Coincidence/Synchronicity/Jung/RAW/QM, etc

[marmot]

So if anyone is interested, here's my synchronicity blog.

Zap, I remember reading your teapot blog awhile back. I'm trying to remember how I came across it. I'm not sure if it was via rigint or not. It was fun stumbling across it again. Thanks.

[Penguin]

Thanks, marmot. Love ya (thou that 4004 looks even nicer)
Now I reposted the dream stories on the previous page for your enjoyment, please have a read.

[Zap]

Thanks marmot. The story in its original form on my urban exploration website was originally posted on here by Professor Pan - I saw the traffic to my website, came and checked it out, and wound up joining the board in part to assure HMW that my site and story were not CIA output (sadly, this effort seems to have failed).

I really like squirrels too. That event was pretty important to me then. A message not unlike what it sounds like.

Interesting tale, did you read my 'albino squirrel' post? You may just enjoy it as a squirrel lover, but it also involved a premonition of squirrel death, although not as striking or specific as yours.

I should mention that it does seem to me that many (but not all) instances of 'synchronicity' could be explained by "psychic ability" of some kind - although I tend to feel that they indicate more about the interconnectedness of all things, the illusion of time, etc than they do about some kind of 'mere precognitive ability,' if you know what I mean.

[marmot]

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[Penguin]

You guys do realize I am a great white squirrel don't ya?

Yea.
I also strongly identify with horses, most dreams of animals have been of horses. Ive talked deep philosophy with a young beautiful horse, and in a later dream I rescued her from a horse car, from an abusive owner, and we ran to the woods together.

These maybe as examples of the variance..The term synchronicity sure doesnt cover all.

A close friend of mine has dreamt of foxes since childhood. Once we were driving in my car late at night in the country, and suddenly he starts to talk of foxes...10 seconds later a fox jogs over the road in our headlights..We all smile and look at each other, and remark upon the instance. He reminds me of a fox too, always has.

We also had a group consciousness event among 3 people. We had agreed to ask "What is reality, what is life, what is consciousness", and talk as little as possible, compare experiences the next day. It was something else completely...I think comparable to what Zap describes for his part with the teapot.

Some weeks after this, I was on my way to a rave, to another city by train. I arrived, met friends at the station, talking animatedly with them..And I get a sense that I must turn around now, I am being stared at..I do so, and instantly lock eyes with my fox friend, 100 meters away, in a large crowd - he is grinning widely and walking towards me.

When he gets to me he tells he noticed me on the station as soon as he stepped out the train, and decided to stare at me intently, thinking "turn around look at me, turn around look at me" all the time. Worked!

Perhaps more later, Id love to hear yours, all the people...

[Penguin]

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=19623
The Weirdest Stuff you are 99% certain is true

Found that while searching for "pigeon"
That was the other thread I had in mind earlier.

From that one -

The Weirdest Stuff you are 99% certain is true

LSD can create a genuine group-mind between people.

That this occurs, indicates to me that we share this connection all the time - or have the capacity for it - but that our normal brain states disable or obscure it.

Cheers mate.

The Weirdest Stuff you are 99% certain is true

LSD can create a genuine group-mind between people.

That this occurs, indicates to me that we share this connection all the time - or have the capacity for it - but that our normal brain states disable or obscure it.

LSD is a hammer. There are other chemicals that can induce similar states and are more easily controlled and/or conducive towards learning to recreate these states later (non-chemically).

My cabal uses a variety of methods, including a synthetic approach involving a combination of the AA breathing techniques, concentration meditations, a gnostic rite called Consolamentum and exercises developed by synchronized swimmers. Often these are augmented by chemicals, but it isn't seemingly required for those who have had the experience before.

The best chemical I've found for this useso far is Dextromethorphan, a much weaker drug as far as psychoactives go, but more sympathetic to this state and also legal almost everywhere.

My experiences in this area could fill an entire volume. Side effects include several other "paranormal" type events. Poltergeist activity is common for prolonged group experiments, especially those involving both genders (the implications of this I have yet to draw conclusions on, but I consider them allied to similar events related to my tantra experiences).

be careful where you trip, you may have trouble coming back again.

more later.

Love is the Law,
SHCR 8

I agree 100%. This has happened to me and two friends. We had a retreat, purposefully, a sacrament, to question what life is, what existence is - during which we "melded" - saw each others thoughts, and interacted telepathically with each other, and saw same things together - even briefly controlled each others bodies. After that we have felt like the connection is always there, on the background, like we'd be present all the time with each other.

We also often get synchronic thoughts - last time was just a couple weeks ago. That friend came to visit, and started to talk to me about exact same things I had been pondering about for a few days, and then gave me some links to material that was exactly what I needed to read to get more info on what I had been thinking. I mentioned this to him and he smiled and said "Of course."

Re: Comments earlier about this: Ive had similar experiences with these friends, many times, later. Both sober and in different states. What made it happen that time, I suppose, is the conscious effort and asking for an experience like that. We all passed thru ego deaths at first -meditating - then we realized we were in a shared reality bubble of a kind. That time was pretty mentally taxing - and OP EDs warning of being careful where you trip, for you might not come back, is no joke.

For more reasons than I can enumerate here, I seriously consider the possibility that many of the official systems in place in this world collectively manage a sort of "perceptual dampening effect" that trains our minds—from an extremely young age—to pay attention to only a very narrow bandwidth of possible perceptions, while unconsciously ignoring all the rest.

Belief, unquestioning respect for authority, misinformation acquired through "education," even outright fear instilled in early childhood conditioning—and several other factors too, of course—all contribute to this "perceptual dampening effect."

Sometimes though, flashes of some of the other available perceptual bandwidths make their way through this filter—and when that happens, we are of course surprised.

I have a little green jade buddha, a fat jolly buddha carved out of a block about an inch and a half cubed at the base, and about an inch high.

I took it out to a rave one night, and lent it to a friend who was having a bad trip.

She lost it.

We ended up at her sisters place, and I drove back, on my own, to my friends place (the one I originally lent the buddha to).

It was in her loungeroom sitting on the table.

There is no possible way the girl could have taken it back to her place, she didn't go there, and no one else did either.

I gave it to her, and she lost it, she didn't give it back. I was resigned to losing it, as I'd had a great night and was tripping off my head and at one with the universe. For some reason I just knew it would turn up sometime, didn't know when or how.

I took it back and showed everyone, then started doing all sorts of wierd things with it, we were all still tripping at this point, so who knows what happened. At the very least it was a case of group mind/group hallucination.

However the teleporting buddha ... that was genuinely fucking weird.

It was like that night woke it too. I'd had it for years, an old girlfriend brought it off some old guy in a back alley in Hong Kong years earlier for me. It had never displayed any magical power beforehand, and I'd never suspected it of having any. After that night it became a powerful talisman, till I switched it off cos I figured I should keep my power in myself not an external object.

To this day I can't figure how it could have got to that house, and I have racked my brain trying to find some logical explanation.

Joe, where are ya...

Been hoping to have a similar experinece to that for many years. LSD/Mushrooms may cause similar effects but I'm not into drugs.

There are many paths to the same place. Some things you might consider: holotropic breathwork, pranayama yoga, meditation, shamanic drumming/dancing/journeying, prayer, sensory deprivation.... you get the drift.

Entheogens (I hate when people call LSD, psilocybin, MDMA and the like "drugs") are just a rocket trip to mystical states, but some prefer the slower, gradual route. Nothing wrong with either approach.

http://www.erowid.org/spirit/spirit.shtml

To truly find God, truth needs to be found independently from the opinions of others. The truth has to be found in our hearts.
--A.H.Almaas

keep kickign this newage gobbldy gook about group minds and how good that would be.

SCU In Lismore NSW used to have a subject called "Spiritual Well Being".

In one of the first tutorials there was an exercise where the class focussed on group mind visualisations. There was no preamble to the exercise, no discussion about what to see or experience, but aferward everyone reported experincing pretty much the same thing, and it was more of an exercise in visualising how minds could begin to connect together.

Its not gobbldy gook. Some of the best sporting sides in all codes of sport function with a high degree of "group mind".

Ever seen a crowd start to riot?

There are all sorts of group minds. Surrendering to them willy nilly is pretty dumb, but being part of some can be a good thing.

And last, but not least..

Hafta skip this thread due to 100% certainty.

Because for example, when two people hear a "horrible noise" "move" down a wall, or there is poltergeist activity and there's no rational explanation or debunking possible ("Oh, that's just your teenager playing tricks on you") "something" has caused our laws of physics to bend, break or warp in some way, right?

I think of them less as "laws" than as "forces currently in effect unless something stronger happens by."

A famous man, and his name escapes me said...


There is no such thing as the breaking of the laws of physics, but rather there are laws/forces we have yet to fully understand.

[Zap]

A close friend of mine has dreamt of foxes since childhood. Once we were driving in my car late at night in the country, and suddenly he starts to talk of foxes...10 seconds later a fox jogs over the road in our headlights..We all smile and look at each other, and remark upon the instance. He reminds me of a fox too, always has.

That reminded me of this: http://ofscarabs.blogspot.com/2009/06/f ... icity.html

[Perelandra]

A couple of days ago, a friend mentioned an obscure text in an esoteric discussion. This morning I went to a (tiny) street fair after breakfast and there was a cool little book seller's booth. There it was, so I bought it.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

So zap, answer this, please.

When Gaeton Fonzi is the lead JFK investigator for the House Select Committee on assassinations scrutinizing the 'magic bullet' theory signed off by FBI ballistics expert, Courtland Cunningham...and the sit-com viewing public is given "Fonzi" and the "Cunninghams" on 'Happy Days' plus "Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

Or is this real human beings writing decoy psyops scripts to protect the US government?

Maybe ask your magic teapot!

edit: spelling

[nathan28]

"Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

The actor who portrayed JR was a huge acid proponent, and claimed to have cured his cancer with it.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

"Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

The actor who portrayed JR was a huge acid proponent, and claimed to have cured his cancer with it.

The actor who played JR was best known for a show about "MAGIC," 'I Dream of Jeannie.'

As in, "magic bullet." Duh.

I don't trust anyone who promotes that 'universe winking at us' bullshit.

[agitprop]

"Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

The actor who portrayed JR was a huge acid proponent, and claimed to have cured his cancer with it.

The actor who played JR was best known for a show about "MAGIC," 'I Dream of Jeannie.'

As in, "magic bullet." Duh.

I don't trust anyone who promotes that 'universe winking at us' bullshit.

Would you support the idea that the universe is mooning us then?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Would you support the idea that the universe is mooning us then?

The universe doesn't have 'an ass.' Except mebbe, Los Angeles.

[8bitagent]

Years later, I lived in another town, the girl lived maybe 200 km from there. I hadnt seen her in over a year, nor thought of her much. I was home after work, relaxing in a comfy chair, and suddenly I think of her. "I must call her now! I wonder how she is doing..." I look up the number, and call. She answers immediately, and delightedly yells "Guess what you just did! Its so cool, guess what you did now!"

I ask her to tell, and she says that she was just cleaning up at home, and found a cassette I had recorded for her years earlier, and hand-crafted the covers with paint, coloured paper and glue (old Tangerine Dream), and she had put the cassette playing, and started thinking about how I might be doing. At the very same moment. I get the urge to call her right now. Greatest thing was we both realized it, and the thought/feeling bridge that connected.

Damn for reals? I LOVE reading stories like this.

My wife and I were discussing Philip K. Dick and his Gnostic beliefs as expressed in many of his books, particularly "The Divine Invasion" and somehow were relating this to the occult and the significance of the number three. Especially three three's (333) and my wife commented that perhaps this could mean that the number nine was significant. If so then perhaps three nines (999) might be the ultimate expression of this numerical nonsense. Just as she finished uttering that sentence we pulled to a stop at a red light. The car in front of us had a license plate that read "PKD999"

Dead serious. We were both fairly taken aback by this littel detail. We just looked at each other in the most pregnant silence I've ever experienced.

I always keep my antennae up when it comes to synchronicity.

Oh yes. See that stuff is every day. In fact what you experienced doesn't surprise me the least. And I don't mean the often times we'll find the one time we look up to glance the clock in any given day and see "11:11", "9:11" or "3:33".

But way out of left field stuff like you mentioned

Like the stock market dropping 777 points. Its like, come on!

My question is - how much of the shadowy conspiracies we tend to see lurking could be explained by such coinci-dance?

Life works in mysterious ways. Some things...are toooo bizarre and too perfect I muse, to merely be the product of some shadowy cabal in high finance. Check out my 7/7 thread for a list of major news events that go beyond mere human capabilities in high weirdness.

We tend to find what we look for - and even create what we seek ... perhaps a lot of the strange coincidences that can be found between popular culture media and world events are not CIA/PTB manipulation, but just more of the same mysterious synchronicity that we know goes on in other domains?

Definitely.

So - more than mere coincidence, but not evidence of conspiracy?

It's a conspiracy alright, but who...or what is behind it?
Again, the esoteric high weirdness, numerological factors, etc in these things are almost too much

Perhaps the conscious reality sending a message, waving a flag, or dropping a wink?

The cosmic giggle, of course. We're always being winked at.
Revelation of the mad mad method.

The back of the one dollar bill and the street formations around the white house to me point to something deliberate, but a lot of times things
just defy explanation and seem to perfect when it comes to major events.

[Penguin]

So zap, answer this, please.

When Gaetano Fonzi is the lead JFK investigator for the House Select Committee on assassinations scrutinizing the 'magic bullet' theory signed off by FBI ballistics expert, Courtland Cunningham...and the sit-com viewing public is given "Fonzi" and the "Cunninghams" on 'Happy Days' plus "Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

Or is this real human beings writing decoy psyops scripts to protect the US government?

Maybe ask your magic teapot!

In that case Id be more inclined to your theory, Hugh (as Ive said before).
And sometimes also, a coincidence is a coincidence. Thou I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for stuff like "random", from any physicist, astronomer or mathematician. They dont know either.

I dont know what to think about these claimed "media synchronicities", "synchromysticism", maybe because I consider it a personal thing, and have only experienced personal insights this way - except for what I saw when WTC strikes happened (saw buildings on my both sides explode and collapse as I walked on the street, on the other side of the globe, about 15-0 minutes before the first plane hit - then heard of it only hour and a half later, and marked the exact time then - Ive mentioned this here too before, and wrote to elfismiles in more detail bout it). Thats the only time it was something not personal.

For whatever thats worth.

Ill try to rephrase that idea..
I agree with your ideas at times, Hugh. Because I think I see similar subconscious ideas planted in much of media (planted, in my opinion, not always knowingly - replication of learned ideas counts as well, whether unknowing or aware).

Like the dark mojo working of the WTCs - the subliminal parts planted were stuff like the numbers 9, 11, 77 and so on, and the whole muslim extremist mythology that had been created beforehand, with the bad guy Osama etc. and the huge amount of Holly-wood (magicians staff) produce featuring those nasty evil arabs as baddies...

Down to the towers themselves, as symbols.
Finally, when the event went down, all this subconscious baggage was swallowed by most people, as first the planes attached peoples attention to the event, and then when the attention was fixed, the towers came down with the full attention of people in a state of shock - ie. logical powers disabled, all that symbolism got injected into the personal and shared subconscious, without analysis or notice of their harmful content.

And of course this would not have been possible without a means to attach the attention of a large part of the human population on the event, repeatedly, visually and emotionally, whether they were even affected directly in any way by the event. Namely, media, visual media especially.

The day it happened, I had been at work - where I had that vision - and after work I went to a electronics store. I was the only person moving, everyone else (there were a few dozen people) was staring at the wall of TV screens showing the hypnotic event again and again - some even had their mouths slightly open, and nobody was talking. I felt like screaming - "Dont look at it! Dont believe it!" - even thou of course I did not know what exactly was wrong, I knew it was all wrong.

Affecting someone to some end is far easier if the mark is unaware of what is being done, far easier when the mark does not know what the real message is. And by bypassing the conscious, rational part of the mind with messages that directly have mythological, symbolical power over the subconscious mind, you can affect emotions and behaviour undetected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychomagic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky

The technique combines art, Eastern philosophies (particularly Zen Buddhism), mysticism and modern psychotherapy to heal patients with emotional problems. The principle relies in the belief that the unconscious mind takes a symbolic act as a fact. So a symbolic act could help solve some types of non rational conflicts.

Jodorowsky spent over fifteen years reconstructing the original form of the Tarot de Marseille. From this work he moved in to more therapeutic work in three areas: psychomagic, psychogenealogy and initiatic massage. Psychomagic aims to heal psychological wounds suffered in life. This therapy is based on the belief that the performance of certain acts can directly act upon the unconscious mind, releasing it from a series of traumas, some of which are passed down from generation to generation. Psychogenealogy includes the studying of the patient’s personality and family tree in order to best address their specific sources.

Jodorowsky has several books on his therapeutic methods, including Psicomagia: La trampa sagrada (Psychomagic: The Sacred Trap) and his autobiography La danza de la realidad (The Dance of Reality). To date he has published over 23 novels and philosophical treaties, along with dozens of articles and interviews. His books are widely read in Spanish and French, but are for the most part unknown to English-speaking audiences.

Throughout his career, Jodorowsky has gained a reputation as a philosopher and scholar who presents the teachings of religion, psychology and spiritual masters, by molding them into pragmatic and imaginative endeavors. All of his enterprises integrate an artistic approach. Currently Jodorowsky dedicates much of his time to lecturing about his work.