One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Tue May 29, 2012 2:02 pm

Drones Shot Down Over Texas (Videos)
Surveillance drones blasted out of the sky in protest against 4th amendment intrusion
http://www.infowars.com/drones-shot-down-over-texas/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGgEFOD8Jlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJvmu7tZ1g
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby crikkett » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:22 pm

Image

The eyes hypnotize.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:49 pm

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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby Nordic » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:59 pm

crikkett wrote:Image

The eyes hypnotize.



You beat me to it!

Anyway, here's the video about the flying stuffed cat.

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:06 pm

The Age Of Drones: Military May Be Using Drones In US To Help Police (3 Audio Reports)
Critics fear invasion of privacy
June 4, 2012 7:43 AM
REPORT: USAF drone spied on US soil...
18k police departments to be offered UAVs...
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/06/ ... lp-police/


EPA Using Drones to Spy on Cattle Ranchers in Nebraska and Iowa
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
June 4, 2012

Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency is using aerial drones to spy on farmers in Nebraska and Iowa. The surveillance came under scrutiny last week when Nebraska’s congressional delegation sent a joint letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson.

On Friday, EPA officialdom in “Region 7” responded to the letter.

“Courts, including the Supreme Court, have found similar types of flights to be legal (for example to take aerial photographs of a chemical manufacturing facility) and EPA would use such flights in appropriate instances to protect people and the environment from violations of the Clean Water Act,” the agency said in response to the letter.

“They are just way on the outer limits of any authority they’ve been granted,” said Mike Johanns, a Republican senator from Nebraska.

In fact, the EPA has absolutely zero authority and is an unconstitutional entity of an ever-expanding and rogue federal government. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution does not authorize Congress to legislate in the area of the environment. Under the Tenth Amendment, this authority is granted to the states and their legislatures, not the federal government.

The EPA has not addressed the constitutional question, including its wanton violation of probable cause under the Fourth Amendment. It merely states that it has authority to surveil the private property of farmers and ranchers. It defends its encroaching behavior as “cost-efficient.”

http://www.infowars.com/epa-using-drone ... -and-iowa/

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:25 pm


Attack of the drones: 27 killed in just three days as U.S. increase strikes in Pakistan
* There have been eight U.S. drone strikes in the past two weeks
* Attacks have been a source of deep frustration and tension between the U.S. and Pakistan
* Administration officials say that Mr Obama and top security officials regularly consult on adding militants to a drone 'kill list'
* U.S. president personally approves or vetoes each strike

By Jill Reilly
PUBLISHED: 11:14 EST, 4 June 2012 | UPDATED: 11:37 EST, 4 June 2012

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... istan.html


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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:29 am

Considering the military is replacing its human pilots will drones ... should we be surprised by this news:

America Is Making Its Own Pilots Sick (Video)
http://www.disinfo.com/2012/05/america- ... ick-video/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-5 ... ilots-sick

... meanwhile ... flashback to last year ...

Miniature Drones Spray Enemies With ‘Tracking Dust’
Posted by BananaFamine on April 29, 2011
http://www.disinfo.com/2011/04/miniatur ... king-dust/
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/04 ... er-drones/
http://www.dodsbir.net/solicitation/sbir112/af112.htm
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby crikkett » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:06 pm

Nordic wrote:here's the video about the flying stuffed cat.



https://twitter.com/onepointzero/status ... 9514319872
@onepointzero wrote:Obviously, when I die I hope to be turned into a quadrocopter.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:43 am

More positive civilian drone PR:


TECH | 6/07/2012 @ 10:52AM |38,865 views
Joggobot, The Companion Drone That Makes You Run Faster, Longer, Harder
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill ... er-harder/
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:00 pm

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06 ... n-us-soil/

(There's a map.)

We like to think of the drone war as something far away, fought in the deserts of Yemen or the mountains of Afghanistan. But we now know it’s closer than we thought. There are 64 drone bases on American soil. That includes 12 locations housing Predator and Reaper unmanned aerial vehicles, which can be armed.

Public Intelligence, a non-profit that advocates for free access to information, released a map of military UAV activities in the United States on Tuesday. Assembled from military sources — especially this little-known June 2011 Air Force presentation (.pdf) – it is arguably the most comprehensive map so far of the spread of the Pentagon’s unmanned fleet. What exact missions are performed at those locations, however, is not clear. Some bases might be used as remote cockpits to control the robotic aircraft overseas, some for drone pilot training. Others may also serve as imagery analysis depots.

The medium-size Shadow is used in 22 bases, the smaller Raven in 20 and the miniature Wasp in 11. California and Texas lead the pack, with 10 and six sites, respectively, and there are also 22 planned locations for future bases. ”It is very likely that there are more domestic drone activities not included in the map, but it is designed to provide an approximate overview of the widespread nature of Department of Defense activities throughout the US,” Michael Haynes from Public Intelligence tells Danger Room.

The possibility of military drones (as well as those controlled by police departments and universities) flying over American skies have raised concerns among privacy activists. As the American Civil Liberties Union explained in its December 2011 report, the machines potentially could be used to spy on American citizens. The drones’ presence in our skies “threatens to eradicate existing practical limits on aerial monitoring and allow for pervasive surveillance, police fishing expeditions, and abusive use of these tools in a way that could eventually eliminate the privacy Americans have traditionally enjoyed in their movements and activities.”

As Danger Room reported last month, even military drones, which are prohibited from spying on Americans, may “accidentally” conduct such surveillance — and keep the data for months afterwards while they figure out what to do with it. The material they collect without a warrant, as scholar Steven Aftergood revealed, could then be used to open an investigation.

The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the U.S. military from operating on American soil, and there’s no evidence that drones have violated it so far.

This new map comes almost two months after the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) revealed another one, this time of public agencies – including police departments and universities – that have a permit issued by the Federal Aviation Agency to use UAVs in American airspace.

“It goes to show you how entrenched drones already are,” said Trevor Timm, an EFF activist, when asked about the new map. “It’s clear that the drone industry is expanding rapidly and this map is just another example of that. And if people are worried about military technology coming back and being sold in the US, this is just another example how drone technology is probably going to proliferate in the US very soon.”

Domestic proliferation isn’t the same as domestic spying, however. Most — if not all — of these military bases would make poor surveillance centers. Many of the locations are isolated, far from civilian populations. Almost half of the bases on the map work only with the relatively small Raven and Shadow drones; their limited range and endurance make them imperfect spying tools, at best. It’s safe to assume that most of the bases are just used for military training.

Privacy concerns aside, the biggest issue might be safety, as we were been reminded on Monday when a giant Navy drone crashed in Maryland.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:09 am

Flashback: 'UFO' towed through US town panics locals
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33714

Military drone mistaken for ‘UFO’ along DC highways (Video)
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18785637/b ... =printable

Sen. Paul proposes bill protecting Americans from drone surveillance
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valle ... rveillance
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby crikkett » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:38 am

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/05/ ... ic-drones/
Groups Concerned Over Arming Of Domestic Drones

May 23, 2012 1:18 PM

WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – With the use of domestic drones increasing, concern has not just come up over privacy issues, but also over the potential use of lethal force by the unmanned aircraft.

Drones have been used overseas to target and kill high-level terror leaders and are also being used along the U.S.-Mexico border in the battle against illegal immigration. But now, these drones are starting to be used domestically at an increasing rate.

The Federal Aviation Administration has allowed several police departments to use drones across the U.S. They are controlled from a remote location and use infrared sensors and high-resolution cameras.

Chief Deputy Randy McDaniel of the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office in Texas told The Daily that his department is considering using rubber bullets and tear gas on its drone.

“Those are things that law enforcement utilizes day in and day out and in certain situations it might be advantageous to have this type of system on the UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle),” McDaniel told The Daily.

The use of potential force from drones has raised the ire of the American Civil Liberties Union.

“It’s simply not appropriate to use any of force, lethal or non-lethal, on a drone,” Catherine Crump, staff attorney for the ACLU, told CBSDC.

Crump feels one of the biggest problems with the use of drones is the remote location where they are operated from.

“When the officer is on the scene, they have full access to info about what has transpired there,” Crump explained to CBSDC. “An officer at a remote location far away does not have the same level of access.”

The ACLU is also worried about potential drones malfunctioning and falling from the sky, adding that they are keeping a close eye on the use of these unmanned aircraft by police departments.

“We don’t need a situation where Americans feel there is in an invisible eye in the sky,” Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst at ACLU, told CBSDC.

Joshua Foust, fellow at the American Security Project, feels domestic drones should not be armed.

“I think from a legal perspective, there is nothing problematic about floating a drone over a city,” Foust told CBSDC. “In terms of getting armed drones, I would be very nervous about that happening right now.”

McDaniel says that his community should not be worried about the department using a drone.

“We’ve never gone into surveillance for sake of surveillance unless there is criminal activity afoot,” McDaniel told The Daily. “Just to see what you’re doing in your backyard pool — we don’t care.”

But the concern for the ACLU is just too great that an American’s constitutional rights will be trampled with the use of drones.

“The prospect of people out in public being Tased or targeted by force by flying drones where no officers is physically present on the scene,” Crump says, “raises the prospect of unconstitutional force being used on individuals.”


In my opinion, any police officer who thinks this way simply cannot be entrusted with public safety.
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 am


US Congressmen demand justification for drone strikes
By Huma Imtiaz
Published: June 14, 2012


WASHINGTON:
Twenty-six US Congressmen have sent a letter to President Barack Obama “demanding a legal justification from the White House for signature drone strikes.”

According to a press release, Congressman Dennis Kucinich and 25 other members of the Congress said that drone strikes “could significantly increase risks of killing innocent civilians or those with no relationship to a potential attack on the US and further inflame anti-American sentiment abroad”.

The letter, signed by 24 Democrat and 2 Republican members of the US House, demands information regarding the authorisation and execution of signature drone strikes along with the mechanisms used by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) to ensure the legality of such killings.

It also questions “the nature of the follow-up that is conducted when civilians are killed or injured… and the mechanisms that ensure civilian casualty numbers are collected, tracked and analysed.”

Congressman Kucinich said, “The implications of the use of drones for our national security are profound. They are faceless ambassadors that cause civilian deaths, and are frequently the only direct contact with Americans that the targeted communities have. They can generate powerful and enduring anti-American sentiment.”

Drone attack in North Waziristan

Meanwhile, a fresh drone strike killed at least five foreign militants in the North Waziristan tribal region on Wednesday.

A US pilot-less aircraft fired two missiles at a vehicle on Esha-Razmak Road in Miramshah, a security official said.

Another official, however, put the number of missiles fired at four – only two of them hitting their target. He added that five Uzbek militants on board the vehicle were killed on the spot.

The vehicle was hit while it was passing through Malik Azdar village, about 15 kilometres east of Miramshah Bazaar.

Malik Azdar village is inhabited by the Borakhel, a sub-tribe of the Waziris. “Residents rushed to the scene and started extinguishing the fire on the vehicle,” he added. Witnesses claimed that five charred bodies were retrieved from the vehicle.

Earlier, 15 militants were killed on June 4 when a US drone fired four missiles on a militant compound in the Mir Ali sub-division of North Waziristan.

(WITH ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT IN MIRAMSHAH)

Published In The Express Tribune, June 14th, 2012.



http://tribune.com.pk/story/393471/us-c ... e-strikes/





Poll: U.S. Citizens Approve of Drone Killings
http://www.infowars.com/poll-u-s-citize ... -killings/

Drone Strikes Widely Opposed
Global Opinion of Obama Slips, International Policies Faulted
http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/06/13/glo ... s-faulted/
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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby psynapz » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:16 pm

It would take some time to figure out why they keep flopping around and dropping out of the sky...

http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm

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Re: One Drone Thread to Rule them ALL

Postby elfismiles » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:11 pm

Thanks for the HOPE tm, Psynapz.

Years ago my dad and I were driving past an RC airplane range and he said, "watch this" and repeatedly tapped the talk button on his radio 3 times and we watched as all the planes started falling in stairsteps matching the interferance from his radio.

Meanwhile...

U.S. Military Wants More Drones In Latin America
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/1 ... 93128.html

Secret bases, hi-tech spy planes as US expands Africa intel
http://www.rt.com/news/africa-intellige ... pread-780/

US drone industry: Open for business at home and abroad (May, 2012)
http://www.rt.com/news/us-drone-technology-turkey-938/

Spy-Butterfly: Israel developing insect drone for indoor surveillance (May, 2012)
http://www.rt.com/news/israel-drone-ind ... erfly-672/




psynapz wrote:It would take some time to figure out why they keep flopping around and dropping out of the sky...

http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm
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