Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:48 am

Nordic » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:00 pm wrote:
solace » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:32 pm wrote:Innocent people usually deny stuff they didn't do. You hear any Isis denials? There's a reason for that.


You mean how Osama bin Laden asserted he didn't do the 9/11 attacks? I'm sure that's what you mean.


Well we can debate if this or that video is "staged", but are we really doubting mass amounts of people are being slaughtered in Iraq, Syria and Libya? And if not just by IS, than by the Syrians, al Nursra, Obama/Arab coalition airstrikes. As we've been told, this whole shebang is going to heat up big time by the spring time into all out war.

Let's say bin Laden really was killed(which I believe) by Seals 6. If they had published the photo(which they should have) a lot of people would call it fake.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:06 am

solace wrote:Innocent people usually deny stuff they didn't do. You hear any Isis denials? There's a reason for that.


Solace, please. Don't make me hurt myself. Yes, dear: ISIS is very, very bad, fiendish, satanic, beyond the imagination of any sane person. It has taken over large parts of Arab countries, and plunged their populations into hell, and destroyed everything in its path, including all the irreplaceable documents, monuments and artifacts that record their history and their roots in those lands going back thousands of years. It is slashing and burning to erase the rich cultural and religious diversity that has existed since the dawn of time, and to enslave the survivors in a hopeless, featureless wasteland. It is stealing all their wealth, and leaving them to starve.

There's no disagreement about that. The question is, what is ISIS? Or is it ISIL? Or its latest name, "IS"? As in "ISrael"? All these sleazy, puerile insider jokes and coy hints... Hiding in plain sight. On the other hand, their contempt for people's intelligence is clearly well justified among certain willfully blind and/or ignorant and or drugged or entranced populations.

ISIS Jihadists Copying From Zionism
Monday, December 22, 2014 | Aviel Schneider


The reasons ISIS has been so much more successful than groups like Al Qaeda in attracting recruits is because it is following a model not dissimilar from how Zionism continues to attract Jews to make aliyah to Israel.

That was the conclusion of a recent study by Israeli expert Yigal Carmon, founder of the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), which since 1998 has been monitoring and providing translations of regional media.

“Al Qaeda glorifies holy war against the West alone,” noted Carmon. “ISIS members belong to a younger generation that realizes it has little change of a terrorist war against the West. So, instead of focusing on the West [an external enemy], they call for the establishment of a caliphate.”

Carmon, who was an advisor on counter-terrorism to former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, explained:

“The jihadists in Syria and northern Iraq convince Muslims in the West, mainly young people, to leave their country and to renounce all prosperity to fight for an Islamic state. They are persuaded that they do not belong in Europe. Because they are Muslims, they would have to return to their true home, which lies in the Middle East.”

Even before the establishment of the State of Israel, Zionism took a similar approach, calling on young Jews to leave the countries to which they didn’t truly belong and immigrate to their true homeland.

Carmon noted that ISIS and others have been using the word “immigration” in calling for recruits to join the caliphate. Israel Today*


*Israel Today is a right-wing Israeli newspaper with the largest circulation of any newspaper in Israel. It is distributed free of charge, and is financed entirely by US billionaire Sheldon Adelson. More about this very interesting newspaper here.


Is ISIS "Muslim"? Its leader, Abu Bakr al-Boghdadi, proclaims his intention to destroy the Kaaba, the holiest shrine in Islam, its spiritual center. He and his followers misquote the Quran, every word, indeed every letter of which is holy to all Muslims, handed down intact and unchangeable from God Himself. He declares that he has written "a new Quran", because the old one is wrong. He and his followers grossly, gleefully violate the most sacred principles of Islam, commit the most disgusting, revolting atrocities, publicize them using resources that a global PR firm would envy, and label this grotesque parody "Islam". With very, very few spectacular but rare exceptions, ISIS kills and robs only Arabs and Muslims. They have an endless supply of brand new weapons of every kind, and of ammunition, all from the US. They have an endless supply of money, all from Qatar, a country that is militarily occupied by, and under the absolute control of, the US/Israel. Their logistics center is in Turkey, NATO's center of operations for the Middle East. It has never, ever attacked Israel. Ever. Not even verbally. Even as the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque were being sadistically invaded and desecrated by Jewish fanatics and the Israeli army, ISIS continued its relentless rampage against Muslims and Arabs in a parallel that few in the region have missed.

ISIS has generously solved Israel's fuel shortage, by stealing Iraqi and Syrian oil and sending it to Turkey, which in turn sends it to Israel. Israel takes what it needs and sells the rest to Europe, at a big profit. Israeli bombing raids into Lebanon and Syria always target the forces fighting ISIS, never ISIS itself. ISIS is everything Zionists always said Muslims were: it's a walking, talking caricature embodying every Zionist defamation and racist lie. It's Hollywood-based "reality tv" taken to a whole new level.

Over and over, in Iraq, Libya, Syria, ISIS was implanted in those Arab territories that were first bombed and invaded by US-led forces, which specifically targeted those countries' armies, police, judiciary, and governments so that the people there were helpless and had no sovereign state to defend them.

It's no accident that the one country in which ISIS (in all its forms) has been solidly defeated despite truly gargantuan efforts and resources to implant it, is Egypt. It also happens to be the one country that was not first invaded and bombed by the US and its allies. We passed through some hairy times, but we were able to resist by uniting and rallying around our national institutions, especially our army, police, judiciary, our national religious establishments, and our government, all of which remained more or less intact. Most importantly, our armed forces remained not only intact, but were actually built up, but stealthily, under the radar of our enemies. The bombardment and pounding and foreign invaders of Iraq, Libya and Syria deprived their people of the chance to prevent the catastrophe that followed. Mind you, its a testament to the great Iraqi, Libyan and Syrian people that they haven't given up, far from it, and are heroically fighting back. Alone.

But not for long. The tide is turning, big time. As I said before, Israel and its US "patron" have overplayed their hand, leading to results that are the exact opposite of what they intended. The united, heartfelt prayers of our people across the region and the world are being heard. We have a saying in Arabic: "The magician's own spell has been turned against him." Stay tuned.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby IanEye » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:18 am

AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:06 am wrote:
Is ISIS "Muslim"? Its leader, Abu Bakr al-Boghdadi, proclaims his intention to destroy the Kaaba, the holiest shrine in Islam, its spiritual center. He and his followers misquote the Quran, every word, indeed every letter of which is holy to all Muslims, handed down intact and unchangeable from God Himself. He declares that he has written "a new Quran", because the old one is wrong.


ISIS has generously solved Israel's fuel shortage, by stealing Iraqi and Syrian oil and sending it to Turkey, which in turn sends it to Israel. Israel takes what it needs and sells the rest to Europe, at a big profit.



Alice, do you have links to these two items of info?

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby semper occultus » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:49 am

yes Ian those were indeed interesting details

can't remember if I posted this MSM-friendly version of events :






Fuelling Isis Inc

By Borzou Daragahi and Erika Solomon

September 21, 2014 7:18 pm

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/34e874ac-3dad-11e4-b782-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3EF7aFLN2

Waiting for his job interview, the young Syrian was impressed by the array of high-end camera equipment, video-editing pods and overall organisation in the offices of his prospective employer. The salary, five times that of a typical Syrian civil servant, was not bad either.

“They offered me $1,500 a month, plus a car, a house and all the cameras I needed,” says the one-time tailor in his late 20s. “I remembered looking around the office. It was amazing the equipment they had in there. I remember thinking, these people can’t just be getting their money on their own. There has to be a state behind this.”



His prospective employer, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, the al-Qaeda offshoot known as Isis, has pretensions to being a state but it is not there yet. The group controls a third of Iraq and a quarter of Syria but the young man was not being recruited to take up arms. Instead, he was being hired to work at the group’s media office – the sort of operation more often associated with multinationals – in Raqqa, the Syrian city that is the de facto capital of the group’s self-declared Islamic Caliphate or state.

He chose not to take the job – staying in Syria was too dangerous, he decided – but the story illustrates the level of resources and funding available to the terror group that has grown out of the Syrian conflict into an organisation that President Barack Obama committed the US to “degrade and ultimately destroy” this month.
Strangling the source of that revenue – which estimates put at anywhere between $1m and $5m a day – is seen by the US and its allies as essential to halting the Isis advance.

Western investigators have sought to trace bank account numbers in the Gulf and locate jihadi donors as far afield as Indonesia. In addition to nefarious ransom and extortion rings, Isis taps areas under its control for money, charging retail stores about $2 a month in taxes. In coming days, it plans to charge for electricity and water consumption to make money in areas under its control, according to one activist in Syria.

But experts say that to crack down on Isis’s finances, western governments and their Middle East allies must look first at a decades-old oil smuggling network, which is now being tapped by the group to finance its proto-state. This lucrative unofficial trade encompasses northern Iraq, northeastern Syria, southern Turkey, parts of Iran and, according to western officials and leading international experts, is where Isis earns the bulk of its money.

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Maplecroft, the risk management firm, says in a recent report that Isis now controls six out of 10 of Syria’s oilfields, including the big Omar facility, and at least four small fields in Iraq, including those at Ajeel and Hamreen.

Oil smuggling has deep roots in the region. After the imposition of UN energy sanctions on Iraq in the 1990s, a robust network of smugglers, traders and bootleg refineries have flourished.

Hundreds of entrepreneurs emerged, buying and selling small parcels of Iraq’s oil at discounted prices and transporting them across the Turkish border to sell at a markdown. Many of the business people have grown rich and powerful, with vested interests and political ties.

Energy experts and western officials say Isis may be laundering up to 80,000 barrels of oil a day worth several million dollars through this shadow market. The oil is smuggled through rugged mountain and desert routes or even legitimate crossings at Reyhanli, Zakho or Penjwan for consumption in Turkey, Iran or Jordan.

“The fact that Iraq was under sanctions for so long led Kurdish and Iraqi businessmen to fill a vacuum and create smuggling networks for Iraqi oil,” says Valerie Marcel, a Middle East and Africa energy specialist at Chatham House, the London think-tank. “Turkish, Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi networks have grown because of decades of bans on exports. From Iraq and now from Syria there is this grey market. That’s becoming a huge problem.”

Black market oil is often refined at plants in Iraqi Kurdistan that are partly the byproduct of the tensions between Kurdish leaders and Baghdad. In recent years the Kurdistan Regional Government looked the other way as homegrown refineries popped up to supply the local market after Baghdad banned the export of petroleum products without its consent.

This means that the Kurds are potentially helping put money in the coffers of the jihadi group that its own peshmerga forces are fighting. “It’s now possible that Isis could be selling crude [via middlemen] to these knock-off refineries,” says Bilal Wahab, an energy expert at the American University of Sulaymaniyah. “The KRG is unwilling to shut them down because it would have to raise the price of gasoline. It can’t raise the price of gasoline because it can’t pay salaries, and it can’t pay salaries because the central government hasn’t given the KRG its budget in eight months. Yes, it’s illegal. Yes, it’s bad. But it is what greases the wheels of the economy.”

International officials accept that the bulk of Isis’s funds are raised within the vast areas of Iraq and Syria it controls.
“It’s pumping oil and selling it to fund its brutal tactics, along with kidnappings, theft, extortion and external support,” John Kerry, US secretary of state said last week. Asked if the administration was looking at bombing oilfields or refineries controlled by Isis, Mr Kerry said: “I have not heard any objection.”


The boundaries of the mostly Kurdish black market zone have never been easy to police, rarely recognised by people with cross-border kinship and trade ties. The terrain ranges from the grassy plains dividing Turkey from northwest Syria to the forbidding mountains between Iraqi Kurdistan and its Turkish and Iranian neighbours to the flatlands along Iraq and Syria’s Jordanian borders.


Smuggling underpins the economy of the semi-autonomous, three-province KRG with smugglers’ coves dotting its borders with Iran, Syria and Turkey. In towns like Hajj Omran along the Iran-Iraq border smugglers openly regale visitors with tales of their exploits.
Iraqi Kurdistan officials warn they have limited resources to police the trade – it now shares a 1,000km border with Isis – and complain that funds have shrunk since Baghdad began withholding budget revenues to the region, another example of how Iraq’s political divisions benefit Isis.

“The government is doing all it can to control the borders,” says Sherko Jawdat Mustafa, a member of the Kurdistan region’s parliament. “But recession is prevailing over Kurdistan with all its institutions and apparatus.”
Officials also suspect border guards in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey are bribed to allow shipments to pass. “It’s like a drug cartel and a criminal organisation which is also benefiting from official support or [those in power] turning a blind eye,” says Ms Marcel. “It couldn’t exist on the scale that it is right now without some army and customs people being complicit and benefiting.”

Iraq ranks 171 out of 177 in Transparency International’s 2013 ratings of perceived official corruption. Security forces often look the other way in exchange for a cash payment.

“A lot of money also goes to the guys at the checkpoints,” says Mr Wahab. “So you have to enforce accountability at the checkpoints and find ways to keep them from taking bribes.”
A Turkish official recently said seizures of smuggled fuel had risen from 35,260 tons in 2011 to more than 50,000 tons in the first six months of 2014 alone, suggesting an explosion in the trade. But the market appears to have shifted in recent weeks in response to a tightening of Turkish border controls.

Much of the trade is carried out inside Isis-controlled areas, making efforts to curb it even tougher. “Now most of the traders are Iraqi,” says Othman al-Sultan, an activist in the Syrian city of Deir Ezzor. “All the Iraqi traders come to buy the crude and take it back into Iraq. Syrian crude is cheap and they use it for generators and factories in Iraq.”

Isis has sought to divorce itself from dependence on international donors in its efforts to create a self-sufficient economy since establishing itself as a significant presence in the Syria conflict. It was in part a disagreement over whether to raise funds locally or internationally that led to friction with other Syrian rebel groups, including the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al Nusra.

Analysts suggest tracking down account numbers or arresting international supporters will do little to damage the finances of a group that deals almost exclusively in cash. Most Gulf supporters seeking the removal of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, are now largely shunning the group.

“Given that the Islamic State has sought to minimise its reliance on the international banking system, the group is comparatively less prone to asset seizures or international financial sanctions,” says the Maplecroft report.
In addition, the group is believed to have distributed its money across a wide geographic area. “Stopping smuggling operations will not affect the Islamic State in the short run,” says Hisham Hashemi, an authority on Sunni insurgents in Baghdad. “They have enough money – in cash – that could keep them going for a good two years.”
But Isis’s outsized ambition and refusal to compromise might lead to the downfall of its financial empire. Isis’s pretensions toward statehood have compelled it to attempt to take control of the entire process and cut out the middlemen. There are also signs that international momentum is building to stifle the black market oil trade. The governments of Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan have announced fresh interdiction efforts. Prices of crude oil in Syria have risen from $25 to $41, suggesting decreased production following Turkey’s clampdown on the border, an activist says.

At the smuggling village of Hacipasa, near the Syrian border, residents recently railed at government efforts to block illegal border crossings that provide a livelihood for many Turks. If the recently installed Baghdad government of prime minister Haider al-Abadi resumes long-delayed budget payments to Kurdistan, it would create even more of an incentive for Kurds to crack down on bootleg refineries that purchase black-market oil.
“Isis is trying to take the oil products as close to the end user as possible to capture more profit,” says Ms Marcel. “By doing that, Isis’s finances become probably easier to target than a constellation of little middlemen with small volumes crawling around the whole territory.”


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Supply chain: Industry on alert to spot rogue oil

The quantities are small but the risks are large for any global trader found to be handling oil from Isis-controlled fields, writes Anjli Raval in London.
The biggest traders say they are confident they have avoided purchases of any smuggled oil because of the procedures – counter parties have to pass through strict due diligence and other “know your customer” processes – already in place. As a result low volumes of poor-quality, unauthenticated crude are unlikely to make it into their networks, they say.

Analysts, however, warn there is a small chance that oil smuggled out of Iraq by truck could enter the global supply chain. Once extracted it can be easily mixed and processed with oil from legitimate sources, disguising its origin, and making it more difficult for traders to identify its source.
Shwan Zulal, an Iraqi oil analyst, says the volumes of Isis oil that could enter the international markets are minimal. But he adds that it is possible for trucked crude to be mixed with pipeline oil in storage facilities at the Turkish port of Ceyhan.

“Nobody wants to get involved in this stuff, but this is really the only way [traders] could inadvertently be buying Isis crude,” says Mr Zulal.
After Isis’s June takeover of much of northwestern Iraq the UN Security Council warned that those caught trading crude from regions controlled by the group could face sanctions. This could affect bank credit lines.

Richard Mallinson, geopolitical analyst at Energy Aspects, a consultancy in London, says: “The Kurdistan Regional Government and operators in the region want their oil to be credible. There is little advantage gained through the smuggling and selling of Isis oil.
“What is more likely, is crude via these small refining units being sold within the region to domestic buyers,” he says. “It is much easier to see the end users being located in these areas rather than the oil getting into the international markets in any real way.”
Even so the industry is on alert, says Stéphane Graber, general secretary of the Geneva Trading & Shipping Association. “We are following the situation with our members very closely to ensure [they are] not breaking any existing international rules.”

Additional reporting by Piotr Zalewski in Ankara, Geoff Dyer in Washington and Lobna Monieb in Cairo
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 82_28 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:27 am

How did this rag-tag group of what we're led to believe backwards people get into the drilling sites and refineries and shit and get their "caution to the wind" supply routes? You've gotta source parts, knowhow and equipment. That's the part I can't stand. Nobody is asking this. But shhhh! Obama is coming on in an hour to explain what happens "next"!
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:23 pm

It's really hard to find quotable sources in English for any of this. The things about the Quran and Kaaba have been widely reported in the Arab media, and are entirely consistent with what we know about ISIS. For example, Muslim religious scholars regularly prove how Abu Bakr el-Boghdadi's supposed quotes from the Quran are either grossly distorted or dead wrong. In Iraq, where el-Boghdadi reportedly lives, he has been unanimously rejected by the religious authorities, who called him religiously "unqualified" whether in terms of knowledge or ethics or background. Ironically, even the leaders of ISIS' rival terrorist group, Al-Qaeda, have declared El-Boghdadi to be an "infidel", and accuse him of fabricating a "false Islam". The only English reference I could find to El-Boghdadi's stated intention to re-write the Quran was a mention by Pakistani intelligence, quoting an Iraqi newspaper about messages on an ISIS electronic site.

Once again, though, it's highly consistent with the prevailing religious ignorance among ISIS and Al-Qaeda recruits:

Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.

Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric - think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming "Allahu Akbar" at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its "holy war" - but religious fervour isn't what motivates most of them. Link


A classified report compiled by British intelligence that comprehensively examined the profiles of "Islamic" terrorist recruits from the UK, concluded that:

Far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could actually be regarded as religious novices. Very few have been brought up in strongly religious households, and there is a higher than average proportion of converts. Some are involved in drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes. MI5 says there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation. Link



Isis captors 'didn't even have the Koran', says French journalist held prisoner by group for more than 10 months

Didier François was held prisoner by the militant group before he was released in April last year
JAMES RUSH Wednesday 04 February 2015


A French journalist held prisoner by Isis has described how the ideology his captors spoke of had little to do with religion, saying they "didn't even have the Koran."

Didier François was held prisoner for more than 10 months by the militant group before he was released in April last year.

In an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour, Mr François has described how his captors would speak to prisoners of their beliefs, but said the discussion was based on politics, rather than religion.

He said: "It was more hammering what they were believing than teaching us about the Koran. Because it has nothing to do with the Koran. ... Link


But this doesn't only apply to terrorist recruits, even from abroad. The overwhelming majority of fanatic Islamist preachers, credited with recruiting large numbers of youths to the Muslim Brotherhood and similar terrorist organizations, have no religious qualifications or background. Some of the most (in)famous, revered by their followers as "sheikhs" or "imams" are either uneducated, or trained in completely irrelevant fields, such as medicine, engineering or agriculture.

The part about ISIS intending to conquer Mecca and Medina and destroying the "idol" of the Kaaba has, again, been widely reported here. Once again, it is entirely consistent with ISIS' actions in Iraq, burning and demolishing even ancient and priceless mosques, and desecrating shrines in the territories they control. In English, it was mentioned by Huffington Post, though with a later caveat that it was "unverified", though in fact this tweet was far from unique:

Reported ISIS Member Says They Will Destroy The Kaaba In Mecca, 'Kill Those Who Worship Stones' [UPDATE]
The Huffington Post | By Yasmine Hafiz


Posted: 07/01/2014 10:43 am EDT Updated: 07/01/2014 9:59 pm EDT

UPDATE 4:14 PM--
The Twitter account https://twitter.com/nm8smyh, which sent the original message, has been suspended. The authenticity of the account as belonging to an ISIS member has not been verified.

A reported member of the militant group Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), which recently dubbed itself simply as The Islamic State, has declared that they will destroy the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, which is Islam's most holy site.

APA quoted alleged ISIS member Abu Turab Al Mugaddasi based on reports from Turkish media, who said on Twitter:

If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba. People go to Mecca to touch the stones, not for Allah.

ISIS reportedly is planning to take over the city of Arar in Saudi Arabia, which is very close to the Iraq border. It is a fifteen-hour drive away from Mecca, the site of the Hajj pilgrimage which all observant Muslims are expected to do at least once.

If indeed the statement is from an ISIS member, it's a shocking one even for them, considering that ISIS has been attempting to increase recruitment from Muslims worldwide by declaring the restoration of an Islamic Caliphate.

According to John L. Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University, "In terms of legitimacy- unless you're someone who's ready to join a terrorist group at this point, for the vast majority of Muslims there is no legitimacy with this group." This most recent threat reinforces Esposito's point, particularly as it comes during the holy month of Ramadan.

This piece has been updated to reflect the lack of authentication behind the reported tweet. Link


Referring to the oil stolen from Syria and Iraq and routed first to Turkey and then to Israel and then being resold to Europe, there are many sources for this. Egyptian intelligence is one. In English, Mikhail Leontyev has made several public statements to that effect. The Moscow Times asked the question, "Why are oil prices dropping?", and this was one of the answers:

"Firstly, Saudi Arabia has started to offer big discounts on oil. This is political manipulation that could end badly. The second reason — oil stolen by the Islamic State is entering the market through Turkey and Israel at a threefold discount. There's not that much of it, but it's stolen so it's cheap."

- Rosneft spokesman Mikhail Leontyev in an Oct. 12 interview with the Russian News Service. Link


While it is clear that the main target of the [US-led coalition] air campaign [in Syria] is not the one that is announced, no one is able to say precisely what it seeks to destroy. The most that can be said is that the United States and its GCC allies bombed empty buildings in Rakka - which had been evacuated two days earlier by the Islamic Emirate, and a dozen refineries in eastern Syria.

Bombing of a Syrian refinery by the US Air Force, September 24, 2014. Refineries are among the most expensive industrial investments.

So what do these refineries signify in a war allegedly waged against terrorism? According to the Pentagon, they were controlled by the Islamic Emirate and brought it much income.

The answer is obviously false. When states under embargo try to sell gas or oil on the international market, they do not succeed. But the Islamic Emirate does, despite resolutions 1373 (2001) and 2170 (2014) of the Security Council. Publicly notorious, it steals oil in Iraq and Syria, routing it by pipeline to the Turkish port of Ceyhan, from where it is transported to Israel by tankers of the Palmali Shipping & Agency JSC, the Turkish-Azeri company of billionaire Mubariz Gurbanoğlu. At the port of Ashkelon, Israeli authorities provide false certificates of origin from Eilat, then they are exported to the European Union, which pretends to believe they’re Israeli. Voltaire Net


Early last month, a tanker carrying over a million barrels in crude oil from northern Iraq’s Kurdish region arrived at the Texas Gulf of Mexico. The oil had been refined in the Iraqi Kurdish region before being pumped through a new pipeline from the KRG area ending up at Ceyhan, Turkey, where it was then loaded onto the tanker for shipping to the US. Baghdad’s efforts to stop the oil sale on the basis of its having national jurisdiction were rebuffed by American courts.

In early September, the European Union’s ambassador to Iraq, Jana Hybášková, told the EU Foreign Affairs Committee that “several EU member states have bought oil from the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) terrorist organisation that has been brutally conquering large portions of Iraq and Syria,” according to Israel National News. She however “refused to divulge the names of the countries despite being asked numerous times.”

A third end-point for the KRG’s crude this summer, once again shipped via Turkey’s port of Ceyhan, was Israel’s southwestern port of Ashkelon. This is hardly news though. In May, Reuters revealed that Israeli and US oil refineries had been regularly purchasing and importing KRG’s disputed oil.
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Postby IanEye » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:04 pm

Thank you for the links, Alice!
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Elvis » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:13 pm

Yes thanks. This is all starting to make a little bit more sense.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby zangtang » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:06 pm

i don't want to play this game anymore.
pretending i know what i'm talking about.
All the nightmares are coming true.
All of 'em.
anybody here even halfway to beginning to see the glimmer of a vain hope of a slight chance
of anything resembling a solution doesn't involve full-spectrum life-denial technologies and
huge amounts of aerosolised aluminium slurry.?

While we're at it, don't know why we're worried about 'young English muslims' heading to Syria.
'better an empty room than a bad tenant'
- albeit, thats usually about farting or belching (!)

no idea what quality of 4th generation valium-derivatives the professionals
take to get thru the day but i need some !
(step AWAY from the vehicle) !

What price hydrodynamic electro-gravitics?
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby cptmarginal » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:31 pm

This is common knowledge but I still like to bring it up whenever possible:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/o ... ious-sites

William Dalrymple

Sunday 26 October 2014

In the history of religion, and in the wider story of mankind’s yearning to understand its place in the universe, Mecca is almost as important a site as Jerusalem, yet in English it is still virtually unwritten. There are a few Victorian travelogues, it is true – Sir Richard Burton disguised in his walnut greasepaint and turban, etc – but for every book on Mecca there are several shelves on Jerusalem; for every study of the Hejaz, there exists a groaning library on the Holy Land. Luckily, Ziauddin Sardar has now admirably filled the gap.

“The holy precincts around the Kaaba contain stories stretching back to the very beginning of time,” writes Sardar. Adam, remembered in Islam as the first prophet, is said in Arabian tradition to have visited the city and to be buried there. It is also believed by some to be remembered as a place of pilgrimage in the Bible, under its earlier name of Baca: “Blessed are those… who have set their hearts on pilgrimage,” reads Psalm 84. “As they pass through the valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs.”

Exactly what the pilgrims were worshipping seems to have changed over time: a succession of pagan deities were the subject of rituals in the Kaaba over almost a millennium. Then in the early 7th century the prophet Muhammad swept them all away and replaced the idols with the idea of a single almighty god, Allah. His revelations were said to have been dictated to him, through the person of the Angel Gabriel, in a cave on a mountainside high above the city.

Recently, scholars such as Patricia Crone and Tom Holland have cast doubt on whether Mecca was actually the place where Muhammad received his revelations and where the Qur’an reached its substantive form. The geography of the Qur’an, with its vines and olive groves, they argue, appears to resemble far more the Mediterranean littoral than the bleak wastes of the Hejaz. Slightly frustratingly, this version of events is dismissed by Sardar in little more than a footnote, with the observation that “absence of evidence amounts to little more than absence of archaeology”, itself the results of the Saudi royal family’s “horror of history”.

What Sardar gives us, instead, is a beautifully rendered account of the Muslim version of events, as told by a rational, likable, intelligent and mildly sceptical follower of the prophet. Sardar aims to make us understand why this great city has been the focus for the prayers of so many billions of human beings through time and across the globe.

The tale opens with Abraham, and his concubine, Hagar. At the urging of his wife, Sarah, Abraham took Hagar and her son, Ishmael, and left them in the desert outside the site of the future city of Mecca. But God answered Hagar’s prayers for help and the spring of Zamzam was revealed to them. According to the Qur’an, it is their descendants who first peopled the valley and built the city.

Muhammad’s revelations and his successful establishment of an empire of faith changed the fortunes of Mecca for ever, turning it into the greatest religious centre for Islam. Yet while the city was coveted by a succession of the great Islamic dynasties that ruled the Middle East, Mecca never became a major cultural or political centre like Alexandria or Damascus: instead, like Jerusalem, it was always a city of faith and left to the pilgrims and their devotions.

Sardar is himself a dedicated haji, who has made many times the pilgrimage to Mecca required of every Muslim, and this book is full of witty tales from his different pilgrimages. The villains of this story, throughout the second half of the book, are the ultra-puritanical Wahhabis and their Saudi patrons. Sardar gives an excellent account of the Wahhabis’ first capture of the city in the early 19th century when the Ottomans were busy with Napoleon’s arrival in Egypt, when they destroyed all the Sufi and Shia shrines in Arabia and Iraq. This included destroying the tombs of descendants of the prophets in Mecca as well as wreaking devastation on the holy cities of Najaf and Kerbala.

At the time, most Muslims regarded the Wahhabis as an extreme and alien sect, a perversion bordering on infidelity – kufr. Even to this day, the Wahhabis make up only a small percentage of the world’s Muslims. However, the Wahhabis have used their oil revenues – the Saudis control one fifth of the world’s reserves – to attempt to remake Islam in their own narrow and puritanical image. Saudi-owned houses overwhelmingly dominate Arabic publishing.

If more and more of the Muslim world is now open to a newly intolerant and sometimes violent strain of Islam, no force has been more responsible for this than the ultra-orthodox tribal absolutism of Saudi Arabia. It is no coincidence that Saudi Arabia provided 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers.

But as Sardar shows, almost as reprehensible was the destruction wrought on Mecca since the 1950s when the Saudis’ bad taste, hatred of history and megalomania all combined with a sudden flood of oil money to allow them to recreate Mecca as a sort of Arabian Nights version of Disneyland, a Muslim Las Vegas. The Saudi desecration of Mecca and the bulldozing of the old city is told in graphic and tragic detail: “An estimated 95% of the city’s millennium-old buildings, consisting of over 400 sites of cultural and historical significance, were demolished to build this eruption of architectural bling. Bulldozers arrived in the middle of the night to demolish Ottoman-era town houses… The house of Khadijah, the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad, has been turned into a block of toilets.”

Sardar surveys modern Mecca with a love that is mixed with a profound sense of disappointment and loss. Yet the book that results is a major achievement and a hugely enjoyable and important study of one of the world’s great cities.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby cptmarginal » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:18 am

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/j ... us-failure

How the US let al-Qaida get its hands on an Iraqi weapons factory

In an exclusive extract from his new book, A History of the World since 9/11, Dominic Streatfeild explains how despite expert warnings, the US let al-Qaida buy an arsenal of deadly weapons – then tried to cover it up

Friday 7 January 2011

Haki Mohammed and his brothers were shovelling manure on their farm in Yusifiyah in the spring of 2003 when the soldier arrived. Dishevelled and distressed, the man had run a great distance. "Please," he entreated, "are you true Arabs?"

The Iraqis, raised in a culture of obligatory hospitality towards needy strangers, immediately understood the subtext. The man needed help. Even had he not been a soldier (Haki thought he recognised the uniform of a Special Republican Guard), they were honour-bound to offer assistance. "Of course," Haki assured the man. "What is it you need?"

The soldier held out his AK-47. "Take it." He indicated the webbing around his waist, stuffed full of charged magazines. "Take them all. I don't want them. But I need a dishdasha or a robe. Anything that isn't a uniform." Then the soldier started to undress.

The Mohammeds were indeed good Arabs. They fetched a dishdasha and the man slipped it on. Then, without warning, he flung the ammunition and the rifle down and ran off into the desert. Bemused, the Yusifiyans examined his belongings. He wasn't a Republican Guard at all. His uniform, bereft of rank badges, was that of a rarer outfit: Manzaumat al-Amin, the Iraqi military's security and protection agency.

A small, nondescript town of a few thousand souls 25km south-west of Baghdad, Yusifiyah is known for its rich soil, which enables the production of potatoes famous throughout Iraq for their size and flavour. The singer Farouk al-Khatib was born here. But that's about it. For those uninterested in either potatoes or Iraqi popular music, there's little of interest: farms criss-crossed by irrigation ditches, a great deal of sand, and not much else.

Yusifiyah's obscurity, however, together with its convenient location – less than 30 minutes' drive from Baghdad airport – make it perfect for certain purposes: hiding things, for example. Things you'd rather no one ever knew about. Secret things.

Sure enough, 15km to the south lies a big, big secret. The secret dates back to 1977, when the then-president Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr ordered the construction of a vast munitions plant outside the town. Built by the Yugoslavs, the factory was originally to be named after Bakr himself, until Saddam Hussein seized power in 1979. In a fit of patriotic zeal, the fledgling dictator named it after the Iraqi general Qa'qaa ibn Umar, who in the seventh century inflicted a most glorious massacre on the Persian army in the second battle of Qasidiya: Al Qa'qaa.

Weapons inspectors who visited the facility were dumbstruck by the scale of the place. "Huge," comments one senior figure familiar with the site. "The biggest chemical plant I've ever seen." Covering an area of 36 square km, containing 1,100 buildings and employing more than 14,000 staff, the site was essentially a secret, self-sufficient city, 10 times the size of New York's Central Park – in the middle of the desert. It even had its own power station.

[...]

Initially, looters at Qa'qaa had targeted consumer goods such as fridges and air-conditioners. Although munitions had been taken, no one really knew what to do with them. It soon dawned, however, that they might be intrinsically valuable. Weaponry was rapidly emerging as a second currency.

"After the invasion, we started seeing these Arabs, these foreign fighters," recalls Haki, "Palestinians, Egyptians, Libyans." Most Yusifiyans were wary of these new arrivals, but a number of local tribes took them in: "Karagol, Jenabies, Rowissat . . ."

Yusuf, an emerging leader in the insurgency who belongs to one of these tribes, confirms the story. "We allowed the Arabs into our houses and our farms. We welcomed them properly. Some of them even married our daughters." The fact they were Arab strangers was sufficient to ensure hospitality, but these foreigners had extra pull. They were fedayeen. They were al-Qaida.

They also informed the tribes that some of Qa'qaa's contents were considerably more valuable than rocket launchers and pistols. It wasn't long before Yusuf finally stumbled upon Qa'qaa's real treasure. "We found something that we didn't recognise. It was like a powder. It was stored in specific conditions, in special barrels." Yusuf had no idea what it was, but he thought he might as well take some. Only later would he learn that it was pure, crystalline high explosive. [...]


The whole story is worth reading. Straight down the memory hole.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby semper occultus » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:39 am

.....geopolitically ISIS have presented themsleves ( & sought legitimacy in the region ) as an anti-Imperialist sledge-hammer aimed at demolishing the artificial boundaries imposed by Sykes-Picot etc in the old game of divide & rule....this leads to 2 conclusions : they're lying or the imperialist puppet-masters have a new architecture in mind & have sent in the wrecking crew....
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby Jerky » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:06 am

I think this probably deserves its own thread, but I'll put it here for now.

What ISIS really wants...

The most in-depth examination of this phenomenon I have yet to see in a Western magazine.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/arc ... ts/384980/

What is the Islamic State?
Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.
The group seized Mosul, Iraq, last June, and already rules an area larger than the United Kingdom. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been its leader since May 2010, but until last summer, his most recent known appearance on film was a grainy mug shot from a stay in U.S. captivity at Camp Bucca during the occupation of Iraq. Then, on July 5 of last year, he stepped into the pulpit of the Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul, to deliver a Ramadan sermon as the first caliph in generations—upgrading his resolution from grainy to high-definition, and his position from hunted guerrilla to commander of all Muslims. The inflow of jihadists that followed, from around the world, was unprecedented in its pace and volume, and is continuing.
Our ignorance of the Islamic State is in some ways understandable: It is a hermit kingdom; few have gone there and returned. Baghdadi has spoken on camera only once. But his address, and the Islamic State’s countless other propaganda videos and encyclicals, are online, and the caliphate’s supporters have toiled mightily to make their project knowable. We can gather that their state rejects peace as a matter of principle; that it hungers for genocide; that its religious views make it constitutionally incapable of certain types of change, even if that change might ensure its survival; and that it considers itself a harbinger of—and headline player in—the imminent end of the world.
The Islamic State, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), follows a distinctive variety of Islam whose beliefs about the path to the Day of Judgment matter to its strategy, and can help the West know its enemy and predict its behavior. Its rise to power is less like the triumph of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (a group whose leaders the Islamic State considers apostates) than like the realization of a dystopian alternate reality in which David Koresh or Jim Jones survived to wield absolute power over not just a few hundred people, but some 8 million.
Bin Laden viewed his terrorism as a prologue to a caliphate he did not expect to see in his lifetime. His organization was flexible, operating as a geographically diffuse network of autonomous cells. The Islamic State, by contrast, requires territory to remain legitimate, and a top-down structure to rule it. (Its bureaucracy is divided into civil and military arms, and its territory into provinces.)
We are misled in a second way, by a well-intentioned but dishonest campaign to deny the Islamic State’s medieval religious nature. Peter Bergen, who produced the first interview with bin Laden in 1997, titled his first book Holy War, Inc. in part to acknowledge bin Laden as a creature of the modern secular world. Bin Laden corporatized terror and franchised it out. He requested specific political concessions, such as the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia. His foot soldiers navigated the modern world confidently. On Mohammad Atta’s last full day of life, he shopped at Walmart and ate dinner at Pizza Hut.

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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:47 am

So, a couple of vimeo student level beheadings, and the US and world is drawn into an open ended conflict with the Egyptian goddess "ISIS".

But can that continue? One has to think, at some point the puppet masters behind "ISIS" will have to create a horrifying terror attack on the mainland...UNLESS the entire ruse of The Islamic State of Who Cares And It's All a Goddamn Sham(ISOFCAIAAGS) is to draw the world power into former Babylon/Sumeria for some sort of unknown scenario. ISIS has no real advantage, as if they are born and intended to lose. But, paving the way for the next aeon.
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Re: Your Take On The ISIS Phenomenon

Postby AlicetheKurious » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:17 am

Yesterday, on Friday, ISIS bombed and totally destroyed the oldest mosque in Anbar, in Iraq, built by Omar Ibn Khattab nearly 14 centuries ago. This would be the 28th priceless ancient Muslim and Christian religious building eradicated by ISIS in the province. ISIS is systematically erasing all traces of Iraq's Muslim and Christian heritage.
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