The Pedophile File

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Postby bks » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:44 pm

We have much more news in the NYTimes source article for that article SLAD posted. Here I'll just treat the part relevant to McQueary's statements:

November 16, 2011
Inquiry Grew Into Concerns of a Cover-Up
By JO BECKER

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — A critical break in the investigation of Jerry Sandusky came via a posting on the Internet: a random mention that a Penn State football coach, years before, might have seen something ugly, but kept silent.

Investigators with the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office had by 2010 already come to the conclusion that Sandusky, the longtime defensive coordinator for Joe Paterno’s Nittany Lions, was a serial molester, according to two people with knowledge of the case. But what had started with a complaint of sexual assault from a high school freshman had grown to include another matter altogether: whether Penn State had acted to cover up Sandusky’s behavior, even crimes.

Working off the brief mention on an Internet forum where people chatted about Penn State athletics, according to the two people with knowledge of the case, investigators narrowed their list of coaches likely to have seen something to Mike McQueary, then an assistant coach and the football program’s recruiting coordinator.

State College is a close-knit community. Word would get around that a Penn State coach had met with investigators. So investigators set up a meeting in an out-of-the-way parking lot, according to those with knowledge of the case.

There, one day a little over a year ago, McQueary unburdened himself, the two people said. He needed little prompting.

He told of a horrific scene he had stumbled upon as a graduate assistant one Friday night in March 2002: a naked boy, about 10, hands pressed against the locker room wall of the Lasch Football Building, being raped by Sandusky. McQueary was explicit and unequivocal, the people said. He had told Paterno, the team’s longtime and widely beloved head coach, about the incident the next day, but he was filled with regret that nothing had happened.


So McQueary told investigators the graphic story before he told the grand jury the same story. This will be seen by some as additional circumstantial evidence that he had included these same descriptions to Curley and Schultz originally. Note as well the vague language used to characterize what McQueary told Paterno.
It's not hard to imagine Paterno stopping McQueary before McQueary could be as descriptive as he may have wished to be, and therefore leaving the "telling" at a level of vagueness conducive to Paterno's desire not to have to do too much about it.

Here's the rest of the article:

“This had been weighing on him for a very long time, and our guys felt he was relieved to get it off his chest,” one law enforcement official said. “When he had the opportunity to make it right, he told the truth.”

Sandusky, in his first public statement this week, acknowledged that he “horsed around” with boys in the shower but insisted there was no sexual intent.

But for investigators, the identification of McQueary, and the account he would ultimately tell under oath, was pivotal. In the coming months, investigators uncovered other alarming facts.

Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

And in 2002, after McQueary had reported what he had seen to the university’s senior officials, those officials not only never told the police, but they also never even informed the university’s top lawyer. That lawyer, Wendell Courtney, said in an interview this week that he would have been duty bound to report to law enforcement officials any allegations of inappropriate conduct toward children by Sandusky.

Most disturbingly, investigators continued to identify possible victims — young men who had been boys when Sandusky befriended them through his foundation for troubled youngsters.

Those young men were not eager to tell their stories, the two people with knowledge of the case said. The young men were not convinced that the attorney general’s office had the will to go after a case that could rewrite the storied history of the university’s football program. And they asked: If the case went forward, who would believe them over a revered figure like Jerry Sandusky?

It was a question investigators had asked themselves. But with McQueary, they had what they regarded as an impartial witness, and one from within the ranks of Penn State itself.

Accusation, but No Charge

Penn State was shaken by the Nov. 5 arrest of Sandusky, the indictment of two university officials on charges that they had perjured themselves and failed to report Sandusky’s alleged crimes, and the ouster of both Paterno and the university’s president, Graham B. Spanier.

But back in 2009, when the case first landed in the office of the attorney general, no one knew where it would lead. The mother of a Clinton County, Pa., freshman called the local high school to report that her son had been sexually assaulted by Sandusky. Sandusky was barred from the school, where he had served as a volunteer coach, and the matter was reported to the authorities.

The district attorney in Centre County, where Sandusky was alleged to have molested the boy, passed the case on to the attorney general. The district attorney, Michael Madeira, said Wednesday that his wife’s biological brother had been adopted by Sandusky years before.

The Clinton County teenager — Victim 1, as he would become known in the grand jury report made public this month — alleged that he first met Sandusky through the Second Mile when he was 11 or 12. Sandusky had indecently fondled him and performed oral sex on him, the boy said.

But prosecutors, lacking physical evidence of an assault, worried about the fortunes of a case that might end up with little more than competing claims — by the boy and by Sandusky.

“You can charge it, but getting a conviction is going to be difficult,” said one person with direct knowledge of the deliberations among prosecutors. “And getting a conviction in State College against someone of Jerry Sandusky’s stature is going to be 10 times more difficult.”

To make a charge stick, they concluded, they needed to explore whether one boy’s claims were merely one among others, perhaps many.

Looking in Old Files

The answer to their question, it turned out, lay in a voluminous police report sitting for a dozen years in the old case files of the Penn State University Police. Investigators for the attorney general’s office had heard rumors that Sandusky had come to the attention of law enforcement officials sometime in the past, but they were not sure when or where.

The investigators, according to those with knowledge of the case, began calling around to nearby police departments; they received a hit when they reached the campus police.

In 1998, an 11-year-old boy, now known as Victim 6, had come home with wet hair and told his mother he had showered with Sandusky at Penn State’s athletic complex. She immediately reported it to the university police, the grand jury report said.

As investigators leafed through the old report — it ran close to 100 pages — they came to believe that the campus police officers had truly wanted to make a case against Sandusky, according to people with knowledge of the current investigation. The officers had gone so far as to set up a sting operation in which the boy’s mother called the coach, and, with the police listening in, confronted Sandusky.

According to the grand jury report, he admitted to showering with her son and another boy, said he did not think that his private parts had touched her son, but acknowledged that what he did was wrong. “I wish I were dead,” he said, according to the grand jury’s findings.

Ultimately, the district attorney decided against taking the case to trial, a decision that, years later, the attorney general’s investigators could well understand. According to people with knowledge of the current Sandusky case, the district attorney’s decision in 1998 was a close call, even with the evidence the campus police had.

But what most struck the investigators, according to people with knowledge of the current case, was that the university itself seemed to have done nothing in the wake of the police investigation. Whether that was because other senior officials at Penn State did not know of the investigation or because they knew of it, but chose to do nothing, is a central question for investigators today.

Prosecutors have said that Gary Schultz, the university official charged with overseeing the campus police, said under oath that he recalled being aware of some kind of incident involving Sandusky and a boy showering together, and the subsequent investigation.

Others, including the university president, said they were not told about it.

Courtney, who served as Penn State’s general counsel at the time and whose job it was to advise and protect the university in such situations, said in an interview this week that while he might have been given a customary heads-up that Sandusky, a university employee, was under investigation, he was never given any details or even general information about its nature.

Paterno, through his son Scott, also said he did not know of the 1998 sex crime investigation of Sandusky, who was then his most prominent and accomplished assistant.

Investigators over the last week have made clear that they have serious doubts about whether so few people in senior positions of responsibility came to know of the 1998 investigation.

“You have to understand those statements in context — there is nothing that happens at State College that Joe Paterno doesn’t know, or that Graham Spanier doesn’t know,” one person involved in the investigation said. “Whether or not a criminal case went forward, there were ample grounds for an administrative inquiry into this matter. I have no evidence that was ever done. And if indeed that report was never passed up, it makes you wonder why not.”

A Profile Emerges

With the discovery of the 1998 report, the investigation took on a greater sense of urgency, those involved in the case said. Investigators now had evidence that Sandusky might have molested at least two boys.

According to people involved in the case, Sandusky was never placed under extensive surveillance. Instead, they began poring over the records of Sandusky’s charity, the Second Mile, and interviewing people who had been through the program.

As additional suspected victims were located, a profile began to emerge, according to people with knowledge of the investigation. Sandusky engaged in what experts on child predators call “grooming” behavior, law enforcement officials asserted this month, making his first approach when children were 8 to 12 years old. He tended to choose white boys from homes where there was no father or some difficulty in the family, investigators said, and he drew them in with trips to games and expensive gifts like computers.

Touching progressed incrementally, investigators said. “Lots of them reported that he’d first put his hand on their thigh while driving,” one person involved in the inquiry recalled. The shower was where he most often initiated more overtly sexual behavior. The testimony of one victim who said he was forced to put his hand on Sandusky’s erection when he was 8 to 10 years old particularly outraged investigators. “The poor kid was too young to even understand what an erection was,” one said.

When first approached about testifying before the grand jury, many did not want to get involved, the people involved in the case said. If Sandusky was indicted and the case went to trial, their names and what had happened would become public.

But prosecutors were able to compel their testimony with grand jury subpoenas, and one boy led to another.

Meanwhile, investigators served numerous subpoenas on the Second Mile, according to people with knowledge of the inquiry. Not only did they want the names of children who had been through the program, they also demanded all of Sandusky’s travel and expense records.

Much of the older paperwork was stored at an off-site records facility. The travel and expense records, for instance, had been sent over several years earlier. But select members of the charity’s board of directors were alarmed to learn recently that when the records facility went to retrieve them, some of those records — from about 2000 to 2003 — were missing.

The attorney general’s office was notified of the missing files, people with knowledge of the case said. Subsequently, the foundation located apparently misfiled records from one of the years, but the rest seem to have disappeared.

Lynne M. Abraham, a lawyer for Second Mile, did not return a call requesting comment. A spokesman for the attorney general declined to comment, citing the continuing grand jury investigation.

“It could be that they are just lost, but under the circumstances it is suspicious,” one law enforcement official involved in the case said of the missing files.

Some investigators said they were convinced that the idea that Sandusky had an inappropriate interest in, and relationships with, young boys was a fairly widely held suspicion around and even outside Penn State’s football program over the years.

“This was not the secret that they are trying to make out now,” one person involved in the inquiry said. “I know there were a number of college coaches that had heard the rumors. If all these people knew about it, how could Sandusky’s superiors not know?”

In fact, according to McQueary, at least a few did.

McQueary’s Revelations

When McQueary met with investigators last year, he immediately told them that he had witnessed Sandusky raping the boy in the showers on a Friday night in 2002 and then had gone home and talked to his father about what he should do. Together, they decided he needed to tell Paterno. Before becoming a graduate assistant, McQueary had played for Paterno. The coach was a mentor, and a friend.

Still, for years, McQueary questioned why nothing more was done. Under the law, McQueary was obligated only to tell a superior at the university. It is the duty of university administrators to inform the police. Besides, as one investigator put it, “on that campus, telling Joe Paterno is like telling God.”

Paterno, by his own account to the grand jury, met with Tim Curley, the university’s athletic director the next day and told him of McQueary’s account, saying the assistant had seen Sandusky “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”

McQueary, who by then had been elevated from graduate assistant to an assistant coach and recruiting coordinator, laid out for investigators what happened next. It took a week and half, a time lapse that investigators find deeply troubling, for Curley and Schultz to call him to a meeting. McQueary told investigators, and later the grand jury, that he had explained to the two men in graphic detail what he had witnessed.

Curley and Schultz gave different accounts to the grand jury of what transpired in that meeting. Curley said McQueary saw “inappropriate conduct” that he termed “horsing around” between Sandusky and the child, and Schultz said he had “the impression that Sandusky might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy’s genitals while wrestling.”

In either event, no one notified the police. And once again, before deciding what to do, no one consulted the university’s lawyer, according to Courtney, Penn State’s general counsel. Courtney was called in to advise Second Mile’s board of directors in 2009 after Sandusky informed it of the Clinton County freshman’s accusations, but Courtney said that was the first he had heard of Sandusky’s alleged inappropriate behavior.

But other than that, “at no time, whether in 1998 or in 2002 or any other point in time, was I made aware or did I have knowledge of Jerry Sandusky engaging in sexual misconduct with young children,” Courtney said. “Had I had any idea that there was even remotely improper conduct with children on any day since the beginning of time, nothing in the world would have kept me from being absolutely certain that it was reported to the police immediately. That is my duty.”

Instead, Curley and Schultz reported back to McQueary that they had decided to take away Sandusky’s keys to the locker room, bar him from bringing children to the football building and report the incident to Second Mile, according to the grand jury’s findings. Spanier, the university president, testified that he approved the plan, but that he had never been told Sandusky’s misconduct was sexual in nature.

A spokeswoman for the lawyers for Curley and Schultz said it would be “inappropriate for the defense to comment on the substance of the grand jury report.”

Spanier did not return calls requesting comment.

Courtney, for his part, said he was “as horrified and appalled and sickened and disgusted as everyone else was” when he read the grand jury report and realized the extent of the crimes of which Sandusky was accused.

Pete Thamel and Mark Viera contributed reporting.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby bks » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:48 pm

Holy shit. What a fucking small-town clusterfuck.

But back in 2009, when the case first landed in the office of the attorney general, no one knew where it would lead. The mother of a Clinton County, Pa., freshman called the local high school to report that her son had been sexually assaulted by Sandusky. Sandusky was barred from the school, where he had served as a volunteer coach, and the matter was reported to the authorities.

The district attorney in Centre County, where Sandusky was alleged to have molested the boy, passed the case on to the attorney general. The district attorney, Michael Madeira, said Wednesday that his wife’s biological brother had been adopted by Sandusky years before.


So this was the undisclosed conflict of interest of a couple of days ago. Just wow.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:54 pm

has anyone looked at McQueary's employment?
was he hired and kept on to keep him silent or was it a legit hiring? :shrug:
i'm kinda surprised nobody has asked this?
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:58 pm

and from this mornings news:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/11/17/1649984/school-crimes-law-shifted.html

N.C. shifts school crimes law

BY CRAIG JARVIS The News and Observer
A brief bill that sailed through the General Assembly this year without much
attention looks a little more significant in the wake of the child-molesting
scandal at Penn State, where officials are accused of failing to report the
suspected crimes to law enforcement authorities.

SB394, with only one vote in opposition and signed into law by the governor in
June, decriminalized school principals' failure to report specific crimes,
including sex offenses.

Some child-welfare advocates are alarmed, and they can point to several recent
instances in which school administrators in North Carolina have been accused of
not reporting suspected sexual abuse of children.
But its supporters say the new law will encourage principals to report more
legitimately serious crimes without having to worry about being prosecuted
themselves for not passing along every rumored instance of misbehavior. The
intention is to shift more responsibility onto school principals but give them
the leeway to determine what should be reported.
"No principal is relieved of that duty in any way, shape or form," the bill's
author, Sen. Buck Newton, a Republican representing Wilson and Nash counties,
said Wednesday.
The legislation expands the standard by which a principal must report a
suspected crime from when he or she has "personal knowledge" that it occurred to
include "reasonable belief" that it occurred. It also eliminates failing to
report as a class 3 misdemeanor, which is the lowest offense on the books.
Instead, the new law explicitly states that a principal who doesn't report a
crime could be fired or demoted.
While the reasonable belief standard puts more responsibility on principals to
act on a crime even if they don't have firsthand knowledge that it occurred, it
also gives them breathing room to find out if it's worth reporting.
Last year some administrators were growing concerned that they risked criminal
prosecution for not reporting common schoolyard interactions that could be
considered crimes, said Larry Price, former superintendent of Wilson County
schools and now executive director of the N.C. Association of School
Administrators.
Price said principals were worried that overzealous police or prosecutors could
go after them on overblown charges. Also, last summer the state Board of
Education adopted a new policy requiring school administrators to immediately
report all criminal allegations to law enforcement.
"On the surface it sounds like you should, but technically, a first-grader
stealing a pencil from a neighbor is a crime. Someone stealing an ice cream
sandwich. It seemed to be ridiculous," Price said.
Why law was rewritten
Price, who brought the problem to Newton's attention, said rewriting the law
made sense.
"We were trying to bring some sanity to this," Price said. "No one in education
wants to do what happened in Pennsylvania. No way. At the same time, folks
running around afraid they'll get arrested because they didn't report something
as early as a sheriff or district attorney thinks they should is a little
aggressive."
Ann Majestic, attorney for school boards in Wake, Durham, Alamance and Moore
counties, says school officials are well aware of both the state law requiring
everyone to report suspected child abuse by caregivers, and the licensing law
that requires principals, assistant superintendents and superintendents to
report to the state Department of Public Instruction sex abuse of students.
"I know for the administrators we worked with over the years this is something
you refer to law enforcement when you have any reason to suspect," Majestic
said.
Eddie Caldwell Jr., who heads the N.C. Sheriff's Association, says he thinks the
law will encourage principals to report offenses that they might have otherwise
been reluctant to in order to keep crime statistics down. He acknowledges the
law relies on principals' judgment.
"Do you go check and see if Johnny has a knife in his pocket or do you call the
police first?" Caldwell said. "What's reasonable is going to depend upon the
nature of the offense. One concern law enforcement has is on those offenses
where physical safety is an issue. Then school officials need to report it
immediately."
But giving that leeway to principals makes some people uneasy. Marjorie
Menestries, executive director of the Raleigh-based abuse-prevention group
SAFEchild of NC, didn't know about the law and is concerned.
"I think law enforcement needs to be the investigator, not the principals," she
said. "Law enforcement is trained in that."
She was also dismayed to find it no longer a crime.
"I think failing to report criminal behavior, especially involving child abuse,
needs to be considered a crime for which the person would be held accountable,
regardless of who he or she is," Menestries said.
Cathy Purvis, executive director of Child Advocacy Centers of NC, based in High
Point, didn't know about the law, either. But she sees the new law as a positive
change. She thinks the threat of being fired is a greater deterrent than being
charged with the lowest form of misdemeanor.
There have been recent instances of school officials not reporting suspected
sexual abuse, including at schools in Forsyth and Davie counties. In Randolph
County, an elementary school principal was charged with failing to report an
incident involving a teacher's aide. But the district attorney there dropped the
charge after the General Assembly rewrote the law. That principal took a leave
of absence and is no longer employed by the school district.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby bks » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:10 pm

Also, a "sort-of" on the record denial by Paterno that he knew about the 1998 investigation:

Paterno, through his son Scott, also said he did not know of the 1998 sex crime investigation of Sandusky, who was then his most prominent and accomplished assistant.

Investigators over the last week have made clear that they have serious doubts about whether so few people in senior positions of responsibility came to know of the 1998 investigation.

“You have to understand those statements in context — there is nothing that happens at State College that Joe Paterno doesn’t know, or that Graham Spanier doesn’t know,” one person involved in the investigation said. “Whether or not a criminal case went forward, there were ample grounds for an administrative inquiry into this matter. I have no evidence that was ever done. And if indeed that report was never passed up, it makes you wonder why not.”


Paterno cannot seriously expect that people are going to believe he was not informed by someone that he might have a child rapist on his staff, particularly when the guy was ticketed for Paterno's job at the time. Sandusky's retiring in 1999 - at age 55, when the coach he hoped to replace was above 70, and after Sandusky had turned down other head coaching jobs at big schools like Maryland (with the pay raise that would almost certainly entail) - only makes sense in the context of the 1998 report becoming known to decision-makers. At least, there's no other plausible explanation that's been advanced, other than his wanting to focus more time on being a pedofile.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Avalon » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:18 pm

Some talk has been that many of Sandusky's victims were black, but this NYT article says he tended to choose white boys.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby compared2what? » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:31 pm

bks wrote:
compared2what? wrote:

It's a very small but neverthless very diverse world that we here in the realm of thought are inhabiting, isn't it?

I just love that about it, sometimes
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I do to. :) It goes without saying but I'll say it: I love the sense-making that happens here; on subjects like this it's among the best anywhere short of being on the inside. I'm always grateful for it. I just wish there was less occasion for it :(

As for Paterno:

If Paterno deserves to be arrested, let's have him arrested by all means. But there are at least a few potentially crucial differences between Paterno's positioning in all of this and that of Schultz and Curley:

1. Curley is Paterno's superior (as silly as that sounds, since Paterno practically hired the guy). Curley is the Director of Athletics, and therefore it could be argued that he has a responsibility to report that no underling of his has, since the departmental buck stops with him. Thus his telling to Spanier what he learned was insufficient;. I have no idea if this is in fact the basis for the "failure to report" charge against him (more on this below). i'm oinclined to think that any provision allowing for Curley to be charged with failure to report would work for charging Paterno as well. However:


But in reality, Paterno had much more power than Curley. And possibly more power than anyone, including Spanier.

2. There is a significant difference between what the grand jury says McQueary reported to Paterno and what McQueary reported to Curley and Schultz. It is potentially a huge difference. The GJ is specific is saying that Mcqueary told C&S that McQueary witnessned "Sandusky having anal sex with a boy". Nowhere does it say that McQueary told this to Paterno, only that he told Paterno he witnessed "fondling or something of a sexual nature".

Of course both are problematic and should be reported immediately. But saying the former rather than the latter certainly eliminates any and doubt that something should immediately be done (what i mean is: some would argue that McQueary's description of events to Paterno was sufficiently vague not to absolutely necessitate immediate action, given he could be interpreting things erroneously and blah blah blah (I don't agree with this position, but see how it could be made). This would further assume Paterno had never heard something like this about Sandusky before, which as you rightly point out is almost certainly false.


I still wasn't putting it plainly enough. Again, my apologies. Let me try again:

I find it very notable that the GJ does not specify what McQueary told Paterno. And that includes not specifying whether or not he told Paterno he witnessed "fondling or something of a sexual nature," btw. Paterno told that to Curley, per the GJ. But all they report about what McQ told Paterno was that it was "what he had seen."

The reason I find that very notable is that I find it very implausible that McQueary did not tell Paterno (his former coach, longtime mentor and all-around figure of trust and respect exactly what he saw.

I read the GJ presentment as indrectly confirming that hypothesis in a number of ways, primarily by not getting specific about what McQueary told Paterno.

I regard that as confirmation because the only reasonable explanation for the absence of more detailed information on this point in the GJ presentment is that the prosecution went out of its way to keep the grand jury from hearing it, as part of a tacit deal with McQueary (and possibly Paterno).

To me, that makes perfect sense, because I would expect:

(a) McQueary to have both a personal and professional interest in protecting Paterno; and

(b) Prosecutors to have some reservations about their chances of convicting one of the most revered and beloved men in the Commonwealth on the charges in question.

Furthermore, I am certain to the point of no reasonable doubt that if McQueary had testified that he told Paterno he saw Sandusky raping a child, the GJ would have recommended charging him in the presentment, due to that being their legal obligation, just as it would be the legal obligation of the DA's office, IF THEY OFFICIALLY ADMITTED TO KNOWING IT.

In short: I reason that they saw to it that there was no record of their official cognizance on the issue. Not only would there be no advantage to suppressing that now if it was going to come out later anyway, it would be highly disadvantageous, insofar as it would totally fuck up their chances of convicting Curley and Schultz if it came out in discovery that they'd given Paterno a pass for the same crimes.

ERGO: THE ABSENCE OF SPECIFIC INFO IS THE UPSHOT OF A STRATEGIC, INTENTIONAL COLLABORATION AMONG THE PROSECUTORS AND THEIR COOPERATING WITNESSES.

I'm so sorry that I can't say that simply. I wish that I could.


2. While Paterno failed to report just as Curley and Schultz failed to report, I haven't heard anyone with knowledge of the case say that the "failure to report" charge against Curley and Schultz is likely to stick. It's not at all clear that they had a legal obligation to report, and I would be willing to bet it doesn't stand up. The perjury charge is another matter. They have them dead to rights on that it seems [more on this below].

Should Paterno have been charged, then, with failure to report? For the reasons stated I can't say for sure, but in a fair world, yes, he should have if Curley was .(As a practical matter it's easy to see why he wasn't, though. If you charge Paterno with something that doesn't stick, any DA with political aspirations will understand that she would always have that on her record. Thus any would be very, very careful before doing something like that)

3. Curley and Schultz are charged with perjury because of their performance before the grand jury. Apparently, Paterno's performance did not earn him the same suspicion. The fact that Curley and Schultz met with McQueary directly means they were therefore not dependent on Paterno's characterization of events. Of course Paterno could have still lied to the grand jury about the specifics of what McQueary told him, but apparently they didn't think he did. Unless we have some reason for believing the GJ wanted to protect Paterno? All ears.


I doubt the way they performed before the grand jury was more than a minor factor, except in that the witnesses who were being grilled about the dubious specifics of their inadequate cover stories would naturally perform less well than the witness who was merely required to testify that one day Mike McQueary came over and told him what he'd seen, after which -- being (of course) very upset -- said witness immediately informed his superiors that "something of a sexual nature" was said to have occurred between Sandusky and a minor in the shower.

Please note that "something of a sexual nature" is sufficiently open to interpretation that it begs the question of whether the mandatory reporting requirement was applicable.

Because I find that very notable, personally.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:36 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/donald-fitzpatrick-red-sox-sex-scandal_n_1095118.html


Donald Fitzpatrick Sex Scandal: Former Boston Red Sox Clubhouse
Manager Preyed On Boys Decades Ago

Editor's Note: This story contains graphic
subject matter that may be upsetting to some readers.

Long before revelations that former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky had
allegedly sexually abused a number of at-risk youth, another high-profile
predator used the cover of athletics to molest young boys.
Between 1971 and 1991, Donald Fitzpatrick, a long-time Red Sox clubhouse
manager, systematically molested and abused nearly a dozen African-American boys
in their hometown of Winter Haven, Florida,
where the baseball team held their Spring training.

"He grabbed me and told me to take my clothes off," Leeronnie Ogletree, who said
Fitzpatrick lured him into years of molestation when he was just 10, told
thepostgame.com. "I'll never forget him putting his mouth on my penis. I don't
mind telling it now because I'm over it. But that stands out. And I'll never
forget it."

It took decades for the truth to come out about Fitzpatrick, who is white, and
his criminal desire for young black boys. In 2003 the Boston Red Sox settled a
$3.15 million federal lawsuit brought against them
by Ogletree and seven other
men from Winter Haven who said Fitzpatrick repeatedly molested them as boys.
Benjamin Crump, the lawyer who handled Ogletree’s case against Fitzpatrick and
the Boston Red Sox, said the similarities between the Penn State and Red Sox
scandals are startlingly similar
.
There were cover-ups, denials and the enabling
of pedophiles to use the power of their institutions to prey on the weak, in the
Red Sox case, "poor black boys," he said. The kinds of youth often considered
society's "throwaways."
"You have these sports institutions; you have all these people of authority; you
have all this public support for these institutions and hear talk about what
great institutions they are, but then when you ask them to do the right thing
and have compassion for these young people, the institutions deny, deny, deny,"
said Crump, of Parks & Crump. "They sweep it under the rug and they look the
other way."
According to reports, former Red Sox players such as Jim Rice and Sammy Stewart
got wind of Fitzpatrick's deeds and would warn kids in the clubhouse to avoid
him. In 1971, one of Fitzpatrick's victims came forward to the team, and in a
manner similar to Penn State's handling of the Sandusky allegations, the team
did not alert authorities or fire Fitzpatrick.
But supporters for Ogletree and the other men who settled in the case, who have
become known as the Winter Haven seven, wonder how race and class might have
played in the team's inaction once they got a whiff of what Fitzpatrick might
have been up to.
"These kids came from impoverished backgrounds and many times, no father.
Fitzpatrick used that to his advantage and preyed on these kids that were poor,"
Crump said. "The one thing that I do think is not similar to the Penn State
situation is that with the Boston Red Sox case, they had 11 kids and they were
all black, almost as if they wouldn't let this happen to little white boys."

It wasn't until 1991, two decades later, that wheels of justice began to turn.
Howard Bryant of ESPN.com, wrote that in '91, a young aide whom Fitzpatrick was
suspected of recruiting showed up at a nationally televised Red Sox game with a
sign that read "Don Fitzpatrick sexually assaulted me." The Red Sox paid out a
$100,000 settlement, Bryant wrote. The $3.5 million settlement came years later.


The seven men who settled with the team and Fitzpatrick include Myron Birdsong,
Terrance D. Birdsong, Walter Covington III, Eric Frazier Jr., Willie Earl
Hollis, James A. Jackson and Ogletree.
In a recent story published on the website thepostgame.com, Ogletree recounted
those days of his stolen youth. He remembers hearing the sounds of pitched
baseballs smacking into gloves and the sounds of balls cracking off of bats. And
eventually being lured in by Fitzpatrick.
"If you're a kid, you fall in love with the game of baseball," Ogletree said.
"There's one-in-a-million chance of meeting a professional ballplayer, let alone
working with them. If kids like something, and if you say you're going to take
that away, they'll do anything to keep what's good to them. I know what happened
to me at 10 years old."
"I was a good kid," Ogletree said. "I was raised right. The sentence I really
got was a life sentence because of what I went through with the Red Sox."
Sometimes, Ogletree said, "I'm not sure who I am."
Crump, who has kept in touch with Ogletree's family, said that Ogletree and many
of the others victimized by Fitzpatrick have never shaken the trauma of their
assaults. Some have turned to drugs, he said. Others, like Ogletree, have
battled with addiction and have had numerous stints in jail.
"It's one of those situations where once you steal a kid's innocence, they never
ever get it back. And the question is, are they ever really going to be normal
when something like that happens so traumatically at such an early age?" Crump
said. "Their assaults color their feelings on mostly every issue in their lives,
that's what we were dealing with. These guys never got right after that.”
In 2002 Fitzpatrick accepted a plea deal. He would serve no jail time, get a
10-year suspended sentence and 15 years of probation
, according to reports.
Ogletree, who has battled the trauma brought on by the boyhood assaults, was in
a mental institution when the multimillion dollar settlement was reached
. He
called Fitzpatrick's deal a "sweetheart deal."
But he has vowed never to let people forget what Fitzpatrick and others like him
have stolen from innocent, vulnerable young people.
"I need to tell people my story," he said.
Below is statement reportedly released by the Boston Red Sox and reprinted on
thepostgame.com:
Mr. Fitzpatrick served as the team's clubhouse manager from the 1960s until
1991, and the actions you have inquired about occurred between 1971 and 1991.
When the team, then under a previous ownership group, became aware of the
allegations against Mr. Fitzpatrick in 1991, he was promptly relieved of his
duties. Civil litigation was filed in 2001 by victims of Mr. Fitzpatrick for
actions that had occurred more than 20 years earlier. The team, which was
acquired by the current ownership group after the lawsuit was filed, reached a
settlement in 2002. Mr. Fitzpatrick has since passed away. The Red Sox have
always viewed the actions of Mr. Fitzpatrick to be abhorrent.


so a victim came forward to the team in 1971, but the team only became aware of the problem in 1991, when someone held up a sign at a nationally televised game.
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Postby compared2what? » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:45 pm

Last post:

WRT that Times story --

There's some stuff in it that supports what I conjecture to be the reason Sandusky went on TV, although I'm just conjecturing in the dark here. But fwiw:

I think he was trying to send a message to any victims out there whose silence he has reason to think is/was due to their belief that nobody would take the word of some gay, fatherless potsmoking disadvantaged gold-digging punk kid (or whatever) over that of Jerry Sandusky, Man of Renown and Helper of Thousands of Kids.

And he would have a reason to think that there were some if he was the one who'd persuaded them to believe in that scenario, obviously.

Hail Mary pass, imo. But it also kinda shines a light on how insanely aggressive a competitor it's probably natural for Sandusky to be. Conjecturally speaking.
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Postby bks » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:57 pm

c2w?, you've now put things pretty close to as clearly as they can be put, imo. Brilliantly laid out.

I have some quibbles, and I've re-read the key section of the presentment and realized something about its structure that I want to share, but later, since I gotta run. Be back late this evening.
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Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:43 pm

sorry if this has already been posted but McQueary and sandusky seem to go back a long way.
hard for me to imagine he didn't know exactly what was going on. my guess he was also a child victim .

http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/Is-whistleblower-status-saving-McQuearys?blockID=592472&feedID=704

from the above article:

McQueary has not spoken to the press since the story broke, though his father,
John, says he very much would like to. In fact, John McQueary told reporters
that he would very much like to discuss his and his son’s role in the scandal,
but have been advised not to.

That statement led some to speculate that McQueary could be a protected witness.

McQueary was a quarterback for Paterno from 1994 to 1997. He was the starter for
the ’97 team that went 9-3 and won the Citrus Bowl and set a school record by
throwing for 360 yards in his first game as a starter. He also was the
quarterback at State College High School and teammates with Jon Sandusky, the
son of Jerry Sandusky.
Known as a vocal coach and player, McQueary tried out for
the Oakland Raiders after leaving Penn State. He also spent a season playing for
the Scottish Claymores in NFL Europe. In 2000, McQueary returned to Penn State
as a graduate assistant.
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Postby wallflower » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:53 pm

Thanks to everyone posting about this Penn State case. I tend to avoid news stories about sexual violence. I feel a bit guilty about my avoidance because I want less violence and my avoidance seems uncomfortably close to denial. So much about this is unthinkable, but the Second Mile Foundation part is particularly hard to fathom. Teachers in general have explicitly brought to mind sexual abuse as part of their professionalism, same too really of all professionals dealing with children. It's inexplicable that so many professionals who had brought child abuse into consciousness could have let things pass about Sandusky. As hard as it is to pay attention to the story, it feels important to do just in the hopes that I might not be blind and dumb to evidence of abuse should I encounter it.
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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 am

Penn State's Patriarchal Pastimes

November 18, 2011

By Katha Pollitt
Source: The Nation



Cancel the season. Fire everybody involved in the child abuse scandal. That is the only way Penn State can make it clear that raping children and looking the other way or even covering it up matters more than having a winning football team. It is beyond understanding that Mike McQueary, who witnessed with his own eyes the anal rape of a 10-year-old by former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, thought the matter was closed when he told his superiors (and, he now says, campus police) about it, and that head coach Joe Paterno—the sainted JoePa—took virtually no action, and life just went on for years while more kids were abused. What is this, the Catholic Church? Or maybe it isn’t beyond understanding. Maybe most people would do their best to rationalize evil behavior, to pass the buck and forget about it, if making a stink about it would harm their career. History isn’t too encouraging on that score. Still. Cancel the season. Fire everybody. Start again.

Or maybe don’t start again. Maybe cancel college football too. In no other country’s university system, after all, does sports play anything like the central role it does in American academic life. Men do not go to Oxford to play cricket; the Sorbonne does not field a nationally celebrated soccer team. Even in the most sports-mad countries, sports is sports and education is education. That’s a better system.

College sports distorts academic life in many ways, beginning with admissions. Recruited athletes’ scholarships soak up almost a fifth of places at most elite colleges, and athletic scholarships raise costs for everyone else. People defend these programs as offering hope to black and low-income students, especially boys, who otherwise couldn’t go to college at all. But what about their high school classmates who do better in school and can’t afford higher education either? Where are our priorities? Right now, we are telling the kids at the bottom that the way out is not to study and take college preparatory classes but to work on their jump shot and their blocking. If there was no scholarship incentive for those skills, the kids might not blow off their classes in favor of endless hours in the gym. Instead of the false hope of winning fame and wealth by turning pro after college—a brass ring grasped by only 1.5 percent of seniors who play NCAA football and basketball—they might focus their ambition on careers that could lift them out of poverty for life.

Moreover, sports scholarships don’t just go to poor kids. They also go to wealthy suburban kids who play golf, squash, lacrosse, tennis and other games favored by the elite. Those kids not only get a break on tuition; they get indulgence for mediocre grades and low SAT scores. Basically, colleges are saying to kids lucky enough to go to excellent resource-rich high schools, Don’t worry about that missed chemistry lab, those 200 pages still to go inOne Hundred Years of Solitude, those French irregular verbs—bring us your backhand and your butterfly stroke.

Should college students play sports? Sure, for fun. Not to make money for their schools, massage the egos of donors and alumni, raise up false idols like Joe Paterno—and deprive themselves of a real education in the process. According to the NCAA, to be a top college football player takes at least forty-three hours a week. There is just no way that even a well-prepared, devoted student can handle a full load of courses around the edges of such a brutal and exhausting schedule. Instead, they’re hauled through dumbed-down courses in gut majors like “interdisciplinary studies” and “social science” by an army of tutors and professors who know the drill: we need this kid, so he’s got to pass. One of my heroines, Jan Kemp, lost her job teaching English at the University of Georgia when she went public with the pressures that were put on her to pass the athletes in her classes. Even with all that help, the graduation rate of Division I athletes, 65 percent, is nothing to cheer about.

Back to Penn State. Next to the molesting and the inaction, was anything more disturbing than the student riot in defense of it? If those thousands of kids had been Occupiers, don’t tell me they could have overturned a news van and knocked down lampposts with relative impunity. But sports is different. Impunity is its middle name—for players, coaches and apparently fans as well. Sports is embedded in the rich, loamy craziness of American popular morality, right down in there with God, the flag, the military and the family. Well, not all sports—not tennis or hockey or gymnastics or even basketball (too ghetto). Football.

And that brings us to the patriarchal aspect of the Penn State scandal. I know it’s predictable and boring, but come on, people! There really is a message here about masculine privilege: the deification of a powerful old man who can do no wrong, an all-male hierarchy protecting itself (hello, pedophile priests), a culture of entitlement and a truly astonishing lack of concern about sexual violence. This last is old news, unfortunately: sexual assaults by athletes are regularly covered up or lightly punished by administrations, even in high school, and society really doesn’t care all that much. A federal appeals court declared that a Texas cheerleader could be kicked off the squad (and made to contribute to the school’s legal costs) for refusing to cheer her rapist when he took the field—and he’d pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault too, so why was he even still playing? According to USA Today, an athlete accused of a sex crime has a very good chance of getting away with it. If Sandusky had abused little girls, let alone teenage or adult women, would he be in trouble today? Or would we say, like the neighbors of an 11-year-old gang-raped in Cleveland, Texas, that she was asking for it?

Cancel the season. Fire everybody. Get real about rape. Grow up.



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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:09 am

Another College Coach Is Accused of Sexually Abusing Young Boys
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Dashiell Bennett 6:09 AM ET

Bernie Fine, a long-time assistant basketball coach at Syracuse University, has been accused by two former ball boys of sexual molestation, but Fine's boss says the accusers are lying.

The two men, now adults, say the abuse took place from the late 1970s into the early 1990s, but the accusations were not made public until 2003. Both men were interviewed by ESPN's Outside The Lines, on Thursday with one saying he was inspired to come forward after seeing news coverage of the Penn State scandal. Fine's boss, Hall-of-Fame head coach Jim Boeheim, says the two men are liars who saw the coverage Penn State scandal and are just looking for money.

The first alleged victim, Bobby Davis, contacted Syracuse about the abuse in 2005 and a university spokesperson says that they did a full investigation and found no evidence to corroborate his story. According to the school, Davis gave them the names of four people who could support his claim and they all denied having any knowledge of the abuse. ESPN says that they also interviewed Davis in 2003, but could also not confirm any of his story and decided not to run it. Davis says that he contacted police at that same time, but they told him that the statute of limitations had run out and they would need evidence of current abuse to launch an investigation. Davis was a ball boy for the basketball team for six years in the 1980s.

Then ESPN was contacted this week by Mike Lang, another former ball boy who happens to be Davis' stepbrother. Lang says he was molested by Fine when he was in fifth or sixth grade. As a result, Syracuse City Police have reopened the investigation and the university has placed Fine — who has been an assistant to Jim Boeheim for 35 years — on administrative leave.

Boeheim, who has been at Syracuse since he was a grad assistant in 1969, was adamant in his denial of the accusations, including Davis' claim that Boeheim saw him in Fine's hotel room when the team was on the road.

"I know this kid, but I never saw him in any rooms or anything. It is a bunch of a thousand lies that he has told. You don't think it is a little funny that his cousin (relative) is coming forward? ... there is only one side to this story. He is lying."

Obviously, this case has come to light because of the allegations against former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky. Unlike Penn State, however, it appears that the school and police did do a proper investigation before dismissing the claims. Even if the story turns out to be true, there's no appearance (at this point) of an orchestrated cover up.

However, if it eventually turns out that there was any wrongdoing, then Boeheim will surely face far greater criticism for his vigorous defense of his assistant. He's basically the Joe Paterno of upstate New York, but even Paterno never called any of the accusers a liar.

This latest story also has us wondering if this could be the first of many more abuse allegations — both true and untrue — to come out of a major college sports program as a direct result of the Penn State scandal. Much like the abuse claims within the Catholic Church, once one person comes forward, it can have a snowball effect that leads to people in similar situations all across the country to finally speak up. No matter what happens at Syracuse, the Sandusky scandal may go further than anyone even expected.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:05 am

Jerry Sandusky's Adopted Son Attempted Suicide in 1995

By Cavan Sieczkowski | November 17, 2011 11:02 AM EST

The Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal continues to metastasize each day, as more sinister details emerge from the years between 1998 and 2008.

The earliest report of possible abuse could go back even earlier than 1998 to 1995. This case roots back to a boy named Matt.


Jerry Sandusky adopted six children. Matt, one of these six children, is said to have attempted suicide along with another girl staying at the Sandusky household in 1995.

Sandusky and his wife Dottie adopted six children, all from troubled backgrounds. One of these children was Matt.

Matt's biological mother, Debra Long, sat down with ABC News and described "a frightening inside look at the way Jerry Sandusky used charm, gifts, and the power of Penn State football to allegedly groom young boys for sex."

Matt entered the Sandusky home in 1995 as the youngest adopted Sandusky child, reports the Patriot-News.

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Sandusky became his mentor when the boy was just 10-years-old via The Second Mile charity for at-risk-youth. Matt was placed in juvenile hall after he set fire to a barn in 1995. Soon after that, he entered the Sandusky home and was officially adopted when he turned 18-years-old. Matt was placed in the Sandusky household by the Children and Youth Services at the request of Sandusky.

Long says that although Matt was initially excited and impressed by Sandusky, the relationship shifted.

"It was as if Jerry owned Matthew," said Long.

"My son was afraid of Jerry," she added, describing how Matt's impression of Jerry took a 180-degree turn.

"As time went on, I would watch the same kid hide behind the bedroom door and say, 'Mom, tell him I'm not home.'"

About four months after Matt went to live with Sandusky, he attempted suicide. The suicide attempt was made along with a girl who was also staying at the Sandusky house, reports the Patriot-News.

"The probation department has some serious concerns about the juvenile's safety and his current progress in placement with the Sandusky family," wrote Terry L. Trude, a school-based probation officer, days after the suicide attempt.

The letter by Trude also included complaints made by Long related to concerns over Matt's safety and mental condition. Long wanted Matt to be placed in another foster home.

"It wasn't until Jerry came into the picture that Matt started acting out in school. Matt ended up burning down a barn with another youth, you know -- it wasn't until Jerry came into the picture ... that mentor turned him from the quiet, good kid into -- what Jerry could use to take him," Long told ABC.

The night of his suicide attempt, Matt wrote a letter for the probation officer on his case saying: "I would like to be placed back with the Sanduskys. I feel that they have supported me even when I have messed up. They are a loving caring group of people. I love both my biological family and the Sandusky family."

There is no further information given about the girl Matt attempted suicide with.

It is known that of the six children Sandusky and his wife Dottie adopted, five were boys and one was a girl. That one girl was Kara Sandusky.

There is an excerpt about Matt in Sandusky's book "Touched" and Kara herself contributes a warm sentiment, "[He is] an incredible man who has touched the lives of so many."

Matt is not one of the victims listed in the grand jury report but he did present in front of the grand jury.

At 33-years-old, Matt continues to support Jerry Sandusky. He even took his children to Sandusky's house the day Sandusky was arrested. However, the mother of Matt's children immediately went to the court to file an order against Sandusky being alone with her kids.

After Sandusky's interview on "Rock Center," when he denied all allegations against him to Bob Costas, Sandusky's victims are more ready than ever to tell their stories.

ABC News reports that multiple witnesses are willing to testify in court that they were sexually assaulted by the coach.

Ben Andreozzi, an attorney representing one such witness, said that one such victim called him immediately after Sandusky's interview to say he is ready to go to court.

"He has decided to dig in his heels. He's not going anywhere. He fully intends to testify," said Andreozzi.

The attorney added that Sandusky "elected to re-victimize these young men at a time when they should be healing."

Another boy supposedly willing to testify is Victim 1 in the grand jury report, the individual who was the first to come forward to authorities about the alleged abuse.
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