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conspiracy theory [sic] seems to be cropping everywhere [sic], shadowing The Shock Doctrine sitting fairly centrally in Adam Curtis’s most recent piece, increasingly infecting the minds of work colleagues, friends and family.
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MacCruiskeen wrote:So, the point is... I have to say that one of the most inspiring and really pretty moving things about "9/11Truth" is that it has been an ongoing process of very stubborn and largely working-class self-education. It reminds me of my grandfather's generation struggling through Das Kapital or The Soul of Man Under Socialism at midnight, trying to acquire some real understanding of their situation after a day in the factory or down the mine, in the full knowledge that their daily newspapers were packed with murderous lies.
nathan28 wrote:I realize I just implied that a political movement needs a theory behind it. That's not necessarily the case--though at a minimum a political movement needs an unified vision or at least a family resemblance in its desired ends--but it needs more than "Truth." In my rough estimation, the People of the Internet who advocate 9/11 Truth, be they Ickeians or Alex Jones fans or anarchists or libertarians or socialists, imagine some sort of vague good that will inevitably follow the revelation of 9/11 Truth, as though it were the eschaton, that truth might be forced on the leaders of men and somehow this truth will do something--just what isn't, and has not been, clear to me.
nathan28 wrote:And to get some perspective: 9/11/01 was simply not that big of an event compared to anything any nation besides the United States has experienced. I suspect the same way the bombing of the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, etc., are largely footnotes [...]
Later in life Spock wrote a book entitled "Dr. Spock on Vietnam" ...
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In 1962, Spock joined The Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy, otherwise known as SANE. Spock was politically outspoken and active in the movement to end the Vietnam War. In 1968, he and four others (including William Sloane Coffin, Benjamin Spock, Marcus Raskin, Mitchell Goodman, and Michael Ferber) were singled out for prosecution by then Attorney General Ramsey Clark on charges of conspiracy to counsel, aid, and abet resistance to the draft.[8] Spock and three of his alleged co-conspirators were convicted, although the five had never been in the same room together. His two-year prison sentence was never served; the case was appealed and in 1969 a federal court set aside his conviction.
In 1967, Spock was to be nominated as Martin Luther King, Jr.'s vice-presidential running mate at the National Conference for New Politics over Labor Day weekend in Chicago. According to William F. Pepper's Orders to Kill, however, the conference was broken up by agents provocateurs working for the government.
9/11/01 was simply not that big of an event
9/11 Truth is simply positivism in the vernacular. It's not informed by any theory besides positivism and doesn't have an ends unless you tack one on to it
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And to get some perspective: 9/11/01 was simply not that big of an event compared to anything any nation besides the United States has experienced. I suspect the same way the bombing of the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, etc., are largely footnotes in light of the causi belli (?latin halp?) they became, 9/11 will fade into an opening paragraph somewhere in a history textbook. Even in the United States, more children and teenagers die from gunshots every year.
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