BREAKING: Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders

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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:29 am

Hughes is now booked into Riverside County. A press release from the Sheriff's Dept will be released later today, and his booking into Riverside was video taped. KESQ will be running this either today or Monday.
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:06 pm

Hey, I won't believe it until Ginger says it is NOT true. :lol:
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Postby American Dream » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:55 pm

Doogie, I'm stlll puzzled how you can be so sure about certain things but not sure at all about Gunderson and Riconosciuto...
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Postby psynapz » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:02 pm

desertfae wrote:Hughes is now booked into Riverside County. A press release from the Sheriff's Dept will be released later today, and his booking into Riverside was video taped. KESQ will be running this either today or Monday.

Congrats! It's an honor that you continue to join us here. You must feel awesome right now in some very complicated way.
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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:43 pm

Dr_Doogie wrote:Hey, I won't believe it until Ginger says it is NOT true. :lol:

haha
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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:44 pm

American Dream wrote:Doogie, I'm stlll puzzled how you can be so sure about certain things but not sure at all about Gunderson and Riconosciuto...

AD, why do you continue to pick on Doogie?
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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:49 pm

psynapz wrote:Congrats! It's an honor that you continue to join us here. You must feel awesome right now in some very complicated way.

Umm, awesome is not how I feel. I'm happy that he's back in California though, although I expect the stalling from his attorneys to continue, so now with Hughes, it's a waiting game from here. His first hearing is scheduled for 12/17 but as I understand it, it will likely be moved to 12/15 (Tues). That hearing is just a general hearing, not much of anything, so I won't be attending it, he probably won't even be in court for it himself lol.
Right now I'm focusing on other parts of the investigation so it keeps my mind occupied.
The investigation is far from over.
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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:53 pm

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=11669648

FIRST ON 3: Triple Murder Suspect Arrives In Riverside County To Stand Trial

By Nathan Baca, News Channel 3 Reporter
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RIVERSIDE - Jimmy Hughes, wanted for a 1981 triple murder in Rancho Mirage, was booked in a Riverside jail late Saturday night. Riverside County Sheriffs detectives took him into custody at a Miami jail and flew him to Ontario airport. Hughes is now booked at the Robert Pressley Detention Center. His first scheduled court date is Thursday, December 17th at 8:00AM.

On July 1st, 1981, Fred Alvarez, his girlfriend Patty Castro, and friend Ralph Boger were shot to death at 35040 Bob Hope Drive in Rancho Mirage. There was a house there that has since been bulldozed.

As previously reported on KESQ.com, This cold case is known as the "Octopus Murders," a term coined by investigative journalist Danny Casolaro in 1991, because the murder plot has tentacles that reach into our police agencies, Indian tribes and political leaders.

Detectives now believe it was a contract killing and that, 52 year old Jimmy Hughes is the hitman.

Hughes was arrested as his plane was waiting on the tarmac at Miami airport September. He was on his way to Honduras, where he now runs a Christian ministry. Extradition for Hughes from the Miami-Dade Pre-Trial Detention Center had been postponed for three months until Hughes' attorney declared they would no longer fight extradition earlier this month.

Nearly 30 years ago, Hughes was security chief for the Cabazon Band of Mission Indians. Tribal Vice Chairman Fred Alvarez was going to blow the whistle on weapons manufacturing deals between the tribe and defense contractors, including Wackenhut Corporation. Those weapons deals later turned into database software development that became a major spy scandal known as "PROMIS" with national security impacts to this day.

Rachel Begley, daughter of murder victim Ralph Boger, confronted Hughes last year with a hidden camera and demanded answers.

Begley said to Hughes, "You were the 'bagman' in our father's murder. I'd like to talk to you about that." Hughes, confronted during a break at an evangelical conference in California replied, "I have nothing to say about that. Can't can't. Can't say anything about that"

Hughes added, "I want to forget about a past that is ever so awful and scary in my past. I don't live there anymore. I don't got nothing to do with that. Screw the FBI. Screw the police. Screw everybody in my past. The world I live in is screwed up." "I wake up in the morning with a clear conscience. Let me tell you something about my past. My past is dead. I don't care about my past. My past is my past. It's none of your business. It's nobody's business. I don't care who died. I don't care who got killed. I was trained in the military. I killed people all over the world, right or wrong because the government ordered me to," said Hughes.

Hughes even admitted to shooting at least 6 people in the head as a professional hitman on the website of the Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship. Hughes explained to Begley, "Your parents got killed. In a mafia hit. That's life. That's what happened. Your parents were involved in some very dangerous things. Your dads. That's the only thing I can tell you. Your dad and I were friends. I knew your dad. He touched... He touched somebody. They gave an order and that is what happened to him." "It's a lot bigger than the murder of this guy or the murder of that guy. It is a big... You're talking political people," said Hughes.

From Richard Armitage to William Weld, those political people include a "who's who" of past Republican Administrations. Documents obtained by News Channel 3 show many of the weapons made on tribal land were meant for the Iran-Contra arms deals.

Hughes claimed, "I was investigated by the FBI. I was indoctrinated by... I was messed around by them. So I don't care. I can't tell you anything that the police don't already know."
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Postby desertfae » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:12 pm

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Postby Dr_Doogie » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:48 am

American Dream wrote:Doogie, I'm stlll puzzled how you can be so sure about certain things but not sure at all about Gunderson and Riconosciuto...


AD, do you look under your bed before you go to sleep to see if the boogeymen TG and MR are hiding there?

Really, how much of the case against Hughes is based on anything that either of these two guys has said? The honest answer is we don't know since the details of the indictment are sealed, but realistically, probably NONE of it. So whether Ted or Michael are prophets or lunatics or frauds is immaterial to the Hughes case.

You asked me this question before and I answered it. However, you responded by quoting the rule against making claims that members here are disinfo agents. So forgive me if I do not fall for the same stunt again.
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:53 am

desertfae wrote:Hughes' Riverside Booking Pic


Looks like Jimbo hasn't had much sleep in jail.
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Postby Searcher08 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:18 am

Dr_Doogie wrote:
desertfae wrote:Hughes' Riverside Booking Pic


Looks like Jimbo hasn't had much sleep in jail.


Rachel, I remember reading your very courteous treatment of supporters of Jimmy Hughes who had left comments on your youtube videos, and being very clear on how you wanted to see justice done, but had no hatred in your heart towards this man.

I was thinking this is a really powerful, expressive picture.

I sensed someone who had done evil things in their life, but who was not fundamentally evil, who at some level inside was now facing/reflecting on what they had done.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:38 pm

I hope he's facing his past, Searcher. But if he's like the sociopaths I've known, his only true regret will be that he got caught. And perhaps that he gave in to the urge to brag on his bad guy hit man past on that Christian website.

Lots of people reinvent themselves and move on after criminal careers end and for most it's probably a sincere attempt at living an honest life and doing good in the world and it's accompanied by a deep sense of remorse. But for a sociopath, it's simply a change of role--they're born actors who see themselves as the mega-star of the movie of Life, with their name in lights.

I'm happy for desertfae and glad that he's in CA and I hope that justice prevails at his trial, but I'm doubtful that a bottom-feeder like Hughes will be able (or allowed) to bring down any of the powerful people who made up the head of the Octopus back then...wouldn't that be something to see?!

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Postby American Dream » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:47 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:
I'm doubtful that a bottom-feeder like Hughes will be able (or allowed) to bring down any of the powerful people who made up the head of the Octopus back then...wouldn't that be something to see?!


I agree, and I'm doubtful also that even the most immediate conspirators with Jimmy Hughes will face justice, much less those who really co-ordianted ed that particular hit job-much, much less the powerful people and organizations who really orchestrated Cabazon.

I don't think it's in the interest of the Riverside County detective co-ordinating the case (John Powers) to really dig more deeply than making the case for anything more than a simple homicide by this one accused perpetrator.

If not, what am I missing?
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