Anderson Cooper "Exposing" Newtown Conspiracy Theory 1/11/13

[barracuda]

Why would the Greenwich police have the registration record of Nancy Lanza's car, which was found at the scene of a crime in Newtown?

I didn't consider the idea that Greenwich wouldn't have the physical registration. I guess my line of thinking was that Kordick or someone else could publish a screen cap of the official auto registration data, but how that might be authenticated without tying oneself to the leak is beyond me.

[compared2what?]

Why would the Greenwich police have the registration record of Nancy Lanza's car, which was found at the scene of a crime in Newtown?

I didn't consider the idea that Greenwich wouldn't have the physical registration. I guess my line of thinking was that Kordick or someone else could publish a screen cap of the official auto registration data, but how that might be authenticated without tying oneself to the leak is beyond me.

The "have" would apply to it whatever form it was in.

he police can't go around showily pulling records on people and/or cars that aren't a part of anything their duties charge them with looking into just to please lupercal just because they have access to them. That type of thing is frowned upon in would-be free societies.

[lupercal]

Oh look, it's a 2010 Honda!

2) The 872YEO Honda is in fact registered to Nancy Lanza, and the Rodia kerfuffle is an artful diversion devised to set up unwary "truthers" for exposure as when the record is eventually produced;

I'd go with this one as the partially correct answer. When questioned, Lt. Vance (on, I believe, the 2nd of January) made a public statement that "The car confiscated at the scene, the black Honda with that license plate, belongs to a relative of Lanza's and not to Rodia". (He also stated he had never heard of Rodia.) So the car may be registered to Ryan or Nancy, or even Peter.

It's also a partial answer because the diversion is probably part of the series of red herrings pushed virally by persons completely outside of law enforcement, meaning the gun nuts and the conspiratainment interests looking for page hits. Any spoon that stirs the soup.

Not to cast aspersions, but 1) the elegant Cap'n Kerick could easily release the Honda registration record if he wanted to, and he hasn't;

I seriously, seriously doubt that. Releasing information regarding a vehicle in police custody as part of the Sandy Hook case would certainly be considered interfering with an ongoing police investigation. As well, the car may belong to a living person as noted above, and thus putting that person in the same position as Rodia - harassment by "Hookers". He would get fucked from here to Tuesday. Goodbye, cushy Commander job, goodbye!



Hello, co-defendant status in the upcoming lawsuits!

and 2) If multiple US law enforcement and intel agencies wanted Radioman911's youtube taken down, I imagine it would be, and it hasn't been.

Of course not. It's a rolling stone that actually gathers moss. For them. Very effectively. And furthermore, there's not a single thing illegal in any way about what he's done.

We'll leave aside your usual crop of whoppers (let's pretend it's satire), like the idea that a CT cop could be subject to a lawsuit for releasing registration information on the Sandy Hook shooter's car if it were actually registered to the deceased Nancy Lanza, har har. Let's instead consider Radioman911's YouTube for a minute:

And furthermore, there's not a single thing illegal in any way about what he's done.

We don't really know exactly what he's done, but it appears that if he spliced two broadcasts together in such a way as to correspond to real time, he must have left at least half of one of them out in order to create an accurate-to-the minute audio stream . Here's how he describes what he did:

Radio traffic from Newtown PD & FD mixed with CT State Police. Original audio tracks provided by RadioReference.com under Creative Commons license. This video is copyright Radioman911TV.

*NOTE: This recording also contains police radio traffic from Fairfield County unrelated to this incident.

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYo ... r_embedded

Oddly enough, user comments have been disabled for this YouTube just in the last few hours, go figure. But earlier this evening I read a response from Radioman911 explaining that he'd made the video "accurate to the minute but not to the second."

That raises two questions: First, if Radioman911 did cut at least two different broadcasts into a collage, why did he do it in such a way as to make it distinctly appear that Rodia is the registered owner of the 872YEO Civic, if he isn't? And as I've said several time, the broadcast as posted makes that crystal clear. If it's actually two broadcasts spliced together, why on earth would he deliberately create that impression?

Secondly: If Radioman911 did splice two broadcasts together and the 872YEO Honda isn't really registered to Rodia, who IS it registered to -- what was the dispatcher's answer? And why did Radioman leave it on the cutting room floor? Because if he didn't cut it out, and tucked into a later part of the video, none of the legion of minders including our own Justice for Rodia chapter have mentioned it, and it would have made their debunkery jobs infinitely easier. So I'll assume it isn't there until proven otherwise.

So: if Radioman911 1) edited two broadcasts together to make it appear that Rodia is the owner of the 872YEO Honda, why? And 2) what was the answer to the dispatcher's questions, and why did he cut it out? It can't be for legal reasons because as barracuda admits, making car registration info public is perfectly legal, that is unless you're a CT cop named Cap'n Kordick. If he really did splice together a false lead, the duplicity would cause me to lean toward psy-op option 3:

3) The 872YEO Honda is registered to neither, and Rodia is the unlucky patsy selected to cover up the fact, with artfully conflicting "evidence" like the police broadcast floated to hopelessly problematize the question.

However, it's also possible that Rodia is the registered owner, and that Radioman911 was simply cowed into posting Kordick's note and allowing the impression to stand. Hard to imagine anyone being so easily intimidated, so I'm up in the air on this one, except for being just about certain that it isn't #2, and that the shooter's car was NOT registered to one of the Lanzas.

[barracuda]

I dunno what you read, but t'weren't what I said.

Let's review, shall we?

Releasing information regarding a vehicle in police custody as part of the Sandy Hook case would certainly be considered interfering with an ongoing police investigation. As well, the car may belong to a living person as noted above, and thus putting that person in the same position as Rodia - harassment by "Hookers".

So go ahead and tell us why you think releasing the registration would be a perfectly legal and okey-doke thing for a Greenwich police officer to do without relying upon some invented "admissions" by me.

Regarding Radiohead911: I posted the raw files from radioreference on the other thread. I'm guessing you didn't listen to them, and after all the trouble I went through to procure them for your convenience. They are the source files. They contain all the same information which lead yourself and others to undiscriminatingly confuse the two radio channels as belonging to a single conversation. So the particular feed that has caused you to traduce Chris Rodia is a raw source file, unmolested by whatever Radioman911 did to produce his YouTube video. There's no one to blame but yourself, which I realize is an awful position for anyone to find themselves in. My condolences.

[compared2what?]

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We'll leave aside your usual crop of whoppers (let's pretend it's satire), like the idea that a CT cop could be subject to a lawsuit for releasing registration information on the Sandy Hook shooter's car if it were actually registered to the deceased Nancy Lanza, har har.

He'd be fired if he took that or any other action wrt the Sandy Hook shooting, and the first line of his letter says so in plain legalese:

While I am far from qualified to comment on any aspect of the Newtown investigation, I can put forth the following by way of explanation relative to the Christopher Rodia situation.

.

Let's instead consider Radioman911's YouTube for a minute:

Heads up. You are one post beginning with the words "No," "Nope," "Wrong," or "Not [PHRASE OR ASSERTION FROM POST YOU"RE RESPONDING TO HERE]] away from being over your quota of stylistic Hugh-isms for the topic.

[lupercal]

I dunno what you read,

This for starters, which I already quoted. How soon we forget:

And furthermore, there's not a single thing illegal in any way about what he's done.

But enough foolery. The sound files you posted on page 21 of the Sandy Hook thread are odd because as far as I can tell they make no mention of Rodia, Lanza, or the 872YEO Honda:

Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

People who know me know that I've been known to pay for things that interest me that I want to know more about so long as the price is not too dear. It's a "fool and his money" sorta thing. But it seems to me that the possibility of a second shooter is a central feature of this discussion.

Anyway, I uploaded the Fairfield County Police, Fire, and EMS audio feeds which feature in the Christopher Rodia piece of this cul-de-sac. Here they are, make your own conclusions regarding The Strange Case of Christopher Rodia:

9:34 to 10:04
http://kiwi6.com/file/9r700x7red

10:04 to 10:34
http://kiwi6.com/file/dts5xpa5ng

This makes me seriously wonder if you bothered to listen to them. Also, the Radioman911 video, which has dramatically more Sandy Hook material on it, was first posted to facebook on Dec. 14, the same day as the shooting, per its YouTube statistics page:

First embedded on: facebook.com

Dec 14, 2012 - 2,105 views

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYo ... r_embedded

Curioser and curioser . . .

[barracuda]

Good Lord, do I have to actually hold your dick through the process? Take forty seconds out of your day and go to 1:35 of the second file and listen all the way through 2:15 or so.

[barracuda]

I dunno what you read,

This for starters, which I already quoted. How soon we forget:

And furthermore, there's not a single thing illegal in any way about what he's done.

There's nothing illegal about what Radioman has done, no. But that doesn't allow a Greenwich policeman to release information on an ongoing investigation.

Are you ESL, or what?

[compared2what?]

I dunno what you read,

This for starters, which I already quoted. How soon we forget:

And furthermore, there's not a single thing illegal in any way about what he's done.

But enough foolery. The sound files you posted on page 21 of the Sandy Hook thread are odd because as far as I can tell they make no mention of Rodia, Lanza, or the 872YEO Honda:

Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

People who know me know that I've been known to pay for things that interest me that I want to know more about so long as the price is not too dear. It's a "fool and his money" sorta thing. But it seems to me that the possibility of a second shooter is a central feature of this discussion.

Anyway, I uploaded the Fairfield County Police, Fire, and EMS audio feeds which feature in the Christopher Rodia piece of this cul-de-sac. Here they are, make your own conclusions regarding The Strange Case of Christopher Rodia:

9:34 to 10:04
http://kiwi6.com/file/9r700x7red

10:04 to 10:34
http://kiwi6.com/file/dts5xpa5ng

This makes me seriously wonder if you bothered to listen to them.

Confidential to barracuda:

If you give him the minute-second mark, he'll never learn to do his own work.

.

[barracuda]

Too late. I fucked up again. I can only pray he neglects to report back what he thinks he's found out next. A vain prayer, yes, but a prayer nonetheless.

[JackRiddler]

Radioman sounds like Rodia. They're one guy. Can't trust him. Both sound like Kordick, which sounds a lot like Kubrick. Therefore aliens.

[lupercal]

Confidential to barracuda:

If you give him the minute-second mark, he'll never learn to do his own work.

Ah but I did my work, and voila, the hider-in-chief spills his precious beans:

go to 1:35 of the second file and listen all the way through 2:15 or so.

And sure enough, there it is: 872 YEO is registered to Chris A. Rodia, just like in the youtube but even clearer, because it doesn't have another broadcast laid over it:

http://kiwi6.com/file/dts5xpa5ng

As beans go barracuda that one isn't bad. And it looks like I was right the first time, along with all those other bloggers and posters. I suppose there's a slim chance they're both faked, but I really doubt it, especially as it now appears that Radioman911 made his video not by cutting and splicing but by stacking multiple transmissions on top of each other.

p.s. this was my also my experience with 9/11 evidence: generally the psy-ops didn't go all that deep, and if some TV imagery looked fake for example, it more than likely was.

[barracuda]

Boy, that was predictable. So you hadn't listened to the evidence posted a month ago. No doubt you haven't listened to the rest of the recordings either. And now you're reposting it like you made a discovery akin to the polio vaccine. You have no experience interpreting what you've heard, and haven't read or understood posted commentary by professionals who do. You spent the last month arguing out of the side of your neck. And finally, you're flat-out subscribing to the tv-fakery line of 911 "research".

I just rolled my eyes so fucking hard I think I pulled my superior rectus muscles.

[lupercal]

You spent the last month arguing out of the side of your neck.

So did you and the jackanapes crew. Unlike you guys however I was being truthful.

[barracuda]

Truthfully stupid. Truly.