BREAKING: Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders

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Postby Dr_Doogie » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:52 am

Kate Dixon wrote:Thank you for this information which you have carefully sourced to KESQ's star reporter. It's too bad they never had a press conference regarding this case where EVERYONE in the press could ask these questions. Instead deputy John Powers has utilized KESQ to let loose only what he chose to let loose, and it appears the rest of the media and public can't get data at all about the current case except from the public file and old material.


It may be that Powers may have spoken with someone in the El Dorado Sheriff Department or District Attorney's Office about your and Virginia's antics during the Phillip Arthur Thompson trial. Based on my discussions with the principals there, it is safe to say that you two are not on their Christmas Card list.

Kate Dixon wrote:Another problem is, why is Heggstad up for conspiracy to murder when he simply was solicited to do the hit, and declined. Did he have some DUTY to report it. Only if he did have some duty -- beyond just being a citizen -- I don't see how he is up for conspiracy to murder.


Actually, isn't Heggstad only listed as a co-conspirator, but NOT under indictment? (i.e. "an unindicted co-conspirator"?)
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Postby compared2what? » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:46 am

Kate Dixon wrote:So, if the data from KSEQ is correct, that would mean that Hughes told the grand jury he was the bag man when in fact he was the trigger man -- why would he tell an incorrect story about it. He was getting immunity for the crime of murder -- so if he was the trigger man, why not say so? He would get the same immunity, and then he would tell the story of who hired him or directed him to do the hit, which I understand was the government in a covert capacity, which ordered this hit.


As we exhaustively established during your last sortie to these parts, you have absolutely no idea what kind of immunity he had, or for what. None. Not any. You are simply making up the terms as you go along, and for no readily apparent or very clearly stated reason.

Please stop doing that. Alternatively, perhaps you do know something about the deal other than what you're inferring out of thin air (plus the premise, which you must know is invalid, come on): That he got the statutory terms he would have gotten if he'd refused a subpoena. If so, please practice what you preach and tell us the details of your knowledge and the manner in which you obtained it. These questions have gone unanswered for too long, it's a disgrace, etcetera.

Also, irrespective of what you do or don't know on the immunity point, please also practice what you preach by doing the same wrt your understanding that the hit was ordered by the government in a covert capacity. How did you come to understand that, exactly?

Thanks.
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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:16 pm

Do you know if that would be this Paul Ryan, AD?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... n21284571/

Man In Charge of a Fantasy, The
Inland Empire Business Journal, Mar 01, 2007 by Lyons, Joe
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Paul Ryan is the general manager of The Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Palm Desert.

He began his career in Atlantic City. In his early '20s he and his brother were running a nightclub when the legal gambling laws were passed in New Jersey. The new growth and development were fascinating to him. He would head down to the boardwalk to watch the giant casinos going up along the shoreline.

When those resorts started to open up, one of his friends who had landed a job at The Golden Nugget kept calling him to ask questions about the business. Just about the time that he and his brother were selling off the night club, the friend asked him to come over as food and beverage director and handle all of those questions directly.

He did.

That is how Paul Ryan began more than 25 years of casino and hotel management experience in Atlantic City, N.J., with such notable corporations as Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, Golden Nugget Hotel Casino, Merv Griffin Hotels and Resorts International.

Since December 2003, Ryan has served as executive vice president of hotel, food and beverage operations for Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc., owner of the 1,250-room Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort, the 728-room Trump Marina Hotel Casino and the 903-room Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino. His duties involved overseeing a staff of 3,000 including six upper-level and six property-level vice presidents.

Ryan became general manager, the top executive officer of Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in March 2006. Ironically, the Spotlight 29 Casino just across the Interstate was called Trump 29 and there was Ryan's ex-boss's face looking down at him.
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Postby American Dream » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:30 pm

Yes- exact same casino- must be the same person.

Atlantic City of course was always very mobbed-up as far as legal gambling goes...
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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:01 pm

Here's a 2001 article:

http://www.joebobbriggs.com/vegasguy/vg20010222.html


.....And the enemies of all these towns are guys like Joe De Rosa, the happiest Italian on the Cabazon Indian Reservation. De Rosa spent 23 years working for Donald Trump, first in Atlantic City, then in Indiana, where he managed the Trump Princess riverboat casino. But a year ago, after Prop 1A passed, the Cabazon Band of Mission Indians made him an offer he couldn't refuse. They told him their goal is simple: they want Fantasy Springs Casino to be the number one destination gambling resort on the west coast. He took the job, moved his family in June, bought a house in nearby La Quinta, and the trucks hauling brand- new slot machines were rolling up to the doors even as he moved into his offices. Since July, the casino has doubled in size.

"I love it here!" he says, the very picture of a portly ward boss from the days of Tammany or Daley. "The Cabazons knew what they wanted, and we hit it off, and I couldn't be happier. Actually most of the people running the larger Indian casinos now are Las Vegas or Atlantic City types like me. I used to work for the guy who runs Soaring Eagle (in Michigan). The managers at Foxwoods (Connecticut) and Mohegan Sun (Connecticut) are friends of mine. And it's because the tribes have decided to do this on their own now. No more management contracts."....
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Postby desertfae » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:48 pm

compared2what? wrote:Alternatively, perhaps you do know something about the deal other than what you're inferring out of thin air

I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt, that KD and VM don't know what is going on with the investigation, and as far as any past deals, they are grabbing stuff out of thin air.
BTW RI, Merry Christmas
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Postby Kate Dixon » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:51 pm

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Kate Dixon wrote:So, if the data from KSEQ is correct, that would mean that Hughes told the grand jury he was the bag man when in fact he was the trigger man -- why would he tell an incorrect story about it. He was getting immunity for the crime of murder -- so if he was the trigger man, why not say so? He would get the same immunity, and then he would tell the story of who hired him or directed him to do the hit, which I understand was the government in a covert capacity, which ordered this hit.


As we exhaustively established during your last sortie to these parts, you have absolutely no idea what kind of immunity he had, or for what. None. Not any. You are simply making up the terms as you go along, and for no readily apparent or very clearly stated reason.

Please stop doing that. Alternatively, perhaps you do know something about the deal other than what you're inferring out of thin air (plus the premise, which you must know is invalid, come on): That he got the statutory terms he would have gotten if he'd refused a subpoena. If so, please practice what you preach and tell us the details of your knowledge and the manner in which you obtained it. These questions have gone unanswered for too long, it's a disgrace, etcetera.

Also, irrespective of what you do or don't know on the immunity point, please also practice what you preach by doing the same wrt your understanding that the hit was ordered by the government in a covert capacity. How did you come to understand that, exactly?

Thanks.


Dear Compared 2, my friend, Hughes has immunity per press reports, per Desertfae, per his own statements. Prior to 1/1/97 there was only TRANSACTIONAL immunity (See statutes) in the State of California. Hughes said words to the effect that it was a government sanctioned covert hit. These are my sources re: the two items you mention above. What are your sources that state my sources are not correct or that contradict my information? ANSWER?????

Based on my own investigation so far, Heggstad now says Hughes offered him the bag money to do the hit and Heggstad said he declined to do the hit. Heggstad denies doing the hit. Now Heggstad is pointing the finger at Hughes saying Hughes did the hit. So simple. Just ask Heggstad, will you? He may answer your call if he not now motorbiking all over Latin America.

John Paul Nichols, son of JPN (deceased) knew all about the money being given to Hughes to be the bag man to give the bag to Heggstad in Idlewyld to do the hit on Alvarez John Paul, a highly intelligent educated guy was a prime advisor and confidant of his own father John Philip Nichols (deceased) who is also named as a conspirator to commit murrder. I don't know any more details about this yet.

So, if you don't like my comments or the sources for my facts so be it.
So far, Newsmakingnews was the FIRST to publish that Hughes was enroute to Riverside from Miami Dade jail, and the FIRST to publish that an amended complaint was filed agianst Hughes making him eligible for the death penalty and thus, having no bail. NMN beat KESQ, Desertfae's press releases and the LA Times and the Desert Sun regarding these two stories, and did a more depth reporting than they did re: these two topics.

I tell you I am just carrying on in the tradition of Gary Webb and Danny Casolaro. I am exposing the so-called Octopus here step by step. I suggest you tune into NMN to find out what is happening in the Hughes case as it happens and for background in the case.

It appears that RI board is just a place for your cheerleaders of the DA, AG and Sheriff to get together and slam anyone who is trying to report any facts or make any comment. All you guys, Chigger and compare2 and Desert want to do is FRY HUGHES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND ELIMINATE AND DESTROY ANYONE WHO WOULD REPORT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT HE SHOULD FRY AND THE DA, AG, AND SHERIFF ARE NICE GUYS. Come on, get a clue.
This complaint versus Hughes is swiss cheese given the immunity issue -- even KSEQ reported recently this was an issue. And the whole case hangs on Heggstand and John Paul Nichols singing like canaries to save themselves and pointing at Hughes. And what credibility to Heggstad and John Paul Nichols have on this matter? Oh, yes the case somehow also rests on Desert's tap of Hughes' statements during a ministry session in Fresno.

It's easy for me to emulate Danny Casolaro and Gary Webb when you guys put your pom poms on and start cheerin' -- because guess what, people believe me NOT YOU. You guys, (except for Desert who did some good work in the past, until she clammed up to help the AG fry Hughes), won't even give your names. Such shy guys. I, on the other hand, give my name, and address, and I am a semi-public person, because i am all over the web. If Danny were alive now, you guys would be 'the same thing to him you are doin' to me. So Merry Christmas. Tune into NMN and learn a thing or two that the mainstream media will not tell you.

O, and to your dear Chigger, if you want to ask me a question about anything re: El Dorado County, please tell me who said what about me, so I can respond. You just post some vague rumor. I don't get that. What does El Dorado County have to do with the Hughe's case anyway?

Also Chigger, this is not an indictment re: Hughes, it is a complaint backed by an affidavit for arrest of Hughes signed by John Powers, deputy sheriff. And Heggstad and John Paul Nichols are not unindicted co-conspirators in an indictment, they are, rather, named as conspirators in the complaint who conpsired to murder Alverez, Boger and Castro, and they have not been arrested as far as I know and as far as the public records show. It is so nice to the people of the State of California to let two guys who are accused of conspiring to execute three people, to go free and walk around. Aren't they dangerous guys? And even if they have immunity, they are still dangerous guys, but the AG couldn't care about protecting the public from them, so let's thier role just hang in the air, for people to speculate about, unless of course, they figure it out.

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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:09 pm

O, and to your dear Chigger, if you want to ask me a question about anything re: El Dorado County, please tell me who said what about me, so I can respond.


Emm, Kate, i don't know what you're talking about.
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Postby Kate Dixon » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:14 pm

chiggerbit wrote:
O, and to your dear Chigger, if you want to ask me a question about anything re: El Dorado County, please tell me who said what about me, so I can respond.


Emm, Kate, i don't know what you're talking about.


Dear Chiggerbit: Let me apologize. That stuff about El Dorado County was written by Dr. Doogie. Soo sorry, and thanks for pointing out the error.

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Postby Dr_Doogie » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:29 pm

Somehow, I suspect that Gary Webb and Danny Casalaro are spinning in their graves, as is Mae Brussel.

I do not know if Hughes is guilty as charged, guilty of something or as pure as the new-fallen snow, though I do have my suspicions. What I do know is that this is merely the beginning of a long process where issues such as immunity will be sorted out in a court of law - if your claims are correct, then Hughes may very well be sunning himself in Honduras by next Christmas. I am willing to let the courts run their course to discover the truth.

BTW: It was I, not Chigger, that made the comment about El Dorado County and their prosecution of Thompson. My point is that their general opinion of both you and Virginia is that you are not journalists, but are advocates with an agressive agenda for certain factions hiding behind the facade of "hard jornalism". I only bring up their opinions is because you were whining that Powers and Riverside are not feeding you info when past history elsewhere has shown that cooperating with you only leads to you two trying to torpedo the prosecution. And if you think that this is harsh, reread Virginia's email communication on your own site with (then DA candidate) Vern Pearson and how she tried to influence the prosecution of Thompson. Journalists report the truth - advocates try to influence the outcomes by manipulation the data towards a predetermined outcome.
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Postby desertfae » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:45 pm

Kate Dixon wrote:Dear Compared 2, my friend, Hughes has immunity per press reports, per Desertfae, per his own statements. Prior to 1/1/97 there was only TRANSACTIONAL immunity (See statutes) in the State of California. Hughes said words to the effect that it was a government sanctioned covert hit. These are my sources re: the two items you mention above. What are your sources that state my sources are not correct or that contradict my information? ANSWER?????

Kate, you obviously are again twisting things. What did I say in my interview? Go back to that and LISTEN this time.

Kate Dixon wrote:Based on my own investigation so far, Heggstad now says Hughes offered him the bag money to do the hit and Heggstad said he declined to do the hit. Heggstad denies doing the hit. Now Heggstad is pointing the finger at Hughes saying Hughes did the hit. So simple. Just ask Heggstad, will you? He may answer your call if he not now motorbiking all over Latin America.

Ok, so again, you and VM are attempting to interfere. It's pretty obvious by what you have just said.

Kate Dixon wrote:John Paul Nichols, son of JPN (deceased) knew all about the money being given to Hughes to be the bag man to give the bag to Heggstad in Idlewyld to do the hit on Alvarez John Paul, a highly intelligent educated guy was a prime advisor and confidant of his own father John Philip Nichols (deceased) who is also named as a conspirator to commit murrder. I don't know any more details about this yet.

and where did you get this info from?

Kate Dixon wrote:So, if you don't like my comments or the sources for my facts so be it.
So far, Newsmakingnews was the FIRST to publish that Hughes was enroute to Riverside from Miami Dade jail, and the FIRST to publish that an amended complaint was filed agianst Hughes making him eligible for the death penalty and thus, having no bail. NMN beat KESQ, Desertfae's press releases and the LA Times and the Desert Sun regarding these two stories, and did a more depth reporting than they did re: these two topics.

Real news agencies have to vet their info before reporting it to avoid lawsuits, instead of just printing whatever they may want to pull out of thin air, or their opinions, guesses or whatever. NMN is NOT a real news agency, and in the past has speculated on multiple things, including me being an 'actress' LOL

Kate Dixon wrote:I tell you I am just carrying on in the tradition of Gary Webb and Danny Casolaro. I am exposing the so-called Octopus here step by step. I suggest you tune into NMN to find out what is happening in the Hughes case as it happens and for background in the case.

Folks, 'tune' into NMN for lies, guesses, bias opinions and info on how they attempt to interfere in multiple cases. lol

Kate Dixon wrote:It appears that RI board is just a place for your cheerleaders of the DA, AG and Sheriff to get together and slam anyone who is trying to report any facts or make any comment. All you guys, Chigger and compare2 and Desert want to do is FRY HUGHES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND ELIMINATE AND DESTROY ANYONE WHO WOULD REPORT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT HE SHOULD FRY AND THE DA, AG, AND SHERIFF ARE NICE GUYS. Come on, get a clue.

See my above comment for what I think of NMN and how you and VM "report facts". Wow, you sure sound like the "Hughes camp" that have been emailing me threats and abusive type things. You know, being Christian is a "get out of jail free card" according to the Hughes camp.
Hey, that's an idea, lets all do whatever we want because hey, if we accept God's forgiveness it's a free for all LOL. (disclaimer- I'm not really suggesting anyone do anything illegal at all, I'm being sarcastic).

Kate Dixon wrote:This complaint versus Hughes is swiss cheese given the immunity issue -- even KSEQ reported recently this was an issue. And the whole case hangs on Heggstand and John Paul Nichols singing like canaries to save themselves and pointing at Hughes. And what credibility to Heggstad and John Paul Nichols have on this matter? Oh, yes the case somehow also rests on Desert's tap of Hughes' statements during a ministry session in Fresno.

You have no idea what is going on in this case (even from a legal standpoint), it's no wonder you were disbarred. It sure sounds to me like you're trying to help Hughes... surprise, surprise... isn't this exactly what you guys did with PAT?

Kate Dixon wrote:It's easy for me to emulate Danny Casolaro and Gary Webb when you guys put your pom poms on and start cheerin' -- because guess what, people believe me NOT YOU.

A little full of yourself there eh Kate?

Kate Dixon wrote:You guys, (except for Desert who did some good work in the past, until she clammed up to help the AG fry Hughes), won't even give your names. Such shy guys. I, on the other hand, give my name, and address, and I am a semi-public person, because i am all over the web. If Danny were alive now, you guys would be 'the same thing to him you are doin' to me. So Merry Christmas. Tune into NMN and learn a thing or two that the mainstream media will not tell you.

OH WOW, is that 'almost' a compliment? hahahahaha. You don't know me, or what I am doing at all. Again, more of your opinion that you're trying to pass off as fact.
As for how you're treating others on RI, they see through what you and VM are doing, and you just don't like it. Get over yourself, you're not nearly as big as you think you are.
Oh and Merry Christmas to you too Kate lol. Tis the season to interfere in cases, report guesses, opinions, and not check facts, and put down others that don't agree with you.. oh, and help criminals.

Kate Dixon wrote:O, and to your dear Chigger, if you want to ask me a question about anything re: El Dorado County, please tell me who said what about me, so I can respond. You just post some vague rumor. I don't get that. What does El Dorado County have to do with the Hughe's case anyway?

Doogie, I think you got Kate so flustered here that she decided to blame Chigger lol

Kate Dixon wrote:Also Chigger, this is not an indictment re: Hughes, it is a complaint backed by an affidavit for arrest of Hughes signed by John Powers, deputy sheriff. And Heggstad and John Paul Nichols are not unindicted co-conspirators in an indictment, they are, rather, named as conspirators in the complaint who conpsired to murder Alverez, Boger and Castro, and they have not been arrested as far as I know and as far as the public records show. It is so nice to the people of the State of California to let two guys who are accused of conspiring to execute three people, to go free and walk around. Aren't they dangerous guys? And even if they have immunity, they are still dangerous guys, but the AG couldn't care about protecting the public from them, so let's thier role just hang in the air, for people to speculate about, unless of course, they figure it out.

Kate Dixon

You're contradicting yourself Kate.. first, you act like you want to help Heggstad and like he's innocent, then you turn around and call him dangerous... which is it Kate? Tell us how you really feel lol
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Postby desertfae » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:47 pm

Dr_Doogie wrote:Somehow, I suspect that Gary Webb and Danny Casalaro are spinning in their graves, as is Mae Brussel.

I do not know if Hughes is guilty as charged, guilty of something or as pure as the new-fallen snow, though I do have my suspicions. What I do know is that this is merely the beginning of a long process where issues such as immunity will be sorted out in a court of law - if your claims are correct, then Hughes may very well be sunning himself in Honduras by next Christmas. I am willing to let the courts run their course to discover the truth.

BTW: It was I, not Chigger, that made the comment about El Dorado County and their prosecution of Thompson. My point is that their general opinion of both you and Virginia is that you are not journalists, but are advocates with an agressive agenda for certain factions hiding behind the facade of "hard jornalism". I only bring up their opinions is because you were whining that Powers and Riverside are not feeding you info when past history elsewhere has shown that cooperating with you only leads to you two trying to torpedo the prosecution. And if you think that this is harsh, reread Virginia's email communication on your own site with (then DA candidate) Vern Pearson and how she tried to influence the prosecution of Thompson. Journalists report the truth - advocates try to influence the outcomes by manipulation the data towards a predetermined outcome.

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Postby Kate Dixon » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:00 pm

Dr_Doogie wrote:Somehow, I suspect that Gary Webb and Danny Casalaro are spinning in their graves, as is Mae Brussel.

I do not know if Hughes is guilty as charged, guilty of something or as pure as the new-fallen snow, though I do have my suspicions. What I do know is that this is merely the beginning of a long process where issues such as immunity will be sorted out in a court of law - if your claims are correct, then Hughes may very well be sunning himself in Honduras by next Christmas. I am willing to let the courts run their course to discover the truth.

BTW: It was I, not Chigger, that made the comment about El Dorado County and their prosecution of Thompson. My point is that their general opinion of both you and Virginia is that you are not journalists, but are advocates with an agressive agenda for certain factions hiding behind the facade of "hard jornalism". I only bring up their opinions is because you were whining that Powers and Riverside are not feeding you info when past history elsewhere has shown that cooperating with you only leads to you two trying to torpedo the prosecution. And if you think that this is harsh, reread Virginia's email communication on your own site with (then DA candidate) Vern Pearson and how she tried to influence the prosecution of Thompson. Journalists report the truth - advocates try to influence the outcomes by manipulation the data towards a predetermined outcome.


First of all some of what you are saying is directed at Virginia McCullough and you will have to talk to her, direct your posts to her if it is about her.Her email address is public on NMN.

As for me, I am not whining that Powers and Riverside DA or the AG are not giving me information, because, guess what? I never called them or wrote them asking them for info. I am however whining or complaining that 1) they did not have a public press conference which I would have attended or that they didn't issue a press release, and that 2) two co-conspirators to commit a triple execution are walking around, as free men, without any explanation from the authorities as to the danger to the public.

I understand you are now talking about the El Dorado prosecution of Phillip Arthur Thompson for the murder of Betty Cloer in 1971. I cannot speak for McCullough on this at all. I just don't know. I published what she wrote becauase it was true and accurate. As for me, the DA and Sheriff's other authorites in El Dorado County NEVER cooperated with me in any way or gave me any information, that they did not give the public at large or the media at large.

My role as a member of the alernative press was reported on by the Mountain Democrat in a fair and accurate way. It is public and some is in the court records and in testimony. I had absolutely no influence on the prosecution of Phillip Arthur Thompson. He had a capable lawyer and investigator who were nice to me, but couldn't care less what my opinion was, and Phillip Arthur Thompson has a mind of his own, and also couldn't care less. The defense and the DA's office and others relatd to them were all gagged. So, I got my information from the trial itself, the case files and public files, and I published from what I obtained. I don't care if you think what I published was for Thompson or against him -- who cares. I published information and each reader has his or her own perception. I must say however that DA Pierson is very clumsy, arrogant and nasty with the press and media then, and now he is the same again with media regarding the Jaycee Dugard case because he is covering up that one, and he is also attempt to take away the lawyer from Mrs. Garrido because of an allegation about the media contacting the lawyer, somehow -- it is all coming across as dirty pool, when it would seem he has a clear cut case against the Garrido's.

One DA in El Dorado, Ms. Ashcroft, was very fair to me and the press and public during the Richard William Hamlin trial, and that really paid off for her-- getting her better coverage and ultimately she had good coverage on TV major media. There was no gag in the Hamlin case either. It was all handled professionally, of course Pearon was not the DA.

In the Hughes case, the way they are handling the press is to only put out one story -- how Desertfae and John Powers were brilliant investigators who broke the case open. That's the only story they put out and they put it out over and over. That's the only official information given to anyone. Oh, I forgot one thing -- They also had KESQ, film Hughes being booked, which was clearly an attempt to mortify him in front of cameras -- it was a really sick sick film to show him going through each inch of the booking process, a very long perp walk INSIDE INSIDE, I REPEAT, INSIDE THE FACILITY,SO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD CAN SEE THE FACILITY AND ITS LACK OF SECURITY. YES, they are so stupid, they showed the entire world their sheriff dep't process, and blew any security they hope to maintain regarding it. Just outright sadism to give a couple of freaks out there, (WHO enjoys watching this?) some cheap thrills. I personally don't like to see mortification -- a brief walk in handcuffs up to the courthouse or to the steps of the jail house is enough for me to see -- that's enough perp walk, and all that is really allowed in the civilized world outside of Riverside County's Sheriff Dept. It makes you wonder who is running the Hughes case. In the film, Powers completely enjoyed himself, smiling, preening, almost laughing at times at the camera as he processed the defendant, taking off the layers of cuffs (gees I didn't know they had all that stuff?) and then having the defendant try to keep his pants up without a belt on -- the whole booking process for all the world to see, up to the point, where they start stripping him down of his outergarments and some kind of security device around his chest. I can't believe Deputy AG Murphy wanted that sadistic gloating booking film out there. It is a first -- Alfred Hitchcock style psyho stuff. God, they are making a real movie and book out of this as they go along, aren't they?

In the Garrido case up in El Dorado County re: Jayce Dugard torture, the DA is making an issue out of a defense lawyer allegedly being contact by someone seeking to do some media book or film (I am vauge on these details -- they are in the Sacto Bee, Co Co Times for your review.)

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Postby Dr_Doogie » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:20 pm

At the risk of going way off-topic: Nancy Garrido's attorney issues revolve around an alleged "drunken boast" made by Gilbert Maines made while having drinks at a local country club. As far as any press reports that I have seen, it did not involve him being approached by a third party trying to set up a book or movie deal, though, I admit, I may have missed that detail.

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Postby Kate Dixon » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:36 pm

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quote="Dr_Doogie"]At the risk of going way off-topic: Nancy Garrido's attorney issues revolve around an alleged "drunken boast" made by Gilbert Maines made while having drinks at a local country club. As far as any press reports that I have seen, it did not involve him being approached by a third party trying to set up a book or movie deal, though, I admit, I may have missed that detail.

BTW: If you attend any of the hearings and want to put a face and name to my screen name, look for the big bald guy with the goatee - that would be me.
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Yo! I will look for you! I think you are right about the "drunken" boast part. I think part of Maines' defense was that he was contacted by other media looking to do books/movies and he turned them down. This thing is still going on. It will be interesting to see how it pl

Remember how James Earl Ray paid his defense lawyer by pledging money from a book about Ray to him? In the olden days this happened a lot. But I believe the fact Ray promised this to the lawyer was it used later in appeals.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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