Canadian_watcher wrote:but no one wants to answer as to why Barracuda, as of late last week, still had moderator privileges that I and at least two other people here can prove outright? right?
I've noticed that the 'group' has avoided this completely while simultaneously having the audacity to imply that I've ignored their posts. hilarious chicanery - juvenile and blatant - except that, when in the tank, you are at the mercy of the fish. Back on land, where there's air, none of this would wash.
I'm not ignoring the accusation.
I just don't understand why the post-editing part of it would have required special privileges.
And the being listed as a mod wrt blocking seems like an admin thing that he isn't responsible for and doesn't gain any powers from, per se.
But maybe I'm missing something.
Have you reported it to the (active-duty) mods?.
yes she did, last week I fixed it. I found that when 'cudda dropped his mod duties his account was removed from that status in one place in the settings, but not in another. There's two places that had to be modified and only one had been. It's not a change that get's made often, whoever did it just missed a step. it's fixed now.
having looked at the moderation log, no moderation actions have been performed by 'cudda as far back as I looked (~9days back).
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justdrew wrote:I found that when 'cudda dropped his mod duties his account was removed from that status in one place in the settings, but not in another. There's two places that had to be modified and only one had been. It's not a change that get's made often, whoever did it just missed a step. it's fixed now.
You fucking stole my powers!! I'm still special, though. And the robbed that smiles steals something from the thief, anyway, so we're approaching even.
But thanks for providing me with the perfect cover story. Now that everyone's read your post, they'll never think that I'm still secretly leafing through their private messages, surveilling them through their built-in laptop cameras, deleting all their posts from March of 2007, and back-editing entire threads to make it look like I won all the arguments with remarkable grace and aplomb. I'm in the clear.
At the very least it appears that Canadian Watcher has come to the conclusion that the game is rigged in somebody's favor. Hopefully she'll be back soon to further widen the breadth of her "foe" list.
having looked at the moderation log, no moderation actions have been performed by 'cudda as far back as I looked (~9days back).
Oh yeah, because I was always just dying to do some totally thankless "moderation actions". I'll get to those right after I get back from having elective gum surgery performed with a rake or something.
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(Not that you should care. Just saying. Took me long enough.)
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Project Willow wrote:During the discussion of any major news topic, one can expect three reactions: a small number of posters who inject the most preposterous ideas which would never have been entertained before; a number of posters who turn discussion into debates over favoritism and gatekeeping; endless interpersonal bickering, belittling, name-calling, and attempts at shaming.
There are truly gifted people here who remain engaged despite such silliness, but the cost to benefit ratio, is dwindling everyday.
Have to agree.
simulist wrote:Because of this I sincerely hope Jeff and his staff are listening, and that we can find a viable solution to these matters quite soon.
The only solution really is what you see riddler, c2w, Barracuda and others not so prominent or indefatigable do on a regular basis, which is call the bullshit, point out the errors in logic and reason, bring discussions back around to facts, ask for supporting citations and documentation, etc...
More rules is no good. Appeals to jeff and the mods to make them or spend more time here policing the ones we already have is onerous.
It is largely up to us. I don't have the patience for it generally and it's not what I would choose to do with the time I have to spend here. But that's how I see it.
Hi, BPH. I've thought a lot about your remarks since you posted them this week, and just haven't had the time to respond until now. Honestly, I hope you're wrong (about more rules being no good), but I also fear that you may be right. And the reason I "fear" that you may be right is because despite consistent volumes of intelligent commentary by those persons you've highlighted (and several others, besides), even this powerful antidote, which has worked in the past, does not now seem at all sufficient to prevent what's been happening here, which is an arguably downward spiral in the quality of discussion. And, the thing is, I really hadn't noticed it so much until I took a several-months-break from it. So of course it could just be simply that I've changed during those months. (And, to some degree, I'm sure that is also true. I'm much more skeptical now of the generic "well-organized global conspiracy" than I ever was before and, as I explained to a couple of people upon my return, "many of my neatly-packaged convictions from before now appear to me to be all-too-neatly-packaged to be anywhere near as real as I'd believed they were, most especially in a world that is as unpredictable and chaotic as this one actually turns out to be.")
Having said that however, I do think there is an emerging trend towards outright paranoia here (as in "fake events") that is spoiling discussion too often, and I think this is also undercutting the credibility of the board, causing the aforementioned "cost to benefit ratio" of continuing to engage here to be "dwindling every day." Which is tragic, in my view.
While I admire and appreciate those who possess the much-needed combination of intellect, intrepidity, and time to go toe-to-toe with the few (but very vocal) purveyors of paranoia on this board, I too-often find myself missing at least one of these key components — and sometimes all three.
Which is my (damn lengthy!) way of saying: you may be right, BPH. Because I'm not at all sure either that more rules (or even a single added rule) would prevail at this point.
So. In the immortal lyrics of Mel Brooks: "Hope for the Best, Expect the Worst."
Peace out.
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Rules won't fix anything... And we don't really need more. if ideas can't be shown to be crap then we shouldn't be banning them in an attempt to keep our "credibility" cos that is just not the anti fascist thing to do. There's a sort of strange loop there where in the process of trying to keep cred we'd lose it.
This board is always worse than it was in the old days - whether it actually is or not. I'm as guilty of thinking that way as anyone, and we've always had crazy talk here and a vocal shitfight about whether it should be banned or not.
I don't think there is any decrease in the quality of whats being put forward here (check out what stillrobertpaulson and slad are doing on another thread), and the signal to noise ration is the same as it ever was, well close enough anyway. If anything this board has become too rational (does anyone here even know what an egregore is anymore?). As if peering behind the curtain is just too full on. Dealing with the fact that monsters run the world is never easy, and the fact that they don't actually, just try damn hard to isn't necessarily a comfort. Neither is the fact that monsters are nearly always human, well the ones that are truly scary anyway, and most inhuman monsters are actually fish of some sort - if you take the time and effort you could probably catch and eat them.
Where was I?
Thats right - just drink beer and remember the govt/god/the corporation is on your side and will protect you from painful thoughts...What... shit sorry I meant- - when you disagree with someone just remember that really, neither of you are right. You both misinterpret limited information from a nervous system that is only capable of picking up some of whats going on in the first place, and other peoples certainty and your own is just foolish. We have no credibility to lose, cos we're questioning official narratives. We're challenging consensus reality just by asking about any of the things we talk about here. Thats necessarily gonna involve disagreement over whats real and what isn't.
Its never been easy and part of the reason this board still has value is that despite dodgy periods where people disagree or lose it with each other there is still enough good faith thought and consideration here to make it worth while.
Canadian_watcher wrote:they hate anything that doesn't go nicely along with the Big Brother narrative. If you happen to get in the way you'll be treated as if you were public enemy number one. this goes for absolutely ANYONE on this board - step out of line and you'll get yours.
I don't hate anything. I feel sorry for people when they mindlessly repeat fascist talking points, iterate obviously poor analysis as if it were The Golden Key, and throw open the door to the wolf with a knowing wink.
this was a fascinating comment and i would like to see it expounded upon. i took the liberty of de-fusing the self-destruct mechanism. current rule books overflow an aircraft carrier. the bureaucrats number in the millions. the jails are full. police military and intel get half a trillion a blank check every year. suspicion abounds. more chaos war and violence are looming. so, what is the "Wolf at the door" threatening this liberal arrangement? and the raison-de-etre of the winking dupes?
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Joe Hillshoist wrote:If anything this board has become too rational (does anyone here even know what an egregore is anymore?). As if peering behind the curtain is just too full on.
I don't think it's possible to be "too rational". Entertaining the notion of an egregore does not require irrationality. It just requires an open mind. Being rational and being open minded are not mutually exclusive.
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