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82_28 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:28 pm wrote:But to film that shit in those days required a heavy camera.
You didn't just whip it out of your pocket passing by a crazy police beatdown and submit to youtube as you walked back home where it would go viral in seconds.
82_28 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:28 pm wrote:Plus cops never ever "snitch", testify against one another. They routinely let each other off on say DUI stops and stuff like that we hear about. Yet, I have yet to hear of a cop that kited a concern that his/her department was expressly told to do X and noted it was illegal/racist/unethical.
Face it, cops can do no wrong because they reliably do what they're told because if they don't, the "brotherhood" will literally get to them in some way. Cops are above the law. I'm with Nordic too. Without that Rodney King beating getting filmed the LA riots wouldn't have been possible -- the planned/social control riots needed fuel. AND this was before the Internet, so the job to get it out into the second largest TV market in the US and then on into mediasphere could have (must have?) been set up. I have no fucking idea. But to film that shit in those days required a heavy camera. You didn't just whip it out of your pocket passing by a crazy police beatdown and submit to youtube as you walked back home where it would go viral in seconds. Say whoever did film that beating of King wandered outside and said "SHIT! I gotta film this shit." So he runs inside, makes sure his battery is charged, tape ready to go and proceeds to go about filming what would incite the riots by taking to the media.
Never thought about it that way until these past few weeks courtesy of these past few minutes of thinking about what it all means -- end of day.
Oath Keepers Ordered to Stop Providing Security for Ferguson Businesses
By Ryan Lenz on December 3, 2014 - 3:36 pm, Posted in Antigovernment, Militias, New World Order, Patriot Groups
Local authorities have intervened and demanded that the Oath Keepers, an antigovernment group comprised of former military and law enforcement personnel, cease providing security for several Ferguson, Mo., businesses in the aftermath of a grand jury decision not to indict the white police officer who killed Michael Brown.
In a public statement, the St. Louis County Police Department confirmed that the Oath Keepers had travelled to Ferguson and begun “walking the rooftops of businesses” with “semi-automatic rifles” “for the purported reason of providing security to local business during the civil unrest in the area.” In so doing, police say, they broke the law.
“[T]he individuals from the group did not adhere to St. Louis County ordinance regulating security officers, couriers, and guard,” a statement the St. Louis Police Department provided Hatewatch said. The ordinance “prohibits anyone from providing security without first obtaining a license.”
The patrols in Ferguson—which do not appear to have been conducted by licensed guards—were organized by Sam Andrews, a former Defense Department contractor who is now a weapons engineer in the St. Louis area, The New York Times reported. Andrews’ voicemail box was full on Wednesday, so requests for comment could not be left.
The Oath Keepers’ armed presence in Ferguson is at least the third time in recent history that members of the group have come heavily armed to complicate already intense situations. In 2011, members of the group descended on the small town of Quartzsite, Ariz., to protect citizens from what they feared would soon be state-imposed marshall law as a fight erupted between the mayor and the police chief. Then, this April in Nevada, Oath Keepers backed scofflaw rancher Cliven Bundy as he stood down the federal government over $1million in contested grazing fees.
But in Ferguson, which has been the site of rioting in the aftermath of a grand jury decision not to indict a white police officer who killed a black teenager, the Oath Keepers have served a function more closely in line with that of a private militia––a service they have historically denied they provide.
“Oath Keepers are individuals that come from first responder backgrounds—military, law enforcement, fire fighters, paramedics—they’re the individuals that put themselves in harms way to keep others safe,” John Karriman, an Oath Keeper, told Fox & Friends yesterday. But what Karriman did not address is the ideological reality behind the Oath Keepers mission.
Since its founding in 2010 by former Army paratrooper and Yale-educated lawyer Elmer Stewart Rhodes, who hoped his Oath Keepers would be a first line of defense against the New World Order, the Oath Keepers have put themselves deep into the heart of the antigovernment movement. The group’s “Orders We Will Not Obey” are theoretical worries, including fears that the federal government will one day call upon the police and military to disarm and imprison U.S. citizens, that have adopted by many “Patriots.”
But in nearly four years since its formation, the group has edged nearer to being just shy of a heavily armed, well-trained paramilitary militia––an alarming trajectory for a group whose members have proven willing to stand against the federal government.
Of course, none of this is true if you ask the Oath Keepers.
“It’s really a broad group of citizens, and I’m sure their motivations are all different,” Andrews told The Times. “In many of them, there’s probably a sense of patriotism. But I think in most of them, there’s probably something that they probably don’t even recognize: that we have a moral obligation to protect the weakest among us. When we see these violent people, these arsonists and anarchists, attacking, it just pokes at you in a deep place.”
stickdog99 wrote:I was wrong. I joined an active protest about Garner and Brown today. Kudos to everyone who worked hard to lay the groundwork while I trepidatiously suspected a honeypot. Enough is enough.
I'm with Nordic too. Without that Rodney King beating getting filmed the LA riots wouldn't have been possible -- the planned/social control riots needed fuel.
Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:16 am wrote:Hey RI long time no see.
I just read this whole thread. Really good read but now its late and I'm going to bed.stickdog99 wrote:I was wrong. I joined an active protest about Garner and Brown today. Kudos to everyone who worked hard to lay the groundwork while I trepidatiously suspected a honeypot. Enough is enough.
NIce one. Good on you.I'm with Nordic too. Without that Rodney King beating getting filmed the LA riots wouldn't have been possible -- the planned/social control riots needed fuel.
They're only planned in the sense that if you push people hard enough they will riot. So in many senses not at all. But there is a dynamic at play. When King was bashed more and more people had video cameras, but what happened to him was not that unusual. It was only a matter of time before someone with a camera filmed a fairly common (but still shocking) event. But it wasn't what happened to King that sparked the riots - it was cos the cops that bashed him got off. So effectively if you tell a population or an identifiable part of a population to get fucked and rub their face in it often enough and then continually deny them justice and rub their faces in that as well at some point they'll lose it and go ballistic. Its a natural response. And fairly reasonable too.
If you want to count on that response as a reason to ramp up oppression then you don't need to plan the specifics. You just need to be prepared and wait. At some point things will go pear shaped and if you're prepared in advance you'll achieve your agenda.
MTV Releases Video Supporting Anti-Police Riots
You know shit is getting crazy when even MTV's viral-video sex educator is like: let’s talk about riots. Yesterday, Laci Greene posted this short video “Is Ferguson like Mockingjay?”
In a clever bait and switch, Laci entices us with The Hunger Games, and then 30 seconds in starts talking about the legacy of riots in the US. She discusses the Haymarket and Stonewall Riots, taking what otherwise might be seen as boring history and makes it accessible to MTV viewers.
This video signifies the shifts happening in discourse around tactics as the frequency and brutality of police violence becomes harder to explain or comprehend, with major publications and cultural institutions defending rioting – even militantly anti-police riots – in unprecidented ways.
Rory » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:03 pm wrote:Big fire in downtown LA last night (and at least one other in a different part of town).
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... ype=outfit
And then, I see the US Marine Corp are 'invading' downtown this week
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
Don't know if is all related but just seems a weird mix of things happening
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