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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:48 am

Canada watches its democracy erode

A minister told parliament she did not know who had altered a document that cut funding to a foreign aid group. Later, she admitted to ordering the changes, but did not know who had carried out the order. Lying to parliament, a cardinal sin of Westminster-style democracy, has become a political tactic.

Following rulings by Speaker Peter Milliken, for the first time in Canadian history, the government and a minister have been found to be in contempt of parliament for withholding information and misleading the house.

The Integrity Commissioner was so inept that she failed to uphold a single one of more than 200 whistle-blowing complaints.

Forced out of office by the ensuing public outcry, she was awarded a $C500,000 severance package on condition that neither she nor the government talk about it.

That is, a public servant paid by the taxpayer was financially gagged by yet more taxpayer money to stop taxpayers finding out what was going on.

When a foreign service officer blew the whistle on the Canadian military handing over detainees to Afghan security forces, in likely violation of international humanitarian law, the government tried to destroy him and refused to give documents to a parliamentary inquiry. The Speaker reminded the government parliament controlled cabinet, not the other way round.

After the last elections, when the opposition parties were close to agreement on a coalition majority government, rather than face the house in a vote of confidence, Harper talked the governor-general into shuttering parliament for a month until he shored up his own support.

When the time came to choose a new governor-general, Harper opted for someone who had carefully drawn up terms of an inquiry commission to exclude the potentially most damaging aspects of a scandal involving a former conservative prime minister.

Four conservatives have been charged with exceeding campaign spending limits in the 2006 election that put Harper into power. A minister used public office and material to pursue party-political goals of courting ethnic vote banks for the conservatives.

Having come into office on campaign promises of greater transparency and accountability, Harper has silenced civil servants and diplomats, cynically published guidelines on how to disrupt hostile parliamentary committees, and suppressed research that contradicts ideologically-driven policy, for example data that show crime rates to be falling.

Judges who rule against the pet causes of the government's ideological base are not immune to attacks from cabinet ministers.

Civil society groups that criticise any government policy or ideology risk loss of funding and hostile takeovers by boards stacked with pro-government ciphers.

Little wonder Globe and Mail columnist Lawrence Martin describes the government's "arc of duplicity" as "remarkable to behold". What remains unclear is whether this adds up to an indictment of Canadians' indifference to democratic rights being curtailed or of the opposition parties, which have failed to harness the silent majority's outrage.

As Canadians head for the polls in early May, it remains to be seen whether Liberal Party charges of the Harper government being obsessed with secrecy, control, spin and attack ads will resonate with voters. Until then, Oh Canada, we cry our hearts for thee

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/canada-watches-its-democracy-erode/story-e6frg6ux-1226030310248


I was going to bold the highlights, but the whole thing is a highlight (lowlight, really)
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:06 am

Somewhat historic polling news this morning has the NDP second in Quebec, just 10 points back of the Bloc.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/el ... cueil_POS1

Nationally:

CON: 38% (-1%)
LIB: 27% (+2)
NDP: 21% (+2)
BQ: 8% (-2)
GRN: 6% (-1%)

And Quebec:

BQ: 34%
NDP: 24%
CON: 19%
LIB: 13%

The NDP has only ever elected two MPs from Quebec, and has just one sitting member (of 75 Quebec MPs). So, this could be a big deal. Layton's been devoting a lot of attention to Quebec, and the party's ads are distinctive.

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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:28 pm

FWIW, English language debate tonight at 7:00 Eastern.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:50 pm

I hope they hammer holy hell out of "The Harper Government" (c) on Bruce Carson, the G8, G20, Bev Ota, appointed senators, abuse of authority, contempt of parliament, hiding behind the GG, and every other thing that mob boss and his squad of half-wit douchebags have done.

I would dearly love to see Harper yell, flush, stammer or shapeshift.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:21 pm

I'm watching now...
-- on the immigration question did Gilles Duceppe just say his grandfather was a 'home child" and mention something about someone turning black?
-- Harper has used every variation of "That's simply not true" that it is possible to construct. But my favourite, because it was honest, was when he said, "I simply don't accept the truth of that." :D
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:29 pm

That was depressing. The format was ridiculous. Real journalists with follow-ups were required, not taped "ordinary Canadians" with single questions. Harper was unflappably shameless. Ignatieff's a skilled debater, but cynical and entitled. (e.g., Layton: "Your party has a long history of making promises and breaking them right after elections." Ignatieff: "Well, at least we get elected." Only a party hack could delight in that.) And Layton again used his cloying, soothing I'm not scary voice, when I think a scare is actually in order. And has Duceppe's English worsened? I think he's been much better spoken than this.

Also, I'm not a fan of Elizabeth May, but she deserved to be there.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:45 pm

I couldn't agree more. I didn't find Jack Layton too annoying, however he was not near as strong as I'd hoped. I caught that bit with Ignatieff too, hand on hip and the whole shebang. I hope it was as off putting to dyed in the wool Liberals as it was to me, but I bet they thought it was delightfully naughty.

I wish someone would have done to Harper what Duceppe did to Layton during the Bill 101 wrangling session (which demonstrated nicely how pointless it is for Duceppe to be in a federal leadership debate in the first place.)

I do think his English is worse - or he's had a stroke or something - because I used to be able to follow him and actually enjoyed listening to him back in the day. He's my kind of politician, really.

OH, and I hope against hope that someone finds and prints that letter of 2-0-4 he kept scaring Harper and Layton with. That'd be interesting.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby norton ash » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:33 pm

It was all so vague and weak and eerie. Three bad actors and Duceppe was way off.

Changes nothing. I wonder how many watched.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:44 pm

They are always so vague and it pisses me off.

What I like about Duceppe is precisely that he talks specifics more often than any other politician. I guess he has that luxury more so than the others though, since he really only has one province to worry about.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:58 pm

Layton seems to be running to convince Canadians he's trustworthy, or that they should have a beer with him, or jam with him in the garage. Well he's already won those polls. What's been lacking is some of the indignant fire we still hear from Stephen Lewis. Yes, Layton's now "safe," but there's no spark about him.

I'm ready for Thomas Mulcair now, thanks.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:23 am

Jeff wrote:Layton seems to be running to convince Canadians he's trustworthy, or that they should have a beer with him, or jam with him in the garage. Well he's already won those polls.


Oh, fer fuck's -

Rating the debate

The leaders’ debate didn’t do much to change voters’ minds about who is the best man to lead the country; more Canadians still believe Stephen Harper has the best ideas and policies and acts most like a prime minister.

The vast majority of those polled (42%) thought Harper came out on top in the debate, but he's not the man most Canadians would like to socialize with.

That honour goes to NDP Jack Layton.
A whopping 55% of respondents said he’s the leader they would most like to chat with over a beer or coffee.


Well, that's something! :gringhost:

http://www.globalnews.ca/decisioncanada ... id=4604903
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby The Consul » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:35 am

Jeff wrote:
Jeff wrote:Layton seems to be running to convince Canadians he's trustworthy, or that they should have a beer with him, or jam with him in the garage. Well he's already won those polls.


Oh, fer fuck's -

Rating the debate

The leaders’ debate didn’t do much to change voters’ minds about who is the best man to lead the country; more Canadians still believe Stephen Harper has the best ideas and policies and acts most like a prime minister.

The vast majority of those polled (42%) thought Harper came out on top in the debate, but he's not the man most Canadians would like to socialize with.

That honour goes to NDP Jack Layton.
A whopping 55% of respondents said he’s the leader they would most like to chat with over a beer or coffee.


Well, that's something! :gringhost:

http://www.globalnews.ca/decisioncanada ... id=4604903


In another poll, although a solid 54% of respondents said that they would leave their pet turtle with Mr. Layton for the weekend a whopping 67% percent said that were they in the stall vacating their bowels they would rather have Mr. Harper step into the stall next to theirs. It is believed that this estimation of the public has been formed by Mr. Harper's long campaign to convince Canadians of all stripes everywhere that his shit does not stink.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:21 am

There’s going for the youthful, tech-savvy vote, and then there’s swinging for the social-media fences.

As the four leaders faced off behind podiums in an otherwise staid, boxy set, NDP Leader Jack Layton made a play for the twittering masses when he came out against Conservative Leader Stephen Harper’s tough-on-crime agenda.

...

“We’ve got to protect those vulnerable neighbourhoods,” he added, swinging a forefinger at the camera lens directly in front of him. “And that’s been a hashtag fail on this issue.”


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1983166/

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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Canadian_watcher » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:30 am

In the post-debate round-up, however, a group of first time voters pretty much unanimously declared that Layton was the only candidate that meant anything at all to them, because he was the only one who made politics relevant to the people. So there's that, I guess.

My 17 year old and her friends were stuck on his use of the word "bling" .. not sure if that's good or bad, really.

The thing that is SO frustrating is this: Harper's government has been found IN CONTEMPT OF PARLIAMENT!!! This should be more than some procedural assurance of an election. it should mean the ouster of the leader and the cabinet. Simple. Criminals (because essentially a contempt charge is a criminal charge) should not be allowed to get election funding and try to win back their places in Parliament.

That people will still vote for that simpering, lying, placating, condescending, patronizing, control-freak dirt-bag is a display of their own deep, deep hatred of themselves.
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Re: Canada election watch

Postby Jeff » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:25 pm

FWIW, latest poll from Ekos is good news, and at great odds with the Conservative push pollsters (21% Conservative lead, I saw from one last night):

CON: 33.8%
LIB: 28.8%
NDP: 19.1%
GRN: 9%
BQ: 7.8%
OTH: 1.5%

Race tightened in the hours prior to English debate
Posted on Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 11:43 am by Frank Graves

Voters appear to be pulling back from giving the Harper government a Conservative majority and are now looking more carefully at other options, an EKOS-iPolitics poll conducted prior to the English-language debate suggests. In what is the tightest period of the race so far, the 11-point cushion that Conservatives had in the opening days of the campaign has been replaced with a scant 5.6-point lead.

Their comfortable and seat-efficient Ontario margin of 10 points has basically vanished and, at these numbers, the Conservatives would be looking at a significantly diminished minority.

...

The other main story of this poll is that the claimed demise of the NDP is clearly premature. The New Democrats are showing important new strength, particularly in Quebec and British Columbia where they now lead. The NDP have risen steadily since the outset of the campaign (interestingly, not at the expense of the Liberal Party).

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http://ipolitics.ca/2011/04/13/race-tig ... bate-ekos/

New NDP spots, taking on the Liberals for the first time in the campaign:

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