How Bad Is Global Warming?

[Burnt Hill]

thanks smoking, I will give it a look.
I think what really surprised me was the correlation with cardiac arrhythmias.
And thinking that knowing this much implies(to me!) that there is so much more we don't know!
* oh, and no to your last sentence

forgive me, i assumed that the 11 / 22 year cycle is an ancient phenomenon and something that most likely is factored into existing models, prepared to be wrong on that.

meanwhile... the jetstream is playing up a tad

Unusually Early Greenland Melt
http://polarportal.dk/en/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder/usaedvanlig-tidlig-afsmeltning-i-groenland/

Its not the solar cycles, it is the effects of the cosmic radiation that gets through that is being sussed out.
And how that can be manipulated.
That pdf's most recent reference is 2001.

It is possible to increase the flux of charged particles in the lower atmosphere using an electron
accelerator onboard airplane. The accelerated electrons can irradiate the cloud increasing ionization level
inside the cloud. In turn, it could increase precipitation.

How far has geoengineering advanced since then?
Perhaps further than a bit more rain.
Also, this is not about AGW denial.

[smoking since 1879]

thanks smoking, I will give it a look.
I think what really surprised me was the correlation with cardiac arrhythmias.
And thinking that knowing this much implies(to me!) that there is so much more we don't know!
* oh, and no to your last sentence

forgive me, i assumed that the 11 / 22 year cycle is an ancient phenomenon and something that most likely is factored into existing models, prepared to be wrong on that.

meanwhile... the jetstream is playing up a tad

Unusually Early Greenland Melt
http://polarportal.dk/en/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder/usaedvanlig-tidlig-afsmeltning-i-groenland/

Its not the solar cycles, it is the effects of the cosmic radiation that gets through that is being sussed out.
And how they can be manipulated.
That pdf's most recent reference is 2001.

It is possible to increase the flux of charged particles in the lower atmosphere using an electron
accelerator onboard airplane. The accelerated electrons can irradiate the cloud increasing ionization level
inside the cloud. In turn, it could increase precipitation.

How far has geoengineering advanced since then?
Perhaps further than a bit more rain.
Also, this is not about AGW denial.

How far has geoengineering advanced since then?
Perhaps further than a bit more rain.

mayhap it has, rumour has it the russians been doing it for years to make sure no one rains on their may day parade - and then we have all that chemtrail talk... spitting in the ocean imho.

Also, this is not about AGW denial.

ok, fair enough, but you posted it in the HBIGW thread, so i thought you were implying it was somehow relevant

[82_28]

Well we're headed to 30F whole degrees above normal today which is 59. It is now 87 when I checked just now.

[Burnt Hill]

How far has geoengineering advanced since then?
Perhaps further than a bit more rain.
Also, this is not about AGW denial.

How far has geoengineering advanced since then?
Perhaps further than a bit more rain.

mayhap it has, rumour has it the russians been doing it for years to make sure no one rains on their may day parade - and then we have all that chemtrail talk... spitting in the ocean imho.

ok, fair enough, but you posted it in the HBIGW thread, so i thought you were implying it was somehow relevant

Certainly tangental subject matter that I am considering.
Relevance yet to be determined.
Speculating on the extent of geoengineering leads to consideration of its potential cause and effects on climate change, this should be a good thread for such speculations.
There may be more there than spit in the ocean. Or not!

[Burnt Hill]

Well we're headed to 30F whole degrees above normal today which is 59. It is now 87 when I checked just now.

That's weather. Didn't Denver just get a foot of snow?

[82_28]

I think Denver only got a few inches. But I don't know because the people I talk to in Denver have been maliciously been cut off from me in interest of algorithms. The foothills got a couple feet. The same system dumped around 16 inches of rain in Houston and whatnot last night. That is half of what Seattle got since October and it is our wettest winter on record!

[82_28]

I've never seen a record shattered like this. Seattle is going to break it by more than 30. It's 89 now and sun is nowhere near setting.

[Burnt Hill]

I've never seen a record shattered like this. Seattle is going to break it by more than 30. It's 89 now and sun is nowhere near setting.

My weather app says record high for Seattle on April 18th was 80-so not by 30 degrees
Aveage high is 59.
No records here, but perfect low 70s and sunshine, loving it.

[82_28]

Oh no. A record. As you said and I did as well, normal is 59. 89 is 30 degrees from normal. The record I think is 74 or something.

[82_28]

SEATTLE -- Forget spring heat wave...

This is hot weather by even summer standards!

In fact, it's never been this hot in April before.

Seattle and much of Western Washington shattered heat records as an intense ridge of high pressure built in and brought in a very hot, east wind for an added temperature boost.

Seattle's preliminary high Monday was at 89 degrees, which forget about breaking the daily record high for the day (77 degrees) -- child's play. No, it's now the hottest April day ever recorded in Seattle -- by far! -- and that includes the old Downtown Federal Building records that go back to 1892. The old record was 85 degrees set on April 30, 1976 so even that date had the benefit of almost being in May. We're still what might be considered mid-April!

Some other weather tidbits to pass around the water cooler:

* The average high in Phoenix for April 18 is 86 degrees, and in Tucson it's 83. So it's a warm April day even by heart-of-the-desert standards.

* Speaking of which: The high in Phoenix was in fact 86, while it was 81 in Tucson and Las Vegas.

* Seattle was even warmer than Eastern Washington, running about 10 degrees hotter than Spokane Monday.

* Seattle's average first day above 80 is May 23. We already hit 80 on Sunday.

* Seattle has never had more than 2 days in the 80s in April before -- a record that will likely be broken Tuesday.

* Seattle has never had more than 3 days above 75 in April before -- another record that will likely be broken Tuesday.

* The average high in Seattle on April 18 is just 59 degrees. I'm not sure what the record is for most above-normal average day is, but we've got to be close.

* We'll very likely end up as the hottest April on record -- by far -- considering the warm stretch we had around April 7-9.

We're on tap for another very warm-to-hot day on Tuesday with temperatures reaching the mid-upper 80s again before some cooling returns for Wednesday and we head back to the more familiar 60s by the end of the week.

http://komonews.com/weather/scotts-weat ... in-seattle

[fruhmenschen]

March Continues Streak of Exceptional Global Warmth

Published: April 19th, 2016

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/marc ... rmth-20258

As representatives of the world’s nations prepare to gather later this week to sign a landmark agreement to limit the human-caused warming of the planet, global temperature records continue to pile up.

Not only was March 2016 handily the warmest March on record, according to data released Tuesday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, but the year to date has also been record warm.

Temperature departures from average for the planet for the period from January through March 2016.
Click image to enlarge. Credit: NOAA

The planet’s temperature for January through March was 1.15°C (2.07°F) above the 20th century average for the same period, according to NOAA. That puts it above the halfway mark to the stated goal of limiting warming to under 2°C (3.6°F) by the end of this century.

While an exception

[Luther Blissett]

From Jeff's page:

Greenland faces historic ice loss due to extreme melt

Almost 12% of Greenland’s ice sheet has melted beating the previous record for a melt of more than 10%, by almost a month. The Greenland ice sheet represents one of the most massive stores of ice on the planet. However, climate change with warm air and water temperatures is leading to the loss of millions of tons of ice each year.

The Danish Meteorological Institute crunched these numbers stating that this year the melt season has kicked off a month-and-a-half ahead of schedule.

Little to no melt through winter is the norm as sub-zero temperatures keep Greenland’s massive ice sheet, well, on ice. Warm weather usually kicks off the melt season in late May or early June, but this year is a bit different.

Record warm temperatures coupled with heavy rain mostly sparked 12 percent of the ice sheet to go into meltdown mode. Almost all the melt is currently centered around southwest Greenland, according to Grist.

According to Polar Portal, which monitors all things ice-related in the Arctic, melt season kicks off when 10 percent of the ice sheet experiences surface melt. The previous record for earliest start was May 5, 2010.

This April kickoff is so bizarrely early, scientists who study the ice sheet checked their analysis to make sure something wasn’t amiss before making the announcement.
“We had to check that our models were still working properly” Peter Langen, a climate scientist at the Denmark Meteorological Institute (DMI), told the Polar Portal.

The summit of the Greenland ice sheet has been record warm. It has reached 20.3°F (-6.5°C) which while obviously below freezing, is still record mild for this time of year and is roughly 40°F above normal. And the warmth isn't over yet.

If the warmth continues to worsen, then by 2100 the entire Greenland ice sheet could experience melting every year.

I read something about Greenland's southwestern coastal areas being downright hot lately.

[fruhmenschen]

https://robertscribbler.com

A Death of Beauty — Climate Change is Bleaching the Great Barrier Reef Out of Existence
Extinction.

It’s a hard, tough thing to consider. One of those possibilities people justifiably do not want to talk about. This notion that a creature we’re fond of and familiar with — a glorious living being along with all its near and distant relatives — could be entirely removed from the web of existence here on Earth.

Our aversion to the topic likely stems from our own fear of death. Or worse — the notion that the entire human race might eventually be faced with such an end. But extinction is a threat that we’ll see arising more and more as we force the world to rapidly warm. For species of the world now face existential crisis with increasing frequency as atmospheric and ocean temperatures have risen so fast that a growing number of them have simply become unable to cope with the heat.

The Great Barrier Reef of Australia — the world’s largest single structure made up of living organisms — is no exception. For this 1,440 mile long expanse of corals composed of more than 2,900 individual reefs that has existed in one form or another for 600,000 years has suffered a severe blow — one from which it may never be able to recover. OA Death of Beauty — Climate Change is Bleaching the Great Barrier Reef Out of Existence
Extinction.

It’s a hard, tough thing to consider. One of those possibilities people justifiably do not want to talk about. This notion that a creature we’re fond of and familiar with — a glorious living being along with all its near and distant relatives — could be entirely removed from the web of existence here on Earth.

Our aversion to the topic likely stems from our own fear of death. Or worse — the notion that the entire human race might eventually be faced with such an end. But extinction is a threat that we’ll see arising more and more as we force the world to rapidly warm. For species of the world now face existential crisis with increasing frequency as atmospheric and ocean temperatures have risen so fast that a growing number of them have simply become unable to cope with the heat.

The Great Barrier Reef of Australia — the world’s largest single structure made up of living organisms — is no exception. For this 1,440 mile long expanse of corals composed of more than 2,900 individual reefs that has existed in one form or another for 600,000 years has suffered a severe blow — one from which it may never be able to recover. O

[backtoiam]

The founder of the Weather Channel broke his harness and ran from the rest of the sled dogs.

Get politics out of climate debate: Opposing view
John Coleman 4:04 p.m. EDT April 22, 2016
Science has taken a back seat at the United Nations.




On this Earth Day 2016, there is a great deal of frenzy about how our Earth is going to become uninhabitable, as the civilized activities of man allegedly trigger unstoppable global warming and climate change.

With the Obama administration set to commit the U.S. to the Paris climate agreement by signing our nation onto the document Friday, it is obvious that science has taken a back seat at the United Nations.

The environmentalists, bureaucrats and politicians who make up the U.N.’s climate panel recruit scientists to research the climate issue. And they place only those who will produce the desired results. Money, politics and ideology have replaced science.

U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres has called for a “centralized transformation” that is “going to make the life of everyone on the planet very different” to combat the alleged global warming threat. How many Americans are looking forward to the U.N. transforming their lives?

Another U.N. official has admitted that the U.N. seeks to “redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” The former head of the U.N. climate panel also recently declared that global warming “is my religion.”

USA TODAY

The heat is on: Our view

When all the scare talk is pushed aside, it is the science that should be the basis for the debate. And the hard cold truth is that the basic theory has failed. Many notable scientists reject man-made global warming fears. And several of them, including a Nobel Prize winner, are in the new Climate Hustle movie. The film is an informative and even humorous new feature length movie that is the ultimate answer to Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth. It will be shown one day only in theaters nationwide on May 2.

As a skeptic of man-made global warming, I love our environment as much as anyone. I share the deepest commitment to protecting our planet for our children and grandchildren. However, I desperately want to get politics out of the climate debate. The Paris climate agreement is all about empowering the U.N. and has nothing to do with the climate.

Weather Channel founder John Coleman has spent more than 60 years as a meteorologist, including seven years as the original weathercaster on ABC’s Good Morning America.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /83349848/

[fruhmenschen]

https://robertscribbler.com/2016/04/22/ ... to-europe/

Record Global Heat — Huge Springtime Arctic Warm-up to Crush Sea Ice, Drive Extreme Jet Stream Dip into Europe
We know now, as soon as the middle of April, that 2016 will be the hottest year on record. That not only will it be the hottest year, but that it will crush any other previous record hot year by a wide margin.

NASA GISS head — Gavin Schmidt — in a recent tweet estimated that 2016 would fall into a range near 1.32 C above the 1880-1899 average that NASA uses for its preindustrial baseline. By comparison, 2015 — which was the most recent hottest year on record after 2014 (three in a row!) — hit 1.07 C above the 1880-1899 average.



(According to NASA, the first three months of 2016 were 1.25 C above the NASA 20th Century baseline and a ridiculous 1.47 C above the 1880 through 1899 preindustrial average. Image source: NASA GISS.)

As a result, 2016 will likely have jumped by about a quarter of a degree Celsius in a single year. If every year from 2016 on warmed up so fast the world would surpass the dreaded 2 C mark by 2019 and rocket to about +22 C above 19th Century averages by 2100. That’s not going to happen. Why?