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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:47 am

More on the SWALLOW... ?

Swallow

A female agent employed to seduce people for intelligence purposes

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Tashfeen Malik Was a ‘Saudi Girl’ Who Stood Out at a Pakistani University
By DECLAN WALSHDEC. 6, 2015
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The main gate of Bahauddin Zakariya University, where Tashfeen Malik studied pharmacy, in Multan, Pakistan, on Sunday. Credit Asim Tanveer/Associated Press

CAIRO — As a tide of Islamist violence washed across Pakistan in recent years, Bahauddin Zakariya University in the southern city of Multan struggled to halt spreading intolerance, with mixed results.
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That university has come into the spotlight in recent days as one of the few known way points for Tashfeen Malik, the Pakistani-born woman who along with her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, took up assault rifles and, the police say, killed 14 people last week in San Bernardino, Calif.

Ms. Malik’s role in the decision to attack is of particular interest, in part because on the day of the assault she posted on Facebook that the couple was dedicating the massacre to the Islamic State. She and her husband were killed in a gun battle with the police after the attack.
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During Ms. Malik’s time as a pharmacy student at the Multan university, starting in 2007, as Taliban attacks shook Pakistan, the area around Multan and her nearby hometown gained notoriety as centers of radical sectarian activity. The authorities’ concern became so great that in the months after Ms. Malik left the university, officials there began helping Pakistani intelligence agencies monitor for extremist activity on campus. The officials even installed surveillance cameras in the residence halls, out of concern that they had become recruiting grounds for radical groups.
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Tashfeen Malik Credit FBI, via Associated Press

Teachers described Ms. Malik as a polite and driven student who was visibly devout, always wearing the niqab face covering and avoiding contact with male students. But that hardly made her unique in southern Pakistan, particularly after she had spent most of her life in Saudi Arabia, and the timing and circumstances of her shift into militancy remain a mystery to investigators.

Still, in the turbulence of that moment, and in the broader generational tensions stemming from Pakistani families who, like Ms. Malik’s, go to Saudi Arabia for opportunity and return practicing a more conservative brand of Islam, there are clues to the cultural and religious way stations of her apparent transformation.

Culturally, Ms. Malik, 29, straddled several worlds, having been born in Pakistan, raised in Saudi Arabia and married in the United States.

Her family, which comes from the remote Layyah District of Punjab Province, moved to Jidda, Saudi Arabia, in 1989, according to interviews with some of her relatives and former neighbors in the area. They say that her father, an engineer, left in anger, having fallen out with his brothers over a property dispute.

From 2007 to at least 2012, Ms. Malik studied in Multan, the main city in southern Punjab, famed for its sparkling religious shrines that mark it as a historical center of Sufism, a mystical form of Islam.

Although Ms. Malik obtained her place under a quota system that reserves places for the children of expatriate Pakistanis, she quickly impressed professors with her diligence and ability. Some thought she might eventually become a lecturer.

“We felt she could be an asset to the university if she joined the faculty after completing her studies,” Dr. Khalid Hussain Janbaz, a former lecturer, said in a phone interview.

No male lecturer knew what she looked like, however, because of the niqab. And though conservative Muslims were not unusual there, Ms. Malik developed a reputation as someone who purposefully avoided making friends with men and who was deeply rooted in her Saudi upbringing.

After two years living at Maryam Hall, a hostel for female students, she complained to one faculty member that she was uncomfortable with the behavior of the other women. “She told me, ‘My parents live in Saudi Arabia, and I am not getting along with my roommates and cannot adjust with them, so can you help me?’ ” Dr. Syed Nisar Hussain Shah recalled.

Soon after, Ms. Malik moved into a private house in the city that her parents rented for her. “I would call Tashfeen a Saudi girl,” Dr. Shah said. “She had just come to Pakistan for her degree.”

In many ways, Ms. Malik was a classic product of the conservatizing influence that Saudi Arabia has brought to bear on countries like Pakistan.

Critics of Saudi influence usually focus on the funding of hard-line mosques and religious schools, a criticism echoed on Sunday by the German vice chancellor, Sigmar Gabriel, who connected the export of Saudi-style Islam to the danger from growing extremism in Europe. “We must make it clear to the Saudis that the time of looking the other way is over,” Mr. Gabriel said an interview with the newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

But Ms. Malik’s family represents a different strand of the same phenomenon: changes wrought by Pakistanis who, since the 1970s, have migrated to Saudi Arabia for work, only to return with a far more conservative creed.

Relatives and neighbors said that, after some years in Saudi Arabia, Ms. Malik’s father, Gulzar, rejected the Barelvi school of Sunni Islam that his family had traditionally practiced, and turned to the stricter Deobandi school. He stopped returning home for weddings, and his children, including Ms. Malik, did not meet their Pakistani relatives.

“There was a lot of friction within the whole family as they adhered to different sects,” said Zahid Gishkori, a journalist based in Islamabad who is from the same district as the family.

In recent interviews in the United States, some of Mr. Farook’s male relatives spoke of Ms. Malik’s conservative ways with suspicion, saying they had never seen her face and noting that she chose not to drive.

Dr. Shah, of the university faculty, said he was shocked by the news that Ms. Malik was suspected of committing a mass killing. He said he did not think she had become radicalized at the university, because it does not have a reputation for extremism.

But neither Multan nor Ms. Malik’s university have been immune to extremist currents. A proliferation of hard-line religious schools across southern Punjab have obtained a reputation as incubators for sectarian and militant groups, some of which enjoy the tacit support of political leaders and elements of the Pakistani security forces.

In response, the university kept a “very vigilant eye” on its students, said Dr. Janbaz, the lecturer, and coordinated with intelligence agencies to install surveillance cameras. Ms. Malik, however, never came under scrutiny, he said.

“We never heard anything suspicious about her activities,” he said. “She kept to herself and seemed to just focus on her studies.”

But the authorities did little to stop a virtual witch hunt on campus that led to a nationally publicized death after Ms. Malik left the university.

In 2013, Islamist students there accused Junaid Hafeez, a young lecturer in English who had traveled to the United States as a Fulbright scholar, of insulting the Prophet Muhammad in comments he made on his Facebook page. Mr. Hafeez was later charged with blasphemy, a crime that carries a possible death penalty in Pakistan, and he is currently in jail awaiting trial.

Mr. Hafeez has struggled to find legal representation since two men fatally shot his lawyer, Rashid Rehman, in May 2014, in what was seen as punishment for daring to defend someone accused of blasphemy.

Pakistani security officials say there is no indication yet that Ms. Malik moved in extremist circles on campus or in the city. Yet they have sought to restrict reporting from the area in recent days, often by issuing quiet threats to Pakistani reporters to back off. The officials conducted a search of Ms. Malik’s former home in Multan on Saturday.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said that investigators from the United States were “working closely with our foreign counterparts,” including Pakistan, to gather more information about Ms. Malik and Mr. Farook. At a news conference in Islamabad on Sunday, Pakistan’s interior minister, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, pledged to cooperate with the American investigation.

But Mr. Khan criticized some of the American news media’s coverage of the attack.

“The wrongdoing of an individual Muslim or Pakistani does not mean the entire country or religion is at fault,” he said.

Ms. Malik’s estranged relatives, however, have been vocal in expressing shame over her actions.

“We are ashamed and shocked about this act done by our niece,” Malik Ahmed Ali Aulakh, a relative and a former provincial minister, told Agence France-Presse. “Why did she do something so gruesome? We can’t believe it.”

Salman Masood and Taha Siddiqui contributed reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan, and Waqar Gillani from Lahore.

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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby NaturalMystik » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:28 am

elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:44 am wrote:There used to be constraints around here against posting pics of dead bodies ...


I'd vote for that again... I don't want to see pictures of dead bodies...
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:24 pm

California shooter attended Islamic school in Pakistan
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:31 pm

NaturalMystik » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:28 am wrote:
elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:44 am wrote:There used to be constraints around here against posting pics of dead bodies ...


I'd vote for that again... I don't want to see pictures of dead bodies...


I'm not saying this as a policy pronouncement or anything, but personally, I like that quite a bit. Rotten.com is still holding that niche down, we don't need to compete with those good folks.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:39 pm

A trigger warning and a link directly to the image in question is fine; we're not hosting the images here like we do with the text so it's not like we're saving it as evidence. The image in question is interesting though. I've never seen that much human blood before but that color looks awfully flat and red in the shadowed area. I don't disbelieve the death of two individuals by those names but it almost seems like the color has been modified in order to terrorize us.

Related side note - has anyone else noticed how much old data ONLY exists here - articles from 2006-2010 whose content has been scrubbed from the web and which were never pasted elsewhere? Thank goodness for copy and paste. I've been running into this a lot lately.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:42 pm

copy and pasting since 2002 :)
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby SonicG » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:48 pm

Interesting info. about the Swallow that doesn't really add up to much except that roads lead to SA and Pakistan...for now. Let's wait and see who will be made to pay for this one...And getting lost in this is the fact that the couple lived with his mother...
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby norton ash » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:56 pm

Patsies. All I can see is organized crime and the mighty Wurlitzer harmonizing perfectly on this one. I'm convinced that some principled county employees got murdered in the midst of an elaborate sideshow featuring collateral damage and Muslim-terrorist-blame. All orchestrated by the men who fired your dad.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:15 pm

So the alleged shooter's father (who is an alleged alcoholic wife beater), supposedly told an Italian newspaper that his son was obsessed with Israel and sympathetic to ISIS. These "facts" have been widely reported in the US press.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/us/be ... .html?_r=0

The latest twist came in La Stampa, an Italian newspaper, which reported that Mr. Farook’s father said in an interview that his son had always been more conservative in his religious beliefs than much of the family and had become “fixated against Israel.” But Hussam Ayloush, the executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that Mr. Farook did not remember speaking to an Italian reporter.

“He is under a lot of stress and he actually does not recall saying any of the things that were quoted,” said Mr. Ayloush, speaking outside the home of one of Mr. Farook’s daughters.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:25 pm

Meanwhile, back in Pakistan

Since the shootings, reporters have been digging into her background overseas, an effort that has apparently ruffled feathers in Pakistan. Reuters reported that journalists covering the story in Pakistan have faced major obstacles from government officials.

Three professors at the university where Malik studied told Reuters they had been instructed by security forces not to speak to reporters. An unnamed professor told Reuters that security officials removed all records and photos of Malik from the campus.

However, an interior ministry official told Reuters that the threat to journalists was due to a “misunderstanding.”

Other reporters said that they were prevented from leaving their hotel in Multan by men claiming to be Pakistani officials.


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Pakistani intelligence officials said Malik attended a religious school while living in Pakistan. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity under regulations, identified the school Monday as the Al-Huda International Seminary. Its founder has been criticized for promoting a conservative strain of Islam but the school has no known links to extremists.

Pakistani police and intelligence agents have searched the house where she lived in the city of Multan, seizing documents, family photo albums and a laptop belonging to Malik's sister, Shahida, said Shabana Saif, a counterterrorism official.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:31 pm

norton ash » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:56 pm wrote:Patsies. All I can see is organized crime and the mighty Wurlitzer harmonizing perfectly on this one. I'm convinced that some principled county employees got murdered in the midst of an elaborate sideshow featuring collateral damage and Muslim-terrorist-blame. All orchestrated by the men who fired your dad.



Yeah this one doesn't just smell this way, it walks and talks like the proverbial duck. This one is blatant.

I'm also seeing a hell of a lot of people, people who usually aren't into "conspiracies" who simply aren't believing this. In my universe it almost seems to be the default position that this is all bullshit.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby norton ash » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:32 pm

And if they were all radicalized and hell-bent for terror... why an office party instead of the Hollywood Bowl or Disneyland or the Getty Center?
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:37 pm

Poor fuckers probably never knew what hit them. The "shooters" that is.

Now that's terrifying. Any of us could find ourselves patsies, staring down the barrel of a gun.

It's the ultimate identity theft.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:38 pm

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/ ... -hospital/

RIVERSIDE (CBSLA.com) — The man authorities believe bought assault weapons used in the San Bernardino mass killing has checked into a psychiatric hospital, CBS News has confirmed.

David Begnaud, a freelance correspondent for network, reported the news Sunday via Twitter. ...

Overnight Saturday, an army of federal agents served search warrants at a Riverside County home next to the home where Farook once lived.

The FBI has not disclosed what, if anything, the agency found at the home, nor what they were seeking. The warrant was sealed. ...

A law enforcement source told CBS News that they’re confident that no one aside from Farook and allegedly the neighbor, identified as Enrique Marquez, were involved in the purchase of the guns.

According to the network, the source says law enforcement believes Farook and Marquez allegedly reconfigured the guns to be more powerful after buying them legally in California.

Growing up, neighbors say Farook and Marquez were “always together” usually working on Farook’s car. “They were very quiet and then they found each other and you know they were best buddies for a long time,” said a neighbor.

The network also reports that law enforcement officials are reviewing video from gun-store owners who called to report they saw the pair together.

According to Ed Mertz of KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO, the FBI says they want to question the man, but he checked himself into a psychiatric hospital after the attack.

According to CBS News, authorities are expected to defer to the U.S. Attorney’s office for the next steps.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:44 pm

OK, so we know for a fact that they are "self-radicalized" ISIS-inspired terrorists. But we are also so certain that they worked 100% alone that we do not need to interview their mental patient friend who bought the assault rifles for them?

more fun with "journalism"

Investigators also told Fox News that the couple were ‘dry-firing’ in another Southern California home's backyard before the attack, meaning that they were practicing pulling the trigger but had no bullets in the chamber.

‘The intent is to train the mind to kill,’ a source told Fox of the preparations.


The shooting range’s owner Peter Lee said that he had been on a cruise in the lead up to the shooting, but FBI contacted him on Wednesday night and later took his video surveillance and financial statements.

Receipts for two online gun stores, Budsgunshop.com and Cheaper than Dirt, were found in their home. (By whom? The FBI or the reporters they were left for)

The shooters themselves are thought to have bought handguns used in the attack, though a friend of theirs is said to have purchased two ‘assault-style’ rifles for them.

Enrique Marquez Jr, a security guard friend of Farook’s, later checked himself into a mental hospital after the killings.

As of the weekend, FBI agents had not yet interviewed him, but had raided his home on Sunday.
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