The 2012 "Election" thread

[Elvis]

So yeah, couldn't Obama just issue an executive order and have Romney killed?

[JackRiddler]

I just realized the NYT link is almost two years old, added as a quick afterthought when I saw the headline.

And I didn't notice! So it hasn't been Hodge in charge and the last two years have been as good as usual, even if the Lapham touch (and monthly column) is missed. He's still in there every couple of months.

Phew! I've seen a lot of beloved institutions get canned - is WBAI going out of business? - but Harper's has been especially dear to me as the only sane general interest publication out there.

[MacCruiskeen]

Harper's has been especially dear to me as the only sane general interest publication out there.

I'd be very sad to see it go. This (for instance) was great, by Benjamin DeMott in October 2004:

Whitewash as public service: How The 9/11 Commission Report defrauds the nation.

[StarmanSkye]

Incredible ...
Over FORTY years of vote-fraud theft & manipulation. And its just gotton worse, more blatant & in-your-face, ignored & omitted by mass-media since evidence of well-organized & widespread vote tampering was first noted in 1970.

That's WHY we have a Deep State that is run by a corrupt criminal monopoly that has utterly subverted our Constitutional Republic.

Following is the historical backdrop of investigations that tried to uncover & expose how widespread votefraud has been since 1970 & how rigorously its been excused, covered-up, aided & abetted by the corporate media, the Justice Dept & FBI.

Together w/ all the other bullshit from 911, ie foreign wars, false-flag incitements, massive economic wealth-transfer, Deep State intrigue, Agenda 21 initiatives, Police State intimidation, surveillance industry repression, creeping techno-totalitarianism, corporate Facism & NWO Globalism, votefraud has been what made it all possible, even inevitable.

Damn are we screwed ....
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Vote Scam: The Stealing of America

James Collier interviewed here for Public Television, from Feb 2, 1996, on his 25 year investigation of vote fraud which he wrote about in his groundbreaking book, 'Vote Scam'.

Since then, Corporate-owned (5 mega-combines) mass-media continues to rigorously & routinely omit reporting on abundant & increasing evidence on systematic, organized defrauding of American elections. Its a HUGE Red Flag of endemic fraud & corruption all on its own. Corporate, MIC, special interest, global-Mafia manipulation of the Vote underpins the subversion of America's democratic Republic, enabling the complete takeover of gov & its institutions by a criminal syndicate.

[compared2what?]

Vote Scam: The Stealing of America

James Collier interviewed here for Public Television, from Feb 2, 1996, on his 25 year investigation of vote fraud which he wrote about in his groundbreaking book, 'Vote Scam'.

Since then, Corporate-owned (5 mega-combines) mass-media continues to rigorously & routinely omit reporting on abundant & increasing evidence on systematic, organized defrauding of American elections. Its a HUGE Red Flag of endemic fraud & corruption all on its own. Corporate, MIC, special interest, global-Mafia manipulation of the Vote underpins the subversion of America's democratic Republic, enabling the complete takeover of gov & its institutions by a criminal syndicate.

Speaking of which, that's not a public television show, it's a Liberty News Network production, which means it's one of the dozens and dozens of pieces of extreme right-wing propaganda floating around out there on the internet that Eric Odom presumably pays for out of the millions and millions of dollars available to him through the loose-knit cluster of front groups through which he works to promote various causes of the counter-radical One Percent.

[Jeff]

Now, this -

Romney Family Investment Ties To Voting Machine Company That Could Decide The Election Causing Concern

Rick Ungar, Forbes, Oct 20

...

A test conducted in 2007 by the Ohio Secretary of State revealed that five of the electronic voting systems the state was looking to use in the upcoming 2008 presidential election had failed badly, each easily susceptible to chicanery that could alter the results of an election.

As reported in the New York Times, “At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.”

We learn that one of the companies whose machines had failed was none other than Hart Intercivic.

...

So, why would these individuals who serve on the board of directors of Hart Intercivic go out of their way to make a contribution to any political candidate given the critical importance of their company remaining above reproach when it comes to the political process? And why would those who run the company that owns Hart Intercivic be giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to a political candidate? And why would a political candidate and his family have a financial relationship with a company that owns a chunk of the voting machine company that will be counting the actual votes given to that political candidate or his opponent?

...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... s-concern/

- this looks a tad dodgy.

[Nordic]

If they want to steal it for Romney, they can, and they will. Not a damn thing anybody can do about it. They did it in 2000 and they did it in 2004, and for all we know they did it in 2008.

Another reason that getting all worked up about Red Vs. Blue is nothing but an enormous waste of time. And what they want you to do.

[JackRiddler]

If they want to steal it for Romney, they can, and they will. Not a damn thing anybody can do about it. They did it in 2000 and they did it in 2004, and for all we know they did it in 2008.

Another reason that getting all worked up about Red Vs. Blue is nothing but an enormous waste of time. And what they want you to do.

So this is why you spend so much time obsessed with Obama and how those who vote for him are baby-killers.

[kelley]

i suppose a brief mention of george mcgovern's passing is necessary here, with all attendant ironies etc on the eve of this 'election'. the ny times headline in the online edition reads 'a life devoted to liberalism', as if the very idea of the thing itself has finally expired.

[Nordic]

If they want to steal it for Romney, they can, and they will. Not a damn thing anybody can do about it. They did it in 2000 and they did it in 2004, and for all we know they did it in 2008.

Another reason that getting all worked up about Red Vs. Blue is nothing but an enormous waste of time. And what they want you to do.

So this is why you spend so much time obsessed with Obama and how those who vote for him are baby-killers.

It's a fact, that if you vote for Obama, you vote for baby killing.

Why is that so difficult to understand? You're not stupid.

If you want to vote for someone who's not a baby killer, those candidates are available.

But go ahead and vote for the lesser of two baby killers. Fine with me, I don't really give a shit (WHICH I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY BUT WHICH YOU REFUSE TO FUCKING READ), especially seeing as how if they want to steal it for Romney, they will. Unless you're heavily involved in vote counting in a few counties in Ohio, or possibly Pennsylvania, or maybe Florida, or some combination of the above, your vote seriously does not fucking count at all.

Where do you live? New York? Yeah, okay, your vote is gonna make a HUGE difference. Just like mine in California.

Not.

The whole point is that elections are a sideshow, a distraction, and they do NOTHING nowadays. If you want to change things, forget about the fucking elections, kill your TV, quit paying attention to the red flags that the media matadors are waving at you. You're not a bull, so cut it the fuck out. I mean, why are you even at RI if you're as conditioned as you seem to be??

Makes no sense.

[JackRiddler]

This is like round 40 of the same old shit. [pointless insulting part deleted]

[DrVolin]

[pointless insulting part deleted]

Thank you. Much appreciated.

[compared2what?]

If they want to steal it for Romney, they can, and they will. Not a damn thing anybody can do about it. They did it in 2000 and they did it in 2004, and for all we know they did it in 2008.

Another reason that getting all worked up about Red Vs. Blue is nothing but an enormous waste of time. And what they want you to do.

So this is why you spend so much time obsessed with Obama and how those who vote for him are baby-killers.

It's a fact, that if you vote for Obama, you vote for baby killing.

Why is that so difficult to understand? You're not stupid.

If you want to vote for someone who's not a baby killer, those candidates are available.

But go ahead and vote for the lesser of two baby killers. Fine with me, I don't really give a shit (WHICH I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY BUT WHICH YOU REFUSE TO FUCKING READ), especially seeing as how if they want to steal it for Romney, they will. Unless you're heavily involved in vote counting in a few counties in Ohio, or possibly Pennsylvania, or maybe Florida, or some combination of the above, your vote seriously does not fucking count at all.

Where do you live? New York? Yeah, okay, your vote is gonna make a HUGE difference. Just like mine in California.

Not.

The whole point is that elections are a sideshow, a distraction, and they do NOTHING nowadays. If you want to change things, forget about the fucking elections, kill your TV, quit paying attention to the red flags that the media matadors are waving at you.

Please. Did you come up with that baby-killing thing all on your own, using your independent powers of second sight to discover the facts? Or did you pick it up via some red flag that the internet was waving at you? Can you think of any power, faction or party that might have an interest in playing on your emotions in that way with the aim of suppressing votes for one candidate? And if so, does he/she/it have access to the internet?

Fine. Then what makes you so sure that the stuff that distracts YOU is authentic?

[Nordic]

Listen, how fucking simple is it?

Obama conducts drone strikes in foreign countries using a "kill list".

Such strikes are conducted. 80% of the people killed are civilians. A certain number of those are children.

Those are simple facts.

If you choose to support this piece of shit human garbage by voting for him, you are, by the transitive property of fucking mathematics, supporting the blowing to bits of children.

Got that?

What part of that is so fucking hard to understand?

I've seen fucking DRUG ADDICTS less in denial than you idiots. Seriously. That is no hyperbole.

[Nordic]

Or are you trying to tell me that SOMEHOW, in your deluded mentally FUCKED UP universe, a vote for Obama isn't SUPPORT for Obama?

Whatever. You guys are out of your fucking minds with denial.