Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

[elfismiles]

and has anyone got an explanation for the Hazmat unit "waiting" across the street?

Maybe the "Special Operations" Fire Unit has a "Hazmat" component that was seen by a witness and mischaracterized as an "Hazmat Team"...



The "luck" of the on-site fired department training... wellllll... it is a very synchronistic universe but...

[Howling Rainbows]

Clinton dropped bombs on Iraq the day Monica testified. Stack hit the building one day before the 1000 architects and engineers for 9/11 truth held a multi national conference. Feasible that this plane crash was orchestrated to drown out the architects and dominate the media for a few days? After all, the name of his company is "Embedded Art". Food for thought. It fits. In both incidents planes crash into buildings.

Mainly, it reverses the victim status from citizens being victims to the irs being the victims during this press conference.

A thread posted by Hugh Manatee Wins recently.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27195

Here's why that nasty 'guide to conspiracy theories' was put out by Newsweek.

CIA-Newsweek is owned by the CIA-Washington Post. "Enough said." ...still...

This disinformation surge is probably due to the Friday 2/19/10 press conference plus days events announcing the landmark signing up
of over 1000 Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth who declare that the NIST version of three World Trade Center building's destruction ('pancake collapse') conflicts with the laws of physics which, instead, prove controlled demolition.

Quote:
The press conference will be held concurrently in 19 states + Washington DC, 3 continents, 6 countries, 38 cities and 48 locations on 2/19/10.
Download the SF Press Release.
Download the Nat'l/Int'l Press Release.
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Join us for an exclusive luncheon in honor of the thousand petition signers and supporters who have contributed to the success of AE911Truth. To mark the occasion, distinguished members of the 9/11 Truth movement, including David Ray Griffin, PhD. and Steven Jones, PhD., will make important relevant presentations. We will also present an overview of the major accomplishments achieved in 2009 along with the ambitious goals we have set for 2010.
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A/E Conference
This conference will give us the opportunity to strategize with and empower our architect and engineer petition signers. Our goal: to develop more AE911Truth speakers and otherwise actively disseminate our message to fellow A/E professionals. We will focus on several methods of structuring and delivering the message effectively. And hear your ideas about how to make AE911Truth even more impactful.

[Sweejak]

Maybe the "Special Operations" Fire Unit has a "Hazmat" component that was seen by a witness and mischaracterized as an "Hazmat Team"...



The "luck" of the on-site fired department training... wellllll... it is a very synchronistic universe but...

I put the name of the building being the Echelon building down to Chris Knowles style synchronicity. I wish I could see better into those levels.. if they exist.

[Belligerent Savant]

Nah, I don't remember much in the way of outright hyperbole and always thought Nimmo was dead over the target even when I didn't agree with him, and he was willing to go against the grain of those who go against the grain. He is one hell of a photographer BTW.

Yea, that's right - he was a good photog as well, and often posted them on his own blog... perhaps it was one of the many other goons that contributed to Counterpunch that I was thinking of Re: hyperbole...


At any rate, these days one must almost assume these types of events are manufactured by The Handlers by default, only ruling it out when it becomes clear there is no benefit to their long [or short] term agendas...

It'll be interesting to see if there's any policy or legislation that would come of this, as that is usually the most telling sign... At this point however, it seems the fanfare has already begun to dwindle... then again, I don't watch Network News, so I don't have my thumb on the pulse of the latest spin du jour

[Sweejak]

It'll be interesting to see if there's any policy or legislation that would come of this, as that is usually the most telling sign... At this point however, it seems the fanfare has already begun to dwindle... then again, I don't watch Network News, so I don't have my thumb on the pulse of the latest spin du jour

But, even if it wasn't a psyop they'd likely still use it to their advantage. I've been off TV and most MSM for years now and it puts me somewhat out of touch with the cultural stream, something I rather enjoy, but in some cases it makes me even more clueless than I already am.

OT Nimmo's photostream:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/knimmo/

[Sweejak]

Oh, this reminds me, he had a very brief stint at Counterpunch, I forgot what the disagreement was about but it was sharp.

Slate has an psychological article up on Stack. It makes a number of points that I prefer to classify as observations.
http://www.slate.com/id/2245337/

[Belligerent Savant]

But, even if it wasn't a psyop they'd likely still use it to their advantage.

Word.

[barracuda]

Stack hit the building one day before the 1000 architects and engineers for 9/11 truth held a multi national conference. Feasible that this plane crash was orchestrated to drown out the architects and dominate the media for a few days?

Seriously, now, Howling Rainbows. I'd like a straw poll to see how many people, even on this conspiranoid forum, visit the AE website with any regularity. Question: exactly how many devoted 911 Truth architects and engineers do you think it would take to galvanize the nation into demanding an independent investigation? Answer: more than all of them. The AE911Truth is not only unthreatening to the perps of the attack, it is actually a useful mechanism to divert the energy of those people into a cul-de-sac of stagnation. It's been ten years and they have just reached a thousand signatures. Drumroll aaaaaand... eyeroll.

At any rate, these days one must almost assume these types of events are manufactured by The Handlers by default, only ruling it out when it becomes clear there is no benefit to their long [or short] term agendas...

Not really. It is only the low quality of journalism at play in our society today, which leaves huge gaps in these narratives (Fort Hood shooting, Amy Bishop, Austin, etc.) that then tend to be filled by the imagination of us conspiratards. It's like a friend of mine said last night as we discussed this event: you get home from work and theres a message on your answering machine. You play it back, but it's just a hang-up sound. So immediately your mind fills that hang-up with what you hope and fear the most regarding exactly who might have called. Any synchro-mystical calling card will then influence your best guess in ways beyond your control, having no real relationship to the phone call at all. The empty hole tends to be filled with expectations.

No one commits suicide to prove a point to the IRS. Stack clearly had issues which were rooted in family or personal problems, just as Amy Bishop probably came from an abusive childhood household. But we'll probably never find out, and on and on it goes into the realm of pure supposition and confirmation bias.

[Belligerent Savant]

Yes, I'd agree the modern approach to what can only euphemistically be termed "journalism" is certainly at least partly to blame, but I wonder: how is it that there is such poor journalism these days?
Considering the increasing conglomeration of media ownership among fewer hands, one can speculate that this current era of 'poor' or non-existent journalism' may likely be by design [perhaps not wholly for nefarious reasons -- it may simply be for increased revenue: cheaper 'journalists' catering to a wider, dumber audience].

Something about that 'poor journalism' rationale however reminds me of a common 'mainstream' meme from way back in the Fall of 2001: the "govt. was too incompetent and/or got caught with their 'pants down' " theme, utilized by the common folk and politicos to explain away the unprecedented events of that day back in Sept of 01

Many, of course, simply accepted that theme and subsequently went on with their preoccupied and surely important lives...

Of course, by no means am I making any parallels here -- simply ruminating out loud...

[Nordic]

Yes, I'd agree the modern approach to what can only euphemistically be termed "journalism" is certainly at least partly to blame, but I wonder: how is it that there is such poor journalism these days?
Considering the increasing conglomeration of media ownership among fewer hands, one can speculate that this current era of 'poor' or non-existent journalism' may likely be by design [perhaps not wholly for nefarious reasons -- it may simply be for increased revenue: cheaper 'journalists' catering to a wider, dumber audience].

Something about that 'poor journalism' rationale however reminds me of a common 'mainstream' meme from way back in the Fall of 2001: the "govt. was too incompetent and/or got caught with their 'pants down' " theme, utilized by the common folk and politicos to explain away the unprecedented events of that day back in Sept of 01

Many, of course, simply accepted that theme and subsequently went on with their preoccupied and surely important lives...

Of course, by no means am I making any parallels here -- simply ruminating out loud...

Easy. PR and journalism have become one and the same.

Just start looking for jobs in "writing".

The employees just don't care. Also, most of them now came of age after Ronald Reagan was in office, so they know nothing different. They honestly don't know what a "free press" looks like, or is about. All they know is they are employed. Or not. Just look at the career arcs of some of the more visible ones, the ones on TV. They'll do anything, game shows, paparazzi shows, anything, as long as they're reading a teleprompter to a camera.

They don't care, and they want to make their bosses happy.

[nathan28]

you get home from work and theres a message on your answering machine. You play it back, but it's just a hang-up sound. So immediately your mind fills that hang-up with what you hope and fear the most regarding exactly who might have called. Any synchro-mystical calling card will then influence your best guess in ways beyond your control, having no real relationship to the phone call at all. The empty hole tends to be filled with expectations.

No one commits suicide to prove a point to the IRS. Stack clearly had issues which were rooted in family or personal problems, just as Amy Bishop probably came from an abusive childhood household. But we'll probably never find out, and on and on it goes into the realm of pure supposition and confirmation bias.

I just don't check my messages. Or am relieved that whatever it was wasn't important enough to warrant one.

And I don't see what you're saying about Stack there. He'd fit the profile of your average suicide. Which suggests to me that there's an unspoken set of rules operating about suicides, at least the ones that fit the norm. And upthread you said that you empathize with any degree of tax protest, that suicide bombing is expected in countries under military occupation. Did you have a change of heart?

[barracuda]

Not really, I just feel upon further reflection that he's less of a politically righteous kamakazee vigilante than a man with personal problems we aren't privvy to. I should have said, "No one commits suicide just to prove a point to the IRS." But even that is likely too sweeping of a generality, ands it probably doesn't have to be either/or, anyway.

And you should really check those messages - reach out and touch someone besides yourself.

[elfismiles]

Somehow I missed this one...

TxDOT: Austin office building hit by plane could collapse
Credit: AP / KVUE

TxDOT says the seven-story Echelon 3 building in Austin is structurally unsound after Joseph Stack, inset, crashed his plane into it on Thursday.
by WFAA-TV Staff
Posted on February 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM
Updated yesterday at 8:29 PM

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AUSTIN — There is concern that the Austin office building that was the target of a suicide plane crash last week could collapse.

The Texas Department of Transportation said Sunday that the seven-story Echelon 3 building is structurally unsound. The agency has delayed reopening the adjacent Highway 183 frontage road until further inspection.

Inside that building, federal investigators spent the day searching through the debris for more evidence as the family of Vernon Hunter planned his funeral.

Hunter was a long time Internal Revenue Service employee who was the building's only occupant to die in the fireball that resulted when Joseph Stack flew his small plane into the side of the building on Thursday morning.

Stack, who also died in the crash, left behind an online manifesto that outlined his grievances with the IRS.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/TxD ... 26202.html

[elfismiles]

Today In History February 22

1974 – Samuel Byck tries and fails to assassinate U.S. President Richard Nixon by attempting to hijack a plane and fly it into the White House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Byck

[elfismiles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJt2-9K1H8