Alternative Visions to Denver Airport NWO Murals

[slomo]

Denver is definitely weird. That's one of the things I liked about it. But a "death worship vibe?"

Gee, I missed that somehow.

There's a dark vibe there. My personal opinion is that it has to do with the defense contracting nearby (e.g. Lockheed). Parts of Nevada have a similar vibe. Sorry if that offends you - just expressing my own perceptions of the place. I have a good friend who lives there.

[82_28]

Denver is definitely weird. That's one of the things I liked about it. But a "death worship vibe?"

Gee, I missed that somehow.

There's a dark vibe there. My personal opinion is that it has to do with the defense contracting nearby (e.g. Lockheed). Parts of Nevada have a similar vibe. Sorry if that offends you - just expressing my own perceptions of the place. I have a good friend who lives there.

Could very well be. Rocky Flats, Rocky Mtn Arsenal.

One of the weirdest things about Denver for a city it's size is that if you drive due NE from downtown, you are literally in Nebraska for the most part within 5 minutes -- like literally the plains. I believe this area was once the site of the Rocky Mountain Arsenal. If you drive in any other direction it takes you an hour to get out of the city. It always bugged me as a kid having family from the east coast -- it made Denver look so po-dunk. This is also essentially where DIA is.

[82_28]

[slomo]

Denver is definitely weird. That's one of the things I liked about it. But a "death worship vibe?"

Gee, I missed that somehow.

There's a dark vibe there. My personal opinion is that it has to do with the defense contracting nearby (e.g. Lockheed). Parts of Nevada have a similar vibe. Sorry if that offends you - just expressing my own perceptions of the place. I have a good friend who lives there.

Could very well be. Rocky Flats, Rocky Mtn Arsenal.

One of the weirdest things about Denver for a city it's size is that if you drive due NE from downtown, you are literally in Nebraska for the most part within 5 minutes -- like literally the plains. I believe this area was once the site of the Rocky Mountain Arsenal. If you drive in any other direction it takes you an hour to get out of the city. It always bugged me as a kid having family from the east coast -- it made Denver look so po-dunk. This is also essentially where DIA is.

Yup. I've driven straight through, coming from the east.

[chump]

I remember when the politicians rammed the airport and the stadiums and the colliseums down the throat of the taxpayer's.

Proponents for a new airport argued that Denver needed a new airport because they were boxed in by the city and had no where to expand - except for a huge expanse of land called the Rocky Mountain Arsenal which was adjacent to the airport just to the north. But there was no money be made in Commerce City. So they built a new airport in tornado alley. As it happened, developers got ahold of most of that land where Stapleton Airport and the old Lowry Field were, and built a bunch of crappy, overpriced houses - many of which have since gone into foreclosure.

The last time I went by the arsenal (years ago), it was basically a gigantic fenced off wildlife preserve, almost in the city, far west of DIA. I didn't ask if I could drive through the gate or not. No telling what you might stumble on in there - a whole bunch of hazardous stuff though I guess. There was a guard at the guard shack, but I did see a pic-up truck drive on in as I drove past on 56th.

By the way, Denver is nice enough. People are civil. But, make no mistake about it, there is an undercurrent of evil that most people don't talk about. Such is life when you work for the MIC.

[82_28]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

[slomo]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

Really, you're from Massachusetts? I'm a transplant here from California, but I would never dream of going back to California willingly. I love New England.

[psynapz]

Just the green chile is what I miss the most! You cannot get it out here!

Incorrect!

Though you may want to wait until Festival season for the freshest ones.

[82_28]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

Really, you're from Massachusetts? I'm a transplant here from California, but I would never dream of going back to California willingly. I love New England.

No. I totally hail from the 303. I just can't stand Boston fans of any kind of sport. When the Rockies played the Red Sox in the 2007 World Series, I couldn't stand how many Sox fans were at Coors Field. Then a few days later I saw a bumper sticker that said "Yeah, I'm a Masshole". I just felt bad for having Seahawk friends and being at their stadium and us Broncos people had taken over. Same with the Sonics/Nuggets games I would go to. We were everywhere.

I hate being annoying.

[slomo]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

Really, you're from Massachusetts? I'm a transplant here from California, but I would never dream of going back to California willingly. I love New England.

No. I totally hail from the 303. I just can't stand Boston fans of any kind of sport. When the Rockies played the Red Sox in the 2007 World Series, I couldn't stand how many Sox fans were at Coors Field. Then a few days later I saw a bumper sticker that said "Yeah, I'm a Masshole". I just felt bad for having Seahawk friends and being at their stadium and us Broncos people had taken over. Same with the Sonics/Nuggets games I would go to. We were everywhere.

I hate being annoying.

Ah, well... Sox fans are annoying, as it turns out. Still, I love the trees and the seasons.

[82_28]

Just the green chile is what I miss the most! You cannot get it out here!

Incorrect!

Though you may want to wait until Festival season for the freshest ones.

Oh I know! Totally. I roasted over 30 pounds of Hatch Chiles last summer! Restaurants just don't have it though up here. Nobody has any clue about green chile in the PNW. They don't even know what it is.

[Nordic]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

That's funny, because the one time I went to Seattle, probably about 17 or 18 years ago, it reminded me SO much of Denver, but I had no idea there were so many people from Denver there. Except, uh, the ones we were visiting. It even has a neighborhood called Capitol Hill!

I sure don't see any dark death vibe in Denver. Quite the opposite. I always felt very safe there, weirdly safe, in fact, like there was something protecting me.

There are a lot of ghosts there, though. No joke.

I've picked up weird vibes in Boulder and Colorado Springs, but not Denver.

[82_28]

Another weird thing about Denver, by way of Seattle, is that almost everyone I know here is from Denver. Virtually everyone. My boss, my girlfriend, my best friend, my very first room mate, neighbors, bar flies, you fucking name it. Seattle is Denver NW. I met them all here too, not in Denver. It really is a thing to behold. I went to see the Broncos play the Seahawks in the last year of the Seahawks being in the AFC -- it was basically all Broncos fans. Well, maybe 1/3. I felt like a Masshole. My girlfriend and I have taken to saying "of course you're from Denver" when we meet new people. Because, next to invariably this city seems to be filled with Denver people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masshole

That's funny, because the one time I went to Seattle, probably about 17 or 18 years ago, it reminded me SO much of Denver, but I had no idea there were so many people from Denver there. Except, uh, the ones we were visiting. It even has a neighborhood called Capitol Hill!

I sure don't see any dark death vibe in Denver. Quite the opposite. I always felt very safe there, weirdly safe, in fact, like there was something protecting me.

There are a lot of ghosts there, though. No joke.

I've picked up weird vibes in Boulder and Colorado Springs, but not Denver.

Seattle's Capitol Hill is actually named after Denver's Capitol Hill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill,_Seattle

[Perelandra]

Oh I know! Totally. I roasted over 30 pounds of Hatch Chiles last summer! Restaurants just don't have it though up here. Nobody has any clue about green chile in the PNW. They don't even know what it is.

Au contraire, I bought some from New Mexico at a local market. Frozen, granted. Made a great kinda chile verde. Maybe talk to some farm market folks, you never know. Did you bring the chiles from Colorado, and how do you store and use them?
Sorry to derail, pm me if you like.

[82_28]

Here is an interesting article about the coolest place as a kid in D-town in the 80's. Well worth reading.

Disney concept and owned by (for KIDZ of course). Run by weirdos, including some military dude. A Barnes and Noble now sits in its spot.

Behold! Celebrity Sports Center.

The opening of the swimming pool marked the completion of the $6 million Celebrity Lanes as called for in the original plans. The addition of Tom Murphy as pool director completed the management team at Celebrity. At the beginning of May 1961 the owners had hired retired general Eugene Mussett, the commander of Lowry Air Force Base from 1956 to 1960, as vice president of operations. This freed Richard Fletcher to focus solely on recreational activities at Celebrity, which was what he had wanted to do all along. He was assisted in this job by Spike Cleysens and Jasper Perry. Frank Shumway oversaw food operations, which, in addition to the lounge and restaurant, included a Hofbrau room where diners enjoyed beer and sandwiches along with a soda bar for the children.

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Plenty of visitors, from the famous to the not-so-famous, had fun at Celebrity during its first years, but management was not having quite as good a time. Both Diane Disney Miller and Roy E. Disney remember management problems as being one of the major difficulties plaguing Celebrity Lanes from the beginning. As one indication of the problems the business faced, General Mussett resigned as vice president of operations in October 1961, just six months after taking the position. Mussett said he was “not at liberty” to comment any further on the subject and quickly devoted himself to his new position as president of a fallout shelter manufacturer. Still, Mussett’s son Gerry remembered his father’s short tenure at Celebrity as “good times.”

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Employees at Celebrity were expected to follow the same rules. Celebrity staff watched a training film starring Walt Disney, in which he explained his expectations. Management continued to use the film even after his death, for as long as the Disney Company owned Celebrity. While the rules were strict, there were exceptions for certain workers. Pool employees were the only staff at Celebrity during the Disney years who were allowed to shout at customers. This one exception was due, largely, to the fact that the pool’s one-dollar admission charge made it an inexpensive place for parents to leave their sometimes unruly children all day during summer vacations. In all other areas of Celebrity, employees were expected to treat visitors as guests, just as they did at the Disney theme parks.

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As he outlined it in his last filmed appearance in 1966, EPCOT would be laid out like a wheel, with a thirty-acre, glass-domed, air-conditioned hub offering a thirty-story hotel and convention center, stores, offices, and restaurants. Mass transit would be the main form of transportation, with roads for cars and trucks buried underground. Outside the dome would be residential and greenbelt areas. EPCOT would be a self-contained city that could control its climate, recycle waste, and feed its own citizens. It would be a “showcase for American industry and research, schools, cultural and education opportunities.” There would be no crime, no slum areas, and if at all possible, no disease, hunger, or want. With EPCOT, Walt Disney was providing the ultimate answer to the social problems he had confronted with projects such as Disneyland and Celebrity.

With planning for Walt Disney World under way, Celebrity Sports Center took on a new role as a training ground for future management of the Florida park. The center trained people at managing a family resort in order to guarantee a pool of experienced staff when Walt Disney World opened. The only experience they did not gain at Celebrity was in hotel management, which would be a crucial part of Walt Disney World. Company executives solved that problem by leasing a Hilton hotel in Florida and then turning over management of it to Disney staff until Disney’s Contemporary Hotel at the resort was nearing completion. A number of notable Disney executives had their first managerial experience at Celebrity, including Bob Allen, who was credited with making Celebrity a financial success; David Jaskiewicz, who retired as vice president of human resources at Walt Disney World Resort in 2001; and Ralph Kent, a Walt Disney “Imagineer.”

http://buckfifty.org/2009/02/04/celebrity/







My church would have "lock-in" nights here for the kids. A bunch of churches would get together and rent the place out. They'd lock the doors and then you'd run around all night. Swim, bowl, go to the arcade, you name it.

Strange.