2016 Presidential Election

[seemslikeadream]

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who achieved the rank of Eagle Scout as a teen, has taken that motto seriously. His Eagle Scout status has him so prepared, he indicated this week, he’s ready to serve as commander in chief of the U.S. military.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-9oEG ... e=youtu.be


“As a kid, I was in Scouts. And one of the things I’m proudest of when I was in Scouts is I earned the rank of Eagle,” Walker said. “Being an Eagle Scout is one of the few things you get as a kid that, you are not the past, it’s something you are.”

The governor said whenever he attends an Eagle Scout ceremony, he tells the young man being honored that he’s not there to congratulate him, but to issue a charge – that once a Scout obtains the Eagle ranking, he is responsible for living up to that calling for the rest of his life.

He then drew from his Eagle Scout experience discussing his military philosophy. “America is an exceptional country,” Walker said. “And I think, unfortunately, sometimes there are many in Washington who think those of us who believe we are exceptional means we are superior, that we’re better than others in the world.

“And to me, much like my thought process of being an Eagle Scout is, no, being an exceptional country means we have a higher responsibility … not just to care for ourselves and our own interests, but to lead in the world, to ensure that all freedom-loving people have the capacity, who yearn for that freedom, to have that freedom.”

[Iamwhomiam]

I don't believe that, Nordic, not at all. And you might want to argue with someone living in the middle east that individual Americans are not complicit in causing the chaos our elected leaders choose to inflict upon their region, but I doubt you'll convince anyone that we are not.

I've spent my life helping others to empower themselves to find their voices to more effectively advocate their personal and community needs and desires. We all have the power to take a life, and nothing's more powerful than that. I wouldn't advise telling any who values their vote that it is meaningless and they are wasting their time by voting. Get involved locally, where change is more easily effected. Even if the local candidate of your choice fails to become elected, the winning opponent will become your representative. Whomever is elected President is your President, like it or not.

A revolution is a bloody affair and innocents always pay the greatest price For those lucky enough to survive, what results rarely resembles anything akin to that for which one took up arms to achieve.

Be careful what you wish for.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Well, Iamwhomiam, looks like your reservations may bear fruit:

Ted Cruz May Not Be Eligible For President After All


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7IOH3QPwU

Cruz’s Own Logic Says He’s Ineligible to be President
January 13, 2016By Taegan Goddard

Laurence Tribe: “There’s more than meets the eye in the ongoing dustup over whether Ted Cruz is eligible to serve as president, which under the Constitution comes down to whether he’s a ‘natural born citizen’ despite his 1970 Canadian birth. Senator Cruz contends his eligibility is ‘settled’ by naturalization laws Congress enacted long ago. But those laws didn’t address, much less resolve, the matter of presidential eligibility, and no Supreme Court decision in the past two centuries has ever done so. In truth, the constitutional definition of a “natural born citizen” is completely unsettled, as the most careful scholarship on the question has concluded. Needless to say, Cruz would never take Donald Trump’s advice to ask a court whether the Cruz definition is correct, because that would in effect confess doubt where Cruz claims there is certainty.”

“People are entitled to their own opinions about what the definition ought to be. But the kind of judge Cruz says he admires and would appoint to the Supreme Court is an ‘originalist,’ one who claims to be bound by the narrowly historical meaning of the Constitution’s terms at the time of their adoption. To his kind of judge, Cruz ironically wouldn’t be eligible, because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and ’90s required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a “natural born” citizen. Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.”

[seemslikeadream]

love it absolutely love it...

[Belligerent Savant]

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Charade within a farce based on satire and cynicism enveloped by jingoistic sentiment sprinkled with fascist undertones, masquerading as a democratic process, held aloft by theatrical optics = U.S. National Elections.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

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Charade within a farce based on satire and cynicism enveloped by jingoistic sentiment sprinkled with fascist undertones, masquerading as a democratic process, held aloft by theatrical optics = U.S. National Elections.

I can summarize that description with one word: circuses. As in the second part of our force-fed pacification diet we receive from the Empire known colloquially as Bread and Circuses. And if this recent interview with Bill Maher is any indication, the 2016 Circus looks prime to go buck-wild!

Well, it’s not just Lewinsky. He’s relitigating Bill Clinton’s entire scandalous past with women, from Juanita Broaddrick all the way up to Lewinsky.

Sure. Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers. And let’s not forget the [Jeffrey] Epstein plane that went to orgy island!

I’m very curious about when the Jeffrey Epstein stuff will come up, because evidence-wise, that seems the most damning.

Yeah. Because that sounds like the kinds of circles Donald Trump travels in, and knows someone like that. It’s interesting what happened with that because it came up, then Clinton put the quash on it, “Yeah, I met him a couple of times. I was on his plane. I never saw any underage Russian hookers. Maybe they were in coach, and I was in first class!”

Not even a hooker but an alleged “sex slave” who claims Clinton visited “orgy island.”

Right, right. If that came back in a way that was damaging to Bill Clinton—God, underage Russian hookers and sex slaves? Christ, you can get through a few things in American politics, but now we’re in Roman Polanski territory.

[Iamwhomiam]

I all but had forgotten about this interchange, Robert. Grasping at straws, trying to build a raft to kept afloat - Cruz's ship is sunk.

Time to bring in the clowans.



http://breadandpuppet.org/

[Iamwhomiam]

Interactive graphic.

[JackRiddler]

To think we could have had just this one and it would now be at 661 pages, with five to go.

[Iamwhomiam]

Ha! So very fitting a number!

[Nordic]

Maybe we could combine all three and change the title to "The USA is seriously dangerous"

[Wombaticus Rex]

Maybe we could combine all three and change the title to "The USA is seriously dangerous"

LMFAO doooooooooon't tempt me

I was about to lock this with a joke about thread proliferation, but really, forums are an attention economy and unless I see an immanent interpersonal shitshow, I'm not gonna resurrect the Fire Pit era.

[JackRiddler]

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Riddler for Mod 2016
Resurrect the Firepit Era - Make RI Great Again!
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=37667

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[seemslikeadream]

Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold are going to be elected....yes voting does make a difference

to real ordinary people ..living real ordinary lives.......parents trying to raise decent human beings ..it makes a difference

if Illinois and Wisconsin citizens didn't vote Illinois and Wisconsin would look like Kansas

[Luther Blissett]

Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold are going to be elected....yes voting does make a difference

to real ordinary people ..living real ordinary lives.......parents trying to raise decent human beings ..it makes a difference

if Illinois and Wisconsin citizens didn't vote Illinois and Wisconsin would look like Kansas

I'm overjoyed to hear that you're voting Stein.