Sally Field's 'Sybil' was a lie

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Today, Friday Oct 21, National Propaganda Radio's 'Science Friday' show had Debbie Nathan and others on debating the 'Sybil' thang.

Of course, Nathan is a disinfoteer covering up a reality with opportunistic debunking of the 'Sybil' hoax, itself originally a misdirection project written by a woman who taught at a spook-infested police academy, for gawd's sake. Flora Schreiber's next book was about a sickeningly gruesome serial killer called 'The Shoemaker,' probably marketed as support of the mandatory sentencing legislation being jammed through Congress in 1985.

So why is Nathan's psyops project being marketed by CIA media now? Timing context is very important.
Back to a POW-MIA issue again. And covering up CIA atrocities exploiting real science.

This week- US-North Korea are in talks over war remains from the 1950s, an event announced in the news since August 2011.
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre79g ... a-remains/

And that brings up both the Vietnam POW-MIA scandal AND the whole 'Manchurian Candidate' subject of the CIA's MKULTRA and intentional creation of Dissociative Identity Disorder. The CIA's work was projected onto them eeevil commies in the 1959 novel and 1962 movie.

Much better to have the whole subject sponged up by Nathan debunking 'Sybil' today.

[Project Willow]

Letter to Science Friday:

Is there no mercy in the world? What do people think happens to all the children who are used for pornography and in the sex trade? They grow up and they develop depression, complex PTSD, and yes, dissociative disorders including Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Child pornography is a multi-billion dollar business. Campaigns to discredit dissociative disorders serve that industry and other child exploitation rackets by keeping advocates, clinicians and researchers on the defensive, and silencing, and marginalizing survivors.

DID is only controversial if you are uneducated or have an agenda. Its existence is supported by a body of research spanning a couple hundred years that is far more comprehensive and convincing than countless other undisputed diagnoses. To quote Richard Loewenstein: "This empirical base includes clinical case studies, series studies with structured interview data; studies of phenomenology, prevalence, memory, hypnotizability, neurobiology, imaging, and psychophysiology; and psychological assessment profiles, among others. These studies include samples of children and adolescents and cross-cultural samples from North America, Europe, Latin America, Turkey, and Asia."

Multiple personality is not a modern phenomena. Cases of DID were first described by Western medicine in the 18th century, the 18th century! Descriptions of analogous behavior and symptom clusters appear across cultures and eras.

Mr. Flatow, I beg you, please do not provide a platform for these propaganda campaigns in future. There are tens of thousands of survivors who suffer because of the claims of people like Nathan and McHugh. Please, do not add to that suffering.

[Jeff]

Hugh, you've hijacked more than your quota of keywords in this thread. No more disruption, please.

[Project Willow]

^^

From a clinician:

"... laying the groundwork to prosecute and harass anyone daring to help survivors..."

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"If you really want to get a feel for this smear campaign it comes through best in the audio interview with the author on WNYC below. If you can bring yourself to listen to it you may need to shower afterwards!

I collected a range of sites to show what a major push this propaganda is getting:

New Scientist?!

From Rush to NPR, now that's coverage. Meanwhile, complete blackout on that fact that Tokyo is more radioactive than the Chernobyl evacuation area (http://enenews.com/).

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/cultu ... ation.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -FAKE.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/magaz ... WkY/tR4aVw

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141514464 ... -were-fake

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2011/o ... l-exposed/

http://www.salon.com/2011/10/16/sybil_e ... singleton/

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/ ... d_familiar

The question is why? And I don't mean about timing, but necessity.

Let's review where RA/MC survivor advocacy is at the moment:

3 commissions effectively eradicated 2010-2011.
NATAC HE (Albarelli, William Pepper, and 30 others) - destroyed within 2 months, strong arming, physical intimidation, infighting.
US TRC (Kathleen Sullivan) - destroyed within 6 months, infighting.
NATRC (Neil Brick) - hobbled, ineffective, infiltrated.

Any recent incendiary, ground-breaking books or survivor accounts? Excluding two, not since 2009, and none of them ever gained wide mainstream visibility. Hmmmm, I wonder how Bryant is doing on his Franklin documentary?

I'll go back to what I first said, we're already on the floor, in the corner, and mostly under the rug, there's no need to stomp up and down on us. Fuckers.

[Project Willow]

Sybil was not a Fraud

http://didiva.com/2011/10/sybil-was-not-a-fraud/

Sybil was not a fraud. Imagine if someone took a few facts about your life and wrapped an entirely false narrative around them making you out to be something that you never were, and destroying your reputation. Everyone should be concerned about this kind of activity. Every one of us should stand up against it.

Nathan’s work and her PR campaign are an attack not only upon the 3 dead woman she targets who cannot defend themselves, but upon all survivors of extreme abuse.

Wanda Karriker’s review from Amazon books:

According to the product description of SYBIL EXPOSED, “Nathan gives proof that the allegedly true story was largely fabricated.”

Although Nathan did a good job of constructing a narrative of how and why she believes the book SYBIL came to be, neither the patient (Shirley Mason aka Sybil, the psychiatrist (Wilbur), nor the author (Schriebner) are alive to defend against Nathan’s interpretations of their interactions and their motivations to produce the book.

On p. 396 (Kindle), Nathan states that Wilbur “used her medical credentials to aggressively promote a diagnosis [multiple personality disorder] that, ultimately, hurt women far more than it helped them . . .”

As a journalist Nathan has a right to use her research findings to impugn the motives of Dr. Wilbur; however, she offered no research to support her contention that the diagnosis “hurt women far more than it helped them.”

Wanda Karriker, Ph.D. Morning, Come Quickly

[Project Willow]

Review of "Sybil Exposed" by Lynn Crook

Sybil Exposed: The Extraordinary Story Behind the Famous Multiple
Personality Case

This book "reads like fiction" as the cover says.

But is it "fact" as the cover claims?

On page 222 of "Sybil Exposed," Nathan says, "Roseanne Barr . . . would
later describe her twenty alter personalities. They included `Piggy,' `Bambi
and `F . . . . . '" Nathan's cite for this statement is People Magazine,
October 7, 1991.

However, there is no mention of any alter personalities in the 1991
article (pp. 84-88) by correspondent Vickie Bane. None of these names are
mentioned in the article. Nathan also says that Barr "forgot about it until she
entered therapy." But in the People Magazine article, Barr says she started
to recover memories of abuse after her then fiancé Tom's telephone call from
rehab in 1989 telling her he was molested by a babysitter (p. 85). After
she began to recall, then Barr saw a therapist.

On page 225 of her book Nathan says, "The state of Texas closed Peterson's
dissociative disorders unit after determining it had overused physical
restraints . . . " This claim may have originated with Frontline's 1995
documentary, "Divided Memories." In 1996, when I reviewed this Frontline
documentary for a news journal, I contacted the Texas Department of Health. A
spokesperson there denied any such closing of the unit. The review was published
in 1996.

Nathan fails to mention that the trial of US v. Peterson et al. on mail
and insurance fraud vindicated Peterson and the others of all charges. Here's
what happened in this Houston trial. By February 1999, the federal
government had been presenting its case for six months. The government's first
expert, Dr. James Hudson, had just undergone a rigorous cross-examination by
Peterson's attorney. The jury was down to 12 members and the defense was
prepared to continue. The government dropped all the charges.

[Simulist]

Her book should be re-titled, Nathan Exposed — because what Debbie Nathan is revealing about herself is not at all flattering.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Wow, speaking of rabbit holes: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3052

She is holographically gross.

[Project Willow]

Thanks Wombat!

But Eichenwald says none of his research put him in possession of illegal images of child porn. “If I did what Deborah Nathan attributed to me, I need to be arrested,” he says. “She flat-out libeled me.”

[Project Willow]

This is the Orwellian named arts and letters wing of the FMSF.

http://ncrj.org/about/

About Us

The National Center for Reason and Justice was incorporated in April, 2002.

President: Michael Snedeker, Esq., is a criminal-defense lawyer who has successfully handled the appeals of several ritual-abuse cases in California. He is the author of the California State Prisoners Handbook and is co-author, with Debbie Nathan, of Satan’s Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern American Witch Hunt.

Treasurer: Francis X. Kane is a retired accountant who spent over 30 years doing financial management and internal auditing for GTE Sylvania. He became involved in false accusation issues in 1991, when an adult daughter was pressured by a therapist into “recovering” memories of being sexually abused as a baby. The daughter left therapy and got better, retracting her accusation, and making media appearances with her father. Mr. Kane did volunteer work for the False Memory Syndrome Foundation , and is currently their Massachusetts contact person. For years he has provided personal support for the falsely accused and their families — both in Massachusetts (the Amiraults, the Souzas, Bernard Baran, Robert Halsey, Bruce Clairmont) and elsewhere (Rocco Ellis, Bruce Perkins, the Kellers, Frank Fuster, Paul Ingram, the Wenatchee defendants, etc.).

Clerk: Hugo S. Cunningham, formerly a military intelligence analyst and software developer, currently maintains web sites on Soviet history http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/ and false accusations at http://www.cyberussr.com/hcunn/witch/. Mr. Cunningham is a long time supporter of the Amirault family and of Bernard Baran.
Directors

Dr. Emily Horowitz received her Ph.D. in Sociology from Yale University in 2002. She has published articles and presented academic papers on the subjects of domestic violence, sex offender hysteria, false confessions and wrongful convictions. She teaches a course on wrongful convictions at St. Francis College (Brooklyn, NY, USA), where she is a faculty member in the Department of Sociology and Criminal Justice. She received the 2007 Alfred R. Lindesmith Award from the Society for the Study of Social Problems for her paper, “Civil Confinement and Lifetime Registration for Sex Offenders: Why No Debate?”, and her research paper, “Growing Media and Legislative Attention to Sex Offenders: More Safety or More Injustice?” appears in The Journal of the Institute of Justice and International Studies 7 (2007).

Judith Levine is a journalist, essayist, and author who has written about sex, gender, and families for over two decades. Her work has appeared in Ms., nerve.com, and My Generation. She is a founder of the National Writers Union and the feminist group, No More Nice Girls. She is the author of My Enemy, My Love: Women, Men, and the Dilemmas of Gender and Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex. Harmful to Minors won the 2003 Los Angeles Times book prize in the current-interest category.

Debbie Nathan is a journalist who received the Free Press Association’s H.L. Mencken award for her reporting of the daycare hysteria in The Village Voice and elsewhere. Nathan was the first journalist of national stature to write critically about the daycare cases. She is the author of Women and Other Aliens: Essays from the U.S.-Mexico Border and co-author, with Mike Snedeker, of Satan’s Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern American Witch Hunt.

Mark Pendergrast is an independent scholar and writer. He is the author of Victims of Memory: Sex Abuse Accusations and Shattered Lives; For God, Country and Coca-Cola: The Definitive History of the Great American Soft Drink and the Company That Makes It; Uncommon Grounds: The History of Coffee and How It Transformed the World ; and Mirror Mirror: A History of the Human Love Affair With Reflection. Victims of Memory is an in-depth account of the devastation caused by false memories of sexual abuse and recovered-memory therapy. It also covers the day care hysteria cases. Scientific American called Victims of Memory “an impressive display of scholarship [which] demonstrates a laudable ability to lay out all sides of the argument.”
Advisors

Donald S. Connery is a Harvard-educated author and independent journalist who worked around the world for such leading news organizations as Armed Forces Radio Service, United Press and, principally, Time & Life magazines. After years of foreign correspondence from New Delhi, Tokyo, Moscow and London, he returned with his family to the U.S. in 1968. Connecticut’s landmark Peter Reilly wrong-man case in 1973-77 shifted his focus from international affairs to miscarriages of justice. He has since investigated and reported a series of false-confession cases from Alabama and Virginia to Connecticut and and Illinois, where he serves on the advisory board of the Center on Wrongful Convictions at Northwestern Law School. He is the author of The Scandinavians, The Irish, One American Town, Guilty Until Proven Innocent, The Inner Source and Convicting the Innocent. A work-in-progress will relate his encounters with “America’s criminally unjust criminal justice system.”

The late Dr. Robyn Dawes was the Charles J. Queenan, Jr. University Professor of Psychology in the Department of Social and Decision Sciences at Carnegie Mellon University and a widely recognized researcher on psychological evaluation and decision making. He is the author of Rational Choice in an Uncertain World, House of Cards: Psychology and Psychotherapy Based on Myth, and Everyday Irrationality: How Pseudo-Scientists, Lunatics, and the Rest of Us Systematically Fail to Think Rationally. In 1990, Dr. Dawes won the William James book award for Rational Choice from the American Psychological Association. Dr. Dawes died on December 14, 2010.

Dr. Evan Harrington is a social psychologist specializing in the areas of forensic and health psychology. He has taught at New York University and John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City and is currently an associate professor at the Chicago School of Professional Psychology. Dr. Harrington is the director of the forensic thesis track at the Chicago School, as well as chair of the Institutional Review Board. While a graduate student at Temple University Dr. Harrington became interested in the debate over recovered and false memories of child abuse. He conducted extensive research at the False Memory Syndrome Foundation in Philadelphia, which he presented at the 1995 NATO Advanced Studies Institute international conference on traumatic memories. Dr. Harrington’s recent presentations include data on the prevalence rate of recovered memories at the APA Summit on Violence (February, 2008), data on Supreme Court decision making at the AP-LS conference (March, 2008), and data on the “CSI Effect” at the APS conference (May 2008). He is also scheduled to present data on fear of crime at the SPSSI conference (June, 2008).

Dr. Richard A. Leo, Ph.D., J.D. is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of San Francisco and formerly a professor of Psychology and Criminology at the University of California, Irvine.? Dr. Leo is a leading national authority on police interrogation and confessions in the United States.? Dr. Leo has written 5 books and more than 60 articles and book chapters on police interrogation, false confessions and wrongful convictions. He is the author of the award-winning book Police Interrogation and American Justice (Harvard University Press, 2008), already considered to be the definitive study of police interrogation and confessions in America.? With Tom Wells, Dr. Leo is also the author of The Wrong Guys: Murder, False Confessions and the Norfolk 4, which is being written into a screenplay by John Grisham.? Dr. Leo has won awards for research excellence and distinction from many organizations, including the American Society of Criminology, the American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Forensic Psychology, the American Sociological Association, the Pacific Sociological Association, and the Law and Society Association.? Dr. Leo is often quoted in print media and featured in electronic media, and his research has been cited by numerous appellate courts, including the United States Supreme Court. Dr. Leo is also frequently called to advise and assist practicing attorneys in litigation.? Since 1996, Dr. Leo has consulted on more than one-thousand (1,000) criminal and civil cases involving disputed interrogations and/or disputed confessions in 47 states (and the District of Columbia), and he has testified as an expert witness numerous times in state, federal and military courts in 26 states.? Dr. Leo has worked on many high profile cases involving false confessions, including the cases of Michael Crowe, Earl Washington, Kerry Max Cook, Medell Banks and two of the Central Park Jogger defendants, among others. ? Dr. Leo has also worked on behalf of hundreds of other, lesser known victims of interrogation coercion and false confession in cases that never received any media attention.

Dr. Elizabeth Loftus is a Distinguished Professor at the University of California – Irvine. She holds appointments in the Departments of Criminology, Law & Society and in the Department of Psychology and Social Behavior. Dr. Loftus is an internationally acknowledged expert in memory and eyewitness testimony. She is the author or co-author of several books — including Eyewitness Testimony, Memory, Cognitive Processes, Witness for the Defense, and The Myth of Repressed Memory . She has published hundreds of articles and chapters. She has received honorary degrees from Miami University (Ohio); Leiden University (the Netherlands); the John Jay College of Criminal Justice; the University of Portsmouth, England; and Haifa University in Israel. In 2001, she received the William James Fellow Award from the American Psychological Society. Dr. Loftus was listed as one of the Review of General Psychology‘s 100 most eminent psychologists of the 20th century. Dr. Loftus was the highest ranked woman in the list. Dr. Loftus has been elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Science, and the American Philosophical Society.

Dr. Debra Poole is a Professor of Psychology at Central Michigan University. She is an international authority on children’s memory and the limitations of children’s eyewitness testimony. She has presented her research at two international NATO Advanced Studies Institutes and was an invited attendee at a 1998 think tank in Sweden involving 24 international experts on investigative interviewing, funded in part by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development. She is co-author of the book Investigative Interviews of Children: A Guide for Helping Professionals. In 2000, she received the Governor’s Award from the Michigan Family Independent Agency for drafting the state’s forensic interviewing protocol.

Susan P. Robbins, Ph.D., is an associate professor at the University of Houston Graduate School of Social Work. She holds licenses as a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) and licensed chemical dependency counselor (LCDC) in Texas and a Diplomate in Forensic Social Work from the American Board of Forensic Social Workers. Working on a contract basis with the Texas Protective Services Training Institute, she provides training for protective service workers, supervisors, lawyers and judges on False Allegations of Sexual Abuse and also serves as a consultant and expert witness in this area. She has also given presentations on this topic to the National Association of Social Workers, Texas Chapter and to the National Defender Investigator Association. She is a well-published author whose articles about false allegations based on recovered memories appear in the Encyclopedia of Social Work, the Social Workers’ Desk Reference and in Families in Society: The Journal of Contemporary Human Service.

Harvey Silverglate , Esq. is a criminal-defense lawyer and civil-liberties litigator and a partner in the firm of Silverglate & Good. Mr. Silverglate writes regular columns for the Boston Phoenix and The National Law Journal, and has taught at Harvard Law School. In 1971 he was admitted to the Bar of the United States Supreme Court and has been admitted to the Bars of six Circuit Courts of Appeal, the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals, the US Court of Military Appeals, and others. Mr. Silverglate is a past President of the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts. He is co-author of The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America’s Campuses and a co-founder and member of the Board of Directors of The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education , a civil liberties organization devoted to academic freedom issues.

Dr. Carol Tavris is a writer, lecturer, and social psychologist. She is coauthor, with Elliot Aronson, of Mistakes Were Made (But Not by ME): Why we justify foolish beliefs, bad decisions, and hurtful acts, and author of Anger: The Misunderstood Emotion and The Mismeasure of Woman. She is also the co-author of two leading psychology textbooks. She has written hundreds of articles and book reviews for a wide variety of publications, and has given many addresses and workshops on topics related to psychological science versus pseudoscience for general audiences, attorneys, mediators, psychologists, and judges. Dr. Tavris is a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, a charter Fellow of the Association for Psychological Science, and a member of ? the editorial board of Psychological Science in the Public Interest.

Dr. Leonore Tiefer is a feminist and psychologist who has specialized in sexuality for 30 years. She is currently Associate Professor of Psychiatry at both the New York University School of Medicine and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine and has a private psychotherapy practice in Manhattan. In recent years, Dr. Tiefer has written widely about the medicalization of men’s and women’s sexuality [ http://www.fsd-alert.org ], e.g., Sex is Not a Natural Act (2nd edition, 2004) and A New View of Women’s Sexual Problems (with Ellyn Kaschak, 2001). Dr. Tiefer has received professional awards and held office in various groups. She has been on the Board of Directors of the National Coalition against Censorship for over 10 years.

Dr. James Wood teaches in the psychology department at the University of Texas at El Paso. He has done groundbreaking work on children’s suggestibility, including experiments based on the content of the McMartin children interviews. His work for the past few years has focused on exposing the Rorschach test as pseudoscience. He is on the editorial board of APSAC’s journal on child maltreatment. He has done research on the way children in incestuous family situations typically disclose their abuse to child protective services investigators (he has found that these children tend to be quite forthcoming, compared to, say, how Roland Summit used to describe them as trying to keep it a secret and needing prolonged prompting). He has also studied the behavior of child protection bureaucracies in citywide systems.
Bob Chatelle, Founder and Executive Director

Bob Chatelle is a semi-retired computer programmer, whose prior political experience had been as an anti-censorship activist for the National Writers Union (NWU) and the Boston Coalition for Freedom of Expression. He became concerned about the problem of false accusations from discussions with NWU colleagues Judith Levine, Debbie Nathan, and Mark Pendergrast. With his partner, Jim D’Entremont, he founded the Bernard Baran Justice Committee. Bob also operates the Friends of Justice blog.
Dan Finneran: Our First President

Dan Finneran got involved in legal work for people falsely convicted of child sex abuse after reading a 1988 Village Voice expose of the Margaret Kelly Michaels “Wee Care” case in northern New Jersey. Michaels had recently been convicted of bizarre acts of ritualized abuse against several preschoolers, and her case had scandalized the metropolitan New York City area, where Dan lived.

At the time, Dan was an appellate lawyer, more for pleasure and a thirst for justice than to make money. He was a retired New York City public school teacher who had gone to law school after ending his teaching career in the late 1960s. He confined his legal work to occasional appellate briefs, generally pro bono, on behalf of needy clients. Dan’s altruism reflected his long-standing concern for civil rights and social justice. And he knew intimately what it was like to be needy.

Dan’s family had similarities to that of Frank McCourt, author of the heart-rending memoir Angela’s Ashes. Dan’s parents were immigrants from Ireland, and when his mother was deported from the United States during the Depression for not having proper documents, his father was unable to care for the children. Dan and his siblings were put up for adoption and ended up living with a farmer in upstate New York.

As an adult, Dan returned to New York City and pursued teaching, and later, legal work. After reading about Kelly Michaels’s conviction during the “ritual abuse” panic of the 1980s, he wrote the Village Voice an impassioned letter, offering to help with her appeal. The letter was forwarded to article writer Debbie Nathan. She hooked Dan up with Mort Stavis, emeritus director of the Center for Constitutional Rights. Stavis recruited Dan into a team of volunteer lawyers he was assembling to work on Michaels’s appeal. Dan worked constantly and tirelessly on the team. His efforts helped ensure the success of the appeal, and the brief has been cited in many subsequent appeals of sex abuse convictions.

After reading Dorothy Rabinowitz’s first Wall Street Journal article about the Massachusetts Fells Acres case, Dan volunteered his services again and became part of the team that freed Violet Amirault and Cheryl Amirault LeFave. One of his fondest hopes was to live to see Gerald Amirault walk free.

In the mid-1990s, Dan was diagnosed with renal cancer. He did not expect to live many more years, but during his remaining time, he continued to pursue justice for defendants like Gerald Amirault. Dan read about another Massachusetts case, Bernard Baran, in a column by Katha Pollitt in The Nation. While Dan’s health did not permit him to get involved in the legal work, he nevertheless contacted Baran’s advocates, giving them much needed moral and financial support. He also befriended Baran directly, writing him frequently in prison. Baran was in the process of responding to Dan’s most recent letter when he received the news that Dan had died.

Near the end, Dan was physically frail. But his spirit was so strong that he seemed indestructible. Dan did his work with enthusiasm, humor and good cheer. He seemed eternally indignant at the constant injustices that people like Kelly Michaels, the Amiraults, and Bernard Baran suffer, yet eternally optimistic about helping to make the world a fairer place, even for falsely convicted sex abuse defendants. Dan left us on November 4, 2002. One of his final requests was to be buried with a copy of the U.S. Constitution. We hope that the work of National Center for Reason and Justice will long honor his memory.

I knew Evan Harrington when he was in grad school. I was trolling the witchhnt groups and we had a long exchange. I argued him into a corner and in distress he made a confession. I know why he's part of this gorup.

I need a shower and drink now. *shiver.*

[Project Willow]

triggers: assault description
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Nathan reported an attempted rape in Central Park in 2010 by a teen who told her his name and age (17) before masturbating against her and running away.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... ced_to.php

[Project Willow]

Great comment from "James" responding to FMSF proponent and Satanist Douglas Mesner in the comment section at Salon.

* James
* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 12:05 am

Retrospective survey: a review or contemplation of things in the past.

Exactly what this book is. Deny it.

And I gave you those articles because you asked for them. Now listen to the scientific principals you try to lecture me and read them.

If you want a citation on DID not being "solely" an iatrogenic artifact, here you go:

"Chinese versions of the Dissociative Experiences Scale and the Dissociative Disorders Interview Schedule were administered to 423 inpatients, 304 outpatients, and 618 factory workers in Shanghai by Chinese psychiatrists working at the Shanghai Mental Health Center. RESULTS: Dissociative disorders were diagnosed in 24 respondents by structured interview, and 15 respondents fell into the dissociative taxon on the Dissociative Experiences Scale. The outpatients reported the highest rates of childhood physical and/or sexual abuse and of pathological dissociation." - Excerpt from "Trauma and Dissociation in China" American Journal of Psychiatry 163:1388-1391, August 2006

Considering Mason's case, the disorder was an iatrogenic artefact of therapy. In layman's terms: that's the same as a doctor injecting a patient with a virus. The patient didn't have the virus before, but it's foolish to deny the patient doesn't have it after the injection.

Mason's case is a lot less legitimate than many other cases of DID I have seen and as I said before: I will not defend Wilbur's practices. I will not defend therapists who, even though it be unknowingly, cause DID. But I will defend Mason.

And I love how you try to defend the book as scientifically solid. She's come a long way from that article in the Playboy, right?

I remember her political agenda. A touchy subject apparently needing a radical move.

Yes, discrediting people is easy.

Let's just let people read the book as the cash-cow it is.
Let's not call it "scientifically solid" and watch people die in the wake of it's destruction.
Let's not associate the atrocities of psychology in it's infancy to today's practice and watch ongoing research collapse under political debate.
Let's not start diagnosing DID patients as schizophrenics again at the extra cost of another $2.8 billion to society.

If you wish to doubt my understanding. Fine.

I have trusted in yours.

[sw]

Trying to find a history of Deborah that goes back more than just a few years.

Debbie's husband is a M.D. in New York. He did the photograph's for her book. His name is Morten Naess.

From my experiences, people don't just get all up in false memory and save the accused work unless they are very passionate about the subject for personal reasons.

[Project Willow]

^^ Interesting. I did some looking but I was disgusted enough by half of page one on Google.

You can't change truth, my friend said, and you know, it does leak out sometimes. Here's one of the best reviews I've seen so far.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3F8X2CL8R ... ssionsNRPB

Fiction or Non-Fiction, October 25, 2011
By
Lori King
This review is from: Sybil Exposed: The Extraordinary Story Behind the Famous Multiple Personality Case (Hardcover)
This book begins:

"MANY YEARS LATER, THE WORLD would come to know her as Sybil. But, in 1933, the little girl with the colored pencils in her hand was simply Shirley Ardell Mason, a sensitive and confused fifth grader in the tiny town of Dodge Center, Minnesota. She was quiet and slender back then, with crisp clothes, dark hair trimmed in a Dutch-boy bob, and skin so milky that the veins stood blue on her forearms. She had no...."

And it continues on through the next several chapters - written in third-person omniscient - commonly used in fiction, but when used in non-fiction, the author reports not only what is presented as facts, but also relates them to the characters' thoughts and feelings and from there - conclusions. This is often seen in persuasive writing or `rhetoric'.

"In short, rhetoric is a mode of altering reality, not by the direct application of energy to objects, but by the creation of discourse which changes reality through the mediation of thought and action." (The Rhetorical Situation, Lloyd Bitzer, 1968).

I would have thoroughly enjoyed the story that follows had I not already been alerted by all of the media coverage that this book was written with a preconceived agenda - to discredit the book "Sybil". The narrators' use of colorful language and style of `telling the story' is truly brilliant - mesmerizing - enough so that the unsuspecting reader becomes so removed from the narrator as to forget that this book is no more than rhetoric meant to persuade the audience to believe, not only what they are reading, but in this case, to trust the facts given us as truth. We all know that no writer can ever know the intentions, feelings, thoughts of any character, but a truly gifted writer can use this tactic to influence the readers' beliefs - to control their ideas. Nathan is amazing and, for me, her ability to persuade discredits this book.

Though, I did enjoy watching the story and newly created character unfold, I wasn't persuaded that this all actually happened. The more I read, the more entertained I became until, I was nearly laughing. I was reading it out loud in a dramatic voice to my grandson, prancing around my brightly lit room, my long dark hair flowing behind me as I imagined the next dramatic scene I would read in the book.

I read "Sybil" many times and have looked at the research of Dr. Wilbur. I never felt like "Sybil" was written for any other reason but to inform the public of the work that was being done. It wasn't nearly as entertaining. I understood that the `alters' did need to be exaggerated in order that the reader could get a sense of them. Clearly, it would be very difficult, and I think still is, for writers to share with readers such a subjective experience as dissociative identity disorder. The fact that they must have discussed this was not surprising to me at all.

The last couple chapters were just more irritation and confirmation to me that this was a piece of work meant to persuade us of Nathan's political point of view about false memories, ritual abuse, and dissociative identity disorder. I did not see the connection of "Sybil" with any of that.

I think that Nathan is a wonderful writer. She may persuade many readers that her story is pure truth. She is talented enough to possibly bring enough questions to the mind of the public to slander the name of these three women who are no longer here to defend themselves. I am hoping to see her write a good novel - where her talent of writing fiction can be truly recognized.

Quote to remember:
"[Rhetoric,] that powerful instrument of error and deceit." (Essay Concerning Human Understanding, John Locke, 1690)

Thank you for the excellent review. I'll also refer to this description in future, "...third-person omniscient - commonly used in fiction, but when used in non-fiction, the author reports not only what is presented as facts, but also relates them to the characters' thoughts and feelings and from there - conclusions."

It makes sense that Nathan used that style, it exhibits a lack of respect for personal boundaries, as if she executed a kind of postmortem mental rape. That would be my rhetorical description of what the false memory people have done to survivors of extreme abuse in the public sphere since they began their campaign.

[Project Willow]

I've written Defaming Sybil on my lynnsart blog, and will be catching up with a review of responses on DIDiva.com over the coming week.

http://lynnsart.net/blog/defending-sybil/

Here's the end bit:

For the truth about Sybil, I recommend Dr. Suraci's recently published book, Sybil, In Her Own Words: http://www.amazon.com/SYBIL-her-words-P ... 423&sr=1-2. Unlike Nathan, Dr. Suraci not only knew Sybil but they were good friends. He says about the archives upon which Nathan based her work,

"If Schreiber were clever enough to con the world, would she not be smart enough to destroy incriminating evidence, especially, since she taught at John Jay College of Criminal Justice?"

I'll also leave you these words from Sybil's closest living relative, Naomi Rhode.

Originally posted here: http://sybilandmpd.blogspot.com/2011/11 ... l?spref=fb Sybil and Multiple Perosnality Disorder

"As Shirley Mason's (Sybil) closest living relative, I was close to her for the 30 plus years through the saga of her life journey. In fact, I was with her for several days during the week of her death, at her request, and was one of the only people that was in constant contact with her over those 30 years. I kept her identity confidential at her fervent request. Through all these years up until literally the day before she died, she verified the complete accuracy of the book, 'Sybil'.

"Debbie Nathan claims that she contacted me for an interview in 2008 and that I declined. Over the years many people have contacted me for information about Shirley's life. Not knowing their intent, always, I have declined all such interviews. If Debbie was one of those people, I do not recall the call, as I do not keep records of every call in a busy business life. I apologize for this, but I do not recall her calling.

"Knowing Dr. Connie Wilbur, and Flora Schreiber, also, the book concerns me greatly. It is an attack on their credibility, their research, and their professionalism. And, the book is a complete attack on the person I loved, Shirley Mason.

"Shirley did not die a recluse. Shirley was a loving, and productive woman until her final,lengthy bout with cancer. She painted, and taught painting. She sold her paintings. She corresponded with friends, and regularly with us. She was a woman of strong spiritual faith in God, loved her books and her music, and loved our family greatly. She chose, however, to live carefully and confidentially because she was adamant that her identity not be known. She was very protective of our family and any recourse her life and story may have on us.

Naomi Rhode