Who Is Gordon Duff?

[compared2what?]

Who is "we?"

If I am not for myself, then who will be for...

I am he as you are he as you are me as we are all...

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You win.

[Iamwhomiam]

Whee!

[vanlose kid]

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Vanlose kid, because of the volatility of this subject, I do wish that you had instead communicated to Alice privately your concerns. Perhaps you may never come to agreement, but walking away solves nothing, at least in this case. You should at least try to resolve your differences of opinion, imo. Without engaging diplomacy there is little hope for peace.

right, i hear you. let me see.

you may be right re pm'ing AtK privately, it might have worked. but i didn't, so that i can't fix. as for my concerns, this started in one of several wikileaks threads where Duff was introduced as a source "on the merit of his argument", but as c2w? pointed out, once you subtract the baseless claims and wild conjectures, there's not much of an argument left. what's left, as far i as could see, was an agenda. – just let me note here that i did not introduce the "writings" of Duff into this forum. – so, seeing that all i could see in Duff was one specific agenda, i had to go have a look.

here are some Duff quotes:

Jews used to make up 3% of America’s population. They are now only 1.4% but control well over 40% of America’s wealth. It doesn’t take a genius or a “Smedley Butler” fan to figure out that the root cause of all war is economic gain and that American Jews have gained the most by America’s wars. With our ”volunteer army” increasingly becoming less “volunteer” and more “feudal” in nature with Americas burgeoning population of poor and unemployed, many of them from non-Jewish ethnic minorities becoming “over-represented” among those in combat, those who have benefited most from the American dream, America’s Jewish population, our wealthiest and most powerful sector, also have the most to be thankful for.

American Jews are also the only group with military training, claimed to be the highest quality in the world, who are opting not to serve America during wartime while family after family of poor Americans are being destroyed by endless combat deployments to keep Israeli interests secure.

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/25/gordon-duff-has-anti-semitism-made-jews-boycott-the-war-on-terror/

...Today it is not Israel but the role of Jews in America we talk about. If Muslims in America organized behind Syria or Libya and those countries did what Israel is doing, no excuses, Israel has a totally nutty government that is out of control, our Muslim brothers would be burned out, put in detention camps like we did with the Japanese or worse. Instead of that, America’s Jews have taken total control of our news, entertainment and political arena. This in itself isn’t bad but when working with Christian Zionist extemists and the nutty government of Israel, it has been a total disaster.

...For whatever reason, Germans are working hard to prove fewer died than 6 million. I have visited and photographed many of the 1500 plus camps in Europe for Jews, POWs and others Germany wanted to destroy. The true story of the holocaust is, historically, much different than the one told but I see nothing so far to tell me that it is totally different. This is an issue for history, not politics. Separating the two is hard as agendas take over.

If people want to dig around in gas chambers or try to prove something didn’t happen, let them. Make them prove it. It would be nice if honest and competent historians studied the era free of prejudice and turned out a supportable history of Germany during the Nazi era. The one we have is almost a total lie. Germans know this but few others do.

Simply do what is honest, seek the truth and live with it. We aren’t going to learn anything until we learn to let history guide us instead of guiding history. Damn, that sounded almost intelligent.

...Israel is in the process of building an empire of gas and oil in what had been the Soviet Union. The governments of many of those countries, Georgia and the “stan” countries are unstable, some horribly corrupt and Israel is moving in. To facilitate this intelligent move they are doing some really stupid things, however. One of them is pushing the US into Iraq and Afghanistan thru their lobby in the US and control of news and, perhaps, other unseemly acts, even to the point of criminality, to help them achieve their long term goals.

This has to stop. However, with their control of our news and Congress, Whitehouse too, Obama as much as Bush, it isn’t going to happen. This is heading the world for total disaster.

Everyone should read about the Khazars. This will explain alot. The vast majority of Jews are of European origin. The “homeland in Israel” stuff is extremist rhetoric. This is the simple truth, deal with it and move on.

...I don’t like the idea of “American Jews.’ I like the idea of Americans, Muslim, Catholic or like the real majority, regular people who want to work and be left alone. We had competing special interest groups. Israel, with their own country and a powerful population in the US that controls much of Banking (organized crime), media and so much else and lives under “special rules” has come out on top.

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/09/gordon-duff-the-new-jewish-question/

The most recent evidence of this generation of “Dazed and Confused” Jewish youth may be the Al Qaeda operations in Yemen in support of the Nigerian born “Crotch Bomber” attack in Detroit. Intelligence units in Yemen seized laptop computers from the Al Qaeda operatives who trained and supplied Abdul Mohammad. The computers showed a long trail of emails to Israel. Though there is a strong desire to blame the Mossad for this operation, these emails are as likely to have been simple family communication with relatives in Israel and not direction from Mossad terrorist leaders planning “false flag” attacks.

Similarly, when the terrorist Abdul Mohammad was aided through airports in Ghana, Nigeria and the Netherlands without a passport or visa, eventually landing in Detroit, despite testimony of “Indian looking” individuals assisting with customs and even filming the attack on the plane, airport security personnel are, for the most part, either Israel or employees of Israeli companies. Were some of these part of this rebellious group of “rogues” that Ambassador Oren has been warning the world about, young Jews choosing violence to side against their own country and its allies?

With Israeli companies controlling airport and port security and most of the worlds highest traffic facilities, evidence of this movement of Jewish youth toward the most extreme forms of Islam may, in the end, represent the source of our next major terrorist attack. As to the reasons, why these children of good families, well educated, and otherwise subjected to none of the factors normally attributed to the growth of extremist movements, would become terrorists, we have been unable to discover.

With thousands of Israelis working in high security positions in as many as 80 nations around the world, this new threat, potentially opening ports to weapons of mass destruction or airports and even nuclear facilities to terrorist attacks by Al Qaeda suicide bombers, is a frightening new element in war against the ever growing number of global terrorist threats.

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/29/gordon-duff-dazed-and-confused-why-jews-are-joining-al-quaeda/

The only real enemy Jews in America can have are themselves. When Netanyahu tells us how easily America can be “moved,” what he isn’t saying is how the moving is backward. I don’t believe he wishes to build an Antisemitic America that will force the 14 million Jews here to flee to the Middle East. Are there that many Jews in America? Sure there are and so what?

Ignoring the history of Zionist plots is also a form of denial that is inexcusable. Jews are no longer taught that synagogues were burned by fellow Jews to encourage immigration to Israel or that, often as not, when a swastika is painted somewhere, a Jew is responsible. The excuse given? These are done to unite Jews, increase awareness and to strengthen Israel. These tactics would be correct and may, at one time have been but today?

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/21/gordon-duff-how-antisemitism-cons-the-jew/

For years, America’s military has been divided, competent military professionals and patriots on one side and Christian Zionists, loyal to Israel and addicted to a propaganda “dreamworld” on the other.

Americans sat, on 9/11, with their military “asleep at the switch,” their president in a daze and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, perhaps out of confusion, we may never know, talking about airliners being shot down and the Pentagon being attacked by missiles. Yes, he said these things, things he couldn’t “unsay” but things the press showed once and quickly buried. Something terribly wrong happened, something years in planning, but not planned in a cave in Afghanistan. Everywhere investigators look, one thing pops up, Israel. The moment that door is opened, it is slammed shut, often with threats, often with more than threats.

We may never know the full extent of the brutality used against those who have spoken up. We know that Arab leaders can be assassinated anywhere, any time. America will remain silent and the news will always support Israel. Israel owns the news.

What about the “suicided” British scientist Dr. David Kelly, the man responsible for moving the Israeli nukes out of South Africa? Reliable sources tell us he was ready to come forward with the facts about a massive political scandal, a cover-up of lost nuclear weapons, blackmail and bribery.

Do we really believe that there are so many unlucky United States senators? Crashes of small aircraft has done more to control the US Senate than any election, control used to set the stage for a generation of wars. With AIPAC capable of buying any election, capable, willing and doing it, not an American organization at all but a lobby for a foreign government, one that likes America “not so much” as we are led to believe, is representative government in the United States dead? When someone swears an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, is it meaningless when the government itself is no longer “American?”

Control of America, or, more appropriately, control of America’s vast military, tired and worn as it is, represents the key to ruling the world. Fooling the people, buying the government and duping America’s military through infiltrating every level of critical decision making and communications is a task, not only attempted but one long since accomplished. Problem is, even with, not only control of the press, but powerful news organizations directly under foreign control like Fox News, word is getting out.

The American people are afraid, they see disaster coming. Everyone is waiting to see what city is chosen to be sacrificed. Will it be Phoenix or Sacramento or perhaps Atlanta? This is the real fear, the “not so secret” fear in the heart of every American.


When and if it happens, Americans are not so willing to believe a few goatherds in a cave 8,000 miles away planned it, not anymore.

Why do you think Senator Lieberman has demanded a “kill switch” on the internet? Why do you think “censorship czar” Cass Sunstein has asked to have accusations of Israeli complicity in 9/11 made a criminal act and openly advocated infiltration of groups pushing for an honest investigation. Who is the real “conspiracy theorist” now?


With thousands of of military and intelligence officials, retirees openly, others hiding their rage, aware of the decades of Israeli spying and the 9/11 cover-up, this divide has never been so strong. What we don’t know is how many serving today have the personal courage to speak out openly. Now the threat is nuclear weapons, not just a “shoebox dirty bomb” but full sized nukes, the weapons we have been hunting for years, claiming Saddam was prepared to use them “at 45 minutes notice,” the same nukes “sent to Syria by ambulance.” They could be anywhere and anyone could be ready to use one. There is only one possible culprit capable of doing this, however, only one country with something to gain and the willingness to act.

“We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital . . . our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us.” (Israeli military historian, Martin van Creveld)

//http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_6341.shtml

I was asked during an interview on Al Jazeera the question that every Muslim lives with every day, "How can a small country like Israel control America." My answer was simple. Imagine a friend comes to you screaming, "Someone stole my house!" You ask him what happened. His response; "I put my house up for sale, I asked $200,000 dollars. A man came to the door and said he wanted my house. He gave me $200,000 bucks and now I have no home."

Israel doesn’t buy influence and control in America, we sold it to them. The price tags were there, had been there forever. Anyway, there isn’t such a thing as Israel. Yes, it is a country, like America but we don’t exist either, not really, we never did. Our Civil War proved this. A country is like a company with a flag, a company that doesn’t have to pay its workers, can even jail or kill them if it wants to. Real countries today are owned by stockholders, we call them banks, who hire managers who work for them.

We call this "government."

This should explain why the two American political parties act the way they do. They really don’t exist. American history classes are filled with fun days and boring days. During the boring days, the teacher talks about monetary policies and banking. In 1791, Alexander Hamilton set up the Central Bank of the United States. It was controlled by England, our enemy, at least on the surface but was run by the Rothschilds.

//http://www.zooot.eu/content/gordon-duff-can-1-stop-global-criminal-syndicate

Was it Osama bin Laden or the Mossad? Was it the Illuminati or the Council on Foreign Relations? Did they do it together? Where was Marc Anthony after 9/11 when we really needed him? A sad thing, perhaps beyond comprehension, is that we know more about Julius Caesar than we know about or own recent history. A few days ago someone sent me a link to a video by David Irving, the British author who professionally debunks everything.

Irving, famous of late for taking on the holocaust, is the “go to guy” on World War II and Germany in particular. His research is, hands down, the best out there and he loves humiliating others for being duped by writing academic garbage based on secondary sources, too often proven, not just unreliable, but utter fiction.

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/02/gordon-duff-history-never-happened-who-is-david-irving/
(by way of st-rmfr-nt)

43 Pakistanis were killed in a terror attack, killed for supporting Palestinians in Gaza. The signs had been there, the Wikileaks attempt to put responsibility for the Taliban on Veterans Today editor General Hamid Gul. This was debunked in a heartbeat. This attack was vicious and clearly the work of Israel. This was a terror attack meant as a message to the people of the world telling them that if they rally in support of those imprisoned in Gaza, they will be murdered.

Is it a gift for the Jewish people of Israel, another revenge attack, seemingly in response to the shooting of 4 Israeli Jews in Hebron, an attack curiously timed to disrupt peace talks between Jewish and Muslim Palestinians in Washington?

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/03/gordon-duff-is-israel-running-the-taliban/

Hitler, always funded quite mysteriously. His German backers were penniless but Hitler was always drowning in resources, private lanes, luxurious accomodations and anything else he needed. That Hitler had a long and well established partnership with Zionists for a final solution to the Jewish problem in Europe is part of a secret history that exists but is feared as it seemingly cannot coexist with conventional views of the Holocaust. Could Zionists push Hitler to resettle European Jews to Palestine and yet have the process, by 1945 turn into something unforeseen, something horrific?

Zionist policies in Germany required that Jews be forced to resettle in Palestine. Zionists shared their hatred of the British with the Nazis. Thus, a highly organized Jewish terrorist organization could totally undermining British control of that region, once enough “settlers” were in place. Zionist leaders agreed with Hitler, not only in his policy toward the Jews but in his other theories as well, including and especially his plans for a totalitarian state and world conquest.

//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/31/gordon-duff-cleansing-history-of-the-hitler-zionist-nexus/

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the above quotes should give people an idea of Duff's framework, the way he views the world. – impeccable source?

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i don't see much difference between Duff or Shamir (pre-wikileaks as far as AtK is concerned) or Bollyn or any other number of "writers" who peddle this stuff. there are no arguments that are worth being "taken on their own merit". they have no merit. there's an agenda, and it's been introduced to this forum. it's not a thesis, it's an article of faith. there's no argument against it, because it functions as the framework through which all else is seen.

some reactions to my postings of late have turned on the idea that i'm attacking AtK's person. what can i say? if anyone wants to be essentialist about it (whether metaphysical of genetic) they're welcome to. i don't buy the idea that calling someone out on their views is equivalent to attacking their person. especially since i have no idea who the person is. my quibble is with the ZOG dogma. has been all along and i don't really care who's promoting it. i'm going to call that person out. end of.

now some might say there are degrees and nuances and fine points of legalese that must be carefully parsed, but i don't think that matters. why? because if the world is really headed the way it seems to be headed then the people who act on the ZOG thesis won't be going around asking "are you a zionist jew or just a plain vanilla one?" before they off them.

and if anyone wants to argue that AtK's not like that, and she's their bestest pm buddy, then maybe they should ask her not to drag her "irreproachable sources" onto this forum. or not. whatever.

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[Wombaticus Rex]

^^This approach makes sense -- damning quotes from the actual source in question. Way more fruitful and logical than the post you started off with.

[vanlose kid]

GORDON DUFF: SELLING WIKILEAKS, SELLING HATE FOR AMERICA
November 30, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 213 Comments

JULIAN ASSANGE, THE NEW “YASSER ARAFAT”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
(With commentary by Steve Johnson)

Wikileaks has divided the world into two camps, those who love Wikileaks as a slap in the face for the United States and those who recognize the stench of Wikileaks for what it is, simple Israeli propaganda. Millions around the world look at Wikleaks as poor, harried Julian Assange and his personal struggle against the evil empire of Bush/Obama America. Hate, envy, oh, there is lots of envy here, America stimulates that with its highways filled with gas guzzling cars, eating half the world’s meat, all the best music, television and a military that scares the begeezus out of everyone. What’s not to hate?

Many American’s are buying in on this hate. Journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave calls these people “self hating Americans.” He has, at times, coined me their leader. Consider this my resignation. There is nothing in Wikileaks about fixing problems, the job honest critics of America believe in, or at least should. Wikileaks is cheap sleazy marketing, dime store junk in a shiny package.

The biggest challenge of all had to be marketing Julian Assange. Assange began life as a reputed computer hacker though never punished when caught. This is where the smell begins. Other hackers waste away in prison, not Assange. Assange seems to have a guardian angel. It didn’t take Assange long to attack the 9/11 truth movement, the single area where America and the world actually want information leaked. Getting a 9/11 leak out of Assange is not likely, not even since the rest of the world learned about building 7 being demolished by exposives.

We are all still waiting for Assange to explain his way out of that one. We didn’t know who he was protecting over 9/11. We still aren’t sure but, more and more, the Assange 9/11 denial, with the revelations about Building 7, is another smoking gun, one pointed at Wikileaks as phony, one pointing at Israel as looking more than a bit involved.

BRADLEY MANNING, ASSANGE'S REPUTED "INSIDE MAN" IN THE PENTAGON
Julian Assange’s next incarnation after his introduction to the world as the poor harried gay-boy, getting America’s secrets from his paramour in the Pentagon had to have a more manly edge. Assange, wicked, mysterious and somewhat sleazy and his cohort, boyish, Midwestern, obviously seduced into betraying his country wasn’t playing well, not everyone is “gay friendly.” Assange had to be repackaged for a broader demographic.

This was how it began to play out, a fiction of course, as there was never a boyfriend and there were no real leaks at all. It was all an invention, a myth, cheap marketing, selling Wikileaks, building a brand for it as though it were pantyhose or a cold remedy made out of rat poison. Wikileaks was a tool, one to be taken out when needed and put away when the work is done.

Wikileaks were nothing but the scraps, the chickenfeed, left over from a major spy organization that accessed real secrets, nuclear weapons, war plans. Those were sold on the open market, as we are learning. Wikileaks was the political arm, spreading rumors, dissent, and readying the the world for war, preparing the public for what is coming, by the people who are planning “what is coming.”

Wikileaks is war by deception. We all know who does that. Maybe even the same people who planned and executed what we have now, starting with 9/11 onward.

The leaks themselves started as inane, then went to “youtube forgettable.” On any given day, more secret information hits the mainstream press, or the “alternative news” or, better yet, the “fringe” press, all exceeding Wikileaks, certainly in quality and substance. Wikileaks began as reprocessed new stories and chickenfeed, all “gussied up” through what is commonly called a “guerrilla marketing” program, the same way the movie Blair Witch Project was sold.

Wikileaks was all “sizzle” but no steak dinner. There was one catch, however. The mainstream news was all over Wikileaks, when it was nothing, when they leaked nothing, almost as though they had received orders from above to sell Wikileaks because it was going to be needed for something later.

This, in particular, made Wikileaks seem wrong. News organizations spend millions working “inside sources.” Now they are supposedly made to look like total incompetents by this “upstart” out of nowhere? Not only do they lap it up, they do it with a smile. Shouldn’t the news have turned on Wikileaks, not just competition but debunking the press more than anything else?

This was the obvious side the news should have taken, what they should have seen, even what the alternative news should have seen in a minute but so few did. This is where it became clear. It wasn’t simply the old story of Zionist control of the press, you know the one, Jews run everything, own everything, make up the news and laugh at the rest of us, no, it wasn’t just that. It was something more simple, more basic.

THE NEW IMPROVED JULIAN ASSANGE
Wikileaks tapped into the motherload, a well of hate across Latin America, Canada, Europe, Russia, the Arab world, Paksitan and India. Countries that would incinerate each other for the fun of it all love Wikileaks. In some areas of the world, hating America is more popular than cricket.

Wikileaks sells hate. Wikileaks finds its energy by tapping into the envy the world feels for the United States and helps twist that into hate. They are doing it, not as an end in itself, but as a way allowing their sponsor, one so obvious they should be asking for credit, perhaps we could call it “Zioleaks.”

As author Jeff Gates points out, Wikileaks is simple “game theory,” an Israeli psychological warfare operation meant to provide cover for acts of genocide they have taken part in. Gates also points out “means, motive and opportunity” as the criteria for understanding Wikileaks. These common watchwords known to any criminal investigator prove one thing, Wikileaks simply does not exist, not the cover story, not the myth.

What will a country like Israel do when it becomes public that they are stealing organs from prisoners they arrested for throwing rocks at their tanks and bulldozers. Read Gilad Atzmon: http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voi ... dy-parts-t

How many teenagers are being paid by Germany as holocaust survivors? One group alone conned Germany out of $42 million. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/fbi ... d-1.323840

A country like that will stoop to anything and for Israel, a nation that has an odd history, so much to hide, so many lies, so many crimes, uncounted crimes, so many crimes that the holocaust is dragged out as a smokescreen…

Then we have the myth, Wikileaks, not selling so well as a gay pair. Assange has to be reborn, first as the new “Yassar Arafat,” the “man without a country,” said to be fleeing from one recording studio and one 5 star hotel to another, inches ahead of the CIA and MI-6. We know about Arafat also. One of my friends used to fly him. He did so as a Lt. Col. in the United States Air Force. Why did the world’s greatest terrorist leader have an American plane at his disposal? Oh how we lie, oh how we build those strawmen.

You’ve heard stories about Osama bin Laden being on dyalisis in an American hospital? I wonder if the Air Force was flying him too?

VETERANS TODAY'S KEN O'KEEFE SUGGESTING A MORE CREDIBLE LOOK FOR JULIAN ASSANGE
Assange is a strawman, he exists but is he Wikileaks?

The idea of a rather feminine looking young man who is said to receive secret material from an openly gay young American soldier isn’t good marketing. “Gay” doesn’t sell in today’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (DADT) world. Assange had to be reborn and what better guise than as a vicious “accused” rapist, pehaps the most “accused” then “unaccused” then “reaccused” rapist in history.

When American women look on Assange, the idea of following him to a hotel room or being raped seems a bit unlikely. Selling Assange as a “masher,” or “date rape” suspect with “on again/off again” criminal charges should have raised suspicions with the press. Funny thing, the press seems to take it all in, this new improved Assange, the potential sex criminal, the heterosexual animal preying on Swedish women, a nation famed for its passive and demure women. It would be a better than average guess that most female highschool students in Sweden could beat Assange in arm wrestling.

I think I have a new reality show here. Consider this a copyright.

This new Assange, serial rapist, “Yassar Arafat” clone, this one is selling better. What was once seen as feminine and even creepy can now be seen as sinister and dangerous. Women can now buy in. Assange is now a “bad boy.” Maybe we can have Ken O’Keefe give him some “man up” lessons and get him some ink.
While all this drama goes on, quietly, behind the scenes in an American courtroom, those paid to note such things are learning that Wikileaks is actually not a “star crossed” gay lover at all but a group of Israeli citizens, highly paid, heavily protected, working at the highest levels of American government, working for the State of Israel. Former AIPAC employee, Steve Rosen, listed on the indictment below, is now offering evidence of a massive and continuing spy operation, one accessing, well, Wikileak data among other things.

AIPAC INDICTMENT: IS ROSEN TYING WIKIPEDIA TO AIPAC?
Funny thing, nobody has ever found the magic Wikileaks “treehouse” with the dozens of elves who sift through documents. The NSA and a dozen other agencies can pick up these keystrokes on my computer the second they hit, tap 200 million telephones, kidnap a woman off the streets of Karachi with a two minute phone request but they don’t seem to be able to find the offices or computers of Wikileaks.

Israel does what it does, plays its games, runs America around like a nation of fools. This time, however, the world is being conned.
Where did I hear that before, “We con the world.”

Really, we heard all of this before, back during the Cold War. Normally, something like Wikileaks would be a KGB operation, meant to humiliate the “vicious American imperialists” and, let’s not forget, their “running dogs.” The diplomatic cables in Wikileaks certainly pointed out America’s “running dogs” for sure.
Yes, this used to be an old Soviet game and they were good at it. Now, all those old Russian spies are in Tel Aviv, drinking tea all day and plotting. Wikileaks is their game. There they sit, laughing at all of us while the world burns down.

They conned the world.
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APPENDIX
READER COMMENT FROM STEVE JOHNSON
Editor’s note: Other than this being an agreement with the author’s point of view, I am including it, frankly, because it is better written.
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Steve Johnson says:
November 30, 2010 at 8:11 pm (Edit)
Wiping away the tears of laughter visualizing Ken O’Keefe on a late-night bender with Assange getting ripped on cheap whiskey in the Kit-E-Kat club and singing Sea shanties about Marine adventures in Guam, I quickly realised the authors intent is far more serious a subject than this pictorial reference of a limp wristed bowell-prowling (less than arayan example of manhood) crying tears of violation for a whole day next morning about his new ” Semper Fi ” tattoo emblazened and weeping on his left ass cheek.

Disturbing visuals aside, this new release brought reference in my mind to the last big release that was so obvious in it’s context and purpose they almost forgot to remove the Netanyahu -Abe Foxman signatures from the information release forms before seeding it to the media.
What advantage is gained by the information released and to whom is this releases advantageous for?

I consider Gordon Duff is spot on with his analysis. The last release prior blamed Iran weapons supplies for directly arming resistance fighters in Iraq.
Riiiiiight.

The last release talked down the scale of the numbers of murdered civilians in both failed corporate sponsored adventures* of Iraq and Afghanistan. *(See War Inc.)

Immediately those who knew the knew the true figures and scope of the lies being told saw this as a deliberate direct attempt at “watering down” the human rights and war crimes that have been committed by such illegal “adventures”. A kind of plausible deniability in the face of the facts coming out eventually anyway.

Their concept is similar to the 9-11 truther/Gatekeeper phenomenon of late. Truth for Sale. just $29.99 per DVD. Might as well have a planned and controlled release IF ANY release is going to occur. Might as well have our own useful idiot as a poster boy if ANY idiot is going to get the numbers out one day.

This new information presented in the article above solidifies the now obvious link between AIPAC spying scandal and it’s true purpose in being the hasbara wing of the current Administration left with a legacy of illegal invasions, and rampant human rights abuses. It seems all this mess initiated and authorised from a former President who has the IQ and cerebral organic neuron content of a wet shoebox in a mud puddle. (No offense intended to any shoeboxes whom might be reading this article)

Were this not a very serious situation and the potential for initiating an INTERNET clampdown on whatever information THEY WANT that individuals might be posting, I would attempt another amusing anecdote. However this is not correct protocol given the seriousness of the wider implications of the effects of this new release.

Instead of directly targeting and shutting down ASSANGE, the authorities will use his behaviours to enforce their new tighter rules about internet information and the controlled releases of any and all pertinent information. A blanket fix for a bandaid problem. (As usual)

One could speculate this is a pre-cursor for a false flag which I am sure some in the past have been postponed due to rapid dissemination of critical information vital to their operation. By maintaining independent freedom as writers and researchers, who knows how many such State Sponsored operations such websites like this one has managed to thwart or complicate in the past.

Brilliant article and essential information.
-Steve

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Michael Rivero says:
November 30, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Last week, the Department of Homeland Security seized the domain names of roughly 70 websites for copyright infringement. There were no warrants, no court orders, and no court hearings before a judge. The DHS simply used their authority to grab websites on the basis they are perceived threats (apparently Osama Been Deadforawhile makes a good living with bootleg DVDs).

So, if WikiLeaks is really exposing dangerous classified diplomatic cables that are a threat to the United States, why didn’t DHS seize the WikiLeaks domain? Assange was dropping hints of a major leak to come. If WikiLeaks was a real whistleblower, DHS could shut them down by grabbing their domain name just as easily as it shut down the copyright violators.

But they didn’t.

The dog did not bark!

WikiLeaks is a fake whistleblower, an attempt to repackage old ABCNNBBCBS lies in a new form that the public will swallow.

There is no other possible explanation for DHS not to seize the domain as a real threat, especially since Assange was not shy about dropping hints as to what was to come!

WikiLeaks is a propaganda front.

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//http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/30/gordon-duff-selling-wikileaks-selling-hate-for-america/

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this is what passes for analysis in some circles. enjoy.

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[Elvis]

GORDON DUFF:

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this is what passes for analysis in some circles. enjoy.
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You mean "dyalisis"?

Besides being an antisemitic, homophobic smearmonger, Duff really needs an editor.

Oh wait, he is the editor.

[Plutonia]

From the ADL website:

Conspiracy Theories Linking Israel to WikiLeaks Circulate on the Internet

Posted: December 23, 2010

As the story about WikiLeaks's release of U.S. diplomatic cables gained media attention around the world, a number of Web sites across the ideological spectrum began to circulate conspiracy theories alleging that Israel was secretly involved in the publication of the cables.

Although the theory that Israel orchestrated the WikiLeaks' affair is circulating on a relatively small number of Web sites, it has gained traction with those catering to the far right and the left, as well as on some Arab and Islamic sites, and others dedicated to spreading "anti-Zionist" messages like Islam Times and Hezbollah's Al-Manar Web site.

To date, these sources have promoted two major claims regarding WikiLeaks's relationship to Israel. One claim is that WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange "struck a deal" with Israel to withhold the cables that were "embarrassing" to Israel. This narrative about Israel negotiating with Assange may have first surfaced in Al Haqiqa, an online publication affiliated with a Syrian opposition group, which was cited as a source by other articles posted in Arabic and English, as well as select press agencies. Others furthered this claim by alleging that Israel's "deal" with Assange either aimed to undermine the United States or sought to create an opening to attack Iran.

Another theory circulating online is that Assange actually works for Israel as a "spy," with the alleged evidence being the scarcity of cables related to Israel in the materials that were leaked to the public and the press.

Many of the conspiracy theories about Israel and WikiLeaks are being promulgated by an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist named Gordon Duff on his Web site Veterans Today, which features anti-Israel and Holocaust denial materials. Duff has authored numerous articles and appeared in interviews advancing his allegations that Israel orchestrated WikiLeaks as a public relations campaign. In an undated interview with British-based IQRA TV, Duff even implicated India's intelligence agency as being part of the conspiracy to bolster Israel's image.

In another interview with the mainstream the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on December 17, 2010, Duff told the paper that, "WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency. It's a ham-handed action by Israel to do its public relations."

Duff's articles have also appeared on white supremacist sites, including Stormfront a popular forum for extremists, former Klan leader David Duke's site, as well as Newsnet14, which re-posted a Duff column under another title: "Wikileaks: Is the Stench Coming from the Jews?"

Aside from Duff's theories, other allegations against Israel had their origins in the left-leaning Web site Indybay, which furthered the claim that WikiLeaks collaborated with Israel to restrict the publication of cables that could appear damaging to Israel.

Some cartoons featured in mainstream Arab papers echoed this same theme. On December 20, 2010, a cartoon appeared in the Emirati newspaper Al-Ittihad which portrayed Wikileaks as only exposing issues that would embarrass the Arab world while concealing Israel's alleged actions against peace.

Although they constitute a small minority, a few world leaders have used the WikiLeaks controversy to make anti-Israel statements, alleging that Israel is complicit in the affair or behind some of the cables. On December 1, 2010, Hüseyin Çelik, a deputy leader of AKP, Turkey's ruling party, hinted that Israel could be responsible for WikiLeaks in comments during a press conference. Çelik reportedly marveled at the fact that Israeli officials seemed to know that the documents wouldn't hurt the Israeli government: "Israel is very pleased [with the WikiLeaks controversy]. Israel has been making statements for days, even before the release of these documents."

On December 21, 2010, the Palestinian Fatah party condemned particular WikiLeaks' cables as "fabrications and lies" by Israel's security services in order to deepen divisions among Palestinians. Fatah denied a WikiLeaks' cable that revealed Fatah representatives had asked Israel to attack Hamas in 2007 and said the WikiLeaks revelation was "conspiracy" by the Shin Bet.

The following is a sampling of articles circulating the conspiracy theory that Israel is at the center of the WikiLeaks' controversy:

* December 16, 2010: In an article on his Web site titled, "Wiki-Warning – Little Green Men Coming," Gordon Duff charged that the Mossad, as well as "a Rothschild law firm, the pro-Israel gang at The New York Times, The Guardian and Der Spiegel," removed cables with "dirt" on Israel.

* December 15, 2010: Gordon Duff published an article on the anti-Semitic site Rense, where he plainly stated, "WikiLeaks is Israel." Duff alleged that former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski seemed to have arrived at the same conclusion when he was said in an interview on PBS on December 2 that WikiLeaks is the front for an "intelligence agency" and that the material leaked was of a "pointed" nature.

* December 14, 2010: The Opinion Maker, a Pakistan-based conspiratorial site, published an article titled, "A Missing Leak: All Roads Lead to Tel Aviv," by Ghayur Ayub. Ayub alleged that Israel is holding back a "missing leak" that would have proven Israel's culpability in the affair. He wrote, "Here comes the million dollar question. Is there a 'missing leak' exposing Israel's heinous motives despite the leaked documents stating that 'there is no Israel lobby involvement to involuntarily force US in a war to serve Jewish interests'…?"[Original emphasis retained.

* December 13, 2010: In another article on Gordon Duff's Web site, "Turning Our Enemy's Inherent Decency into the Vehicle of Their Own Demise….Mossad," he claimed that WikiLeaks was working with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad to create a false war against Iran. He wrote, "Wikileaks has issued a virtual declaration of war against Iran, part of the Mossad's 'war by deception' of which Wikileaks is a proven component. Blog after blog followed suit, spreading the same 'poison,' Wikileaks again 'leaks' false information citing Iran for having a nuclear weapons program long proven not to exist."

* December 13, 2010: In an article titled, "WikiLeaks 'Struck a Deal' to Keep Away Anything Damaging to Israel," published on Al Manar, the Web site affiliated with the terrorist group Hezbollah, the author alleged: "A number of commentators, particularly in Turkey and Russia, have been wondering why the hundreds of thousands of American classified documents leaked by the website last month did not contain anything that may embarrass the Israeli government…The answer appears to be a secret deal struck between the WikiLeaks 'heart and soul', as Assange humbly described himself once, with Israeli officials, which ensured that all such documents were 'removed' before the rest were made public."

* December 12, 2010: Islam Times, an online publication whose stated purpose is to produce media "that is not tainted by the Zionist control over the western media structure," published an article titled, "Is Israel behind WikiLeaks to Crush US Credibility for Potential Talks with Iran?" The author, Mnar Muhawesh, alleged that the leak of these documents was of obvious benefit to Israel and the "Israeli lobby," because it refocused the world's attention on Iran. Muhawesh cited another article by conspiracy theorist Jeff Gates who suggested that a "forensic analysis" would ultimately find Israel responsible for the WikiLeaks scandal, since Israel had motive to leak the cables. While Muhawesh never overtly states that Israel is responsible, she repeatedly insinuates as much.

* December 11, 2010: Zuhair Belqurshi (aka Zuhair Najjaah) wrote an article titled, "Wikileaks: in the Service of the Zionists' Goals," published in both the Arab Times (of Conroe, Texas) and the Arab Voice (of Paterson, New Jersey). Belqurshi alleged, "I will not discuss the conspiracy theory that has been confirmed in the leaked information, but I will pay close attention to the selectiveness of the published leaks, which serve the interests of the Zionists and the neoconservatives in America, the Zionist Republican Party, to Judaize occupied Palestine and thus Judaizing Jerusalem."

* December 10, 2010: Zuhair Belqurshi (aka Zuhair Najjaah) wrote another article titled, “Wikileaks: Who’s Lying about It…Who’s Laughing at It…” published in the Arab Times (of Conroe, Texas) in which he questioned why none of the “known” crimes of Israel are mentioned in the Wikileaks’ cables. He wrote, “And what of Israel’s relationship with this report, which did not mention the genocide practiced by them, using all international banned weapons, contrary to the Geneva Conventions, nor the dirty war it waged on Lebanon, not even the disclosure of the assassinations carried out by the Mossad from Hariri…to Mabhouh assassinated in the UAE.”

* December 9, 2010: Ramzy Baroud, editor-in-chief of The Palestine Chronicle, published an article in his online publication questioning why Israel had been “spared much of the embarrassment” of the Wikileaks cables. He alleged that this is “particularly suspicious,” in light of the numerous and rather consistent leaks from many different parties who expressed the desire to eliminate Iran’s nuclear program. Alluding to Israel, Baroud wrote, “It seems as if someone, or some entity, wants to enliven the conflict with Iran, and spread it throughout the Middle East.”

* December 8, 2010: In an article on Gordon Duff’s Web site titled, “Busted! Wiki Leaks Working for Israel,” he claimed, “Reports have come in today, tying Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, directly to Israeli intelligence and “Israel friendly” media outlets. We are told Assange, while at a Geneva meeting, agreed to allow Israel to select or censor all Wikileak output.” Duff alleged that “Assange ‘the martyr’ now appears to be Assange ‘the Israeli spy.’” Duff also claimed that Assange has ties to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Network and Newt Gingrich and described all three as “avid Zionists.”

* December 7, 2010: An anonymous individual named “LikiWeaks” published an article on Indybay.org titled, “WikiLeaks ‘Struck a Deal with Israel’ Over Diplomatic Cables Leaks” in which the author alleged that Israeli officials and WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange made a deal ensuring that documents that were embarrassing to the Israeli government were removed prior to the leak. The article cited the report from Al Haqiqa, a publication affiliated with a Syrian far-Left opposition group, claiming that Israel paid Assange not to release certain documents.

* December 6, 2010: The online Arabic-language publication Al Haqiqa, also known as “Syria Truth,” affiliated with a Syrian far-Left opposition group, published an article that claimed that WikiLeaks made an agreement with Israel to avoid publication of documents that “may harm Israeli security or diplomatic interests.” According to the article, a former WikiLeaks official alleged that Julien Assange, Wikileaks’ founder, met with representatives of an Israeli secret intelligence agency in Switzerland to carve out the deal. Al Haqiqa identifies the author of the article as Leah Abramowiz, referred to as an Israeli-born journalist and the daughter of Holocaust survivors.

* November 30, 2010: Conspiracy theorist and anti-Semite Jeff Gates published an article in The Palestine Chronicle, titled, “Wikileaks: The Tel Aviv Connection.” Gates alleged that Israel orchestrated the Wikileaks scandals in order to delegitimize the United States and remove itself from scrutiny. He writes, “Tel Aviv knows that the phony intelligence on Iraq leads to those skilled at waging war ‘by way of deception’—the motto of the Israeli Mossad. Wikileaks are noteworthy for what’s missing: the absence of any material damaging to Israeli goals.” The same article was also published by Veterans Today on December 2 under the title, “Wikileaks and Espionage – Israeli Style.”

* November 27, 2010: In an article on Gordon Duff’s Web site, “Wikileaks, a Touch of Assange and the Stench of AIPAC,” he alleged that Israel was using WikiLeaks to destabilize the United States. He wrote, “Wikileaks is an intelligence operation to weaken and undermine the American government, orchestrated from Tel Aviv, using dozens of operatives, dual citizens, some at the highest authority levels, spies for Israel. Through leaking carefully selected intelligence along with proven falsified documents, all fed to a controlled press, fully complicit, Wikileaks is, in fact, an act of war against the United States.” Duff also alleged that AIPAC, a Jewish lobbying group, is behind Wikileaks and its actions.