Mass Shooting in California

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

I get the impression IF he did ever talk to any girls it went EXACTLY like this "Hey Im Elliot, my dad worked on Hunger Games, see that car over there, that is my BMW, this sweater I am wearing is Prada cost me five hundred bucks, see these sunglasses....etc etc"


Of course girls are gonna be creeped out and people will mock him and I think that is exactly how he did it.

I live in the American Gardens Building on West 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is Elliot Rodgers. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There is an idea of a Elliot Rodgers. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.

[jlaw172364]

Funny you mention that from American Psycho, Zombie Glenn Beck; his Youtube persona definitely evoked Bateman. I'm sure he'd seen the film.

[chump]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssta0_4GkRA

As a guy who has been married for nearly 2/3rds of my life, I can hardly relate to this bullshit despair and pseudo-psychology.

The media is always promoting something!

There are over forty murders - every day in this country - including drive-bys... So, why are they focusing on this one??

I'm not even paying attention, but couldn't help but to notice an emotionally charged spew by a victim's father for gun control and mental health initiatives, the supposed shooter's pre-loaded interminable rambling manifesto, and a shitty psychiatrist 'splainin' wimpy mens' mental health 'issues' for fifteen minutes this morning on national 'news'. The medias' behavior, the multiple reports of two shooters in the car, the fact that the shooter was already in a psychiatrist's care - and the sheriff had visited with him 3 times this month, suggest to me that - rather than a randum shooting by a lone nut twerp - this event is more likely a Sunstein-esgue psy-op to influence mental health and gun control legislation in the US.

Drills?

This is not to say 'no one was killed', btw. Some of the victims may have even been specifically targeted?? For instance, this very possibly happened in Littleton and Aurora, and almost definitely in the DC Sniper case.

From a historical perspective, it seems some sect may be systematically seizing control of our country, via an evolution of the same propaganda and terror techniques employed for decades, if not centuries, against governments and people all over the World!

Tricky bunch!

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http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-is ... a/26152454

The time frame between the first 911 call to the discovery of the dead suspect was ten minutes.

Multiple witnesses say they saw two people inside the suspect's vehicle, however, during the press conference, Sheriff Brown would neither confirm nor deny whether there was a passenger in the car.

At this time, the sheriff is not releasing the suspect's name, although he has been identified.

Brown called the suspect "severely mentally disturbed" and said, "This was a premeditated mass murder."

Word on the street quickly spread about an ominous YouTube video posted by a young man who identified himself as Elliot Rodger, titled "Retribution." The nearly seven minute long rant blasts women who've ignored or rejected him over the past eight years and warns that he will "punish you all for it."

When questioned about the video during the news conference, Sheriff Brown indicated investigators were familiar with it and are looking into whether Roger was connected with the crime.

The victims include someone who was shot dead inside the I.V. Delimart on Pardall Road. The market windows are pocked with bullet holes. Another crime scene is marked near the 7-11 convenience store.

Xavier Mozejewski told NewsChannel 3 reporter Victoria Sanchez that he witnessed some of the violence and described it as an "old western shoot-out."

Michael Vitak, a student from the Czech Republic, told Sanchez what he witnessed.

"Guys in a BMW. Maybe they were trying to prove they're tough," Vitak said during a live televised interview. Vitak saw them shooting at two girls; one was shot dead, the other was critically hurt.

"I heard shots, screams, pain," said Vitak. "All emotions. I hope she is going to be fine," he said.

Vitak said it was too dark to see the suspects' faces.

About the same time the drive-by shootings occurred, the California Highway Patrol website logged a hit and run along Del Playa that left someone with major leg and head trauma.

NewsChannel 3 senior reporter John Palminteri said via phone, "It is a horrible scene out here."

Palminteri described multiple ambulances, a black BMW that slammed into as many as two cars, and a body covered with a yellow tarp lying in the road on Del Playa. He indicated the deceased may have been shot by a deputy or police officer.

By 12:15 a.m. Saturday morning, Palminteri updated viewers that he'd seen a total of four body bags.

One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"'

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http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/05/un ... lings.html
California Psyop Elliot Rodger

Sunday, 25 May 2014
CALIFORNIA PSYOP - ELLIOT RODGER
Elliot Roger, who is reported to have killed 6 people in California. (Mary Cummins)

There were two men in the black BMW used in the shootings blamed on Elliot Rodger.

"One woman, identified as Sierra, told NewsChannel 3 that she was approached by two men in a black BMW."

http://rt.com/usa/161268-california-sho ... y-wounded/

Many witnesses saw two people in the black BMW.

http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-is ... a/26152454.

"Kelly Hoover, public information officer with the Sheriff’s office, confirmed that a second suspect has been apprehended."

http://rt.com/usa/161268-california-sho ... y-wounded/

Santa Barbara Shooting – Phony “Motive Video” Up for at Least 4 Days Prior to Shooting.


One of the many photos of bottoms made by Elliot Rodger's father.

Elliot Roger's mother is Lichin Rodger, nee Ong Li Chin, a nurse, born in Malaysian.


Lichin and her daughter Georgia

Elliot has a half-brother named Jazz born 2007 to his step mother Soumaya Akaaboune.

Soumaya was born in Morocco and is a French actress known for being on the French version of "The Real Housewives." ...

... (Meanwhile in Belgium, a Man has been detained after the Jewish Museum shooting in Brussels)

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http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2014/ ... tings.html
comments:

Orange said...
How is this for threads of coincidence.

The Isla Vista shooter was the son of an assistant director of the Hunger Games. The author of that novel lives at ... Sandy Hook, the cite of another infamous mass killing.

From wiki: "As the child of a US Air Force officer, Collins, born in Connecticut in 1962, ...Collins's father, who lectured in military history at West Point, left to serve in Vietnam when she was six and returned traumatised. The family was later posted to Brussels ..."

David Ray Carter said...
I feel it may be important that former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano left her post to be the President of the U of California system,and is currently making the TV News circuit discussing the shooting.

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http://signofthetimes.yuku.com/topic/15 ... 4QKiCg_WZ4
starviego said:

5-23-14 Isla Vista, Santa Barbara, CA Elliot Rodger, 22 Car Rampage 7 dead, 7 wounded

killed
Cheng Yuan Hong, 20
George Chen, 19
Weihan Wang, 20
Katherine Breann Cooper, 22
Veronika Weiss, 19
Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez, 20

13 wounded
8 by gunfire
4 via car
1 other

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/05/24/san ... sb-campus/
Gunfire erupted shortly before 9:30 p.m. in Isla Vista, Calif., an area near the UC Santa Barbara Campus and about 100 miles north of Los Angeles. A shooter fired dozens of shots while driving and walking through the area, leaving behind “a very chaotic series” of nine crime scenes spread across Isla Vista, (Sheriff)Brown said. ... about 10 minutes passed between the time the first call came to 911 and the moment the shooter was found dead.

The suspect Elliot Rodger began his rampage by stabbing two roommates and a visitor to death in his apartment.

This latest shooting has all the hallmarks of being another manipulated shooting event:


TWO GUNMEN

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/05/24/san ... sb-campus/
Multiple witnesses say that they saw two people inside of the suspect’s BMW. However, (Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown) would neither confirm nor deny whether there was a passenger in the car with the shooter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... a-barbara/
Though local media outlets said witnesses reported seeing a passenger in the car, authorities are not looking for any other suspects and believe that this shooter acted alone

http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/ar ... 9294309402
Two suspects in a black BMW reportedly opened fire indiscriminately throughout Isla Vista on Friday night in a rampage that left at least three dead before their car crashed on Del Playa Drive...

http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-is ... a/26152454
Michael Vitak, a student from the Czech Republic, told (NewsChanne 3 reporter Victoria )Sanchez what he witnessed.
"Guys in a BMW. Maybe they were trying to prove they're tough"
--One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdW9gYoYzB0
One woman identified as Sierra told Sanchez she was approached by two men in a black BMW. The driver flashed a small black handgun and asked '"Hey, what's up?"'

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... tml#page=1
Kevin de Bree... he saw a black BMW pull up to the 7-Eleven. It looked like someone was leaning out of the car, and there was such chaos that De Bree at first thought there must’ve been two people in the BMW.

NBC Los Angeles
Alexander Mattera, 23, added: "We heard so many gunshots, it was unbelievable. I thought they were firecrackers. There had to have been at least like two guns. There were a lot of shots."

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/ma ... sla-vista/
One of the suspects was also reportedly killed, and another is in custody.
--The third crime scene visited by Hayden was the 7-11 in the new Isla Vista Icon development. Two men in handcuffs were being questioned there in full view of a small crowd. That crowd cheered when one of them was put inside the law enforcement vehicle around 11:25 p.m. Officials said the men had refused orders to stay out of the crime scene areas.
Anecdotal yet unconfirmed reports from the Isla Vista streets suggest that the vehicle involved was a black BMW with a passenger shooting a handgun.
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FEDS

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justice/c ... ?hpt=hp_t1
U.S. law enforcement officials said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and FBI were assisting local police in the investigation....

http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=134751
The Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office is being assisted by... criminalists from the Department of Justice crime lab.

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FOREKNOWLEDGE?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... a-barbara/
--Police already had a beefed up law-enforcement presence in Isla Vista on Friday night, Brown said. The area is known for its partying.... As a result, there were more officers in Isla Vista than there would have been on another night of the week, he said.

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THE SHRINKS

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ed-3603730
Yesterday his dad’s attorney, Alan Schifman, said Rodger had been seeing “multiple ­therapists”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... house.html
Mr Astaire said he'd been seeing therapists on and off since he was 8 years old and during high school met with one 'pretty much every day.'

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... in-hiding/
It seemed that Elliot suffered from extreme paranoia and heard voices, but it was impossible to properly diagnose because he just wouldn’t talk.


Rodger was living in an ordinary apartment building, but other reports had him living in a group home, indicative of some kind of official diagnosis:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/ ... shootings/
Rodger was living with roommates at the Independent Living Institute in Santa Barbara, a facility that offers “living skills instruction to help adults with disabilities to live more independently in their communities,” according to the website.

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IN GAME

http://livingwiththenoondaydemon.wordpr ... ot-rodger/
Around this time(when the suspect was 16 or 17), Elliot becomes obsessed with the game World of Warcraft.

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AUTOMATIC?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... tml#page=1
...At first, the gunshots sounded like they were coming from a handgun – there were a lot of “loud bangs,” De Bree said. “But later, I distinctly remembering thinking ‘that was definitely an automatic weapon.‘ I heard like 20 shots in a row.”

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THE LOOK?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/0 ... a-rampage/
(Witness Dylan Fontillas) didn’t know any of the victims, or the shooter, but said the look on Rodger’s face is something he won’t forget.
“He was almost smiling, like he was happy about what was going on. It was very chilling. I’ll remember that face for a long time,” Fontillas told KPIX 5.

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THE AFTERMATH

http://www.smh.com.au/world/elliot-rodg ... zrnux.html[/url]
US Senator Richard Blumenthal said on Sunday he wanted to revive the gun control legislation that was rejected by Congress in the wake of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in Connecticut, saying it could have helped prevent the weekend's tragedy.
Mr Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, told CBS's Face the Nation program the legislation, which failed last year, could be revised to emphasis the mental condition of potential gun buyers.

[jlaw172364]

@chump

Well, it could be MIHOP or a LIHOP, or neither, but in any case, they have the ball and they're running with it. People are using it to attack MRA / TRP / PUA / Gun Rights etc. Why waste a good crisis, eh?

[Luther Blissett]

I don't think he was impotent - we get detailed descriptions of his masturbation habits in his manifesto.

[Hunter]

Ha so there was already a higher than normal police presence there before the shooting, sort of like...drills?

I really want to know more about the second guy in car, a lot of people saying they saw two.

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Ha so there was already a higher than normal police presence there before the shooting, sort of like...drills?

I really want to know more about the second guy in car, a lot of people saying they saw two.

Did people actually see two, or did the police just hear multiple reports of shootings in different areas and draw the conclusion that there were two?

[BrandonD]

Ha so there was already a higher than normal police presence there before the shooting, sort of like...drills?

I really want to know more about the second guy in car, a lot of people saying they saw two.

Did people actually see two, or did the police just hear multiple reports of shootings in different areas and draw the conclusion that there were two?

I definitely read eyewitness reports in the initial reports where people said they saw a second person in his car. I don't believe there were any reports of a "second shooter", just another passenger in his car.

[82_28]

Ha so there was already a higher than normal police presence there before the shooting, sort of like...drills?

I really want to know more about the second guy in car, a lot of people saying they saw two.

Did people actually see two, or did the police just hear multiple reports of shootings in different areas and draw the conclusion that there were two?

I definitely read eyewitness reports in the initial reports where people said they saw a second person in his car. I don't believe there were any reports of a "second shooter", just another passenger in his car.

I think that's the deal and where the questions about this come from.

I was hypnotized once by a therapist and I didn't feel right for a week. Hypnosis, I discovered, actually works. I always thought it was bullshit until I actually did get hypnotized. There just remains something unfamiliar within your brain.

[BrandonD]

I think that's the deal and where the questions about this come from.

I was hypnotized once by a therapist and I didn't feel right for a week. Hypnosis, I discovered, actually works. I always thought it was bullshit until I actually did get hypnotized. There just remains something unfamiliar within your brain.

This may be derailing the thread, but I would be extremely interested to hear more about your hypnotism experience. I've wanted to be hypnotized for many years to experience what it's like, but I've not yet met anyone whom I feel is competent and also trustworthy.

[IanEye]

You are aware, of course, that there is a difference between doubting the official version of events and concocting an entirely new narrative based upon faulty or incomplete data?

I am aware that people that tell me my anger toward hoaxers is misdirected can go fuck themselves.

[82_28]

I think that's the deal and where the questions about this come from.

I was hypnotized once by a therapist and I didn't feel right for a week. Hypnosis, I discovered, actually works. I always thought it was bullshit until I actually did get hypnotized. There just remains something unfamiliar within your brain.

This may be derailing the thread, but I would be extremely interested to hear more about your hypnotism experience. I've wanted to be hypnotized for many years to experience what it's like, but I've not yet met anyone whom I feel is competent and also trustworthy.

I think the thing is is that I didn't actually realize I was being hypnotized during the hypnosis process. He told me it was just a relaxation technique. It took about an hour of effort on his part. My brain/mind, my "self" fought it tooth and nail. Something in my brain detected something wrong and would have none of it. Yet I relented to his "expert" credentials through I guess a false sense of trust (that cost $100 an hour as it was). You are "there" after you've been hypnotized, just that something in my brain alerted me for a good week or so, maybe less, that something was off in my normal thought processes and again, something within me fought it to go away. My wake self recognized the anomaly at the time of hypnosis and battled it as being a product of not of its doing. However, it works. It's kind of akin maybe to a computer's buffering process. If you are a highly suggestible person and young I can totally see where this could control the fuck out of you.

The outcome for me didn't work because I fought it as the sensation was alien. I guess I am more of a student of my own brain and not a victim of it, though YMMV. Again, I can totally see with weekly or whatever timeframe intense sessions of this could completely control a wounded unit.

[jlaw172364]

@BrandonD

Get a book on self-hypnosis. Read it. Make a hypnotic script for yourself. Record yourself reading it. Play it for yourself. Congratulations, you've been hypnotized.

One of the more influential theorists proposed that nobody can hypnotize you except for yourself. You have to agree to the hypnotist's suggestions. All suggestion is ultimately auto-suggestion. An outside hypnotist can say words to you, but if you don't adopt them and auto-suggest them to yourself, if you sit there thinking "This is bullshit!" the entire time, you won't be hypnotized.

I know this works. I used it to quit smoking, although I didn't know what I was doing at the time. Later, I did it consciously, and I was able to at the very least, induce a state of relaxation. There are people that post hypnosis videos on youtube that cover any number of subjects.

One way of looking ER, is that he perpetually was hypnotizing himself with self-destructive false beliefs, beliefs that he developed a strong emotional attachment to, even though they ultimately led to an atrocity.

[elfismiles]

Did people actually see two, or did the police just hear multiple reports of shootings in different areas and draw the conclusion that there were two?

I've seen video of witness interviews saying there were "men in the car" and read witnesses quoted saying same.

EDIT: here is the male witness mentioning the possibility of multiple people in the car... EDIT: this vid is excerpted from the KEYT.com news coverage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2n8NBs_IW0

EDIT: and from the link on page one of this thread is the KEYT.com news coverage where they state right out of the gate "Witnesses say a BMW with 2 people inside had people open fire..."

http://www.keyt.com/news/shooting-in-is ... a/26152454

HERE IS THAT VIDEO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3dCGHJZt9g

Reporter mentions multiple witnesses again mentioning 2 people in car @3:45 mark: "we heard at least 2 people in a black BMW..." and @4:09 mark "however, many witnesses are telling us 2 people in a black BMW were shooting out of a car as they were driving..."

[elfismiles]

At the 1 minute 37 second mark reporter asks PIO "we've heard that there were 2 suspects..." and of course the PIO dodges this but does use the word "suspects" in passing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ3PgN8-TkI#t=1m37s