armed invaders who were illegally occupying and ethnically cleansing his land (although there is no reason to believe the ethnic cleansers/killers, especially since they have a long history of lying as well as cold-blooded murder, and have produced no evidence to back up their claim), that would still make him the injured party, not them. That's international law, not that concepts like "international law" or "war crimes" or even "crimes against humanity" apply in the special case of the Zionist Entity. Why? Just because.

There is no moral or legal distinction between "ISIS" criminal territorial expansion and that of the Zionist colonizers into Palestinian land. There are other parallels: the two seem strangely in tune with each other, in logistical terms. They're vicious with others, but strangely protective of each other. The Zionists even rescue the wounded "ISIS" terrorists and tenderly minister to them in Israeli hospitals, while they have no problem killing even small Arab infants and pregnant women in the most sadistic ways. They share a particularly virulent hatred of Arabs, and a desire to see all traces of Arab people, history and culture wiped off the face of the earth, but the "ISIS" terrorists are very careful to preserve Jewish artifacts and to transfer them undamaged to territories controlled by the Zionist Entity.

As the saying goes, 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

Video: “Palestinian Child Bleeds to Death while Israeli Police & Civilians Watch, Shouting Insults”
Monday October 12, 2015 23:25
author by IMEMC & Agencies

“Die, you son of a whore!! Die!!” shouted Israeli men at a seriously wounded Palestinian child, who was left to die while police stood around him doing nothing. One of the officers repeatedly pushed the boy down with his foot, whenever he tried to sit up.

While the child was bleeding to death, Israelis surrounded him, shouting at him in a mix of Arabic and Hebrew, “Die, you son of a whore!”, “Die, you son of the biggest whore!”, and telling the police to “Do him a favor, and shoot him in the head!”

The officers did not shoot him, but left him bleeding with head injuries, broken legs and other serious injuries on the ground. The boy was able to raise his head a few times, but the police officers kicked him back down until he bled to death.

The slain Palestinian child has been identified as Hasan Khaled Manasra, 15 years of age, while his cousin Ahmad Saleh Manasra, 13, suffered a serious injury. They are both from Beit Hanina, in Jerusalem. (Correction: the boy in the video below is Ahmed, 13 years old. He survived his injuries. His cousin Hasan, 15 years old, was the one who died.)

The incident took place near Pisgat Zeev Israeli settlement, in occupied Jerusalem. The police claimed that the boys stabbed two settlers, wounding them.

A settler who chased the boys with his car also rammed Ahmad. But the police presented no evidence to connect the two children with the crime that they claimed the boys committed.

The following are some of the insults and curses hurled at the seriously wounded child before he died (warning: strong language):

“Die you fucker, die you son of a whore, die you son of a bitch…”
“Shoot him in the head, this son of a bitch”
“Die you son of a whore”
“Die you son of a bitch”
“Shoot him in the head, shoot him in the head!”
“Shoot him in the head, do him a favor”



The police eventually approached the Israelis, including the one who apparently was filming, and “asked them not to approach.”

Palestinian Presidency spokesperson, Nabil Abu Rodeina, said the execution of the child is an ugly Israeli crime committed by Israel in violation of every legal and humanitarian law, and demanded the apprehension of those responsible for his death.

He added that “If Israel continues its policies and violations, the entire region will reach a situation that cannot be contained, and everybody will pay a high price for that.”

Since October 1st, when two Israelis were killed in a ‘lone wolf’ attack by a Palestinian in Jerusalem, 26 Palestinians have been killed, including a pregnant woman and her two-year old child killed in an Israeli bombing on Sunday morning. Over 1200 Palestinians have been injured, many of them hit by live ammunition fired by Israeli troops at Palestinian demonstrators armed only with stones.

During that time period, no Israelis have been killed beyond the two who died in the October 1st attack, but six have been wounded in alleged attacks by Palestinians. No Palestinian faction has claimed responsibility for any attack, and it appears that the Palestinians who wounded Israelis were acting on their own.

In addition, Israeli authorities have been revealed on several occasions to have lied about the Palestinians they have killed – claiming falsely that the Palestinians had been attempting to stab or attack Israelis, but eyewitness and video evidence disproved this claim in a number of cases. Link

So there's some seriously nasty shit going down in Israel right now. "Settlers" and other Israelis just running around shooting Palestinian kids, 12, 13, 15 years old, letting them bleed to death in front of them, while videotaping them and shouting insults at them.

It's being said that the Zionists are planting knifes on them and accusing them of trying to stab Israelis. They shot a woman the other day, a 30 year old woman, whose "knife" turned out to be a pair of sunglasses. They just gunned her down on the street. It's also videotaped. Snuff videos, no need to hunt for them anymore, no more underground black market shit, you can see snuff videos on your phone now, all the time.

Anyway, it seems like it's something we should be talking about here. It makes me so angry my head might explode.

Here's a list of those murdered in cold blood since October 1st. There are over 1,000 injured.



15 year old girl shot while walking home from school with friends:



From the "Freedom for Gaza" facebook page:

I'm sure you have seen the video of the 14-year-old boy who was MURDERED by Israel today. If you haven't seen the video, scroll down this page and you will find it. That video was posted on an Israeli Facebook page and a Palestinian activist took a screen shot of some of the comments and posted them. These comments were made on that video by Zionist Jews. To see how truly EVIL these people are...read these comments. These are God's Chosen People. What kind of a person could watch that video and make comments like this?!?!

This 15-year-old girl was EXECUTED by Israel today. A mob of Jewish settlers were chasing her...taunting her...trying to pull her hijab off. She was frightening! She was petrified! The moment she crossed the road, an Israeli policeman jumped out of nowhere and fired five shots point blank into her body. She was surrounded by soldiers and policemen with their guns pointed at her....settlers screaming at her...as she slowly bled to death. Watch the video in the comment below.

This man lost his wife and his little girl when the Zionazis bombed his home for the sheer rollicking hell of it:



This is a video of a 13 year old boy lying broken and bleeding and dying in the street while whoever is videotaping him dying is shouting at him (along with many others).

Don't watch this one if you have kids, or if you're remotely sensitive. Of course I am both of those things and I could only watch it for a couple of seconds and it fucked me up for the rest of the day.

https://www.facebook.com/abuyousuf.zida ... 511308640/

Here's a Palestinian journalist screaming as he gets shot:



It just goes on and on. The police and the IDF have declared open season on Palestinians and are letting those subhuman "settlers" (I really wish they'd quit using that word, they settle nothing -- they are disrupters, thieves, bullies, terrorists and murderers) just run amok and shoot and kill whoever they feel like.

It's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Anyway it seems that this should be on our radar.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Thank you. I don't think you're mis-characterizing those comments.

I do, however, think you're making quite a leap to attribute those comments to "Jew-hating," though. Especially since we're talking about Israel, not Jews, right?

[Searcher08]

"Jews" are dead as opposed to "people" are dead, you Zionist exceptionalist "our blood is different than yours" asshat. No sense of responsibility for anything around you, you are just minding your own business, building on someone else s land and shooting their kids for throwing rocks and Goy-haters like you expect them to lie down on the road while you bomb them into rubble and you carry a Holocaust Card the size of a billboard around you and screamingly use it as a Get Out Of Jail Free card to excuse every piece of execrable behavioral engaged in, and stamp around in self-righteous outrage at anyone who doesn't toe your exceptionalist racist (not to mention fascistic) fact-free Hasbara echo-chamber, especially from someone like yourself, who would be first in line to grab the best place on the sofa for Settler Cinema and watch the pretty phosphorous bombs rain down on Gaza in the night sky....

To paraphrase Henry II,
Who will rid me of this asshat?

This is a good example of Failing To Keep Your Shit Together Under Real World Conditions.

The correct response to a fire is almost never "This needs more gasoline."

Cheers for the feedback - my intention had been to try and establish rapport by pacing... then leading; the meaning of the communication, what showed up - was of making things more inflamed - message sent was not message received.

[FourthBase]

Thank you. I don't think you're mis-characterizing those comments.

I do, however, think you're making quite a leap to attribute those comments to "Jew-hating," though. Especially since we're talking about Israel, not Jews, right?

Of course.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Do you think that when Nordic talks about how he's "so angry his head could explode," that might be due the power asymmetry between the IDF and the dead Palestinian youths he was talking about?

Is anti-Semitism really the only possible explanation?

[seemslikeadream]

for 3 members here caring for Palestinians is anti-Semitism that's the explanation

[Wombaticus Rex]

This man lost his wife and his little girl when the Zionazis bombed his home for the sheer rollicking hell of it

No "Zionazis" per Jeff: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=25886

[Nordic]

Okay. I didn't know about this rule.

And yes, I hate Jews because Israel, like I hate all white men because The Bush Administration.

So logical. How could I have not seen that I hated Jews?

Anyway here's more. An English Quaker, not a young man, violently assaulted by "settlers" (land thieves/bullies/terrorists/schoolchildren-shooters) while trying to protect Palestinians who were engaged in the seditious and terroristic act of trying to harvest olives from their olive trees.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 93986.html

David Amos: Gun-wielding gang of Israeli settlers attack British volunteer in West Bank

'A man stood no more than four feet from me and threw this rock which hit me on the back of the head', Mr Amos told The Independent

A 66-year-old British man volunteering in the West Bank has been hospitalised after being attacked by a gang of gun-wielding Israeli settlers hurling rocks at him.

David Amos, a retired publishing company worker, was struck in the head by a rock as he tried to protect Palestinian farmers during the olive harvest.

He was evacuated from the area by ambulance and taken to a hospital in Nablus, where he received five stitches.

He told The Independent the group of settlers came down a hill from the direction of the Yizhar settlement towards Palestinian farmland near the village of Burin where he and two other British women. ''There were eight or nine of the settlers, all masked and they were carrying large rocks.''

Mr Amos said that the settlers fired gunshots as they approached, causing him to sit on the ground and yell to his colleagues to take cover. ''They were shouting at us 'go' in English and also shouting in Hebrew. A man stood no more than four feet from me and threw this rock which hit me on the back of the head. I was sitting upright and I fell over on my side and then he and two others kicked me. The women were shouting 'we are British' so they knew we were British before the rock was thrown.''

Mr Amos said the settlers also set fire to undergrowth. ''There was already a fire burning by the time they threw the stone at me. They set fire to more trees and undergrowth as we made our way away from the olive grove. They pursued us but they didn't come and attack us again.'' A Palestinian farmer was also wounded by stone throwing in the same incident, Mr Amos said.

Mr Amos said he would file a complaint with Israeli police even though such complaints very rarely lead to indictments. Mr Amos, a Quaker, came to the West Bank with the British group, the Olive Harvest Trust, which he says is an organisation committed to nonviolence and to protecting Palestinian olive farmers.

Palestinian eye-witnesses claimed that the group of farmers was attacked and had stones thrown at them.

Eight Israelis have died in a string of stabbings, shootings and the stoning of a car, while 29 Palestinians have been killed in the last two weeks.
According to a police statement, the Israelis claimed that the altercation began after stones were thrown at a car belonging to an Israeli woman.

Ziv Stahl, Research Department Director, Yesh Din said: "We are in the midst of the olive harvest season, and Burin is a known friction area, where Yesh Din has documented numerous violent incidents against Palestinian farmers. During this period of high tension, we would expect that the Israeli security forces would be present on the ground in order to prevent any escalation of violence and to protect the local population, as they are obliged by law.

According to Israeli police, four Israeli citizens were arrested for disturbing the peace after an altercation between them and Palestinian farmers who were harvesting olives in Burin.

13 October was the worst day of violence in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories since tensions erupted last month.

Three Israelis and three Palestinians, including two attackers, were killed and many more were injured in stabbings, shootings, rock-throwing and clashes with security forces.

Hundreds of soldiers are being deployed in Jerusalem and across Israel as tensions continue to increase.

Eight Israelis have died in a string of stabbings, shootings and the stoning of a car, while 29 Palestinians - including 12 identified by Israel as attackers - have been killed in the last two weeks.

"Blessed are the peacekeepers". -- Jesus

"Fuck you, peacekeeper, here's a rock to the head" -- Israeli "settlers".

[Nordic]

Tourettes Hasbara Gurl


The First Rule of Hasbara
There is no Hasbara

The Second Rule of Hasbara
Minimise Hasbara - say everyone does it, it's just PR.

The Third Rule of Hasbara
Label: anyone who brings it up a NAZI!!! or Islamist!!! or "Jew-hater"!!!

The Fourth Rule of Hasbara
Divert and Personalise by asking "Have YOU ever been to Israel?"

HA! Yeah, that's exactly how it goes every time. Although sometimes the "Have YOU ever been to Israel?" is the first thing out of their mouths (fingers?)