US Presidential Election 2020

[Joe Hillshoist]

Good luck with this shit. I'm genuinely thinking of youse and wishing you all well.

[Belligerent Savant]

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What did sentiment in the market know earlier today that the rest of us didn't?

A rising market has tended to precede a victory for the sitting party 86% of the time since 1928

Stocks powered higher on Wall Street Tuesday as investors hope the end of a bruising U.S. presidential campaign may soon lift the heavy uncertainty that’s sent markets spinning recently.

The S&P 500 rose 58.92 points, or 1.8%, to 3,369.16 for its second straight healthy gain.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... mp-s-favor


Also: are these wealthy gamblers potential fortune tellers, or was there insider intel available to them? Perhaps it was simply the lure of returns for a presumptive underdog.

93% of bets being placed on a Trump victory over the last 24 hours.

According to gambling comparison site OddsChecker, 71% of money wagered on the outcome of the election was in favor of Trump over four hours this morning, a figure that represents a “remarkable” swing according to the site’s head of marketing, Sam Eaton.

“The 2020 election is following a very similar betting pattern to the one we witnessed back in 2016. The closer we got to Election Day, the more money came for Donald Trump,” said Eaton.

It’s normal for part-time gamblers to make late bets on the underdog, which according to the polls is Trump, because they are guaranteed higher returns.

However, according to Paddy Power, the numbers are massive, with 93% of bets being placed on a Trump victory over the last 24 hours.

“Even at the eleventh hour, punters are continuing to back Trump at the odds on offer,” said Ladbrokes’ Jessica O’Reilly.

https://summit.news/2020/11/03/british- ... tical-bet/


Shades of Sept.11 put options on American Airlines.

[RocketMan]

Whooh, this sure is a fascistic shitshow to end all fascistic shitshows!

Did you catch Trump prematurely and falsely declaring victory from the White House flanked by an array of flags surrounded by drunken stormtroopers in suits whooping and hollering?

Wwwwow.

And the networks are treating this as if it is the most normal thing since time immemorial for a US presidential election to stretch into days.

Lol.

[Belligerent Savant]

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This scam -- contested results -- was foreshadowed and strongly hinted by media and 'influencers', which means the fix was well-planned.

The overnight 'pausing' of ballot counting, Biden's oddly-timed 'statement' last night, and going back even further, the pushing of mail-in voting weeks prior to election day (and, the f'ing lockdown mandates as well. The lockdowns have served multiple functions) all contributed to what will be yet another theatrical display that will only benefit the beasts behind the curtains.

We were in a lose-lose scenario before last night; now they're simply doubling down on brazen activities. With more to come.

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[DrEvil]

^^The "foreshadowing" of the contested results was just Trump saying over and over again that he would contest the results if he didn't like them. Didn't take a genius to predict that the results might be contested. Don't really see the problem with mail-in voting or pausing the count overnight (people have to sleep) either, unless you buy into Trump's allegations of massive voter fraud (which, to be fair, are true, except he's the one doing it).

I wouldn't call it lose-lose, more lose-status quo. You have to get rid of the fascists before you can start in on the neoliberals.

[Belligerent Savant]

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It was and is an outright scam. As it has been for years.
It's only more brazen now.

"Get rid of the fascists"!!! By installing a different type of pro-Davos/Great Reset-friendly fascist, eh?

Again: the American people have been in a lose-lose scenario for some time. Now they've simply dispensed with whatever vague appearance of 'Democracy' remained.

Put aside your Trump hate for a moment and see it for what it is.

Biden and his ilk are well-beyond "neo-liberal". This isn't the early 2000s anymore.

If Trump is ousted, great. But now we have whatever vile agenda is in store for us led by the team of handlers running Biden's would-be presidency.

If it bears out that Biden is installed, impeachment proceedings will probably launch shortly thereafter -- or otherwise Biden's dementia will invariably take a turn for the worse -- paving the way for Harris as the proxy-in-chief on behalf of the team of handlers.

(Note to self):
Wasteful endeavor, tracking these overt displays. Focus should be placed elsewhere.

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[Belligerent Savant]

[DrEvil]

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It was and is an outright scam. As it has been for years.
It's only more brazen now.

Sure, but how? Why is it more brazen now? Has anyone been caught stuffing ballot boxes or hacking voter terminals?

"Get rid of the fascists"!!! By installing a different type of pro-Davos/Great Reset-friendly fascist, eh?

No, by installing a mildly competent Obama clone, as opposed to the incompetent fascist clown currently in charge.

Again: the American people have been in a lose-lose scenario for some time. Now they've simply dispensed with whatever vague appearance of 'Democracy' remained.

How? What is different this time other than the candidates in play, and who are "they"? The only one openly talking about throwing out votes and stealing elections is Trump, not Biden.

Put aside your Trump hate for a moment and see it for what it is.

Biden and his ilk are well-beyond "neo-liberal". This isn't the early 2000s anymore.

How? What exactly makes them so terrible compared to, say, late Clinton or early Obama?

If Trump is ousted, great. But now we have whatever vile agenda is in store for us led by the team of handlers running Biden's would-be presidency.

Who are the handlers? Why do you think there's an agenda, beyond the usual corporate fellatio?

If it bears out that Biden is installed, impeachment proceedings will probably launch shortly thereafter -- or otherwise Biden's dementia will invariably take a turn for the worse -- paving the way for Harris as the proxy-in-chief on behalf of the team of handlers.

(Note to self):
Wasteful endeavor, tracking these overt displays. Focus should be placed elsewhere.

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What overt displays?

Tl;dr: what I'm getting at is: your last two posts are full of vague hints of terrible things to come, but low on the specifics. I need specifics, dammit!

I'm no Biden fanboy, but he's not Trump, and that's an improvement right there. He won't be telling his fascist, heavily armed followers to stand by, or stack every government department with people whose only qualification is how far up his ass they can get their tongue, and most importantly, he doesn't think climate change is a Chinese hoax. He's a bowl of room-temperature gruel, compared to Trump's bowl of medical waste lightly sprinkled with broken glass.

[Belligerent Savant]

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The short version of my response is: 'terrible things' have been happening incrementally, frankly, since the advent of civilization, away from the hunter/gatherer communal 'dreamtime' approach to consciousness and towards class/pyramid structures inherent to 'city'/Empire building, but more pointedly:

'Terrible things' have been escalating in pace since 2001, and 2020 is clearly the next explicit 'foot forward' towards overt dystopia.

I've decided to stop investing as much time on this -- as it's ultimately counter-productive -- and will leave it at that, except for the inclusion of the following link, expounding on the allusions of my initial paragraph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreaming

(I'm not suggesting we revert to hunters & gatherers to address our ills, needless to say, though I do feel we can learn quite a bit from the philosophical approaches of our 'pre-civilized' ancestors)

[Harvey]

I'm no Biden fanboy, but he's not Trump

In essence, the same situation France was manoeuvred into: elect the self styled fascists or the bankers' candidate.

Once elected, Macron immediately set about sweeping privatisation which though it may not have been the spark for two years of protest, it certainly became the focus of them. Today we're all facing the precipice of a last great enclosure of the commons by corporate oligarchy. Neither Trump, Biden or Harris are offering to stand in the way of that.

About the only credit I can give to Trump is that where Biden was involved in manufacturing the war in Syria and begining four other wars, as vice president, somehow Trump presided over four years with no new major wars (as Craig Murray has just argued) and the collapse of the war against Syria. I accept his role in this is debatable, but that's still some sort of achievement.

[Grizzly]

So who won? I haven't looked, and I don't know. Or is this going to be a long drawn out thing?

[thrulookingglass]

Don't like corrupt elections, get active. Stop whining. Stop griping. Get out there and change things otherwise its conjecture. The whole process of determining presidential candidates is rigged let a lone the voting. Nixon vs Kennedy was one of the most corrupt elections in history and the only thing the upheld the "results" was that BOTH sides were guilty of rigging an election. Electoral transparency, get it or suffer the consequences. Didn't learn or change shit after Bush V Gore and here are the ramifications.

Trump was well aware of his wavering support and did everything he could to (pre-emptively) adulterate the vote. Delaying the mail is a felony offense. 'Nuff said.

[DrEvil]

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The short version of my response is: 'terrible things' have been happening incrementally, frankly, since the advent of civilization, away from the hunter/gatherer communal 'dreamtime' approach to consciousness and towards class/pyramid structures inherent to 'city'/Empire building, but more pointedly:

'Terrible things' have been escalating in pace since 2001, and 2020 is clearly the next explicit 'foot forward' towards overt dystopia.

I've decided to stop investing as much time on this -- as it's ultimately counter-productive -- and will leave it at that, except for the inclusion of the following link, expounding on the allusions of my initial paragraph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreaming

(I'm not suggesting we revert to hunters & gatherers to address our ills, needless to say, though I do feel we can learn quite a bit from the philosophical approaches of our 'pre-civilized' ancestors)

I get your point, I just don't think Biden will be any more terrible than Obama. He will suck in a normal, everyday kind of way, while Trump will gleefully burn everything to the ground. And as I mentioned, the big issue for me is climate change, and on that issue they couldn't be further apart, and the direction the US takes will impact the entire world.

[Belligerent Savant]

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"Burn to the ground"?

Under normal circumstances, in the modern era, all U.S. Presidents have done their part on behalf of Empire (starting wars, operating on behalf of special interests, etc). Trump wasn't really unique or an outlier in this regard. Actually, as Harvey alludes, he didn't start any new major wars in his first 4 years, as opposed to his predecessors.

The only substantive, and unprecedented, burning to the ground that occurred of recent note is the devastation to economy, livelihoods and well-being caused by the handling of this new virus strain, which would have been handled more or less the same regardless of sitting president since all actions related to this latest affront to the citizenry have been directed by other power factions.

You think Biden will enact policy beneficial to 'climate change', eh? Good luck with that.

There are directives currently in play that are far more pressing right now, and Biden is the ideal stooge to carry them out.

[Belligerent Savant]