"Big Bamboozle" 9/11 Truth Author And Family Found Dead

[Hammer of Los]

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Well someone should get the wiki page on poor old Barry Jennings done.

He don't need no cloak of anonymity no more.

He never had its blessing anyway.

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[barracuda]

Mom of murdered children interviewed
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Plummer was Marshall’s wife. They separated from him in 2008 and filed for divorce last fall. She was in Turkey on a business trip at the time of the killings. She is changing her legal name back to Plummer, her maiden name.

She said she isn’t ready to talk publicly about Marshall. At some point, she said, she plans to address questions related to mental illness and gun control.

“That’s the next chapter,” said her close friend Sandra Fischman, of Lafayette, whom Alex and Macaila knew as an aunt and whose two children grew up with them.

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[slimmouse]

Anyways... I read Madsen's write-up yesterday and didn't see a single piece of new information in it. So I read the Barrett show interview just now with great interest and looking for some new information, and lo and behold, I have to say, amongst the frappé of spin and conjecture, I didn't see a single piece of new information in it. Again.

I thought there a were a few bits of information there that I personally hadn't heard. Far closer proximity of the neighbours than I had been led to believe for instance. And perhaps they were being polite, but the neighbours appearred to insist that there appeared absolutely nothing wrong with Marshall or his relationship with his kids - amongst other things.

Was Madsen cherry picking his witnesses ? His speculative zeal shouldnt surprise us for sure.

[barracuda]

I thought there a were a few bits of information there that I personally hadn't heard. Far closer proximity of the neighbours than I had been led to believe for instance.

I already knew about that, 'cause my internets comes with Google Maps.

[Six Hits of Sunshine]

Daniel Hopsicker weighs in.

Some bits:

I was pointed to a transcript of a radio interview of Madsen conducted by Kevin Barrett, a self-styled "American Jihadist."

Read a typical comment left on Jarret’s website after Madsen's interview, "Speaking of “government” (i.e. Bolshevik Jewish) treachery, I’m sure most readers here have by now heard of (and/or seen) the so-called “No More Hesitation” targets being offered to “law enforcement” agencies by (and I’m going to out on a limb here and speculate) some Jew-owned company,”

“He was a former associate of the CIA/DEA informant Barry Seal, the notorious CIA cocaine smuggler,” opined Jarrett on the show. “And if you think Phillip Marshall killed himself and his two children as the police are trying to claim; well, I don’t know…you need to go back to school.”

His guest, Wayne Madsen, is a (usually) more creditable source.

“Well Phillip Marshall, I have to admit,” Madsen tells Jarrett, “I wasn’t all that familiar with his work. But when I read his biography along with the…some really scurrilous news reports that, ‘yknow, he was this, ‘yknow, this repressed killer who snapped, and put a gun on the head of his 17 year old son and his 14 year old daughter, and his little pet Shih Tzu, Suki, y’know, you start to wonder what in the world is going on here.”

The implication that there is something unusual about a “repressed killer who snapped and put a gun to the head of his 17-tear old son and 14-tear old daughter" seems a little…unusual.

AND

Marshall had problems with alcohol, was attention-seeking, egotistical, could be mean, and had a temper. He was nearly fired after yelling at a superior at Eastern Air Lines. He would throw clubs in the water while golfing.

“He had a problem with authority figures in his life,” she said. “One time he wanted me to roll down the (car) window to yell at a police officer.”

When she refused, she recalled, “He kind of got mad and smacked me back against the seat.”

Could someone have “gotten” to the ex-wife? Well, sure.

Could they also have gotten to the current friends of Marshall’s, who—to avoid speaking poorly of the dead—have only delicately raised questions of Marshall’s mental health at the time of his death?

Well, sure. But the only real question is: DID they? In the absence of compelling evidence to question their motives, the answer is simple. No, they did not. And here is where the disservice to the truth by attention-seekers and their deluded and credulous followers becomes most apparent.

People who see conspiracies where none exist render ridiculous-by-association people questioning the multitude of conspiracies that do.

More importantly, this is not the way things work in the real world.

[barracuda]

Thanks for that, Six Hits. The whole article is definitely worth a read.

Here’s what happened:

Seal’s pilot’s license had been suspended while he awaited trial in Miami. He engaged Marshall to fly him back and forth between there and his home in Baton Rouge.

The much-older Seal did have one protégé who was Marshall’s age, a man I found and interviewed for Barry & 'the boys.' Of the dozens of close Seal associates I interviewed, not one ever mentioned Philip Marshall.

In fairness, the world of aviation in Louisiana, which I wrote about in a book about Barry Seal called “Barry & the boys,’ can best be described as “murky.”

But someone who knew Marshall at this time, his ex-wife, Ann Kallauner, a nurse in Louisiana, offered some clarity. Kallauner was wed to Marshall in 1985 (exactly the time frame when Marshall knew Seal.)

She told the local Union Democrat that her ex-husband “provided a kind of taxi service for Barry Seal, who the paper (inaccurately) reported “was assassinated by a trio of Medellin Cartel henchmen from Colombia.”

Kallauner said Marshall met Seal through “a friend of a friend” while teaching other pilots to fly from Lakefront Airport in New Orleans.

After Seal had his pilot’s license revoked, he hired Marshall to fly with him between New Orleans and Miami or Fort Lauderdale.

Seal often flew while Marshall remained in the jump seat, but Marshall never went with him into Nicaragua, she said.

“He wasn’t any Contra pilot,” said Kallauner. “That was all just a fantasy.”

A close associate of Seal’s, who asked to remain nameless, confirmed to me that her recollections were correct.

[JackRiddler]

People who see conspiracies where none exist render ridiculous-by-association people questioning the multitude of conspiracies that do.

Absolutely so. Now if only there were a trusty consensus rule for making the distinction.

[jfshade]

Thanks for that, Six Hits. The whole article is definitely worth a read.

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After Seal had his pilot’s license revoked, he hired Marshall to fly with him between New Orleans and Miami or Fort Lauderdale.

Seal often flew while Marshall remained in the jump seat, but Marshall never went with him into Nicaragua, she said.

“He wasn’t any Contra pilot,” said Kallauner. “That was all just a fantasy.”

I've read about 2/3 of Marshall's 2008 book, "False Flag 911", in the last couple days. Just as a point of clarification, he explicitly states in it that he never flew out of the US either with or for Barry Seal. He does talk about flying weapons, drugs and money around the country, and meeting Oliver North under the pseudonym of "John Cathey," which I believe is the name by which Terry Reed knew him.

More interesting to me were Marshall's observations - as a veteran pilot of 757's and 767's - of the quantum leap in instrumental complexity of those planes over older commercial jets, and the utter impossibility that pilots without a great deal of experience flying them could have performed the maneuvers attributed to Atta, Hanjour and al-Shehhi.

[FourthBase]

Asked one, “Are you following the Phillip Marshall thing?”

I replied, “Nope. Looks like suicide to me.”

Alrighty then.

By itself this isn’t proof that Marshall wasn’t killed by the government. But added to the fact that, of the 27,000 books on 9/11, all but Marshall are sleeping peacefully at night sets the bar pretty high for anyone seeking to prove he was murdered.

Breaking news: Daniel Hopsicker is Santa Claus. You better watch out!

Also, there are a variety of reasons why any of those authors could be sleeping peacefully. Maybe it's because they can rest peacefully knowing they're fulfilling their career dreams of being a disinfo propagandist. Maybe it's because they can rest a little easier after being promised by some sketchy man-in-a-suit that their kids will live happy, healthy lives...as long as the author doesn't "go there", wherever that is. Maybe they can sleep well at night because they don't give a fuck about mortality anymore and are willing to risk their lives for the greater and particular good of uncovering the truth. Or, maybe they don't sleep well at all, and Hopsicker just hasn't had the chance to drop down their chimney and spy on them in bed yet.

Marshall had problems with alcohol, was attention-seeking, egotistical, could be mean, and had a temper. He was nearly fired after yelling at a superior at Eastern Air Lines. He would throw clubs in the water while golfing.

“He had a problem with authority figures in his life,” she said. “One time he wanted me to roll down the (car) window to yell at a police officer.”

When she refused, she recalled, “He kind of got mad and smacked me back against the seat.”

Boozing, attention-seeking, egotistical, could be mean, had a temper, nearly fired, yelled once at a boss, got frustrated when playing golf, had problem with authority, and one time "smacked" (or maybe pushed) a passenger back against a seat so he could argue with a cop out the window. Yes, obviously, this is exactly the kind of person who murders his children and kills himself. And this will more or less be the kind of thing said about you if theyyy...I mean, you ever do something similar.

Gary Webb committed suicide on the day he lost his home. He'd already lost almost everything else: his family, his wife, his livelihood. An authentic American hero, Gary Webb was going to be moving home to live with his Mom.

Oh god no, not...living his Mom!?!? Well, just as Hopsicker implies, that obviously means he had to kill himself.

He'd already asked his ex-girlfriend if he could share her apartment. At first she had said yes, but then changed her mind at the last minute, not wanting to lead him on in the hope that they'd rekindle a romance.

Hopsicker seems to be a fan of bittersweet WB-style romantic-dramedy. And not much of a fan of conspiracy thrillers, where the bad guys have usually perfected ways of making people change their minds. But nah, that can't possibly be what happened. Cue the Paula Cole music.

Desperate, Webb asked his ex-wife if he could live with her until he regained his financial footing. She, too, refused.

Into the buzzsaw

On the night before losing his house, Webb lost his last real possession. His motorcycle was stolen.

So...more drama, a buzzsaw (What buzzsaw, Dan?), and then his bike happened to be stolen the night before losing his house. By whom, Hopsicker seems not to give a shit. Gee, it's almost as if, even if some hitmen didn't cut Webb's wrists themselves, there was some kind of "Operation Gaslight Webb to Death." Followed up by "Operation Murder Webb's Posthumous Reputation", or something. Good thing we have mavericks like Hopsicker to assure us otherwise and lead us away from even contemplating such possibilities.

He committed suicide the next day. And despite the nattering of clueless conspiracy theorists, I never doubted that that was exactly what happened. And I have since had nothing but contempt for those who claim otherwise.

Right back at ya, you might-as-well-be-if-not-actually sellout. Sleep well, cocksucker.

p.s. I don't have the time to bother with green font, but it should be plain where the sarcasm is.
p.p.s. I have zero interest in the inevitable debate about Marshall's character and conspiratardation.
p.p.p.s. I have two more things to do here, then I'm taking another semi-hiatus.
p.p.p.p.s. It's because I have to "go see about" a screenplay, and because I need a (fitful) rest.

[barracuda]

So...more drama, a buzzsaw (What buzzsaw, Dan?), and then his bike happened to be stolen the night before losing his house. By whom, Hopsicker seems not to give a shit. Gee, it's almost as if, even if some hitmen didn't cut Webb's wrists themselves, there was some kind of "Operation Gaslight Webb to Death." Followed up by "Operation Murder Webb's Posthumous Reputation", or something. Good thing we have mavericks like Hopsicker to assure us otherwise and lead us away from even contemplating such possibilities.

C'mon man, Hopsicker says almost the identical thing in his article:

Telling the truth in America often feels like walking "Into The Buzzsaw," the title of a very good book about journalists exiled to the American gulag, a Siberia of the mind where nothing you do or report subsequently is ever treated seriously.

Expose anything this country's large institutions want kept under wraps… and the buzzsaw rips through you.

Because they don't have to kill you to render you ineffective.

For the oligarchy ruling this country today, that part is easy.

Right back at ya, you might-as-well-be-if-not-actually sellout. Sleep well, cocksucker.

Daniel Hopsicker? A sellout and a cocksucker? Because he has a different opinion than you? Please.

The bar is set so low for sucking cock these days...

[divideandconquer]

Hopsicker lost me when he said Webb committed suicide. Webb was able to shoot himself in the head...twice? He was planning to move that morning and had the movers coming.. He was planning another book. Against all odds, he was successful going up against the most powerful people in the world. So I'm sorry, it's very hard to believe that courageous people like Webb, Swartz, and all of the other people who risk life and limb to expose the truth, all of a sudden, turn into a pile of mush, and decide to take the cowardly way out. Not to mention, by nature investigative journalist are CURIOUS... No real journalist would choose to die when they're still investigating and Gary Webb was as real a journalist as there was/is.

Marshall was still investigating, planned on writing another book, looking forward to the Super Bowl, etc....I don't believe he killed himself and his two kids for one second..And unless Madsen was telling complete lies, it appeared his neighbors didn't believe it either.

[barracuda]

There's plenty of perfectly rational reasons to think perhaps Gary Webb actually committed suicide. And multiple head wounds in suicides, though rare, do happen. I realize that's a sliver of sacrilege around here, and I may not even fully want to believe it myself, but I don't disqualify Hopsicker for that perspective.

Marshall was still investigating, planned on writing another book, looking forward to the Super Bowl, etc....I don't believe he killed himself and his two kids for one second..And unless Madsen was telling complete lies, it appeared his neighbors didn't believe it either.

I believe that the neighbors who were willing to talk to Wayne Madsen may have not believed it, but that doesn't give us much of an indication as to his sample size or the general consensus.

[FourthBase]

Remember this?

I was a lifelong friend of Mr. Marshall, we went to High School together in Mandeville La. We have been in contact over the years and he is the last person to commit suicide much less kill the children he adored. Right now it is being spun that he was despondent over his divorce or money problems even bringing up the altercation he had with his wife’s sister to show he was somehow unbalanced.. He was separated from his wife for years and if I am correct his divorce was finalized. He never wore a wedding ring and dated other women. His exwife lived in Murphys away from the subdivision he lived in. They found his wedding ring sitting on top of the bullets for the glock making it look like he took it off before he shot his kids and himself. To me this is the tell. This is obviously a hit. Also he was on medical disability from United and was not hurting for money. I was last with him in late December to watch a Saints game with him at my home and he was great. He was telling me that I would not believe what would be in his next book concerning 9/11. I guess he was right. The fool that killed this man and his kids obviously did not know him very well.

http://www.santabarbaraview.com/phillip-marshall-wrote-about-a-conspiracy-was-he-victim-of-one4254252/

Before this tragedy happened I was also one of those who followed the principle of “Occams Razor” in that the simplest explanation is the most accurate. At face value this looks like a murder-suicide. However those that really knew this man know that there is more to this story. He had been separated from his wife for several years and he was trying to help her get a import business going which is why she was out of touch in Turkey. She was using his flight privleges as a United pilot to fly to Turkey at litlle or no cost. He had been supporting her during this separation period and saw this as a way for her to get on her feet be independent so he would not have to continually support her. Before their marriage she was a skilled buyer for Nordstrom and he was encouraging her to use this skill. Also I noticed in one of the comments that “the final control over the wife he lost control over”. Again anyone that knew this man would know that the very last thing he cared was having control over people. He was a loving parent that was guiding his kids never controlling. He was an accomplished pilot who was joe cool the one you want flying your plane because he would not get excited in emergency situations.

As for the ring on the bullets that I mentioned above this was told to Phil’s family by the sheriffs office. To them it looks like murder suicide. I unfortunately had to tell my young daughter about this and it was very sad. When I told her about the ring on the bullets even she realized that he never wore his ring. She last saw Phil with his wife when she was about 3 or 4 she is now 11.

Because of human nature being what it is I do not believe this will be further investigated. Also I will not be making any motions for a investigation of this also. I believe he was killed and maybe it was for the 9/11 research he was doing. I am not willing to put my family or myself in harms way. Sorry but I also will not be contacting anyone online about this for the same reason.

I could go on and on about why he did not do this. In the end I have lost a lifelong friend who was a really great guy. Unfortunately people will not know this. I will miss him.

Sometimes a sample size of one is enough, sometimes one person is as good as any consensus.

[barracuda]

Not for me. In this case.

[StarmanSkye]

Wot Da FuGG?

Hopsicker is basicly saying the Criminal Syndicate Gummint doesn't HAVE to -and so doesn't- murder troublesome prying-where-they-shouldn't-stick-their-noses Journalists because they are FAR too-easily discreditted & their careers demolished in an instant should they be too stubborn & refuse to back-down, tone-down or 'spin' their stories?

-And that's WHY he doesn't believe Marshall, or by extension Webb, Hunter -Gonzo- Thompson, or JFK-assassination reporter Dorothy Kilgallen, among undoubted other rigorous newspeople couldn't POSSIBLY have killed-themselves or died by unnatural causes/murder.

But when he suggests he scorns anyone who disagrees with him, he's taking his own belief far too strongly. I simply don't know why he'd even bother to weigh-in unless its damage-control - or to insure his own survival. There are SCORES of loosely affiliated, semi-independant agancies & corporations w/ military/Intel associations & little if any direct 'gov' oversight that are likely motivated & capable of eliminating 'inconvenient' truth-tellers. Whose Hopsicker kidding?

If 'they' kill witnesses & people who know too much, from JFK and thru the Clinton & Bush Inc Body Counts, why WOULDN'T they kill journalists & writers?

In 2005, there were many thousands of suspicious deaths of occupation-protestors attributed to US-trained Iraqi Wolf Brigade, modeled after hard-right Death Squads in El Salvador - including Journalists & news/media-people who were critical of the occupation, shot 'accidently' by US Troops. Some 70,000 people in El Salvador were murdered by US-trained paramilitary forces simply for having 'leftist' sympathsies & not being enthusiastic supporters of the brutal military regime.