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Postby compared2what? » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:17 pm

PW wrote:C2W, your opinion of me must be very low indeed for you to read that level of nastiness in my response.


Oh, Willow. The moment I read those words, I realized that, much to my dismay, I had totally misunderstood what you wrote precisely because I respect, admire, like and enjoy you so much that the harsh little internal critic who represents the part of me that believes I can't be judged harshly enough was able to reach the conclusion that you agreed so speedily that I wasn't out of the driver's seat for long enough even to notice she'd been at the wheel. May I persuade you to take it as a compliment that I was so devastated by the distorted perception that prompted me to attribute my low opinion of myself to you that I felt free to mistakenly judge you as harshly as I mistakenly judge myself? Yeah, I didn't think so. I too would understand that it was one, in a way. But not in any way that means it wasn't my mistake nonetheless. For which I nonetheless therefore owe you my sincerest apologies.

Please forgive me for having momentarily allowed the phantoms I was addressing to so obscure my view of you and myself. I very much regret having caused you a moment's distress, to whatever degree I did. I should have remembered that I know better than that. As I usually do. I'm truly sorry enough to have forgotten it that I feel pretty safe in promising that I won't be forgetting it again.

yours, with respect and affection,

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Postby Cordelia » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:03 pm

[quote="Jeff: BTW, I just found this, and know nothing more about it:

http://adangerousmovie.com/

The scenes with Rue Fox and Eulice Washington are powerful.[/quote]

This is a really disturbing video, especially with the inclusion of photos of the bound boys and the statements by Paul Bonacci, Troy Bonner, Rue Fox and Eulice Washington are heart wrenching. I ordered a bootleg copy of 'Conspiracy of Silence' years ago and found it too difficult to watch then, but blamed it on the poor quality of the video. But the clarity of this video doesn't make it any less disturbing and maybe even more so.
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Postby Project Willow » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:43 pm

compared2what? wrote:...
Please forgive me for having momentarily allowed the phantoms I was addressing to so obscure my view of you and myself. I very much regret having caused you a moment's distress, to whatever degree I did. I should have remembered that I know better than that. As I usually do. I'm truly sorry enough to have forgotten it that I feel pretty safe in promising that I won't be forgetting it again.

yours, with respect and affection,

c2w


Thank you C2W, and please forgive me too, for allowing certain of my own troupe of characters to effect my behavior of late.
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Postby brainpanhandler » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:00 pm

Project Willow wrote:
compared2what? wrote:...
Please forgive me for having momentarily allowed the phantoms I was addressing to so obscure my view of you and myself. I very much regret having caused you a moment's distress, to whatever degree I did. I should have remembered that I know better than that. As I usually do. I'm truly sorry enough to have forgotten it that I feel pretty safe in promising that I won't be forgetting it again.

yours, with respect and affection,

c2w


Thank you C2W, and please forgive me too, for allowing certain of my own troupe of characters to effect my behavior of late.


And I forgive you both for causing me so much distress.
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Postby sw » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:48 pm

I just emailed BMW Worldwide asking them to read the book.

Told them my story asking if they knew King was darkening their image in America.
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Postby lightningBugout » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:30 pm

I've been in contact with Nick. I posted that text in the activism forum. It appears that it has been fleshed out and expanded a bit, but any similarity ends there. As for Grace,well, I can't stand her and would not be surpirised (at all) if she is wholly compromised. But I doubt she will hurt Nick's overall credibility. The book is impeccably and fastidiously researched. I've been working onf it but cannot find a single angle from which to debase it. Both a gift and a curse -- I have absolutely no doubt that, with the right group of folks willing to give their time and energy, we can 100% blow the RA/MC etc story wide wide the fuck open.
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Postby Percival » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:37 pm

lightningBugout wrote:I've been in contact with Nick. I posted that text in the activism forum. It appears that it has been fleshed out and expanded a bit, but any similarity ends there. As for Grace,well, I can't stand her and would not be surpirised (at all) if she is wholly compromised. But I doubt she will hurt Nick's overall credibility. The book is impeccably and fastidiously researched. I've been working onf it but cannot find a single angle from which to debase it. Both a gift and a curse -- I have absolutely no doubt that, with the right group of folks willing to give their time and energy, we can 100% blow the RA/MC etc story wide wide the fuck open.

To be completely blunt - even since I started talking to Nick, I've got programs going off left and right. I am literally falling apart. I know that for many of you RI is just a hobby. But for some of us it is deadly real. And absolutely and utterly terrifying. Don't feel obligated to do much more than this but...pray. For me and for Willow and SW and Lily and Free. And whomever is still hiding in the background. Don't be a Christian if you don't want. And don't even believe mre than you are ready to. But please, help me. And us. Ok? Ok.


Sorry to hear this my friend, if there is anything at all I can do please PM me and consider it done, whatever it may be.
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Postby Free » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:58 pm

LBO wrote:
I've been in contact with Nick. I posted that text in the activism forum. It appears that it has been fleshed out and expanded a bit, but any similarity ends there. As for Grace,well, I can't stand her and would not be surpirised (at all) if she is wholly compromised. But I doubt she will hurt Nick's overall credibility. The book is impeccably and fastidiously researched. I've been working onf it but cannot find a single angle from which to debase it. Both a gift and a curse -- I have absolutely no doubt that, with the right group of folks willing to give their time and energy, we can 100% blow the RA/MC etc story wide wide the fuck open.

To be completely blunt - even since I started talking to Nick, I've got programs going off left and right. I am literally falling apart. I know that for many of you RI is just a hobby. But for some of us it is deadly real. And absolutely and utterly terrifying. Don't feel obligated to do much more than this but...pray. For me and for Willow and SW and Lily and Free. And whomever is still hiding in the background. Don't be a Christian if you don't want. And don't even believe mre than you are ready to. But please, help me. And us. Ok? Ok.



Sorry to hear this LBO, but I'm not at all surprised since you are going against the "no talk" type programing. You need to take care of yourself first and have competent help and support. Sending my prayers.

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Postby compared2what? » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:01 am

Free, please know that for some time now, not a day goes by on which I don't write a version of the titanic apology I owe you for having been too repellently lost in admiration of my own towering excess of totally unjustified self-regard to realize that, actually, being a blind, monstrous bitch to you didn't look quite as cute on me as I thought that falls so far short of adequately expressing how sorry I am that the only reason you haven't heard from me yet is that I don't want to insult you a second time by asking you to accept it as if it did. I don't know that I could really fault you at all if you never forgave me, to be honest. It's not like being implacably satisfied that I wasn't being inexcusably cruel exactly makes that cruelty any more excusable. If anything, the reverse. So please don't forgive me, I guess. But please also consider this a placeholder until I manage to put together the apology you deserve. That way, even if I never do, at least you'll have a gesture in the direction of non-mindless brutality. Which might not be enough, but almost can't fail to be a slight improvement.

Yours, humbly,

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As long as we're in the general neighborhood of apologies.
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Postby compared2what? » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:15 am

I'd also like to make it absolutely clear that however despicable Nancy Grace may be, I don't have any concerns that weren't totally allayed by Jeff's reply to them. My unease was almost entirely due to being uncertain where the call to book him had originated and the wish to make sure that it hadn't stopped anywhere for a wash and brush-up before passing into hands as spotlessly clean as those of lbo and Jeff. I take it on faith that if Nick Bryant is capable of dealing with slippery characters well enough to have written the book, then he's more than capable of dealing with Nancy Grace. And also that he's much too alert to questionable situations to be at much risk of just wandering unquestioningly toward whatever destination the random and unrelated clowns that had been appearing out of nowhere recently had all so unanimously recommended to him. Or whatever.

I didn't fully realize that I was expressing as much alarm as I was when I posted, I'm sorry to say. I might be a little too accustomed to viewing having an exaggerated startle response as not particularly more indicative of danger than suggesting a routine precaution would be. I should really probably consider trying to do something about that. It suddenly occurs to me.
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Postby Project Willow » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:55 am

LBO,
At times I had a voice like that, before I got bitter. Thanks for reminding me what it's like.

You have my prayers, thoughts, etc.
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Postby Brigit » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:18 am

I had no intentions of being here, but I am and it's a riptide that will have to deliver me back of its own accord; the force is too strong to keep fighting. I am not Bridge It. I am not even Brigit! I'm not interested in forgiveness or apologies. I am here, I believe, to help the evil ones come into focus because there is static everywhere else and I have about had it with the magician of denial. I may be a stranger to this site, but I am no stranger to RA/MC. It was a total, albeit characteristic coincidence, that I found this site after finding doodles from boarding school that I sincerely believe are projections of events that tell a story of what happened to me and others. I randomly went to PW's site and impulsively jumped in. I am sorry, but so it goes.

I am going through family artifacts in old boxes and am finally going to brave the private journals of a powerful but deceased family member who perpetrated against me and was a big player in US intelligence, from before the war and through the 80's. I both hope and fear that I will find what I think is in those documents. It is more than relevant to this topic.

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Postby Cordelia » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:31 pm

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Postby Project Willow » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:22 pm

Cordelia, I am not going to go through the exercise of defending the make believe character you've conjured up around my screen name, that would be silly.

If you are still upset, you can use the block feature and block out all posts from me. You are also still invited to let me know how you feel via other means, but please don't derail this thread any more. Thanks.
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Postby hava1 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:44 pm

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