THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

[OP ED]

[OP ED is neither liberal nor progressive]

OP ED also doesn't belive that love is a prerequisite for sex. nor vice versa. that's much too biblical an approach for OP ED's comfort.

[love is rather a by-product of sex, itself a by product of reproduction, itself an artifact of elongated survival imperitives, themselves artifacts of random biochemical interaction]

OP ED does not believe that the United States goverment or any other organization has the needed power OR intelligence to organize "dehumanization" on such a large scale. Rather the coarsening of culture is a secondary byproduct of the same cause that created your moralized sexfear and the culture wide fetishizing of death to become mainstream. Specifically they are symptoms of the degradation and imminent implosion of the empire itself manifesting in the subconscious of its citizenry. You think they show how much power TPTB have in their possession. OP ED believes likewise, but its estimation of their real power is significantly different from your own. They are in decline and they're taking all the filthy little minds down with them. This has happened many times in human history.

[JackRiddler]

It falls under the Revolution in Military Affairs (RMA)--the implementation of global command and control sense & respond systems to ultimately enforce tyrannical world government which requires a a very dehumanizing paradigm for the reasons I already mentioned.. Full Spectrum Dominance was first revealed in the 1998 US Space Command document – Vision for 2020 and later released in 2000 as DOD Joint Vision 2020, http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=45289

You almost had me thinking I shouldn't call your nonsense shameful, but this tops all else. The RMA is serious shit that indeed threatens all life, and for you to turn it into the stuff of your fundamentalist, fanatical, Senior Anti-Sex League campaigning is an inexcusable trivialization and distortion.

All the more so given the military culture's continuing essential prudishness, which naturally goes together with its rape culture. (Puritanism and Pornography: same coin, two sides.)

The Pentagon's doing this? Through Miley Cyrus? The Illuminati? The Federal Reserve, the Rockefeller-Rothschilds? Who?

Miley Cyrus is an infinitesimally small example of an overall dehumanizing effort by the powers that be. Through Intelligence, Military, Government, NGOs, Economics, InfoTech, Mass Media, Philosophy, Occult, Religion, Science, Academia, Psychology, Psychiatry, Medicine...globalist institutions such as Rockefeller Foundation, CIA, MI6, SRI, Brookings, RAND, Club of Rome, Council on Foreign Relations, IMF, PNAC, Pilgrim's Society, World Bank.

Fact-free, semi-literate grab-bag of half-digested theory and keywords that serve only to confuse and deflect. Category confusion. Confusionism, in fact: this is how any real PTBs would prefer to have it. The enemy is everything and nothing, everywhere and nowhere. Surely you're working to keep things nice and obscure for the real PTB?

Where did Cyrus's stage show "eliminate love from the equation," by the way? Not that it spoke about love at all, but how did it "entirely eliminate" it?

People in love can do whatever the hell they want to do, but if you think Miley Cyrus performance was in any way about promoting love, well,

Can you even read? Obviously not. Can you argue with what you read, rather than make shit up, as you have been making shit up about the RMA being responsible for Miley Cyrus's VMA show? Obviously not!

you and your menstrually soaked foam finger and planet-sized Ass of the "Negress" have fun loving each other. As many times as you've mentioned it, I seriously do think you're in love.

No, that's all Jerky. The OP, the argument you too have adopted. I confess, I have been in love (it's fading) with repeating Jerky's bizarroland phrases since these demonstrate the awesome dumb-fuckery of Jerky's argument, which is also pretty much your own. Though you can feel free to disassociate yourself from the "menstrual" foam finger and the use of "Negress." Don't really care.

"This will never die! Never!"

No, not if you keep responding.

You said it would never die!

Own your own words.

And own what your own repressive anti-sex religiosity and intolerance are responsible for, instead of projecting it on to me, "atheists," "progressives" or "liberals" (did I ever call myself the last?!).

The worst dehumanizers, they congregate in churches and especially hate youth. They'd like to imprison girls as virgins until selling them off in arranged marriages. That used to be the norm.

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[divideandconquer]

You almost had me thinking I shouldn't call your nonsense shameful, but this tops all else. The RMA is serious shit that indeed threatens all life, and for you to turn it into the stuff of your fundamentalist, fanatical, Senior Anti-Sex League campaigning is an inexcusable trivialization and distortion.

All the more so given the military culture's continuing essential prudishness, which naturally goes together with its rape culture. (Puritanism and Pornography: same coin, two sides.)

Not a fundamentalist. Not a senior, unless those born in 1962 are seniors...I don't know, but I don't qualify for any senior discounts. Not a fanatic. Not anti-sex. Try again. The RMA requires that we believe we are "free" while they implement the control grid. Most people think we are free because of so-called sexual freedom, and because of the debauchery that permeates the tele-screen and the virtual world.

Surely you're working to keep things nice and obscure for the real PTB?

That's funny because I thought the same thing of you.

you have been making shit up about the RMA being responsible for Miley Cyrus's VMA show? Obviously not!

Can you read? I never said that. I said the RMA is all encompassing, the enemy is all of us. The entire Revolution in Military Affairs (spearheaded by neocons) was pretty much applied cybernetics.You're looking at cybernetics and new 'control theories' being applied to the very fabric of society which includes the dehumanization element of which the Miley Cyrus show is only a very small part of a much larger agenda that includes everything in this media saturated society.

You said it would never die!

NO, you said it would never die. Go back and check it for yourself.

Own your own words.

And own what your own repressive anti-sex religiosity and intolerance are responsible for, instead of projecting it on to me, "atheists," "progressives" or "liberals" (did I ever call myself the last?!).

The worst dehumanizers, they congregate in churches and especially hate youth. They'd like to imprison girls as virgins until selling them off in arranged marriages. That used to be the norm.

Although, I do believe in Jesus Christ, I don't go to church. I have three daughters and I have no intention of selling them off into anything, and I certainly don't hate them. I don't hate Miley Cyrus. I feel very sorry for her. I think she is a victim.

The worst dehumanizers congregate, not in churches, but at round tables, think tanks, Congress, Senate, in defense corporations, Wall Street, and in Hollywood,

[JackRiddler]

Promoting debauched sex that entirely eliminates love from the equation repeatedly, with images that go viral and will never die is just one part of the mechanistic dehumanization agenda.of making human beings mere raw material for manipulation and homogenization.

You said that, see? You. You own it. I mocked it.

Not a fundamentalist. [...] Not a fanatic. Not anti-sex.

I'm sure you're not. You're just echoing that noise here.

The RMA requires that we believe we are "free" while they implement the control grid.

Your reading. Not anything RMA theory said. May even be implicit, but it's not how they understand it unless you can quote chapter and verse to that effect from RMA documents.

Most people think we are free because of so-called sexual freedom,

No they don't. Your made up shit. Most of them think they're free when they have enough money and they don't when they don't.

and because of the debauchery that permeates the tele-screen and the virtual world.

Bullshit. Maybe because of the total propaganda effect of those media, but it ain't the debauchery per se. (Debauchery, that is already fundamentalist talk. Don't care if you're literally one or not. It's like those who think the Roman Empire "fell" because of orgies. Of course, it debatably never even fell; peak orgy might have been in 67 and actual sacking of Rome was in 476.)

Actually, I'll venture that in the U.S. more people think of themselves as free because they have a personal Jesus Christ in their hearts than for any other single cause.

The worst dehumanizers congregate, not in churches, but at round tables, think tanks, Congress, Senate, in defense corporations, Wall Street, and in Hollywood,

On Sundays most of those congregate at churches. Obama's speech after the initial bombing of Syria will very likely end with "God bless America."

[82_28]

So did OP ED go to that new composition class I heard Bob Dole was teaching in the newly remodelled campus of DIS.I.T that, I Bob Dole, taught as Bob Dole, because Bob Dole enjoys teaching and Bob Dole is the teacher for you? Jesus bro. And seriously what the fuck is the problem with you people not getting this? OP ED has now admitted he is young. Sweet. Welcome to Earth, homie. And Jack, WTF? You don't see through any of this as to what it motherfucking portends? Have you been on a space fucking station with no signal from Earth? Everything divideandconquer said. Everything.

[82_28]

Oh and the percentage of the amount of time 82_28 has spoken of this in "real life" is ZERO. It's not that big of a personal deal to 82_28. 82_28 just is approaching this with an eye to more precedent of this being normal while it is not and 82_28 fears for those who are young and grew up watching Cyrus and also live in an environment that does not appreciate basic humanity. 82_28 out. Peace bitchez.

[82_28]

I just saw this line by Jack and am continuing to study the nuances of everything here. I find it fascinating. And only fascinating.

The Pentagon's doing this? Through Miley Cyrus? The Illuminati? The Federal Reserve, the Rockefeller-Rothschilds? Who?

Yes, bro. There's a reason. Perhaps the "Pentagon" is an older Miley Cyrus? No shit. Perhaps. I'm not even gonna go into super speculative etymology because I don't have time nor expertise. But there was a reason for us here at RI and still in the trash media to still talk about it and broadcast the bullshit.

A "debacle" is a word no longer used for a star who fucks up. The public feeds off debacles. The debacles are senseless, thus the public gains nothing, yet those who stage them do. Why is this?

[OP ED]

So did OP ED go to that new composition class I heard Bob Dole was teaching in the newly remodelled campus of DIS.I.T that, I Bob Dole, taught as Bob Dole, because Bob Dole enjoys teaching and Bob Dole is the teacher for you? Jesus bro. And seriously what the fuck is the problem with you people not getting this? OP ED has now admitted he is young. Sweet. Welcome to Earth, homie. And Jack, WTF? You don't see through any of this as to what it motherfucking portends? Have you been on a space fucking station with no signal from Earth? Everything divideandconquer said. Everything.

jesus houdini christ.

OP ED always speaks of itself this way. it increases the odds of google searches including the term "op ed" of finding their way to OP ED's opinions and rants on various blogs and bulletin boards scattered throughout the innerwebbings. although OP ED spends more time here than anywhere else.

OP ED has been young for a long time now. and getting younger every day it seems.

[not that OP ED has ever tried to hide this, having pointed out that it was younger than britney spears in a very similar thread like half a dozen years ago]

[also OP ED's appearance, real name, and approximate real-world location are all available to anyone willing to wade through OP ED's hobby/thread in the data dump, as OP ED has no issue with owning its opinions and schemes and shortcomings before Jesus and the World]

this doesn't PORTEND anything, btw. OP ED just pointed out that it participated in a very similar omg britney spears is a slut and causing the downfall of western civilaztion type thread on this very board during her coming out party.

also, slightly more minutes ago OP ED pointed out the remarkably similar outrage at Madonna for having the audacity to own her sex at the goddamned VMAs [!!!] like thirty fucking years ago. for christ's sake. when is whatever downfall this "debauchery" "portends" going to happen? at this rate OP ED will be arguing about this, from the nursing home, with your corpse, while still waiting patiently for the historically inept American Military to assume its powers of total control...

...

[OP ED already knew you love Jesus, D.A.C., from the first time you used the word "debauchery" in a sentence. OP ED could smell his blood all over you.]

[you wanna see a manual for total control of a subservient population for thousands of years? https://www.bible.com/ would be a good start. you can watch the conversions to sheephood unfold before your very eyes]

...

btw OP ED owns most of the RMA [and equivalent] documentations that have been made public. they're kinda scary until you can see that they're so shortsighted and simultaneously over ambitious that they're also hopelessly outdated before they're even in the pre-production stages of being implemented. you do realize we're talking about the same organizations that spent a decade looking for the most famous man on earth and somehow neglected looking at his house?

[conspiracy theories aside, OP ED considers it a fact that the vast vast majority of soldiers really did think they were looking for him]

...

back to the points. this is not debauchery. and it is certainly not a sex magic ritual. OP ED is quite familiar with these things, and Miley Cyrus is much too vanilla and boring to have ever been invited to participate in either.

what it is, is a very clever career move by people who aren't as naive and sex-sheltered as a lot of other [mostly old] people who apparently watch entirely too much television.

[justdrew]

and if you can handle the troof...
Major Lazer - Bubble Butt (feat. Bruno Mars, 2 Chainz, Tyga & Mystic) - Directed by Eric Wareheim

[JackRiddler]

OP ED



See? I know love after all!!!

[OP ED]

OP ED



See? I know love after all!!!

OP ED has always been a large fan of youself, you know.

let's find the foam finger in the closet and OP ED can show you just how LARGE of a fan.

[justdrew]

divideandconquer, all that really sounds like warmed over Bircherisms.

(btw - all the good dylan is filed under Elston Gunn)




listen...


It's a big ol world full of lots of different people. Your fear of people imitating what you consider to be bad examples is a hopeless crusade. and if things really are as controlled as you suspect, fuck, give up, taint a thing ANYONE could do about anything if that were true. Which it aint.

Sure there may be some efforts at social engineering. but look how hamfisted it usually is. "this is yer brain on drugs" etc. Really the issue is more of cultural inertia and group reinforcement of faulty norms through shame and fear. Knock it off.

Freedom? Come on. There is no perfect freedom, everyone is constrained by something(s).

pick yer poison. and after 18 (before really, from day 1 really, it's up to the individual. Parents have no right to control children's learning, the cure for bad things is presenting good things, not trying to keep a fucking secret. Assuming the parent-child relationship has not been damaged, a child will tend to gravitate to the interests of the parents initially, eventually branching out.)

[82_28]

Bro, if you don't get 82_28's points yet at that not about TURNING off or "KILLING" your TV, you simply will never get 82_28's points or Ted Smith's or crasspastor's or whatever it is I run with too. I have many motherfucking personas on this here whatever it is. Go to motherfucking all the networks and get them to shut their shit off. Until then, the damage is being done apace and attitudes such as yours and etc, in my opinion only help to egg it on. However, 82_28 made a point that 82_28 thinks is serious not for 82_28's edification of being right, but understanding that fucking toddlers in 2000 are probably not logging into RI and having this discussion yet in 2013. Jesus. It's easy.

The forest for the trees has been presented in a way all of us can get along with. Yet the point is being missed. The fucking trees.

Normalization to a new generation. That's the forest, homie. The trees are our young people we do not want to see get PSEUDO mounted by some fucking hip hop star on a stage and make that normal. Dig? No you won't dig because OP ED is where it's at. Just like Bob Dole. God I miss Bob Dole. It was so much easier.

And also, fuck you. Yep, said it as a closing point. I sat with a female friend of mine for an hour or so who had some sexual issues in and of the ACT OF sex she did with someone else today and she laid it on me. No, no puns.

My answer was that "there are people here for you and don't worry. If you need anything here's my number." I'm the most un-creepy motherfucker you could meet. Oh yeah, 82_28 is the most un-creepy motherfucker you could meet. Forgot that I was 82_28 for a moment. But I didn't pretend to mount her in front of millions while 82_28 said something along the lines I have written all thread long.

You said it OP ED, Jesus horatio Christ. All you people need to go find your nearest mirror.

EDIT: oh, houdini not horatio.

[OP ED]

OP ED must still be missing something.

[other than that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery]

that is, it is still not clear in what way that adults engaged in simulated sex acts on an adult show on a cable network during primetime has anything to do with an illuminati scheme to turn everyone into robots.

and you're much too late. its already beyond normalized. half of all popular music has ALWAYS been about sex. and not always sex involving smushy lovey flowers and rainbows and stuff.

[also not understanding what your story and your distraught friend have to do with programming on a station that has promoted itself as edgy and rebellious for three decades]

[olde news]

the VMAs have always been for maturer audiences and the themes were never designed for children. As mentioned previously, this has been a well established fact since before OP ED was even born. dozens of "controversial" artists brought their sex and death and drugs to the stage over those years.

here's one OP ED watched though:



[OP ED was 14]

of course, by this point OP ED had also seen probably several thousand depictions of murders on television. which few seem to get so worked up about as they do about sex, for whatever mindlessly neurotic americanish reasonings.

OP ED's comrades would've considered Cyrus's displays to be rather lame in comparison to ANY Marilyn Manson show.

[but its okay for Manson to masturbate on stage when he feels like it, or whatever else, because he is not a woman and doesn't have to constantly reestablish his purity credentials]

also, OP ED does agree. OP ED is where its at.

and also, yes, Houdini, because of his consummate escape artistry.

[justdrew]

imagine a VMA in which the "performers" could actually perform MUSIC, rather than jump around like a bunch of mall-damaged idiots. Really Pathetic breed of people like that 2013 VMA shit, it's too bad, but they're out there and what's the point of agonizing over it.

Truth is the % of people who give a flying fuck bout ANY of the bands on that is quite small. Most people of all ages are into a far broader range of things. but the only audience mtv has left is the sheltered-clueless who think, wrongly, there's still something going on there...

My CONTEMPT - stylistically - for the 2013 VMA and every "band" associated is boundless.

but the best revenge is to simply ignore it.

and I'll fight to the death for Millie's right to grind it.