French Uprising of December 2018

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:20 pm

French Police put out notice appealing for any information regarding Cherif Chekatt,suspect in #Strasbourg

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:22 pm

Sheriff Che. That's a real name, isn't it.
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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:27 pm

There is no reason it wouldn't be a real name, no matter what the truth is.

The French are not necessarily punning this the way we do.
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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

I don't believe it isn't real. I don't believe it is. I simply don't know.

Idle speculation: If there is a pun, it's for an English speaking audience.

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:24 pm

No, even the probable guesses aren't worth making at this stage. Our knowledge is prisoner to the spout, as usual.
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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:31 pm

'Green vests': Paris climate marchers spot overlap with 'yellow' comrades

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Stephane Mahé, Reuters | Protesters wearing yellow vests gather with demonstrators of the world climate march at the Place de la République during a national day of protest by the Yellow Vests movement in Paris, France, on December 8, 2018.

Several thousand people demonstrated in Paris on Saturday in a “March for the Climate” largely overshadowed by violent clashes taking place elsewhere in the French capital. “Yellow vests, green vests, we are all angry”, the Paris crowd chanted.

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An effort to raise the alarm about “the social and climatic emergency”, the march coincided with the United Nations’ COP24 climate conference taking place in the Polish city of Katowice. It was organised by environmental activist groups including Alternatiba and Les Amis de la Terre (Friends of the Earth). Similar marches were slated for more than 120 cities in France including Marseille, Lyon and Bordeaux on Saturday, alongside others around the world.

The Paris edition of the march saw its route modified at the last minute in order to avoid potential spillover from the Yellow Vest protests that have had the city on tenterhooks for a fourth consecutive Saturday, but organisers rejected authorities’ entreaties to postpone to event. Demonstrators were initially meant to set off from Trocadéro to the Champ-de-Mars, in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower in the west of the city, but the procession was shifted eastward instead. The climate protesters marched from the Place de la Nation to the Place de la République, where speeches and a concert were slated to conclude the proceedings. Organisers said 25,000 people had arrived on the Place de la République by 4pm.

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“End of the world, end of the month, for us it’s the same battle,” the marchers chanted.

Some marchers wore the high-visibility garment made iconic over the past three weeks by the so-called Yellow Vest protesters. That movement began in opposition to the French government’s proposed fuel-tax increases, but it has grown to include a more general fight to counteract diminishing purchasing power.

“Social justice is needed for climate conditions to improve. The two battles mustn’t be separated, contrary to what people would want us to believe”, a yellow-vest-clad protester called Alissa told Reuters. “This morning I was at the Saint-Lazare train station alongside railworkers. We were all together. We paper over our differences in the name of more social equality,” the 44-year-old artist added.

“Everyone can be in favour of the climate, yellow vest or not”, said Emma, a 20-year-old student in sustainable development. “If the Yellow Vests want to march for the climate, that’s even better and we welcome them with pleasure. Without social change, we won’t have climate change. The two battles converge,” she added. “There are people who have an environmental conscience but who, halfway through the month, have nothing left and who tell themselves ‘the important thing is survival and not to protect the climate’.”

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Saturday’s march is part of a wider “Rise for climate” movement, which has mounted citizen marches internationally every month since September in order to escalate pressure on global leaders to take climate-friendly action and to see it through.

Three years after the adoption of the Paris Climate Agreement during the COP 21 conference held in the city, decision-makers enthusiasm for the deal has waned and concerns have intensified over the world’s ability to stick to the pledge the agreement contained to keep global warming below 2°C through the end of this century.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron’s climate credibility has earned mixed reviews since his election last year – despite the “Champion of the Earth” prize the United Nations awarded him in September.

Macron’s eco-cred took another hit this week when his government announced it would abandon his carbon-friendly fuel-tax hikes to appease Yellow Vest protesters, a move environmental activists considered a “retreat”.

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:15 pm

"environmental activists" considered it a retreat, did they?

Like these guys, perhaps:

Exclusive: Oil giant ConocoPhillips backs carbon tax push
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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Heaven Swan » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:59 pm



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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Heaven Swan » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:49 am

I’ve been rejoicing about the Gilets Jaunes, but find this perspective, by Andre’ V, quite interesting.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50831.htm


What Happens If the French Yellow Vests Win?

By Andre Vltchek

December 24, 2018 "Information Clearing House" - What if protesters in Paris win, and the French government gives in to all their demands?

What if taxes are reduced, wages increased, President Macron steps down?

I am not talking only about the fuel tax; attempts to impose it have been already abandoned. I am not talking about increase of the minimum wage – the government already agreed to rise it by 100 euro per month.

What I am talking about are real, fundamental changes which many protesters seem to be desiring: substantial tax reduction for the majority of French citizens, generous increase in wages and enhancement of social benefits for all.

So, if the Yellow Vests manage to win all this, then what will happen? Who would benefit? But also, who would lose?

Continues here:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50831.htm
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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Jerky » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:35 pm

The Yellow Vests are, for the most part, assholes.

Fortunately, despite all the press they've been getting, no more than 30,000 of them have ever gathered to protest, max.

Meanwhile, anti-Brexit demonstrations have, on more than one occasion, topped half a million (the biggest one was 700,000+), all to barely any attention to British or European media for some odd reason.

What goes on?!

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby Grizzly » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:31 am

‘Let them eat cake’: Will France’s protests be quelled in 2019?

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France was hit by anti-government protests for much of 2018, starting from demonstrations against labor reforms, to the latest 'Yellow Vests' protests over fuel taxes. Our Paris correspondent Charlotte Dubenskij recaps events.
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Re: Yellow Vests protests continue Dec 31st, 2018

Postby Heaven Swan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:01 am



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Re: Yellow Vests in Portugal

Postby Heaven Swan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:10 am



Yellow Vests spread to Portugal
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Re: Yellow Vest Citizen’s Movement

Postby Heaven Swan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:24 am

“Citizen’s Movement” Gilets Jaune
These are not black blocs

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Re: French Uprising of December 2018

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:50 am

Jerky » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm wrote:The Yellow Vests are, for the most part, assholes.

Fortunately, despite all the press they've been getting, no more than 30,000 of them have ever gathered to protest, max.

Meanwhile, anti-Brexit demonstrations have, on more than one occasion, topped half a million (the biggest one was 700,000+), all to barely any attention to British or European media for some odd reason.

What goes on?!

J.


I hear jerky is banned again so I'll keep this factual.

In the UK, afaics:

Given the evident failure of the May regime of austerity and ignorance, Britain should get to vote on its government.

Anti-Brexit or Remain may currently be a majority opinion in the UK -- if posed as a simple binary -- but no demonstration for it ever remotely approached "700,000+" (!) (This random numbers mongering is worse than Trump estimating his inauguration crowd.)

Anti-Brexit looks milquetoast but it has purchase mainly because it has been taken up as the alternative to an actual socialist government by the Blairite right-wing, establishment, Remain-Tories and corporate media.

The real threat to the UK establishment is of course Corbyn and not the Brexiters.

Thus the focus on anti-Brexit instead of a general election is about as reactionary and useful to constructive change as Brexit itself. (The original referendum presented one of the dumbest false binaries ever: would you like a shift in determining which mix of capitalist corporations exploit you to maximum possible extent and profit most from the implementation of a highly repressive state?)

A repeat of the referendum is a fast-track to reviving the shattered extreme-right in Britain. Brexit would likely lose, but some UKIP successor would emerge powerfully, and a great many people would come away with the message that their votes mean shit and will be rejected until they choose the way the establishment wants.

Outside the UK:

Of course the anti-Brexit position has been absolutely hegemonic and dominant in corporate media coverage in Europe and the United States (insofar as U.S. media covers anything other than Trump and human interest bullshit).

There is no comparison in the U.S. or global reception: Anti-Brexit has gotten many times the coverage of the yellow jackets. (It is well understood that even showing the latter raises the fear of contagion, which happens a lot with such uprisings; we saw it once jump from Turkey all the way to Brazil.) Brexit has been easily the biggest EU story in Germany for month.

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As for the generic defamation of the yellow vests, it is not worthy of response, and all-too typical of the generic insults lacking any factual content that have gotten this poster banned again and again.

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