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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:12 pm

No wonder the patsy stories don't make any sense! The terrorists have learned to cover their tracks!

Analysis: Terrorists begin to cover their tracks before taking action

Absence of warning signs has become hallmark of recent domestic plots, analysts say

LOL. Not having any discernible ties to any terrorists is a now a hallmark of a terrorist attack!

Some radicalized individuals ‘are being a lot more careful,’ making them harder to detect

Threat to U.S. increasingly comes from self-radicalized individuals with no clear ties to outside groups

The young couple who killed 14 people in San Bernardino fit a profile now familiar from other recent acts of terrorism in the United States.

Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, 29, were devout Muslims but not outwardly radical. They were members of a close-knit family with ties to the community. They built and stored crude pipe bombs in their home. And their attack apparently was inspired by but not directed by extremists abroad.

The couple thus had more in common with the Army psychiatrist who shot up a military facility at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009, and the North Caucasus brothers who set off homemade bombs at the Boston Marathon in 2013, than with the Belgian and French gunmen who killed 130 people last month in Paris.

In contrast with the Paris attacks, no evidence yet indicates that Farook and Malik were part of a larger conspiracy organized by Islamic State or another militant group, or were part of a bigger terrorist cell in California.

That helped them avoid detection before Wednesday’s massacre. Indeed, the absence of warning signs has become a hallmark of recent domestic plots, analysts said.

“So far we have no indication these killers were part of an organized larger group or formed part of a cell,” FBI Director James B. Comey said Friday. “There is no indication they were part of a network.”

Investigators have learned that Farook had made contact – in some cases by phone and in others via social media – with people who came up tangentially in previous federal terrorism investigations. But he had not drawn any scrutiny.

And officials said that his Pakistani-born wife had posted a comment swearing fealty to Islamic State on a Facebook page – but only just before the couple stormed into a holiday party at the Inland Regional Center, guns blazing.

There was “nothing of such a significance” that it drew FBI attention before the attack, Comey said.

No evidence suggests the couple joined jihadist chat rooms or posted on websites popular with Islamic militants, according to Seth Jones, a terrorism analyst with the Rand Corp., a Santa Monica-based think tank.

“The challenge the U.S. faces is that there are radical individuals who are being a lot more careful and it makes them virtually impossible to detect,” Jones said.

With al-Qaida now overshadowed by Islamic State, the threat to Americans increasingly comes from self-radicalized individuals with no clear ties to outside groups. Their plots are less organized and possibly less deadly, but paradoxically also harder to stop, analysts say.

“There are no direct communications or orders that you can intercept to realize that there’s a plot going on,” said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University. “There’s an absence of red flags.”

Investigators may find that Farook and Malik left digital or other tracks that have not yet emerged.

After Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 people and injured more than 30 at a military processing center at Fort Hood on Nov. 5, 2009, for example, investigators found that a Joint Terrorism Task Force knew he had been in direct contact with Anwar Awlaki, a Qaida leader in Yemen who was later killed in a U.S. drone strike.

And after Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev killed three people and wounded more than 260 at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, the Russian government said it had warned the FBI two years earlier that Tamerlan and his mother were “adherents of radical Islam” and that he was preparing to join unspecified “bandit underground groups” in Dagestan and Chechnya.

The FBI failed to follow up on the warnings, a subsequent investigation showed.

Still, the pattern of Islamic extremists operating in the U.S. without outside direction is a clear change from the period after Sept. 11, 2001, when al-Qaida and its supporters repeatedly sought to bomb airliners or other U.S. targets with operatives who were trained and directed by militants abroad.

Those included the incident in late 2001 when a British citizen tried to detonate explosives in his shoe on a flight to Miami; a foiled 2009 plot to bomb New York City subways by an Afghan-American who had trained at al-Qaida camps; and the 2010 attempted car bombing in New York’s Times Square by a Connecticut resident who had traveled to Pakistan for training.

Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, the network’s affiliate in Yemen, hatched two other failed plots – the 2009 attempt to down a Northwest Airlines flight over Detroit by a Nigerian man with a bomb in his underwear, and a 2010 attempt to explode bombs hidden in printer cartridges aboard two U.S.-bound cargo jets.

Even before Wednesday’s attack, the FBI had about 900 active investigations of suspected Islamic State sympathizers or supporters and other homegrown extremists. Authorities have arrested 71 people on charges related to the group since March 2014, including 56 this year.

The group’s social media, propaganda videos and direct appeals have exhorted followers to launch attacks in their own countries. In recent weeks, militants have bombed a Russian aircraft over Egypt, conducted bombings in Lebanon and Libya, and shot up restaurants and other sites in Paris.

Last fall, Islamic State released a video by a spokesman, Abu Muhammad Adnani, that called for revenge against countries that sent forces to Iraq and Syria to fight them, including Australia, France, Canada and the United States.

Michael C. Leiter, a former senior counter-terrorism official in the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, said that signaled a greater danger in some ways because Islamic State wasn’t trying to send operatives into the United States.

“People ask, ‘Is it directed or is it inspired?’ I think that’s entirely the wrong rubric because their direction is to inspire,” he said. “They are not looking to direct attacks at all.”


Could it just possibly be that what all of these unexplainable attacks all have in common is blameless patsies? Nah, that's just what these crafty terrorist types with no previous connections to terror or crime of any sort want us to think!
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:34 pm

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/12/05/ ... a-program/

The FBI has not said what it was looking for in a raid early Saturday at the home next door to where San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook’s family used to live in Riverside, California.

Neighbors say authorities with guns drawn broke windows and used a cutting torch to get into the garage. A neighbor says an old friend of Farook’s is the person that lives in the house.

A law enforcement official says that more than three years ago, that person bought two assault rifles later used in the shooting, but authorities haven’t been able to talk to him because he checked himself into a mental hospital after the attack. The official was not allowed to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The FBI has said the man is not a suspect in shootings, though they want to question him.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby fruhmenschen » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:04 pm

Good thing shooting did not happen in Los Angeles.

It would of been written up as a misdemeanor

and as voters and taxpayers we own the police.
shame on you!


http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-m ... story.html


LAPD misclassified more than 25,000 serious crimes as minor, audit finds


A report shows LAPD misclassified serious crimes, ommitting them from the tally of violence over the past seven years.

Poor training, an error-prone records system and widespread confusion among Los Angeles police led to thousands of serious crimes being omitted from the city's tally of violence over the past seven years, an audit by the department's independent watchdog found.

In the report, which was released Friday, Inspector General Alex Bustamante estimated the LAPD misclassified more than 25,000 aggravated assaults as minor incidents from 2008 to 2014.

The errors meant the number of serious attacks would have been 36% higher than what the LAPD reported during that time, the audit found. Aggravated assaults are included in the department's official count of crime, while the less-serious incidents are not counted.

The number of misclassified crimes was not large enough to alter the overall crime trends reported by the department from one year to the next, which included a steady drop in violence until 2014, when the crime rate began to climb. Bustamante's report echoes the findings of a Times analysis in October that also concluded the department misclassified thousands of crimes during an eight-year period ending in 2012.

However, the inspector general, who had far greater access than The Times to crime reports and other internal LAPD documents, found considerably more errors.

The inaccurate statistics "were due to a combination of systemic issues, procedural deficiencies, department-wide misconceptions about what constitutes an aggravated assault, and, in a small number of cases, individual officer error," the audit found.
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In one startling finding, Bustamante wrote that a survey conducted by department officials in recent years found roughly 70% of LAPD personnel had received "little or no training" on standardized rules for reporting crime that are set out by the FBI.

The internal survey also found there was "some confusion" within department ranks about who was responsible for entering the information about incidents into the agency's crime database. And watch commanders, who serve as station supervisors, often wrongly refer to the state's criminal penal code when making decisions about how to classify crimes instead of FBI guidelines.
LAPD underreported serious assaults, skewing crime stats for 8 years
LAPD underreported serious assaults, skewing crime stats for 8 years

The widespread shortcomings gave rise to a host of problems.

When completing reports on domestic violence cases, for example, officers and supervisors often failed to specify if the attack was a serious or minor offense under the FBI rules, Bustamante wrote. Without knowing which to choose, station clerks "defaulted to the code indicating simple assault," when documenting incidents into the department's crime database, Bustamante found. One-fifth of the misclassified incidents identified by the inspector general fit this pattern, the report said.

More than a quarter of the errors were due to the LAPD failing to count cases in which suspects brandished weapons as aggravated assaults.

The police commission, a civilian board that oversees the LAPD, instructed Bustamante to conduct the audit after a 2014 Times investigation that examined 12 months of LAPD crime data and found widespread errors in how assaults — including hundreds of stabbings and beatings — were classified.

In response to that report, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck publicly acknowledged problems with the department's process for recording crimes. He launched a series of changes aimed at improving internal accountability and the training officers receive on how to classify crimes.

The reforms implemented last year center around a newly formed team of detectives responsible for improving the quality of the department's crime reporting. Known as the Data Integrity Unit, the team has retrained hundreds of officers who have a role in classifying crimes. The unit also now conducts spot checks on crime reports from across the department's regional divisions in search of mistakes.

Bustamante concluded the reforms appear to be showing results as the LAPD committed errors at about half the rate of previous years in the first quarter of 2015, the audit found.

Saying the department had worked closely with the inspector general as he conducted the audit, Assistant Chief Michel Moore acknowledged that the department had made crime reporting errors. He said the reforms and increased oversight the department implemented following the Times investigation have begun to take root and are meant to improve the accuracy of crime classifications.

The audit, based on a random sample of 3,856 minor crime reports, did not address the issue of "reclassifications," which happen when a case is initially documented as serious but later downgraded to a minor offense. Last year, The Times obtained records on 53 incident reports and found that one-third were improperly changed.

"Numbers matter, especially when they are reported to the public," said Matt Johnson, president of the police commission. "The increase in aggravated assaults is very troubling and I wish it was identified sooner, but I'm pleased
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:15 pm

http://www.pe.com/articles/house-788434 ... -says.html

A Riverside man who used to fix cars together with former next-door neighbor and suspected mass murderer Syed Farook is believed to have purchased the assault rifles used in the shootings that killed 14 people and wounded 21 at a holiday party in San Bernardino. ...

(The guy who "checked himself" into a mental hospital.)

Escamilla said he never saw Marquez with guns and that Marquez did little to attract attention to himself other than hold an occasional loud party. ...

The day before the raid, Escamilla said, his sister noticed a grey car parked on the street with someone inside staring at the Marquez home. Later, the car circled the street.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:26 pm

Kevin Barrett knows his stuff...that's why a certain person here tried their best worse to trash him in the pope thread..and got his ass handed to him btw :)

Drills baby drills!

AlicetheKurious » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:50 pm wrote:These are very good questions. I've watched a bit of CNN (as much as I can bear) over the past couple of days, and some of these questions occurred to me, too. Though nobody on the "news" seems to be interested in asking them, for some annoying reason.

BTW, I included only some of the links below. The rest can be found in the original article. I strongly urge interested readers to check out the links I did include, because they have some very interesting information.

San Bernadino shooting story “shot full of holes” by patsies’ attorney
By Kevin Barrett on December 6, 2015

Ten questions THEY don't want you to ask




By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor

As CNN has reported, an attorney in the case has stated bluntly that the government’s account of what happened in San Bernadino “does not add up.”

One think we know for sure: The government is lying. So what really happened? Here are some obvious questions that the mainstream media is afraid to ask.

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Since the windows of the couple’s SUV were found rolled up and blown out, how could the couple have initiated a gun battle with police through rolled-up windows? Nobody is going to fire assault weapons through rolled-up vehicle windows. The logical inference is that the police executed these people in cold blood. There was no “shootout.”

Both victims were found dead in handcuffs. Are we supposed to believe that they initiated a gun battle with police while wearing handcuffs and shooting through rolled-up windows?! It seems that the two patsies were handcuffed, set in place for execution according to a scripted plan, and summarily shot dead.

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Why the handcuffs?

Why the handcuffs?

If the alleged shooters really “had contact with Syrian al Qaeda-affiliated group AND al Shabaab in Somalia” why wouldn’t the authorities make every effort to capture them alive so they could be interrogated, and their alleged terror network dismantled? This same question comes up every time the authorities summarily execute terror suspects and/or witnesses – Bin Laden, Mohamed Merah, the Charlie Hebdo patsies, Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and key witness Ibragim Todashev…

4. If the couple was really part of a terrorist network, would the FBI let the media ransack the crime scene?

5. If this supposed radical Muslim Bonnie-and-Clyde acted alone, who was the third gunman reported by multiple eyewitnesses?

6. Could the five foot tall, under-125-pound woman really have handled: A tactic vest • Body armor • Smith & Wesson M&P .223 Caliber Assault rifle • Magazine re-loading clips • Hand gun • Spare pipe bomb, detonator…and then tweeted her allegiance to Islamic State exactly one minute after the shooting began? “She posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on Facebook while the shooting was happening, three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation told CNN.”

7. Why would Inland Regional Center conduct active shooter drills “every month or so” as reported by the Los Angeles Times?

8. Is it just a coincidence that the only center for disabled people in the world that conducts active shooter drills every month (I challenge readers to find another one) happened to be the place where either (a) a huge mass shooting just happened to erupt, or (b) a drill went live?

9. And if it’s just a coincidence, were the 46 drills of 9/11 also a coincidence, Peter Power’s terror drills on 7/7/2005 yet another coincidence, the Boston Marathon bomb drills one more coincidence, the multiple-location active shooter exercises in Paris on 11/13 just another coincidence…and to accept all this “coincidence,” do you have to be a batshit-crazy coincidence theorist?

10. If this were really “radical Islamic terrorism,” why would the perpetrators kill a bunch of disabled people, rather than targeting high-level individuals who are responsible for the murder of more than a million Muslims since the 9/11/2001 neocon propaganda stunt?

If we ever hear: “This just in! Radical Muslim terrorists have slaughtered Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Dov Zakheim, and the other architects of the genocidal War on Islam in General and Palestine in Particular launched by the 9/11 inside job,” I just might believe it. Until that day, we are safe in assuming that the increasingly ridiculous stories of alleged radical Islamist attacks on random civilians that no Muslim would ever want to harm – like virtually all alleged Islamic terror plots since 9/11, according to Aaronson’s detailed investigation – are part of the same Gladio B program launched by the 9/11 neocon coup d’état. Link
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Postby Rory » Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:56 pm

The handcuffs are easy. Cops in the US handcuff everyone they shoot. Even that guy they shot in the head in Los Feliz a short while back - they flipped him over and cuffed him. No attempt to attend to him medically. I imagine was the same here. Dragged them out of the car and cuffed them in the street. Even if they we re already dead
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby SonicG » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:00 pm

I think the active shooter drill might not be such a big deal anymore. I don't know about welfare centers but it seems that hospitals are doing them regularly:
http://www.hasc.org/active-shooter-drill-resources
Although, about every month? That angle needs to be looked at. Talk about instilling fear...Then again, San Berdoo is infamous for Hells Angels so there probably are a lot of weapons floating around and nutters on meth...

ETA:
Of course, it is becoming a big industry.
'Run, hide, fight': What to do in a violent 'active shooter' situation
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Postby brekin » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:41 pm

SonicG wrote:I think the active shooter drill might not be such a big deal anymore. I don't know about welfare centers but it seems that hospitals are doing them regularly:
http://www.hasc.org/active-shooter-drill-resources
Although, about every month? That angle needs to be looked at. Talk about instilling fear...Then again, San Berdoo is infamous for Hells Angels so there probably are a lot of weapons floating around and nutters on meth...

ETA:
Of course, it is becoming a big industry.
'Run, hide, fight': What to do in a violent 'active shooter' situation
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/peop ... olice.html


Yes, active shooter drill may be rolled into a monthly all purpose emergency drill to.
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Postby slomo » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:56 pm

U.S. rethinking strategy on fighting homegrown attacks

(Reuters) - U.S. officials, faced with an evolving threat of deadly attacks by homegrown extremists, are rethinking their strategy on battling domestic terror after Wednesday's assault that killed 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., the New York Times reported on Saturday.

The United States should beef up airline security by increasing agents in overseas airports, bolster standards for visa waiver programs, and improve communications between officials and Muslim communities to help locate threats, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson told the Times.

"We have moved to an entirely new phase in the global terrorist threat and in our homeland security efforts,” Johnson told the newspaper in an interview. Terrorists have "in effect outsourced attempts to attack our homeland. We’ve seen this not just here but in other places. This requires a whole new approach, in my view."

President Barack Obama will address the nation on Sunday evening to give an update on the investigation into the San Bernardino shooting, the White House said on Saturday.

An increase in Muslim voices contrary to extremist propaganda disseminated by the Islamic State is also necessary, the Times said, citing administration officials.

"We can work with the private sector to get additional messengers with alternative voices out there," Lisa Monaco, the president's counterterrorism adviser, told the Times. "Frankly, we've got to do a better job of approaching this in a way that allows us to — the phrase has been used — break the brand of (Islamic State's) message."
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:11 am

It'll be a miracle if there isn't a Mumbai/Paris styled attack by manchurian "jihadis" in the next couple months. But I also notice an alarming
rate of young or homeless black men being straight up executed by police in America. Many being videotaped. Add to the mix gun sales continue to skyrocket,
and you had that idiot judge on Fox tonight for five minutes straight yelling at the camera saying everyone needs to buy guns, hate Muslims and get ready
for Muslim Red Dawn in America.

Basically, I believe un-organically we're seeing a virulent hedging of baiting both the "Islamic terrorism" domestically and the stoking of racial tension/right wing paranoia.
2016 will be absolutely ugly.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby AlicetheKurious » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:01 am

Watch the birdie. Keep watching the birdie. Do not, under any circumstances, take your eye off the birdie.

Report Reveals $8.5 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Budget
June 2, 2015
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Yahoo Money' The Daily Ticker is reporting that it has discovered a Reuters investigation that reveals $8.5 trillion – that's trillion with a "T" – in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon since 1996 that has never been accounted for.

You read that right. While Republican politicians rush to slash food stamps for the 47 million Americans living in poverty – the highest amount in nearly two decades – Republican U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has the audacity to complain that $20 billion dollars in automatic sequester cuts to the massive and secretive $565.8 billion Defense Department budget are " too steep, too deep, and too abrupt," all while the Pentagon and the Defense Department are overseeing massive fraud, waste, and abuse.

For anyone wondering, Reuters reports that the D.O.D.'s 2012 budget totaled $565.8 billion, more than the annual defense budgets of the 10 next largest military spenders combined, including Russia and China.

In an interview, Linda Woodford, an employee at the Defense Finance and Accounting Service – the Pentagon's main accounting agency – reveals to Reuters that she spent the last 15 years of her career simply "plugging in" false numbers every month to balance the books;

"A lot of times there were issues of numbers being inaccurate. We didn't have the detail ... for a lot of it."

In the REAL WORLD, that would be called MASSIVE FRAUD.

Woodford's involvement in the fraud doesn't even begin to scratch the surface. The report also reveals that "a single DFAS office in Columbus, Ohio, made at least $1.59 trillion – yes, trillion – in errors, including $538 billion in plugs, in financial reports for the Air Force in 2009."

Yahoo Finance lists some additional findings, including;

-The DOD has amassed a backlog of more than $500 billion in unaudited contracts with outside vendors. How much of that money paid for actual goods and services delivered isn't known.

-Over the past 10 years the DOD has signed contracts for provisions of more than $3 trillion in goods and services. How much of that money is wasted in overpayments to contractors, or was never spent and never remitted to the Treasury is a mystery.

-The Pentagon uses a standard operating procedure to enter false numbers, or "plugs," to cover lost or missing information in their accounting in order to submit a balanced budget to the Treasury. In 2012, the Pentagon reported $9.22 billion in these reconciling amounts. That was up from $7.41 billion the year before.


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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:07 am

I have not read this whole thread but I might try to catch up on it so forgive if i'm not getting the picture.

Scanning this last page right quick and seeing this one picture something struck me as odd. This much blood pooled should coagulate and become a dark color in a short time. Why is it still so bright red and uncoagulated?

Spilled blood coagulates and becomes a dark color relatively quick. This blood doesn't look right to me if it stayed in the road very long. I might be wrong about this observation but the blood doesn't seem right to me. Blood coagulates and gets dark.

Maybe they shot him and took his picture almost immediately but something about this blood doesn't look right for a guy laying in the road shot dead for a while.
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Report Reveals $8.5 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Budget


You hit a bullseye right there Alice.

This is what I wonder about. Considering that it is a fact that the mainstream news outlets are in league with the system that is pilfering all this money why are they reporting it to the public? Why would they notify the public?

Is it simply a matter of shoving the Overton Window into a position that makes it seem normal to steal this much money or what? Why are the mainstream news outlets that are part and parcel of this big thieving money show openly announcing the fact that trillions of dollars are being ripped off?

The day before nine eleven two trillion went missing and then oops a couple of buildings got knocked down. The thing that puzzles me about the announcements of all these missing trillions is the fact that the general public is not privy to the accounting financial details and has absolutely no clue now much money is being ripped off so why do they keep shouting about how much money is being ripped off?

The herd would never know anyway but the mainstream bullshit machine keeps telling the herd that a ton of money is being ripped off, which is obvious to RI people, but the herd would never know if it didn't get shouted out, and they still don't care anyway obviously...

The perps keep screaming about how much money they steal and if a person tries to think about that too much it can bend a mind over....
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Postby SonicG » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:18 am

Might want to reread the original articles.
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-8-5-t ... gon.t3173/

Does this mean $8.5 trillion was lost? No, the $8.5 trillion is the entire pentagon budget from 1996 to 2012. That's the entire budget for 16 years, because the baseline budget is "only" about $0.5 billion a year.
They did not lose the money. They spent the money. They even accounted for the money. They simply did not account for every single transaction in enough detail to satisfy the requirements for a full audit.

This is not to say everything is fine. It's not. There's a vast amount of waste, and quite possibly a vast amount of pork and fraud, likely totally billions over the 16 year period. But the suggestion that $8.5 trillion is missing is ludicrous - again, that's all the money the Pentagon (which is about half the budget of the DoD) has spent over those 16 years

(The original article is from 2013 so there is no timing importance here.)

Obviously there is a ton of waste, kickbacks, skimming etc. with the military budget but is important to stick to the actual facts.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:44 am

There used to be constraints around here against posting pics of dead bodies ...

As for the color - every image software program I've ever used has a way of adjusting the color balance.

Why? If It Bleeds It Leads...

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backtoiam » 07 Dec 2015 09:07 wrote:I have not read this whole thread but I might try to catch up on it so forgive if i'm not getting the picture.

Scanning this last page right quick and seeing this one picture something struck me as odd. This much blood pooled should coagulate and become a dark color in a short time. Why is it still so bright red and uncoagulated?
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