Sane girlfriend reports picking up TV signals in her head

[Elvis]

I do fall sleep with the radio on (news stuff: BBC late-night, NPR otherwise, just because there's not much else on, all-newswise). This results in some interesting dreams.

One of those more vivid dreams was (presumably) based on a sound bite of George W. Bush, which my dream expanded into an entire afternoon of me hanging out with Dubya.

We were alone most of the time, just walking around while Bush made little jokes about everything (reinforcing Paul O'Neill's impression of Bush as a 'regular guy' who as President was in over his head). I kept thinking to myself (in the dream), "This is unfucking-believable, I'm hanging out with the President of the United States!" At the same time I reminded myself that one of my best friend's grandfather (in real life) had been a Houston oil man, so it was not impossible that I could have met a Bush; quite unlikely, really, but that fact made the dream plausible .

At one point we jumped into Dubya's golf cart and he said, "Hey, you want me to teach you to play golf?!" I said, "Okay, sure!!" Then I woke up.

No help here solving 82_20's mystery, but I just 'had to share'.

[norton ash]

Auditory hallucinations commonly accompany fever, sleep-deprivation and a raging immune system.

Ask anyone who's gone through serious drug or alcohol withdrawal-- the music and the muttered messages just keep going.

[Stephen Morgan]

Maybe she was mucking you about.

Hmmm, interesting. I know there is a thread on here somewhere, older, about how advertisers are using technology to transmit advertisment into the brain. Can't remember where, though. Also, I've heard of people picking up radio stations from the fillings in their teeth. Dunno if there is any credence in that or not, or if it's an urban legend. Made me think of that.

Lucille Ball, apparently a famous American, claimed to have foiled a Communist plot to subvert Hollywood when she overheard their secret radio messages on her teeth. Probably wasn't true, though.

[Stephen Morgan]

I once heard voices coming from my TV. Sounded like taxi radio. Cable TV, though.

[beeline]

Auditory hallucinations commonly accompany fever, sleep-deprivation and a raging immune system.

Ask anyone who's gone through serious drug or alcohol withdrawal-- the music and the muttered messages just keep going.

More like a thousand screaming monkeys in your head.

[barracuda]

82_28, could you ask her what happened on the season finale of Lost? I missed that one.

[psynapz]

Maybe she was mucking you about.

She is a wily kitten, 82_28. But she also seems quite sincere.

Then again, we may have messed with her head inadvertently.

(Will post.)

[yathrib]

Probably not quite the same thing, but when I used to meditate I would occasionally find myself looking literally through other people's eyes. Usually they were quite ordinary people doing ordinary things, like grocery shopping for example. Even today, I sometimes hear other people's thoughts. Again, nothing particularly fancy or interesting, just the monkey-mind chatter that we all have. I know better than to tell people I actually know and interact with about this. When I was in counseling in the 1990s, I told my therapist about it, and I could see the wheels turning. After that, she couldn't get rid of me fast enough.

[compared2what?]

Probably not quite the same thing, but when I used to meditate I would occasionally find myself looking literally through other people's eyes. Usually they were quite ordinary people doing ordinary things, like grocery shopping for example. Even today, I sometimes hear other people's thoughts. Again, nothing particularly fancy or interesting, just the monkey-mind chatter that we all have. I know better than to tell people I actually know and interact with about this. When I was in counseling in the 1990s, I told my therapist about it, and I could see the wheels turning. After that, she couldn't get rid of me fast enough.

Although I dimly recall reading that there are some ways of meditating that enable the meditator to freeze the hypnagogic state at later and later stages over time, in sheer brain wave terms.

Which I don't regard as at all mutually exclusive of thought-hearing abilities, actually. It's kind of like: It's almost a psychiatric cliche that people who are clasically bipolar often believe that they're psychic, which is, imo, attributable to the fact that they are. Except without the implications of craziness as applied to you, honey. Or as applied to the classically bipolar, for that matter. That's actually not what I'm trying to say at all.

I just mean that there are some neurological states that are receptive to sensory stimuli that wouldn't even be perceptible in other neurological state, and that aren't apprehensible as anything remotely resembling what one conventionally experiences as consciously perceived and processed sensory stimuli. They're just apprehensible in their entirety in an unmediated-by-consciousness kind of a way. And they're usually totally on-the-ball unless you start thinking about them, in which case errors of interpretation might occur. As they do.

Oh, you know what I mean, don't you? I hope so. Because I kind of made a mess out of the above. I think. Which can sometimes be occlusive. Or illuminating. I mean that thinking can be, in case that's not clear. It sort of depends on.....And now I'm just making it worse.

Probably best if I just reiterate the "Oh, you know what I mean, don't you?" and hit "submit," therefore. But tell me if you don't, needless to say.

[compared2what?]

When I'm in that twilight space between sleep and wakefulness I've begun to notice perfectly formed faces of individuals of people who I've never met. They are perfectly formed and in the moments after they are so detailed I could recount their every wringle and blemish - though the specifics do fade after a few moments. Its weird because these individuals are not remarkable in anyway except by their perfect individualization.

Other than their physical details my mind registers no other impression which, in itself, is also weird because usually when I see faces in real life I form some kind of psychic impression of who this person I'm seeing is as a intentive social sentient being. No, these faces are just faces - perfectly reticulated individuals who, to my knowledge, don't actually exist. Its so bizarrely idiosyncratic that I would never have even mentioned any of this had not other posters noted similar phenomena.

I'm not an expert on this issue, but it's my non-expert understanding that such things are not universal by any means, but not extraordinarily rare either. And by themselves not pathological. (I mean: Not symptomatic of, say, narcolepsy absent other symptoms, and not medication-induced, in the absence of medication, and not indicative of sleep-deprivation if you're neither sleep-deprived in any measurable sense and don't have distorted perceptions, hallucinations, extreme emotional lability and sleepiness during your waking hours, et cetera.)

Also, fwiw, there's a nothing-personal-to-it quality about the people who aren't really talking about things that, when waking, I'm barely even aware of knowing the first thing about whom I hear talking about those things when I'm falling asleep that's very similar to what you feel (or don't feel) about the people whose faces you see.

It's a very non-inflected thing, is I guess how I would put it. And apart from that, as realistic and as fully realized as reality is. I mean, when I hear them, I very briefly attend to them in a way that's inherently wakeful-ish not sleepful-ish. So in that sense, I guess I could say that they disturb my rest. Despite which, they're not really experientially intrusive in any way. In part, because they don't have any of the numerous personal values or attributes that real people talking would have to me. If I heard them. And they were real.

It's more like they're just people, who knows what people, talking amongst themselves. Which is fine with me. They've got a right, same as everybody else, non-existent though they may be, imo.

[yathrib]

I think I get it, kinda sorta. Anyway, *I* know I'm not crazy or out of touch with reality. If I were, I think I'd see better stuff.

Although I dimly recall reading that there are some ways of meditating that enable the meditator to freeze the hypnagogic state at later and later stages over time, in sheer brain wave terms.

Which I don't regard as at all mutually exclusive of thought-hearing abilities, actually. It's kind of like: It's almost a psychiatric cliche that people who are clasically bipolar often believe that they're psychic, which is, imo, attributable to the fact that they are. Except without the implications of craziness as applied to you, honey. Or as applied to the classically bipolar, for that matter. That's actually not what I'm trying to say at all.

I just mean that there are some neurological states that are receptive to sensory stimuli that wouldn't even be perceptible in other neurological state, and that aren't apprehensible as anything remotely resembling what one conventionally experiences as consciously perceived and processed sensory stimuli. They're just apprehensible in their entirety in an unmediated-by-consciousness kind of a way. And they're usually totally on-the-ball unless you start thinking about them, in which case errors of interpretation might occur. As they do.

Oh, you know what I mean, don't you? I hope so. Because I kind of made a mess out of the above. I think. Which can sometimes be occlusive. Or illuminating. I mean that thinking can be, in case that's not clear. It sort of depends on.....And now I'm just making it worse.

Probably best if I just reiterate the "Oh, you know what I mean, don't you?" and hit "submit," therefore. But tell me if you don't, needless to say.

[lupercal]

Voices in the Head - Washington Post on Electronic Harassment Technologies

'An academic paper written for the Air Force in the mid-1990s mentions the idea of a weapon that would use sound waves to send words into a person's head. "The signal can be a 'message from God' that can warn the enemy of impending doom, or encourage the enemy to surrender." In 2002, the Air Force Research Laboratory patented precisely such a technology: using microwaves to send words into someone's head.'

{snip}

Below is yet another major media article on this key topic, this one revealing that some people who hear voices in their heads may actually be the subject of electronic harassment. As these articles and thousands of pages of declassified government documents make clear, mind control has been secretly studied for many decades.

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http://www.wanttoknow.info/voicesinhead ... harassment

And here's part of the longish WAPO article cited above:

Mind Games
New on the Internet: a community of people who believe the government is beaming voices into their minds. They may be crazy, but the Pentagon has pursued a weapon that can do just that.
Washington Post Magazine Cover Story By Sharon Weinberger, Sunday, January 14, 2007

{snip}

The members of this confessional "club" are not your usual victims. This isn't a group for alcoholics, drug addicts or survivors of childhood abuse; the people connecting on the call are self-described victims of mind control -- people who believe they have been targeted by a secret government program that tracks them around the clock, using technology to probe and control their minds.

The callers frequently refer to themselves as TIs, which is short for Targeted Individuals, and talk about V2K -- the official military abbreviation stands for "voice to skull" and denotes weapons that beam voices or sounds into the head. In their esoteric lexicon, "gang stalking" refers to the belief that they are being followed and harassed: by neighbors, strangers or colleagues who are agents for the government.

{snip}

Until recently, people who believe the government is beaming voices into their heads would have added social isolation to their catalogue of woes. But now, many have discovered hundreds, possibly thousands, of others just like them all over the world. Web sites dedicated to electronic harassment and gang stalking have popped up in India, China, Japan, South Korea, the United Kingdom, Russia and elsewhere. Victims have begun to host support meetings in major cities, including Washington. Favorite topics at the meetings include lessons on how to build shields (the proverbial tinfoil hats), media and PR training, and possible legal strategies for outlawing mind control.

The biggest hurdle for TIs is getting people to take their concerns seriously. A proposal made in 2001 by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to ban "psychotronic weapons" (another common term for mind-control technology) was hailed by TIs as a great step forward. But the bill was widely derided by bloggers and columnists and quickly dropped.

{snip}

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed for this article, the Air Force released unclassified documents surrounding that 2002 patent -- records that note that the patent was based on human experimentation in October 1994 at the Air Force lab, where scientists were able to transmit phrases into the heads of human subjects, albeit with marginal intelligibility. Research appeared to continue at least through 2002. Where this work has gone since is unclear -- the research laboratory, citing classification, refused to discuss it or release other materials.

The official U.S. Air Force position is that there are no non-thermal effects of microwaves. Yet Dennis Bushnell, chief scientist at NASA's Langley Research Center, tagged microwave attacks against the human brain as part of future warfare in a 2001 presentation to the National Defense Industrial Association about "Future Strategic Issues."

"That work is exceedingly sensitive" and unlikely to be reported in any unclassified documents, he says.

Meanwhile, the military's use of weapons that employ electromagnetic radiation to create pain is well-known, as are some of the limitations of such weapons. In 2001, the Pentagon declassified one element of this research: the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses electromagnetic radiation to heat skin and create an intense burning sensation.

{snip}

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01399.html

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Anyway, I can't say whether anyone's experience is purely psychological or not, but I can tell you that I've heard similiar broadcasts which I never found the source of, but figured had to be somebody's radio outside. It happens early in the morning, say 2 or 3 am, on those wretched days I need to get going early. It's never crossed my mind that it was psychosomatic, and while I wouldn't rule that out, I doubt it. But then I've never figured out where it comes from.

[psynapz]

Possibly related.

[DeltaDawn]

Was going to stay out of this, because of still not being able to put links, but Elfi (As always ty dear) and Lupercal put in some links about programs actually doing this...sooooo...I truly believe the Air Force/Navy have the ability to do this, I truly believe they keep up with some in this way, and I truly believe that many MKUltra victims are tracked this way, because of NOT believing it was just a thing they did, then let them live un-'handled'. Many believe they could be called back into 'action' and how else would that happen?

Of course (reason I stayed out of here so long) you can be sick, or half asleep/awake, meditating etc. and hear things BUT....Lupercal brought up something that has happened to me that doesn't relate to any of these states. Not often but more than I'd like, I have been awakened at 2 or 3 in the morning by a radio that isn't quite on a station but in between, can't quite hear anything clear, but hear several things, like I want to scream for someone to just pick a station. I used to go into my son's room thinking he left his music on, although never found that to be the problem. Besides it goes away once I get out of bed. Also this has happened since military days and waaaay before the son.

Just saying that reading about these 'frequencies' and how they are being applied, knowing about the cold war programs, etc. I myself cannot just say it's being sick (meaning the flu) as said in OP. This is vewwwy intewesting, thanks for the stories and links.