Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

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Postby IanEye » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:56 pm



the unedited footage keeps leaving youtube.
This link appears to be unedited.

one can just glimpse the officer's feet as the car drives off, it is frustrating that the camera angle trying to follow the car does not show more of the officer,
in terms of viewing blood flowing from the wound (or lack thereof).

also, not to get too off-topic, but what do people here know of the site "storm clouds gathering"?
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby coffin_dodger » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:33 pm

Hollande asked Netanyahu not to attend Paris memorial march Haaretz 12 Jan 2014

Absence sought as part of attempt to keep Israeli-Palestinian conflict out of European show of unity; After Netanyahu insisted on coming, French made it clear Abbas would be invited as well.

French President Francois Hollande conveyed a message to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the weekend asking him not to come to Paris to take part in the march against terror on Sunday, according to an Israeli source who was privy to the contacts between the Elysees Palace and the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem. The fact that this message had been conveyed was first reported by Channel 2.

After the French government began to send invitations to world leaders to participate in the rally against terror, Hollande’s national security adviser, Jacques Audibert, contacted his Israeli counterpart, Yossi Cohen, and said that Hollande would prefer that Netanyahu not attend, the source said.

Audibert explained that Hollande wanted the event to focus on demonstrating solidarity with France, and to avoid anything liable to divert attention to other controversial issues, like Jewish-Muslim relations or the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Audibert said that Hollande hoped that Netanyahu would understand the difficulties his arrival might pose and would announce that he would not be attending.

The source noted that one of the French concerns - not conveyed to representatives of the Israeli government - was that Netanyahu would take advantage of the event for campaign purposes and make speeches, especially about the Jews of France. Such statements, the Elysee Palace feared, would hurt the demonstration of solidarity the French government was trying to promote as part of dealing with the terror attacks.

According to the source, Netanyahu at first acquiesced to the French request. In any case, the Shin Bet security service unit that protects public figures considered the arrangements for the prime minister’s security to be complex. And so, on Saturday evening, Netanyahu’s people announced that he would not be flying to Paris because of security concerns. Netanyahu told the French he would come to France on Tuesday for a Jewish community event.

cont - http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.636557?v=D9B18F0B6D785F827EDA7137FD551BC6
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:42 pm

I know the links's been posted already, but here are the photos for anyone who didn't click on the link:

Borzou Daragahi @borzou

Seems world leaders didn't "lead" #CharlieHebdo marchers in Paris but conducted photo op on empty, guarded street


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David K. Wayne @MrDKWayne

lol reminds me of the "masses pulls down Saddam's statue" movie in Iraq 2003


Right. That the first photo was reproduced all over the mass media can only be described as a deliberate and knowing deception of the public by the politicians and press. So that's at least one serious, intentional lie now proven in connection with this case.

Exactly when and where were those photos taken? Did any of those people even take part in the march at all?
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby slimmouse » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:52 pm

Taken from one of the SLAD cartoons...

why are the fuckers still laughing at us ?


That would be a great thread within which the creative minds of this forum could answer.

Maybe we need a Charliehebdo sub thread, in order to keep this one open to relevant information about this latest fucking fiasco of an atrocity ?

Oh and Aint those pictures above something else?
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:03 pm

"Je suis Charlie"
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby zangtang » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:44 pm

any danger someone competent can do us the biggest possible blow up of the policeman's head and upper torso, before the resolution becomes watery?

- from the frames immediately after being 'shot' in the head
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:44 pm

OMFG, they are coming to get us:

12 January 2015 Last updated at 18:18 GMT

US Centcom Twitter account 'hacked by Islamic State'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30785232


"i love you isis" lol

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I might be entering the realms of science fiction here, but I suspect that the US military might even have the ability to hack their own Twitter account. (Big secret budget and all that.)
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:13 pm

Nordic » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:08 am wrote:
Hunter » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:40 pm wrote:The one major problem for me wrt to CTs is that there are almost never any major deathbed confessions by major players, surely someone who knows exactly what happened to JFK would spill it on his or her deathbed, then again perhaps they have and we just never heard about it. I would expect the same with 9-11 in the coming years, no better way to seal your legacy in history than to go out with a bang like that, yet we hardly ever see it. Strange to me, if I were in that position I would have it all documented and sealed with my lawyer and read in public on the day of my death.


http://www.examiner.com/article/e-howar ... assination

There's one. Of course do we know it's true? Of course we don't. The Rule of the Rabbit Holes must be upheld.


That example immediately came to my mind as well. To call Howard Hunt a pathological liar is an understatement; he was a paid professional liar. But where the JFK assassination was concerned, he lied to his children and lied about his children on the witness stand. So on his deathbed, with his son begging for the truth, I think he tried to be as honest as he was capable, but being a pathological liar, couldn't help throwing some untruths into the story of his involvement in the JFK assassination, which of course exonerates him. What pathos exists in his story is completely undermined, IMO, by his being such a tool of empire.

As far as Paul Craig Roberts goes, I'm not sure what to make of him. Seems like he's just expressing an opinion, not pulling a Morgan Reynolds claiming he's got the goods from the inside.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby semper occultus » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:02 pm

...blimey....one for the suicides & sus deaths..(?)

French police commissioner 'shot himself dead in his office after meeting relatives of a Charlie Hebdo victim'

Helric Fredou shot himself on Wednesday night in Limoges, France
He had been the deputy director of the regional police since 2012
Commissioner Fredou was said to have been 'depressed' and overworked
By STEVE HOPKINS FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:20, 12 January 2015 | UPDATED: 19:15, 12 January 2015

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2906808/Police-commissioner-shot-dead-office-meeting-relatives-Charlie-Hebdo-victim-claim-French-TV-news.html

A French police commissioner has reportedly taken his own life after meeting the relatives of a victim murdered in the Charlie Hebdo massacre.

Helric Fredou, 45, shot himself in his office with his police-issue gun on Wednesday night in Limoges, a city in central France, according to France 3.
Commissioner Fredou began his career as a police office in 1997 and had been the deputy director of the regional police since 2012.

Colleagues told France 3 he was 'depressed' and overworked, and said he was single and had no children.

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Death: Helric Fredou is said to have been depressed when he shot himself with his police-issue weapon

Brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi shot 12 people dead at the Charlie Hebdo offices on Wednesday before seeking refuge in a print works.

They were killed on Friday afternoon during a shoot-out with police, as was their alleged accomplice, Amedy Coulibaly, who killed four hostages at a kosher supermarket in Paris.
France's national police union has expressed its 'sincere condolences' over Commissioner Fredou's death and said they were thinking especially of his colleagues.

A statement the morning after the death read: 'It is with great sadness that we were informed this morning of the death of our colleague Helric Fredou, assigned as Deputy Director of the Regional Service Judicial Police in Limoges.
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Postby elfismiles » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:44 pm

Untangling a deadly web: The Paris attacks, the suspects, the links (Video)
By Greg Botelho, CNN
Updated 0501 GMT (1301 HKT) January 11, 2015

Paris terror suspects connected to al Qaeda recruiter 01:31

Story highlights
Of the four suspects in connection with the Paris attacks, two were brothers; the other two were boyfriend-girlfriend
The four were linked to each other, and reportedly to al Qaeda and ISIS

(CNN)—Connect the dots, piece together the paths of terrorists.

That's one challenge for authorities in the wake of this week's bloodshed in France. Understanding what happened is one thing. Understanding why it happened requires not just knowing the players involved, but also their backgrounds and how they were linked.

And, according to authorities and sources, the links extend between the suspects in the Paris shootings and some of biggest names in the terror world.

They have been tied to two of the world's biggest and strongest terrorist groups: al Qaeda and ISIS.

The names Cherif Kouachi, Said Kouachi, Amedy Coulibaly and Hayat Boumeddiene are now known around the world, with three of them dead and the fourth -- Bourmeddiene -- being sought.

Here's what they did and their relationship to one other.

CHERIF KOUACHI

Who was he?

Like his brother Said, the 32-year-old French citizen of Algerian descent was born in Paris, and raised in orphanages and foster homes from a young age. Reports in French media described him as a rap fan more interested in chasing girls than going to the mosque -- at least until he became a student of well-known French spiritual leader Farid Benyettou.

Where did he go?

French Justice Minister Christiane Taubira told CNN that one of the Kouachi brothers had been in Yemen in 2005, but did not say which one. On Friday, shortly before his death as police stormed the building where he and his brother had holed up, Cherif Kouachi told CNN affiliate BFMTV that he'd trained in Yemen with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

In 2005, he was arrested for being part of a a jihadist recruitment ring in Paris that sent fighters to join the conflict in Iraq. The arrest came not long before he and another man were about to set off for Syria en route to Iraq, where war was raging.

Evidence suggests Cherif Kouachi traveled to Syria and returned to France in August 2014, a French source close to that nation's security services told CNN.

Who did he know?

In his conversation with BFMTV, Cherif Kouachi said he met with Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born Muslim who was the face of AQAP until he was killed in the fall of 2011 in a U.S. drone strike.

While in pretrial detention before his eventual conviction of being part of a jihadist recruitment ring, Cherif met Djamel Beghal, who was in prison for his role in an attempted attack against the U.S. Embassy in Paris in 2001.

SAID KOUACHI

Who was he? Like his brother Cherif, the 34-year-old French citizen grew up an orphan.

Mohammed Benali, who runs the mosque in Gennevilliers, the suburb where Cherif Kouachi had an apartment, said the two brothers used to come to Friday prayers there "not assiduously but regularly."

He told Le Figaro that he knew Said Kouachi better, but that he hadn't seen either of the brothers at the mosque in at least two years. He said the older brother was "a very reserved man," but he recalled one angry outburst in the mosque when the imam encouraged the faithful to vote in the presidential election.

Said Kouachi "had an angry reaction, he left the prayer room and voiced his disagreement," Benali said. "For these lunatics, when we practice and teach moderate Islam -- actual Islam -- we're nonbelievers."

Where did he go?

A senior Yemeni national security official told CNN that Said Kouachi entered Yemen multiple times with an officially issued visa, during which time he was "not being watched.

Kouachi first went to Yemen in 2009, said Yemeni journalist and researcher Mohammed al-Kibsi. Officials haven't confirmed a connection between the two.

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Brothers trained with terror groups 02:04
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He stayed there until mid-2010 before leaving briefly and returning at the end of that year. He remained in Yemen most of 2011, according to Kibsi, who said he met the man twice.

U.S. officials have said Said Kouachi spent several months in Yemen in 2011, receiving weapons training and working with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

Al-Kibsi said he saw Kouachi again in 2012, in the old city of Sanaa at another Arabic language center.

USA Today reported that Said Kouachi traveled to Syria.

Who did he know?

While in Yemen, he lived in the same apartment as convicted underwear bomber Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, journalist al-Kibsi said. This would have had to have been before December 2009, when AbdulMutallab was detained in Detroit after his commercial airline bombing plot failed.

Kouachi said that he and AbdulMutallab used to pray together at Yemen's al-Tabari School, and that they shared an apartment for one to two weeks in Yemen, according to al-Kibisi. Kouachi was studying Arabic grammar at the Sanaa Arabic Grammar Institute, al-Kibisi said.

CNN does not have official confirmation that Said Kouachi knew AbdulMutallab, a Nigerian national who, authorities said at his U.S. trial, told the FBI that he that he had links to Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

It's also possible that he met al-Awlaki while in Yemen.

Last year alone, his wife exchanged 500 phone calls with at-large suspect Hayat Boumeddiene, according to Paris prosecutor Francois Molin. The wife told investigators that her husband and suspect Amedy Coulibaly knew each other well.

AMEDY COULIBALY

Who was he?

The 32-year-old went by the alias Doly Gringny. Before this week, he was known to French authorities dating back at least to his May 18, 2010, arrest for his involvement in an attempt to free an Algerian serving time for a 1995 subway bombing, a Western intelligence source told CNN.

Where did he go?

Little is known about Coulibaly's travels, beyond that he and girlfriend Hayat Boumeddiene traveled to Malaysia together.

Who did he know?

At the time of his 2010 arrest, he had 240 rounds of ammunition for a Kalishnikov and photo of himself with Djamel Beghal, a French Algerian once known as al Qaeda's premiere European recruiter who was convicted of conspiring to attack the U.S. Embassy in Paris.

Watch this video
Paris gunman speaks to CNN affiliate during siege 01:57
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Before he was killed by police, Amedy Coulibaly purportedly told CNN affiliate BFMTV by phone that he belonged to ISIS, or the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, the terror group trying to create a fundamentalist religious state across Sunni areas in those two countries. That information hasn't been corroborated by authorities, and it's not known whether he knew any leaders or members of that terrorist group.

Coulibaly shared a residence with Boumeddiene, and they traveled to Malaysia together, the source said.

HAYAT BOUMEDDIENE

Who is she?

The French newspaper Le Monde posted photos purporting to show the 26-year-old Boumeddiene in 2010, in a rural location, wearing a niqab and holding a weapon that appears to be a crossbow. A niqab is a head-to-toe black covering a woman's body completely except for the eyes.

CNN has not independently confirmed the authenticity of the stills.

In one of the photos, a woman Le Monde identifies as Boumeddiene is shown in a niqab is posing near cheek-to-cheek with Coulibaly in what the newspaper called a selfie.

French authorities said they wanted her in connection with Thursday killing of a policewoman in Montrouge. But now it's come out that she may not have even been in France at the time. She's still wanted by authorities in connection with the attack.

A neighbor in a southern Paris suburb said she seemed kind and polite, always wearing a veil and often motoring around on a scooter with her romantic partner Amedy Coulibaly.

Where did she go?

Beyond traveling to Malaysia with Coulibaly, Boumeddiene's official travel history in recent years is sparse.

Boumeddiene is believed to have left for Turkey "of course to reach Syria" at the beginning of the year, according to a French source close to the nation's security services.

She was tracked by Turkish authorities to a location near the Turkey-Syria border, according to an official in the Turkish Prime Minister's office. Boumeddiene arrived at the Istanbul airport on a flight from Madrid on January 2 with a man. During routine screening of passengers, the couple were flagged by Turkey's Risk Assessment Center and a decision made to maintain surveillance on their movements, the official said.

Who did she know?

Boumeddiene exchanged 500 phone calls with the wife of Cherif Kouachi in 2014, according to Paris prosecutor Francois Molins. The wife told investigators that her husband and Coulibaly knew each other well.

CNN's Josh Levs, Michael Martinez, Barbara Starr, Nick Paton Walsh, Evan Perez, Lonzo Cook and Deborah Feyerick and journalist Hakim Almasmari contributed to this report.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/11/europ ... onnection/
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:48 pm

There are pause-worthy details in this account, and I think the mere existence of the rooftop footage is more remarkable than the content.

It is completely possible to put a bullet through a human skull, even from close range, and not draw blood.

I cannot emphasize enough: our conception of violence is Hollywood, not violence. Your brain isn't full of blood.
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Postby Asta » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:10 pm

Approximately the volumn of 3 full soda cans of blood flows through the brain every 60 seconds.

http://www.loni.usc.edu/about_loni/educ ... trivia.php

More interesting brain bits at http://mindhacks.com/2012/06/09/a-shot-to-the-head/ particularly something called The Kronlein Shot.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:43 pm

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Asta » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:10 pm wrote:Approximately the volumn of 3 full soda cans of blood flows through the brain every 60 seconds.

http://www.loni.usc.edu/about_loni/educ ... trivia.php

More interesting brain bits at http://mindhacks.com/2012/06/09/a-shot-to-the-head/ particularly something called The Kronlein Shot.
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Postby zangtang » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:15 pm

blood or lack therof notwithstanding, i was wondering if the policeman was actually wearing a mask.....
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Le Grand Blond avec une chaussure noire

Postby IanEye » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:34 pm

i like how the guy riding shotgun remembers to pick up his shoe, but then they leave their ID behind.
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