Bill Gates To Fund $50 Million Circumcision Campaign

[freemason9]

No, but I can do it cheaply in my garage.

You've misunderstood me, sir. I was looking for some pin money to cover costs, and punative damages for the pain, suffering and trauma of my early infancy caused by some fool chopping off a piece of my dick.

I've heard this whole project is aimed at a new type of laptop Gates is developing. You rub it and it turns into a tower.

Oh, litigation? I can do that cheaply in my garage.

[barracuda]

Oh yeah, I've heard of your place.

[compared2what?]

This is exactly why no single man or woman should have so much financial power. At the very least it is a misallocation of resources, at worst a dubious maiming for a questionable medical benefit.

Agreed. However, they have a very real however ludicrous problem at that joint in that private foundations have to give grants in an amount equal to a minimum of five percent of their assets. The IRS doesn't keep an eye on most, but the Gates Foundation's kinda too big to ignore. And five percent of its assets is roughly equal to about one and a half billion dollars in cash money.

They wouldn't come close if they didn't give some questionable grants. There just aren't enough reputable philanthropic entities doing work in Gates-Foundation mission-compatible fields that have the capacity to use a sum total of one and a half billion dollars a year on the face of the earth for that.

Also, when you stop to consider that as a matter of good stewardship, they're obligated to be investing the other 95 percent as profitably as possible, it seems like a pretty sure bet that whatever harm they might do with questionable grant-making decisions is dwarfed by the harm done by what they put in the marketplace.

I also love how the same people who get up in arms about female circumcision are silent on male circumcision.

Of course you do. Are you even capable of recognizing the reality of people with whom you don't projectively identify? At all? Ever?

[Uncle $cam]

Uncle $cam, I'll presume that was poor judgement. If I see shit like that posted again you're going to banned for it.

Jeff, this is the second time you have threatened to ban me, care to explain why? I'm not being facetious, I truly am not clear.

Can you define, "shit like that'? If it's the website, then I can understand, I did not read it over much, nor had I the energy to check out the whole site or whom runs it, (which I normally do.) hence the reason I said, "perhaps racist" I had no interest in it aside from the picture.

I found it by experimenting with google image search. However I did read enough of it, to know that the rite is indeed exactly what they state. So, I can't defend that, except to reiterate my caveat of 'perhaps racist' ...

So, it may well have been in poor judgment on that end. I am not one to kill the messenger, for the message and I have seen many here do just that, including you. no need to throw the baby, or me, out with the bathwater.

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Just saw lbo's post...

Uncle Scam has just let us know he visits one of the most clearly anti-semitic toilets of a website I have ever seen. Two of the most likely ways he wound up there are 1) being a regular reader or 2) googling some real fucked up search terms.

With all due respect, I think you are being a bit over reactive. Especially, if you think I'm A)anti-semitic and B)a regular reader of such. However, I will admit to googling some fucked up search terms; is that a crime? Indeed, that how I found this place.

[jlaw172364]

Am I capable of recognizing other people's "realities?" Don't you mean subjective perceptions of reality that become so real to them that they forget that they are mere perceptions and mistake them for reality, which always seems to evade human perceptions, given our limitations? Of course, I' m sure if you perceived my opinions more in line with your own you might have a different point of view on my ability to perceive other "realities."

I was not referring to people on this board; I was thinking of a news broadcast where the lady journalist hysterically raged about female circumcision in Africa while nary a word about near-universal male circumcision in the U.S. It's accepted as NORMAL here in the civilized world, to snatch foreskins from male babies for "hygiene" purposes, but we have to liberate Africa from female circumcision.

That being said, I am aware that female circumcision is an entirely different kettle of fish than male circumcision as it as more unpleasant, unwanted side-effects.

But it is essentially forced surgery mandated by families and society on the individual without their input when they cannot quite comprehend what is going on.

I have often found that one can prove open-minded people to be close-minded merely by finding out what they believe to be an undesirable opinion, and then expressing it in the most articulate and logical terms possible, but only as a thought experiment. If they have an outraged emotional reaction, they probably lean towards the close-minded, or at least the credulous; if they have an open mind, they will begin to marshal facts and evidence that refute the argument made.

For example, I mention 9/11 = U.S. Originated Conspiracy to Uncle J; he immediately explodes "That's preposterous, how could you think such a thing?" Uncle M, although somewhat emotional, starts to make rational arguments like, "Someone would have spilled their guts; it would be all over CNN, etc." Never mind the unchecked assumptions present in those attempts at presenting factual evidence, at least its an attempt to present evidence.

[lightningBugout]

Uncle $cam, I'll presume that was poor judgement. If I see shit like that posted again you're going to banned for it.

Jeff, this is the second time you have threatened to ban me, care to explain why? I'm not being facetious, I truly am not clear.

Can you define, "shit like that'? If it's the website, then I can understand, I did not read it over much, nor had I the energy to check out the whole site or whom runs it, (which I normally do.) hence the reason I said, "perhaps racist" I had no interest in it aside from the picture.

I found it by experimenting with google image search. However I did read enough of it, to know that the rite is indeed exactly what they state. So, I can't defend that, except to reiterate my caveat of 'perhaps racist' ...

So, it may well have been in poor judgment on that end. I am not one to kill the messenger, for the message and I have seen many here do just that, including you. no need to throw the baby, or me, out with the bathwater.

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Just saw lbo's post...

Uncle Scam has just let us know he visits one of the most clearly anti-semitic toilets of a website I have ever seen. Two of the most likely ways he wound up there are 1) being a regular reader or 2) googling some real fucked up search terms.

With all due respect, I think you are being a bit over reactive. Especially, if you think I'm A)anti-semitic and B)a regular reader of such. However, I will admit to googling some fucked up search terms; is that a crime? Indeed, that how I found this place.

Uncle Scam -- come on dude. Can't you own that that site is at the bottom of the fucking barrel? It is one thing to accidentally post something by Michael Hoffman or Israel Shamir ( a big mistake I made in grad school) that is dealing with CT or politics, but to post from a toilet humor level of discourse jew hating site that features so many fucked up quotes that the most cursory scan should tip off a monkey as to what it is?

It is nothing personal, but if you don't get why that would piss me and alot of other jews off, I don't know what to say. It is important to leave that stuff in its own ghetto and not let it spill over into places like this one. Or we're all liable to ad-hom attacks, and those are my least fav to deal with.

[lightningBugout]

That being said, I am aware that female circumcision is an entirely different kettle of fish than male circumcision as it as more unpleasant, unwanted side-effects.

But it is essentially forced surgery mandated by families and society on the individual without their input when they cannot quite comprehend what is going on.

Male or female circumcision done to a baby occurs when [the victim / patient] "cannot quite comprehend what is going on."

Are you aware that male and female circumcision both, around the world, are done to children of all ages well into adolescence depending on the particular culture?

And are you aware that female circumcision is a form of ritualistic mutilation that commonly has life-threatening complications and causes PTSD. The UN campaigns against it. Here is their little primer and explanation of why its so vile:

more at http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices1.htm

Calling for an End to Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting
A Holistic Approach to the Abandonment of Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting

Female genital mutilation, also called female genital cutting, refers to the removal of all or part of the female genitalia. Despite global efforts to promote abandonment of the practice, FGM/C remains widespread in many developing countries, and has spread to other parts of the world, such as Europe and North America, where some immigrant families have now settled.

Some 3 million women and girls face FGM/C every year, while some 100 to 140 million have already undergone the practice. The majority live in 28 countries in Africa and Western Asia. The practice has also been reported among certain populations in India, Indonesia and Malaysia.
Immediate and long-term consequences

Female genital mutilation/cutting has both immediate and long-term consequences for the health of women. The effects of FGM/C depend on the type performed, the expertise of the practitioner, the conditions under which it is conducted, the amount of resistance and general health condition of the girl/woman undergoing the procedure. Complications may occur in all types of FGM/C, but are most frequent with infibulations, which includes stitching or narrowing of the vaginal opening.

The practice of FGM/C has had immediate and lifelong psychological effects on the estimated 100 to 140 million women and girls who have been subjected to this procedure. The experience has also been related to a range of psychological and psychosomatic disorders which, in turn, affect eating, sleeping, moods and cognition. Symptoms can manifest themselves in various ways, including those associated with post-traumatic stress syndrome. Severe physical health consequences can also emerge.

[veryscaryrabbit]

That was "poor judgment," Jeff?

I'd've said it was evidence that the fucker was reading a website called

Breaking news and new views on the Jews

where the story preceding the one posted was

Jewish Ritual Murder Now Rampant

and

the one following it is

Do Jews have fantasies about naked women in the mikvah chamber?

It appears to have been written by a 9 year old btw.

But Uncle Scam has just let us know he visits one of the most clearly anti-semitic toilets of a website I have ever seen. Two of the most likely ways he wound up there are 1) being a regular reader or 2) googling some real fucked up search terms.

And you're not banning him? Wow.

This would be like allowing someone to post an article from Stormfront that said "new study show black people eat diet high in fat and salt due to sub-prime intelligence" and sourcing it as - regardless of the perhaps questionable website....

What is even more disgusting is what is revealed by this link to be in the Talmud, and actually in the Talmud, which I never knew about. I quick study of the ancient Talmud verifies this sick twisted shit was in the Talmud. There was also a picture of a rabbi sucking a babies dick after circumcision.

Either you or Uncle $cam is a sicko, and judging by your reaction, my money is on you lightningbugout, as you obviously condone this sort of twisted sick behavior.

“The subject of sex has been a focus for Jewish writers since Biblical times. The Babylonian Talmud, which is the legal code that forms the basis of Jewish regulations, contains many references to sexual mores and commentaries. Many of these regulations are perverse. For example, Yebhamoth 55b permits sexual intercourse with a dead relative, whether the relative was single or married. Kethuboth 11b advocates sex with three year old girls. Sanhedrin 54b-55a permits sodomy with three year old girls and boys under nine. 78a of the same book allows sodomy with a dying person, but only so long as the act is committed in the presence of a rabbi!

Lengthy debates take place within the holy books about whether or not consummation of a marriage on the Sabbath would constitute work. The law-makers conclude that such intercourse is not work and is permissible because “any act of damage does not constitute labor in regard to the Sabbath”!

Even Jesus is included in these bizarre sexual ramblings. Sanhedrin 105a-b tells that “Jesus fornicated with his jackass”. And Gittin 57a holds that “Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in hot semen. Christians are boiled in shit.”

[lightningBugout]

ps. For anyone who's interested in where they come from, the rabbit is joining us courtesy of "the First Amendments Exercise Machine" where "our race is our nation (ORION)" and we say "down with ZOG" as part of our involvement with the "Anti Zionist Alliance."

Our Motto?

"Miscegenation always destroys the races which engage in it. Race mixing is genocide."

[§ê¢rꆧ]

They wouldn't come close if they didn't give some questionable grants. There just aren't enough reputable philanthropic entities doing work in Gates-Foundation mission-compatible fields that have the capacity to use a sum total of one and a half billion dollars a year on the face of the earth for that.

This is kind of astounding to contemplate for me - I mean, no compatible organizations exist to get 'free' money?? But I suspect you are right, which is unfortunate.

Also, when you stop to consider that as a matter of good stewardship, they're obligated to be investing the other 95 percent as profitably as possible, it seems like a pretty sure bet that whatever harm they might do with questionable grant-making decisions is dwarfed by the harm done by what they put in the marketplace.

Yes, but the more I look at this circumcision the more I am convinced that it's more harmful than MS Windows could ever be, and that is saying a lot And I'm circumcised myself, and I think on some level it affected me and I 'remember' the experience.

/end topic, an aside:

c2w, since I got your attention for a second, I've been meaning to ask you about the synchronicity of your initials, c2w, also being a common military acronym

c2w = command control warfare

Is that just a coincidence or a pun just for fun? Irony.

[Jeff]

That was "poor judgment," Jeff?

Okay, maybe mine.

Jeff, this is the second time you have threatened to ban me, care to explain why?

And okay, was it wise of you to remind me of that?

Can you define, "shit like that'? If it's the website, then I can understand

Then we should understand each other. If you can see it's an antisemitic site, don't link to it. If you have an issue with circumcision, spend a few more seconds googling for something less fraught with hate.

So, it may well have been in poor judgment on that end. I am not one to kill the messenger, for the message and I have seen many here do just that, including you.

I'm not killing anyone, just being the doorman to my own no hater playa party.

If that had been your first post, I would have banned you for it.

veryscaryrabbit, you're banned.

[nathan28]

Silly me, I didn't realize this was about teh jooz. Jesus, maybe I should get a St*rmfr*nt account for entertainment value. "zOMG my tranzmisshun iz slipping, iz it teh jooish plot!?!!@11?" etc.

[quote="Yahweh", Genesis 17:11-14]And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. [/quote]

Anyway, I surprised no one has opined about a mystery religion among the rich etc., albeit IIRC circumcision (& piercing, see the bit about Rachel and other women wearing nose rings) was an Israelite thing, while Egyptians were more into tattooing (part of the reason Leviticus proscribes tattooing). I'm not sure what Gates means to do by inducting 500k men into his ritual membership as slaves, but there you go. Same colonialist onward-Christian-soldiers shit, different century.

Willow is right, though I think the complaints voiced here are in jest mostly. It's weird that ritual disfigurement like circumcicion became a public health campaign in the Victorian world, but those were people who thought it was chic to dress table legs.

[Silverfox]

Absolute and utter rubbish and nothing more than a tax dodge for Gates with no way to measure whether he spent it on that or not. It's not exactly like there's going any visible results you can count, now is there?

"Pardon me sir... would you mind....um....err....showing us your.....(ahem).....'you know what' so we validate Mr. Gates claim that he spent the $100.00 he says he did on it?".

Not very bloody likely that, now is it? So they'll simply have to take the man's word for it and that word can be bought for a very small fraction of that $100.00, none of which was ever destined to come his way in the first place. Show them the dotted line and they'll make their mark and "Bob's your uncle" without having to get bobbed and everyone laughs all the way to the bank.

If Gates was so all fired up to save lives, that $50 million could have bought literally tons of food or made a lot of bad water potable, both of which are far more tangible and a far greater priority on the African continent than merely having a few more African men abandon their "turtlenecks" only to die for want of them instead.

We don't need to ask ourselves what the devil the world's coming to. It's already there.

[Stephen Morgan]

According to Herodotus, nathan, the Jews got the idea from the Egyptians.

[nathan28]

According to Herodotus, nathan, the Jews got the idea from the Egyptians.

Yeah, but Herodotus also claims to have seen flying snakes, etc.

Although on edit the Israelites did steal a lot of crap from the Egyptians. "Moses / Moishe," e.g.