The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:03 pm

Full Picture Coming Into View

Joseph diGenova on Fox.
By Josh Marshall

September 29, 2019 1:38 pm

Chris Wallace reported this morning on Fox News that two other names you’ll know have been working with Rudy Giuliani on his mission to strong-arm Ukraine into intervening in the 2020 election and help exonerate Paul Manafort: the husband and wife team of Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing. The two are frequent Hannity guests and at various points have been reported to be either joining or working with the President’s legal team. In this sense, working with Giuliani – the President’s so-called “private lawyer” – makes a fair amount of sense.

But there’s a bit more to this.


As I noted yesterday, material that has been surfacing from The Hill’s ‘opinion’ reporter John Solomon and then echoed by Giuliani seems to originate with one of Ukraine’s richest and most powerful oligarchs who is a former business partner of Paul Manafort and had to flee Ukraine after the overthrow of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. He is in Austria, fighting extradition to the United States to face bribery charges.



His name is Dimtry Firtash.

Viktor Shokin is the ‘fired prosecutor’ at the center of all these stories. As part of Firtash’s effort to avoid extradition from Austria to the United States, he asked Shokin to swear out the affidavit in which Shokin accuses Biden of getting him fired to protect his son Hunter. (There is no evidence any of this happened. There was no investigation of Hunter Biden or the company on whose board he sat at the time Shokin was fired.)

So to review, former Manafort business partner Firtash asks Shokin to swear out an affidavit in which he accuses Biden. The affidavit quickly gets into the hands of Giuliani and Solomon. And who just recently went to work for Firtash’s legal team? None other than diGenova and Toensing, as reported just this week by the Kyiv Post and other publications.

So the duo who we now learned has been working on behalf of the President with Rudy Giuliani to extort the Ukrainian government just signed on to represent the oligarch behind the affidavit in which the disgraced prosecutor says Joe Biden got him fired. And yes, the oligarch who got booted from Ukraine in 2014 and is a former business partner of Paul Manafort.

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby RocketMan » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:07 pm

So what did the "whistleblower" actually blow the whistle on...? The NY Times reports that the whistleblower is a CIA OFFICER. Whistleblower status was redefined earlier this year to include forwarding "hearsay" as grounds for whistleblower protection. WTF.

This truly smells like another Russiagate.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:09 pm

Sorry you can’t keep up
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby RocketMan » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:21 pm

The CIA is running another op, and you are of course lapping it up, nom nom.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:18 pm

You really need to stop

Or continue whatever you little heart desires

Maybe I’ll take up that new rule, we’ll see what happens

If if makes you feel better go for it......make shit up I really don’t care

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:03 pm

Scott Pelley on CBS just now: "
@60Minutes
has obtained a letter that indicates" the whistleblower "is under federal protection -- because he or she fears for their safety."


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The Daily Beast
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BREAKING: A Fox News host reported that two frequent guests on the Trump-loving cable news channel were “working off the books” to help Rudy Giuliani dig up dirt on Trump’s leading Democratic opponent and the only person who knew was the president himself
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-digen ... itter_page


Scott Stedman

@RudyGiuliani
went on ABC and held up this affidavit as proof that the DNC colluded with Ukraine. Rudy, the jig is up. This affidavit was produced by Joe diGenova and
@VicToensing
in their case representing Ukrainian oligarch/Russian mafia insider Dmytro Firtash.



· Sep 26
Holy shit. It looks like Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing got the corrupt ex-Prosecutor in Ukraine to make ridiculous claims in a sworn affidavit for their new Ukrainian client. https://scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement
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and
@VicToensing
This is a manufactured political hit job against the Democrats that was cooked up by Trump lawyers.


He’s doing it again
The Bidens are doing all they can to silence me, this is why!

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Reminder: in a month the President's rat-fucker will go on trial for threats against Randy Credico like the ones the President is making against the whistleblower right now.




I Wrote About the Bidens and Ukraine Years Ago. Then the Right-Wing Spin Machine Turned the Story Upside Down.
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/25/i-w ... side-down/


Before Trump, Cambridge Analytica’s parent built weapons for war
How the parent company of Trump’s campaign firm plied its skills on the battlefield and in elections, while working for the U.S., the U.K., and NATO.
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CRITICAL ANALYSIS in SLATE: Major Washington Post Report This Weekend Reveals Trump Administration May Have Hidden Key Document Proving Collusion From Special Counsel Mueller—And May Have Committed a Federal Felony to Do So



Seth Abramson

CRITICAL ANALYSIS in SLATE: Major Washington Post Report This Weekend Reveals Trump Administration May Have Hidden Key Document Proving Collusion From Special Counsel Mueller—And May Have Committed a Federal Felony to Do So

1/ I've been harping for 5 months on the part of Vol. 1 of the Mueller Report that reveals that—in the view of Mueller and his team—*numerous* Trump witnesses lied, withheld evidence, destroyed evidence, or refused to be interviewed. Now those chickens are *coming home to roost*.

2/ Not many people realize that Mueller made clear, *in his report*, that there was a concerted effort by both Trump and Trump witnesses to keep him from finding evidence that would establish a conspiracy with Russia. This week we learned one of the key pieces of hidden evidence.


3/ The reason we delayed release of PROOF OF CONSPIRACY 2 weeks to complete a chapter on the Mueller Report and cite it throughout—making PROOF OF CONSPIRACY the first book to offer full analysis of the Report—is we knew there were 5-alarm fires in it that no one was discussing.

4/ In short, the reason that the Mueller Report could only say that based on the *available* evidence proof of conspiracy could not be established beyond a reasonable doubt—the law's highest standard—is because it was also alleging a *cover-up* involving Trump's team *and* Trump.

5/ The harrowing events of this week *should* be sending all America back to the Mueller Report—now that we have *specific, articulable proof* that work on Volume 1 (Conspiracy) indeed *was* deliberately hindered and obstructed by knowingly *criminal* acts by Trump's White House.

6/ Think of it: the same man who told America, post-Mueller Report, "no obstruction, no collusion" *knew* that his team had feloniously hidden from the Special Counsel evidence that in May 2017 he *directly told Kremlin agents he didn't care if they attacked America's elections*.


7/ Do you think evidence from May '17 that Trump *directly told Kremlin agents he didn't care if they attacked America's elections* was relevant to Mueller's investigation into whether Trump and Kremlin agents agreed the Kremlin would be allowed to attack America? BOY, I SURE DO.
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Did the White House Hide a Bombshell Memo From Mueller?
Dahlia LithwickSept 28, 20194:30 PM
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Robert Mueller testifies before the House Intelligence Committee about his report on Russian interference in the 2016 election on July 24 in Washington, D.C.
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On Friday night the Washington Post dropped another blockbuster report in the midst of a fast-unspooling scandal involving Donald Trump’s improper communications with foreign officials. It raises a worrying question: Was there a memorandum that should have been produced to the Mueller probe that was never turned over?

We learned Thursday, by way of a 9-page whistleblower report, about conversations between Trump and the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Trump seems to have conditioned the receipt of military aid on Zelensky’s pledge to reopen “cases” that would investigate Joe Biden’s son for Trump’s own electoral benefit, that in the wake of the July phone call with Zelensky, “senior White House officials had intervened to ‘lock down’ all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced—as is customary.” We further learned from the whistleblower complaint that White House officials were ordered by “White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination, finalization, and distribution to Cabinet-level officials.” Further we know now that although it contained no classified information from a national security perspective, “the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature.”

That latter bit is almost a bigger scandal than the fact that the president tried to extort a foreign ally to produce fake opposition research in order to win the election. It directly implicates White House lawyers in hiding embarrassing documents under the pretext of protecting national security information. Beyond which, it’s explicitly illegal to classify things for the purpose of covering up embarrassing behavior or misconduct. Presumably the House Intelligence Committee will now have to figure out who these lawyers were, and Russia, if you’re listening, maybe you can track down the emails.

But here’s where Friday night’s Washington Post story perhaps magnifies the Ukraine scandal: The report, by Shane Harris, Josh Dawsey, and Ellen Nakashima, alleges that there is a memorandum summarizing the White House meeting on May 10, 2017, between Donald Trump, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, a meeting at which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a foreign agent, and at which he also told Lavrov and Kislyak that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

The Post goes on to note that “it is not clear whether a memo documenting the May 10, 2017, meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak was placed into that system, but the three former officials said it was restricted to a very small number of people.” Here’s the problem: That May 10 White House meeting was the subject of intense scrutiny by the Mueller probe because it went directly to the question of why Comey was fired. Page 71 of the second volume of the Mueller report notes, “In the morning on May 10, 2017, President Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office.” The footnote cites to a White House document entitled “Working Visit with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov of Russia” which is dated 5/9/17, the day before the meeting, and to an email (5/9/17 White House Document, “Working Visit with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov of Russia”); SCR08_001274 (5/10/17 Email, Ciaramella to Kelly, et al.). That’s the only document that seems to have been produced in reference to the May 10 meeting. There is confirmation of Trump’s remarks about Comey’s firing being a relief from Sean Spicer and Hope Hicks.

That’s it. The May 10 meeting is supported by an email. Now the question becomes, if there was a memorandum of that meeting, how is it possible that it was not produced to Mueller? It’s awfully hard to believe that Mueller didn’t ask for any readout or memorandum from that meeting; a meeting at which the president explained that he fired Comey in part because he was being pressured by the Russia investigation. That admission to his Russian visitors is part of one of the obstructive acts Mueller found.

So, assuming the Post is correct that a memorandum of that meeting exists, what happened to it? Assuming Mueller is capable of drafting a document request, why was that memorandum not produced? Was it logged and redacted? Was it deemed classified under the newly discovered separate server used only for hiding catastrophic missteps or worse? Or was it produced to Mueller, and its contents did not make it into the report because for unknown reason Mueller chose not to include it?

The notion that Mueller missed this altogether borders on the incredible. We know that Mueller sought to question Trump on “Alleged Obstruction of Justice” and that one of the items he expressly wanted to ask about was “13. Information regarding communications with Ambassador Kislyak, Minister Lavrov, and Lester Holt.” (Trump’s lawyers declined the interview altogether). So, given that Mueller wanted to ask Trump about the May 10 meeting in an interview, it’s unlikely he forgot to ask that any documents around the meeting be produced. Either that May 10 email was the memorandum and Mueller just ignored Trump’s comments on welcoming foreign election tampering, or he never saw the memo.

There’s another possibility. Tobias Barrington Wolff, who teaches the American civil justice system and constitutional law at University of Pennsylvania Law School, tells me in an email that the May 10 memorandum may be different. Because in that meeting, he notes, Trump disclosed a key confidential Israeli asset, “there maybe was actually some national security classification issue there. So the story from 2017 is vital, but also more complex. Precisely because he disclosed classified information, the treatment of that particular transcript may be ambiguous.” But, he adds, even if the May 10 memorandum was properly classified, “This emphasizes the point that Mueller’s conclusions were based on imperfect information precisely because of White House and Trump misconduct.”

Did someone in the White House simply decline to turn over the May 10 memorandum as described to the Washington Post, in which case someone obstructed justice? Or did someone send the May 10 memorandum to the same place the reports of the Trump-Zelensky phone call of July 2019 went? Locked down on a separate electronics system that Mueller didn’t know about? That would mean, at the very least, that someone was obstructing Mueller’s obstruction investigation, and we should know who that was.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... ssion=true






In 2016, Donald Trump got away with colluding with Russia by using Hillary’s emails as a foil to distract the public. Now heading into 2020, Trump is once again trying to use Hillary’s emails as a foil to get away with trying to collude with Ukraine. This time it won’t work.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby RocketMan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:51 am

Why has the fact that there is a whistleblower been made public but not the content of the report? This is shady af.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:01 am

The whistleblower report has been made public. Just saying. While there is no doubt this did happen -- Trump solicited and threatened a foreign power to help him destrory a political opponent - I am also highly skeptical of the way the story was discovered by a CIA employee and framed as a singular offense, which happens to target Biden as the victim. I am even more skeptical of the approach, the Democrats ready to stake everything on this of all the issues available for impeachment, possibly without including anything else. It is a losing strategy. Biden's dirty and though even dirtier Trump's had no trouble flipping this into base bait.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby RocketMan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:29 am

JackRiddler » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:01 am wrote:The whistleblower report has been made public. Just saying. While there is no doubt this did happen -- Trump solicited and threatened a foreign power to help him destrory a political opponent - I am also highly skeptical of the way the story was discovered by a CIA employee and framed as a singular offense, which happens to target Biden as the victim. I am even more skeptical of the approach, the Democrats ready to stake everything on this of all the issues available for impeachment, possibly without including anything else. It is a losing strategy. Biden's dirty and though even dirtier Trump's had no trouble flipping this into base bait.


Thanks, my Googling skills obv. leave a lot to be desired. \<] Will read it now.

As (the DESPICABLE, in the context of this thread) Aaron Mate pointed out somewhere, even the hallowed Watergate scandal was instigated by Nixon's moves against another Washington power clique, not his genocidal bombing of Vietnam and Cambodia. Quite analogous to this case and Trump's (or, rather, the bipartisan national security establishment's) unwavering support to Saudi-Arabia's brutal hammering of Yemen, among others.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:50 am

trump tweeted a quote late on Sunday night that made clear he was in favor of a “Civil War” if he’s impeached and removed



MCCARTHY: You just added another word.

PELLEY: No, it’s in the transcript.

MCCARTHY: He said-“I’d like you to do a favor though”?

PELLEY: Yes, it’s in the WH transcript.

*magical glamour lifts*

MCCARTHY: Well gosh now I understand why everyone’s so upset. Let’s take 5.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:57 am


5 Ways Impeachment Could Play Out
We’re in unprecedented territory.
By JEFF GREENFIELD
09/29/2019 06:55 AM EDT
Jeff Greenfield is a five-time Emmy-winning network television analyst and author.
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If you’re looking at history to provide a guide to the impending impeachment saga … don’t. With only three past examples, involving three very different controversies, there’s thin gruel that will provide little nourishment. So let’s turn to a different tool: the concept of an infinite number of universes, where events play out in different ways, depending on everything from consequential decisions to random chance. Modesty forbids asserting that any of the outcomes listed below will happen; only that they might.

Some of these universes may seem improbable or even fanciful, I know. But before you dismiss them all, ask yourself this question: Would the universe we are living in now have seemed any less fanciful three years ago?


IN UNIVERSE ONE

The House provides a forum for a deliberate look at a narrow set of facts. The template is the Senate Watergate Committee, which began poking into Watergate and other “presidential campaign activities” in the spring of 1973. It was a select committee of seven members, with nary an ideologue in sight. (Chairman Sam Ervin was a conservative Democrat; ranking member Howard Baker was a moderate Republican.) Over 319 hours, the nation learned of John Dean’s “cancer on the presidency” and the revelation that there was a taping system inside the White House. Notably, much of the questioning was done by staff counsel, which made for less political bloviation and more targeted inquiry.

So in this scenario, instead of having six committees channel their findings to the Judiciary Committee, Speaker Nancy Pelosi changes her mind and creates a similar select committee, whose staff lawyers do the lion’s share of the questioning, focused on the issue raised by the whistleblower: Did the president withhold desperately needed military aid to pressure Ukraine into damaging a potential political opponent.

In this universe, there is at least a chance of laying out the facts in a clear frame, enabling the public to grasp the essence of the case for impeachment. That in turn moves public opinion to the point where some congressional Republicans begin to recalculate the benefits and cost of a pro-impeachment vote.

IN UNIVERSE TWO

Pelosi sticks to her original plan to have six (count 'em six) committees feed their conclusions to the House Judiciary Committee. These committees are already investigating everything from Trump’s taxes to payoffs to mistresses to the origins of Trump’s wealth.

The Judiciary panel is among the most polarized of congressional bodies. Several Democrats have been pushing for impeachment, while Republicans on the panel include Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz and Louie Gohmert, who devote much of their time to revisiting the “deep state” theory of an anti-Trump coup, as well as raising questions about the financial and personal travails of Hunter Biden. Just Friday, Senator Tom Cotton and conservative columnist and talk show host Hugh Hewitt tweeted about a paternity suit involving Hunter Biden.

In this format, barely controlled chaos is the order of the day. Witnesses either refuse to testify or confront the Democrats with furious denunciations. See the exchange between former Immigration and Custom Enforcement Director Thomas Hohman and Representative Pramila Jayapal for a preview of what is to come. The hearings feature each of the 40 members engaging in five minute soliloquies, ending in a party-line vote on impeachment.


As the committee descends into bitter partisan warfare, Trump’s media firewall goes to Defcon 1, with nightly, even hourly assaults on the Democrats’ attempted coup. And public opinion—which had been moving toward impeachment in the wake of the whistleblower’s complaint—now begins to swing toward “it’s the same old political noise” view. Trump’s job approval ratings stabilize, and when impeachment reaches the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell moves to dismiss the counts so that “we can get back to doing the people’s business”—meaning that there won’t even be a vote. I know McConnell has said there has to be a trial, but he has never in the past been bound by consistency.

IN UNIVERSE THREE

As the Judiciary Committee’s hearings provide a steady dose of ever-more damaging evidence—aided by an intelligence community and former White House aides turned whistleblowers, cracks begin to widen in the Republican-conservative firewall that has been protecting Trump from the 2016 campaign on. Mitt Romney’s “deeply troubling” view of Trump’s behavior, and similar comments by Senators Ben Sasse and Pat Toomey, persuade a handful of House Republicans—many of whom like Will Hurd have already announced their retirements—to vote for impeachment.

Similar cracks widen in the media; the Drudge Report continues to feature damaging stories about Trump on its front page. At Fox News, the war between the journalists and the advocates intensifies; an attempted “debate” between Andrew Napolitano and Joseph diGenova turns into chaos, as the principals almost come to blows.

When impeachment comes to the Senate, after a contentious House process in which there are divides among the Republicans, half a dozen GOP senators vote to convict, leaving Trump in office, but seriously damaged. In February, Trump barely wins a majority of votes in the New Hampshire primary, with New Hampshire native Bill Weld coming in second.

IN UNIVERSE FOUR

As the Judiciary Committee meets, the fortunes of Joe Biden begin to worsen as committee Republicans and the media—both right wing and mainstream—put the former vice president into the spotlight. The lengthy, deeply reported New Yorker story from July about Hunter Biden’s troubled life gains new visibility, as do accounts of Joe Biden’s six-figure speaking fees and post-vice presidential wealth.

By Thanksgiving Day, Biden withdraws from the race, and a muddled Democratic primary field heads toward a lengthy, divisive primary, with faint signs that Sherrod Brown, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore and Michael Bloomberg are “reassessing” their prospects.


Meanwhile, Trump’s approval ratings—as they have after every past controversy—stabilize in the low 40s, and the prediction markets peg his reelection chances at 50 percent.

IN UNIVERSE FIVE

As the evidence mounts against Trump, and the Judiciary Committee becomes the setting for a steady drip of damaging evidence against the president, he becomes more and more unmoored, launching into lengthy monologues about the spies and traitors inside his own administration. In response, onetime members of Trump’s administration—Jim Mattis, Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster—begin to express their concern about the president’s stability. As the president’s mental health becomes increasingly worrisome, a delegation including Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Lou Dobbs and Rudy Giuliani goes to the White House and urges Trump to resign. Trump orders them thrown out of the White House and tweets a stream of accusations about backstabbers; he also urges all Fox viewers to boycott the network, and speculates that Rupert Murdoch may never have become a U.S citizen.

Those with long memories note that, during the last days of Nixon’s presidency, Defense Secretary James Schlesinger told the Joint Chiefs of Staff not to execute any presidential order involving military force without first checking with him. Unfortunately, with no one in any semblance of authority at the White House or anywhere in the administration, there is no one to check Trump. The president’s effort to divert attention from his troubles results in armed military conflict in Iran, North Korea, the South China Sea and Venezuela. The year ends with the very real prospect of one or more of these conflicts “going nuclear.”
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:04 am

Seth Abramson


(IMPORTANT NOTE) Immediately after warning of a "civil war" if Democrats *legally and constitutionally* impeach Trump, Trump surrogate Jeffress cites a portion of the Book of Daniel that discusses (a) a war between North and South, and (b) the anti-Christ.

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1/ So as you can see from the interview, (1) Jeffress specifically went on Fox News to make his "prediction," (2) called evangelicals to "action" while raising the specter of a Second Civil War in harrowingly *precise* Biblical terms, and then (3) Trump was ready to retweet him.


2/ It's *not* an exaggeration to say both Trump and his surrogate Jeffress are trying to foment civil unrest—to include potential rebellion against the government of the United States—in the event of a *wholly legal and constitutional* action by the Congress of the United States.


3/ We must stop pretending these words are just coincidental—or these retweets. Jeffress is a Trump surrogate; he told Fox News he had a specific statement he wanted to make; that statement involved a "civil war" and a call to "action" that cited a North-South war from the Bible.



4/ Trump lawyer Joe diGenova—a man involved in pumping foreign disinformation into the 2020 election to again illegally help Trump secure election—has clearly told listeners of a Fox News-linked podcast to *purchase guns* and be ready for a *Second Civil War*. This is dangerous.



5/ I don't think such statements yet arise to the level of terroristic threats—but they're going down that road. Either media can take this new trend in pro-Trump (and Trump) rhetoric seriously or we can find ourselves unprepared for just how dangerous these criminals really are.

MY VIEW/ No matter your politics, we *all* should proceed *peacefully, lawfully, and constitutionally* toward whatever disagreements have arisen or may yet arise over Trump's actions. We should trust in the rule of law, our democracy, and our Constitution if we love this country.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:16 am

mrs panstreppon


Notice similarities bet the timing of Peter Schweizer's "Clinton Cash" & his latest about Biden, "Secret Empires"? Both funded by Rebakah & Robert Mercer thru their "not-for-profit, the Government Accountability Institute.....

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:21 am

Wendy Siegelman


- Victoria Toensing who with husband Joe diGenova teamed with Giuliani to create a new conspiracy in Ukraine to help Trump in 2020 - also repped Sam Clovis, Erik Prince and promoted the Uranium One conspiracy
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Sam Clovis' lawyer, Victoria Toensing [who was on FoxNews tonight perpetuating the Uranium One/HRC myth & represents the FBI informant who wants to testify in the Uranium One probe] is also Erik Prince's attorney.
"Prince denies any role in Trump transition-"
#maddow https://twitter.com/dcpoll/status/933061432220028929


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^ Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater & brother of Betsy DeVos, will testify to House Intel Cmte next week in Trump-Russia probe. He denies any role in Trump transition. Lol.
#maddow http://politi.co/2zWol3f
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^ [Clovis & Erik Prince's attorney] Victoria Toensing & her husband Joseph DiGenova have been in the anti-Clinton camp for decades just like the Kellyanne Conway & her husband George...



good catch! looks like Toensing and her husband have been in the anti-Clinton camp for decades, like the Conways...
https://books.google.com/books?id=A3y7D ... ay&f=false



^ This is getting good-
[Clovis & Erik Prince's atty] Victoria Toensing's husband, Joseph DiGenova & George Conway were involved in Troopergate w/ the now deceased Peter Smith [plotted w/Flynn to find HRC emails]

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^ Clovis [whose atty represents Erik Prince & Uranium One 'informant' & husband was Troopergate special counsel], Kellyanne Conway [husband involved w/Troopergate] & the now deceased Peter Smith [Troopergate] tried to find HRC hacked emails

GOP activist Peter Smith who sought HRC emails also cited Bannon, Conway, Clovis along w/Flynn

https://wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-w ... 1498872923


https://mobile.twitter.com/mrspanstrepp ... 8109711360
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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:37 am

Seth Abramson


It's irresponsible for media to give this killer a platform without also directing viewers to—right now—the only book detailing the Khashoggi assassination and MBS's collusion with Trump before, during, and after it: PROOF OF CONSPIRACY.

I wrote the book to stop lies like these.

@AP
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman says in a TV interview that he takes "full responsibility" for the grisly murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, but denies ordering it. http://apne.ws/ujhWVHy


PROOF OF CONSPIRACY EXCERPT 1/ Trump and his team lied to America about their secret phone calls with MBS—which we now know were fraudulently placed in a classified archive to ensure no one would find them—in order to protect the man who had a Washington Post journalist executed:

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PROOF OF CONSPIRACY EXCERPT 2/ Proof of Conspiracy details—day-by-day—a 30-day course of lies to American voters and criminal cover-up that establish beyond any doubt that Trump and his family do not care about the deaths of U.S. journalists. These people are worse than you know.

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PROOF OF CONSPIRACY EXCERPT 3/ I had never written a nonfiction book that included a trigger warning—nor ever *considered* doing so—when I began writing Proof of Conspiracy. But I had to include one on pg. 445 of Proof of Conspiracy because what Trump's friends did was *so* vile:

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PS/ I say this not self-aggrandizingly, but to emphasize that I did the necessary thousands of hours of research to know what I'm speaking of: I'm the only person to write two NYT bestsellers on Trump during his presidency—and I'm telling you history will recall him as a monster.


PS2/ Anyone who's read PROOF OF COLLUSION and PROOF OF CONSPIRACY knows why I say this and agrees—and knows those books are 1,400 pages total, with 6,000+ major-media citations. Those who haven't read the books simply don't understand—even if they think they do—how vile Trump is.


PS3/ We should have, a *long* time ago, understood that America is in a period of national emergency—not a time of simply "increased partisanship." If America understood the emergency we're in, U.S. media wouldn't be giving a Trump co-conspirator a glamorous, hour-long interview.


PS4/ According to The Intercept one man—Rex Tillerson—prevented Trump's pal MBS (who just got a glamorous, hour-long U.S. interview) from *unilaterally making war on Qatar via a ground invasion*. Folks—we have 10,000 troops in Qatar who would've been in the path of that invasion.


PS5/ When MBS found out Tillerson was the one who successfully prevented him from invading a *US ally* that hosts *10,000+ U.S. troops*, he used two top Trump advisers—George Nader and Elliot Broidy—to get Tillerson fired. This man—MBS—is an enemy of the United States of America.
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