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Postby Sally Felds » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:57 pm

Keep in mind, these were the days when I still believed in John Aravosis and Kos.


Please don't tell me that was ever true....please don't tell me you honestly believed in John Aravosis.

Exhibit A:

(if you look very closely you will see John Aravosis having a beer with a guy in a hat)

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:35 pm

et in Arcadia ego wrote:

Intimidation is how shit like this remains unchecked. Now its blossomed to the point where if the person who PM's the warning, WASN'T The Man, the social conditioning DU seems intended for has reached a point of self-sufficiency.


Yeah, it's really incredible. The logical end-consequence is that no one would ever dare to criticise DU anywhere on the World Wide Web, ever. Who the fuck do they think they are?

The very title, "Democratic Underground" makes me puke. The faux-radical frisson. The virtual shades. The Lou Reed attitood.

If they were going to name themselves after any band (thereby discrediting that band in the process), it should have been Iggy Pop's: "Democratic Stooges" is more like it.
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Postby unaltered » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:42 pm

Thread has been locked by Lithos.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:46 pm

It is now 17:40 Eastern Time. The thread has been up all day. Not one DU Moderator or Administrator has intervened. Not one -- on the most heavily-policed subforum on their whole website.

They are happy to have 9/11 scepticism bedunked for four solid years by someone who describes himself as a "right-wing reactionary" and who describes DU itself as "The apex of the Lunatic Left". This guy Sweet Pea -- this right-wing militaristic arsehole -- is their ally.

Democratic Underground is an energy sink run and populated by spooks. I hope this fact will be very widely publicised.
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Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:51 pm

Oh, you can count on it. :twisted:
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:52 pm

Lithos (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:33 PM
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114. Locking
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... _id=212238


First intervention by a Moderator: to lock the whole thread. And not one word of explanation.

What completely and utterly despicable fucking creeps you are, DU.

To everyone here, and especially to those in the US: please get the word out to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. Especially in an election year, this matters a lot.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:12 pm

Re-posting Jeff's post from earlier today on this thread:

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:59 am

Has a Duer pm'd Skinner or a mod with this, asking for action, or at least clarification of DU's rules? Naturally they have the info, but they deserve to be put on the spot for a response.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:26 pm

Minutes earlier, same Moderator, thread title: "What is the goal of 9/11 debunkers?":

Lithos (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-24-08 05:29 PM
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I think the time for this thread has passed.

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Sic. Verbatim. Unabridged.

Calling these arseholes 'Stalinists' is too charitable by far.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:42 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:Democratic Underground is an energy sink run and populated by spooks. I hope this fact will be very widely publicized.


Try saying it like you mean it:

MacCruiskeen wrote:Democratic Underground is an energy sink run and populated by spooks. I hope this fact will be very widely publicized.
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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:52 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:Re-posting Jeff's post from earlier today on this thread:

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:59 am

Has a Duer pm'd Skinner or a mod with this, asking for action, or at least clarification of DU's rules? Naturally they have the info, but they deserve to be put on the spot for a response.



Chickenshits like Skinner don't have to respond to criticism. He'll just hide behind his gatekeepers Lithos and the Maggot, while he counts the pennies from all those damn ads he plasters all over the site.

I can't believe I wasted so much time and energy there, for people who have no respect or consideration for the folks like us, who put our trust in them, while asshats like bolo are still members in good standing.
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Postby slomo » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:36 pm

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Keep in mind, these were the days when I still believed in John Aravosis and Kos.


Please don't tell me that was ever true....please don't tell me you honestly believed in John Aravosis.

Exhibit A:

(if you look very closely you will see John Aravosis having a beer with a guy in a hat)


Yeah, I did, I actually even met him in person along with the FireDogLake women. They all seemed fine, and they very well may be (aside from John's ocassionally shallow observations such as the one you posted.) I'm not sure whether John is a "Left Gatekeeper" or merely careful about his message. Kos may be slightly more sinister, hard to say for sure.

But DU: clearly totalitarian. Even if it isn't a government-sponsored op, who needs "Democrats" that run their site like Stalinists?
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Postby kelley_b » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:18 pm

If posting here is enough to get one banned at DU, then bring it on. I haven't used my account there in years.

All it takes is a handful of Company men to ruin any community in realspace or cyberspace. Right wing may not be the most accurate description of what's going on there, but it seems there are undeniably some people working more than one side of issues posting and monitoring.

But most of you seem to have that figured out already!
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Postby OP ED » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:19 pm

well. fucking duh?
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Postby bks » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:21 pm

Mac,

I'm sure its settled by this point, but please do not delete this thread. Fuck DU. I post there, and would be happy to be tombstoned for posting here.

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Postby ninakat » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:39 pm

slomo wrote:
Quote:
Keep in mind, these were the days when I still believed in John Aravosis and Kos.


Please don't tell me that was ever true....please don't tell me you honestly believed in John Aravosis.

Exhibit A:

(if you look very closely you will see John Aravosis having a beer with a guy in a hat)


Yeah, I did, I actually even met him in person along with the FireDogLake women. They all seemed fine, and they very well may be (aside from John's ocassionally shallow observations such as the one you posted.) I'm not sure whether John is a "Left Gatekeeper" or merely careful about his message. Kos may be slightly more sinister, hard to say for sure.

But DU: clearly totalitarian. Even if it isn't a government-sponsored op, who needs "Democrats" that run their site like Stalinists?


I don't know what the story is with Aravosis, but my hunch is that he's climbing the ladder inside the beltway, where any talk of 9/11 truth is verboten. I went to AmericaBlog for a few months before I realized he was banning people for talking "conspiracy."

At any rate, fuck DU. Thanks MacC for bringing this to light. They really need to be exposed for the slime they are.

Now I'm wondering who Deep Throat (who PM'd you) is. I know it's none of my business, but the Kat gets Kurious when there's a secret.
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