What is #Pizzagate?

[slomo]

^^^^^

[stefano]

Awesome, thanks OP ED.

On this, though -

J Podesta was on vacation with another pedo while this pedo was practicing. [OP ED doesn't have any pedophiles for friends, he thinks that's weird of itself] He (Podesta) has been mentioned, by his opponents, yes, as being involved in sex trafficking years ago. His brother collects child abuse art and parties at BG with about five dozen people suspected of similar or worse crimes as exhaustedly documented here.

It's Tony Podesta who's friends with Dennis Hastert. And if by "He (Podesta) has been mentioned, by his opponents, yes, as being involved in sex trafficking years ago" you're referring to the tweets by Andrew Breitbart, my understanding is that that was really stretching in relation to some weird video James O'Keefe had made for Breitbart about ACORN.

[Luther Blissett]

Okay sounds very good and woke although most people aren't going to support any of that (they're unfortunately going to want to give people in safe houses antipsychotics because the things they say make them uncomfortable, I've heard this again and again from people who were held hostage by abusers and offered shelter only on this condition)

But how does it justify the denial that anything could possibly be going on with Pizzagate? Whoever that comes from, not you personally.

(some posters are alternatively saying Pizzagate crowdsourced investigation is misguided aren't denying there's probably something to the "flap")

So when we open our safe house, we just won't give anyone anti-psychotics. Problem solved.

I'm just trying to say that each individual who is already spending many hours doing the same repetitive work as thousands of other people could instead be doing work that no one else is doing and that helps real survivors alive today.

Since, at Comet Ping Pong, there are still zero victims.

[divideandconquer]

Personal opinion, working theory, is that #pg is the magician's hand, but not the one you're supposed to be watching.

Being used to effectively communicate that the Podesta emails are irrelevant to the general public. As to its effect on the prospects for survivors time will tell. I don't personally think discussion of it in places like this is particularly relevant to anyone but us. This #fn bullshit was likely arranged well in advance to overlap with the psyop.

I'm interested in hearing more details about this hypothesis. It rings true enough that my curiosity is piqued.

Quite. This is the topic after all. (Although I would suggest that Detroit geography has as much to do with DC child trafficking as Giuliani's clone does, if not a lot more)

OP ED's unified Pizzagatekeeper Theory:

HRC is a CIA asset. The CF/CGI is a CIA front for laundry and leverage.

Epstein paid the startup, which, gatekeepers, should be enough to have everyone who touched his cash or was touched by it thoroughly investigated. This would include Brock and Alefantis.

(This is how Jeff's 9-11 research works, following the money)

Comparing the wrist slapping that Epstein received after all of the allegations levelled at him with another random recent pedocreep from another thread:

Bettman pleaded guilty in January to 11 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, and one count of distribution, receipt and possession of child pornography. He is serving a 25-year term in federal prison.

(25 years)

Tell me having the Royal Family and more powerful people on speed dial didn't have something to do with this. The court transcripts heavily imply that his in home cameras were intended for blackmailing.

(#operation Midnight Climax)

The Clinton/Bush/Obama-Clinton executive branch has hampered progress in Haiti for decades. Lobbying to weaken sex trafficking law, to lower wages, to help IMF/CFR interest to keep the country weak and pliable. Any other reading of their policy in this region is denialist dissonance.

Enter Silsby. Given her pedo contact, her protection by the established, her completely apparently nonexistent charity and her repeated offenses she is a criminal. This isn't even questionable. Where were the undocumented children going? Why does someone with a practically infinite budget have no place to keep the children she was rescuing (with startup cash from a man whose victims claimed he wanted to adopt children to train sex slaves and who has princes and presidents in his black book) ???
(Note to gatekeepers, this question has multiple question marks because it's silly you're ignoring it's ramifications)

J Podesta was on vacation with another pedo while this pedo was practicing. [OP ED doesn't have any pedophiles for friends, he thinks that's weird of itself] He (Podesta) has been mentioned, by his opponents, yes, as being involved in sex trafficking years ago. His brother collects child abuse art and parties at BG with about five dozen people suspected of similar or worse crimes as exhaustedly documented here.

Getting there.

Donald Trump has known the same people, again, for decades. He has publicly alluded to Epstein's tastes. He may well be on some videos currently in possession of the FBI.
(He's accused by one of the same victims)

(The BFF nature of his daughter's friendship with the Clinton progeny is odd to say the least, but it would be pure speculation to comment further on this)

Suspects, literally, in the greater Epstein debacles are, again literally, friends And commentators on the CPP Instagrams, this might be the strongest evidence against CPP, aside from, you know the whole money laundering thing that fingers Brock.


WL was promising the release of the rest of the CF/CGI emails which they were claiming would derail the ENTIRETY of the American electoral process.

This never happened.

My contacts in LOA/D who collaborate with Anon/WL are currently insecure as to the status of WL and its leadership, as to if they're uncompromised or even still alive. This even being in doubt casts a massively implicative cloud across this entire subject.

This is JSOC coopting a white hat operation that has already been contained to signal from one suspect group to another not to interfere in an election stolen by standard operating procedure.

There is more. But that's the introductions. There's still Seth Rich and the ambiguity of Assange and etc to factor.

No Satanism required. Just money and power.

Very true. But just because Satanism or dark spiritualism isn't required doesn't mean it's not a component, if not the underlying glue that holds it together. We're just looking at the tip, if that, of a very dark iceberg. In my opinion, something more than money and power is needed to keep this iceberg from melting.

Okay, I think I just contradicted myself...I do think that some kind of Satanism or dark spiritualism is required if what we're looking at goes as deep as this small tip suggests.

[guruilla]

So OP ED's "theory" is more of a summation of the least sensationalist data-points and he leaves out the fact that none of his dot-joining would have been possible without the dreaded #Pizzagate "psyop." It also did not back up his thesis by showing how "#Pizzagate" is making the Podesta emails seem unworthy of attention to intelligent people, unless by Pizzagate he means the MSM's version, or just the most extremely dumbed-down one? But the point of this thread has been to show how #Pizzagate is a single nomer for a wide spectrum of interpretations. So OP ED wants to remove occultism from the mix by ignoring the bits of evidence that point to that aspect, OK, fine, if it makes him happier. I guess we should be thankful of any kind of noise-reduction at this stage. Things have certainly come a long way from the OP over the last seven days and 23 pages.

For those coming late to the show....

Previously on "What Is #Pizzagate?" (from the POV of the OP-er; all emphasis is from the original posts)

So what exactly IS #Pizzagate anyway? What is it Elvis has been persuaded ~ legitimately or not ~ has been debunked?

To stick the name “#Pizzagate” onto an amorphous and constantly changing body of evidence (including pseudo-evidence, theories, etc) right at the start of the “investigation” (which is occurring via a million computer screens) is more than just premature. At this point, I think it's process-hijacking, one that we become complicit with just by using the term #Pizzagate, regardless of our position.

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Divide & Conquer works best when we don't take the time to define our terms, on our terms.

There is absolutely no reason for one of the most powerful people in DC to have a strip mall pizza restaurant

What in the fuck are you even talking about, though have some semblance of perspective on what you're saying.

5037 Connecticut Ave NW isn't a "strip mall," man. The internet exists, the fact you've never been to DC shouldn't be a handicap here.

Forget logic, here is the direct damage your frothing has wrought:

... Your only goal is climbing the ladder of online disinfotainment success. Any time you are pressed on the issue of consequences you sidestep it with bullshit philosophy. You are cavalierly fucking with people's lives with the excuse that you're making art, then you have the gall to call out other artists for contributing to the debasement of society. You are a goddamn hypocrite and wittingly or not, you are serving the perps.

Please reread your post Guruilla. It's one big personal attack on Project Willow. And acciusing her of just wanting to express her "strong feeling" in order to vent is a low blow. She sited 6 references to back up what she is stating.

The fact that you can't seem to fathom how the hysteria around PG and its' lack of evidence to stand on could negatively impact the credibility of victims past, present and future and instead go on about petty and imaginary board politics indicates to me that you don't really care about the victims.

You give off a familiar creepy vibration. Like a bug zapper. It's why I don't like you even though I agree with many of your points. I don't discuss these things often because they're hard to articulate. Something in the cadence bothers me.

Guru seems to understand what many do not, that the more powerful the perpetrators, the greater their exclusive right to name and define "reality", and the more completely that their arguments will prevail on their word alone. They do not need to provide evidence, proof, or anything of substance to back their claims. Psychological, physical, emotional, sexual, etc. trauma is an affliction of the powerless, not the powerful, and he's doing what all of us should be doing, searching for the truth. Yet for all of his trouble, he's crucified, so to speak. Why is that? Why is it that so many here are so concerned with protecting the powerful and condemning anyone who investigates for themselves? I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that for some reason people are attacking guru instead of looking into very disturbing evidence that makes it very clear that something diabolical is at play.

While Rigorous Intuition welcomes a range of informed perspectives, it is not intended to be a forum for the re-fighting of elemental human values. It should be assumed that this is a place where the dignity and rights of all people are respected. Members who challenge these rights may be regarded as disruptive, and members who habitually challenge them will be banned.
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Posts advocating violence, or espousing hatred of a people based upon race, religion, gender or sexuality, are not permitted.

And yet some of us here know for a fact that the gay subculture overlaps in countless ways with sadomasochism, pedophilia, and every other squalid vice (unsanctioned paraphilia) we can imagine. It just does, and if we want to pretend it doesn’t because of our chosen value set, then we’ve just joined the ranks of useful idiots enabling the evils of the elite.

Like I said, here be the nub of the disagreement. A glimpse into pedo-culture in Washington DC (and the world) means recognizing how that culture has hidden itself inside other cultures, in order to safely move through and into our lives. One of those Trojan horse cultures is gay culture. I doubt I’d be bold enough to say that so plainly here, if we didn’t have an insider to that culture who’s been brave enough to speak out about this reality before.

Tetelestai. It is said. Let the heads roll where they may.

Here's hoping the Fatal Flying Guillotine does its thing with you then.

I think suggesting gay culture is maybe a Trojan horse for organized abuse or just some normalization of pedophilia is hate speech, a designation not without merits when it's speakers are unwilling to engage the concerns of others.

I think Joe's post about hate speech is worthy of more discussion.

... I personally think some of the material in this thread is an intellectualized flashback to retrograde homophobic hate speech.

Um, guru has been saying for many threads that basically every portion of civilization that makes him uncomfortable is part of a millennia long program by pedo Satanism to shape the world. This is his default assumption which underlies his approach to all of these happenings.

Although I might get "squalid vice" added to my business cards.

I'm not in favor of strengthening censorship powers by the State but I have no problem with alternative media such as pirate radio stations- and Rigorous Intuition for that matter- deciding to ban hate speech, and then doing so.

my take on guruilla is he saying the extremely dark stuff is a part of all culture, not that all culture is a part of it (maybe I'm overthinking this one)

I think guruilla is saying that gay culture provides a good cover because it has an ethos of tolerance of perverse sexuality in many of its polymorphic forms. And I think he's right about that, to some extent. Other cultures (e.g. that of DC elites) also tolerate unbridled hedonism, so they too may provide good cover. How about the intersection of gay culture with the culture of DC elites?

Again, gay culture =/= gay people. Different things. And to equate them is to strip gay individuals of human dignity. To make this point is why I bothered to step into the conversation anyway.

Hard to believe this has gone on for 17 pages. It shouldn't have made it to 3.

Pizzagate is bullshit; a waste of time and a distraction. Pay attention to the names and remember them for future reference. Move on. No basement , no tunnels, no secret pedo pizza code words.

Thank you, Alex Jones. America will remember you & your honeypot always, you fucker.

How about [guruilla] stops abusing the joint and we'll stop hassling him about it.

I see zero evidence that guru is "abusing the joint". It could be said that he is using the joint as far as interaction. So the fuck what? My problem is with singling people out. For any motherfucking reason. It don't come down to me, but just leave him the fuck alone.

No fricken way. He has called me a self incriminating criminal. Because I called him on this comment here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40243&start=180#p624597

Read it. He is clearly violating some guidelines Jeff put in place to stop this sort of bullshit. Also - he is singling me out back, he just hasn't got the guts to use my "name".

Something was "off" on this thread even before the accusations of "hate speech" started getting thrown around, a tactic BTW that is so shamelessly transparent as to be self-incriminating to anyone with the eyes to see it for what it actually is.

Care to be more specific with that accusation?

Care to add some signil to that outraged noise?

Care to get your shit together and make a comment that isn't bigoted bullshit based in nothing more than your own ignorance and prejudice?

Not holding my breath. BTW This joint is called RIGOROUS intuition.

(I don't think I've ever done that before.)

For the record, all culture is a Trojan Horse. But if people don't do their homework, they will always rely on ideology to do their thinking for them. Why? Because they just keep on inviting the Trojans in. It's painful to watch. I'm just glad their are a lot more eyes on the board than there are pieces with mouths.

Well do us all a favour - go find a monastary in SE Asia somewhere and brick yourself into a cell.

It's for the agreements we are supposed to maintain here at Rigorous Intuition: against racist/fascist organizing, promoting hatred of oppressed groups, etc. (I don't suppose anyone here has a problem with any of that, or at least admit so). Also for "No Nazi" policies in pirate radio and other alternative media, etc.

You started and continue maintain a thread devoted to the "abolishing" of a race of human beings. The race I belong to, by all normal English linguistic conventions.

:threadhijacked:

This thread is about "pizzagate", not guruilla, yet every other post dissects him as if he's a lab rat.

1. Guruilla claims there is more to pizzagate than what the media acknowledges
2. Guruilla is not always politically correct
Therefore, pizzagate is nothing more than what the media acknowledges it is

1. D&C claims there is more to pizzagate than what the media acknowledges
2. D&C is a asshole moron who doesn't even know what a strip mall is.
Therefore, pizzagate is nothing more than what the media acknowledges it is

Rigorous intuition at it's best.

Thanks for the comments, this post and others about "subculture vs individuals within the subculture" has helped clarify the issue for me.

It seems very difficult for people to discuss nuance these days.

It's actually more like this:

1. Guruilla whines that if people point out his bullshit, it is surely a conspiracy against him and the children.

2. Slavering sycophant charges in to defend and buttress guru.

3. Guru rewards his pet with emoticons, compliments, and other treats.

This activity is known as grooming, I believe.

If you work hard and are lucky, D&C, you might even win a mention on Horsley's blog, honor of honors, like
tapitsbo. Nose to the grindstone!

A Guru walks into a pizza shop and asks the man behind the counter to make him one with everything.

And the guy behind the counter pulled out an AR-15 and shot the Guru to death.

Don't be silly.

Guru is just pissing on the board by free associating whatever he doesn't like with whatever potential nastiness he can come up with.

If he actually made some effort to be self critical of his ideas and build an intelligent argument that supported his ideas I wouldn't give a shit. He is not doing that at all. Where is the rigor.

Not within 1500 km of what he types that is for sure.

Also, the way the knife is poised ready to enter the "slot" in the meat. Sexual subliminals in advertising is nothing new, but at the very least it suggests that the clumsy, makeshift style of this image is illusory.

That says more about you than it does about anything else. Anyone who sees a machete cutting a piece of steak and thinks sex is fucked in the head. If that is what you are thinking when you see that get some bloody help.

Face it Guruilla, it's bad karma. Besides they'll chew you up and spit you out.

You say you're a survivor. Have you considered putting your healing first, then writing about your healing process with some reflections on politics and the state of the world? It would be much more grounded and honest, and possibly truly helpful to other survivors,

More than anything, the public's response to the content found for CPP is a strong gauge of where society is at right now when it comes to their moral compass in regards to such things.

What we are seeing in part is the pervasive effects of the ideology that the only thing that is wrong, is to call something wrong. Or more specifically, we are seeing many people who look at sexualized content (primarily through symbolism that is established by the suspects, themselves) of children, and having the reaction of, "Well it would be wrong of us to judge this," but not, "It is wrong to promote the sexualization of children."

We are also seeing a blatant demonstration of how fear of the elites plays into the moral convictions (or lack thereof) of the masses. . . . when powerful political figures are involved, many people suddenly lose all manner of logic and virtue.

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"People usually try to veil it, if that helps you to identify it when you see it. They're not going to come right out and say, "It's wrong of us to judge people for sexualizing children," because then they would look blatantly bad. Instead it is usually along the lines of, "These people may have some weird stuff on their instagrams, but that doesn't mean they are guilty of anything." "

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... they_know/

We tell dead baby jokes at work.

What's red and gets smaller?

Jimmy Savile's crimes are rooted in pirate radio
John Peel was allowed to run a 'schoolgirl of the year' competition on his late night show

If Peel were still alive, it is hard to believe that he would not be a person of interest to Operation Yewtree, the police investigation into Savile and others.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 70462.html

My missus runs a facebook site named in memory of John Peel. Its hard to not constantly remind her what a shit he was. But he did great things for underappreciated music. Dunno if that absolves him tho.

Once this line of inquiry was semi-successfully attached to "hate speech," it died on the RI vine I think. Such is the taboo-hierarchy.

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I'm just saying that having a rough sense of humor isn't evidence of anything. On seven mile we have tradition of trying to offend as many people as possible in one go. Jokes that invoke multiple biases are most effective. I.e. A Priest and a Rabbi walk out of a bar, see a little boy riding toward them on his bicycle.
Priest: "wanna fuck him?"
Rabbi: "outta what?"

The original answer was a baby combing its hair with a potato peeler.

I hadn't thought of that joke since primary school, but you know what. Its onto something. My youngest is at the point where she could conceivably access the potato peeler if it fell off its spot on the kitchen bench onto a container below it.

They should tell that joke at ante natal classes. It gets straight to the point.

Serious question Joe: What are you valuing?

If they are all tainted by association with him then everyone and everything is by similar association with something and we may as well top ourselves now and get it over with.

[slomo]

So OP ED's "theory" is more of a summation of the least sensationalist data-points and he leaves out the fact that none of his dot-joining would have been possible without the dreaded #Pizzagate "psyop." It also did not back up his thesis by showing how "#Pizzagate" is making the Podesta emails seem unworthy of attention to intelligent people, unless by Pizzagate he means the MSM's version, or just the most extremely dumbed-down one? But the point of this thread has been to show how #Pizzagate is a single nomer for a wide spectrum of interpretations. So OP ED wants to remove occultism from the mix by ignoring the bits of evidence that point to that aspect, OK, fine, if it makes him happier. I guess we should be thankful of any kind of noise-reduction at this stage. Things have certainly come a long way from the OP over the last seven days and 23 pages.

Yes, #PG is about a great many things. The Fake News narrative being chief among them, built upon hints of something (but what!?) that is really going on. To clarify my clapping post, if one is interested in digging more deeply into the Truth, following the flow of money is the most reliable path forward. The more sensationalist data points are fraught with all kinds of dangers and are therefore best ignored. Also: unless the alphabet agencies get involved, don't fall for the illusion that anything approaching justice can ever result.

[slomo]

(Removed request for RI members to self-examine motives for participating in this thread ... what's the point?)

[Luther Blissett]

A local Jewish family fled their home out of fear of reprisals after Brietbart reported that they were responsible for the local elementary school canceling their Christmas play (they were not, but their child was bullied for opting out of participating).

The family specifically cited the Comet Ping Pong shooting as the reason why they were fleeing.

[Project Willow]

OP ED's unified Pizzagatekeeper Theory:

HRC is a CIA asset. The CF/CGI is a CIA front for laundry and leverage.

Epstein paid the startup, which, gatekeepers, should be enough to have everyone who touched his cash or was touched by it thoroughly investigated. This would include Brock and Alefantis.

(This is how Jeff's 9-11 research works, following the money)

Comparing the wrist slapping that Epstein received after all of the allegations levelled at him with another random recent pedocreep from another thread:

Bettman pleaded guilty in January to 11 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, and one count of distribution, receipt and possession of child pornography. He is serving a 25-year term in federal prison.

(25 years)

Tell me having the Royal Family and more powerful people on speed dial didn't have something to do with this. The court transcripts heavily imply that his in home cameras were intended for blackmailing.

(#operation Midnight Climax)

The Clinton/Bush/Obama-Clinton executive branch has hampered progress in Haiti for decades. Lobbying to weaken sex trafficking law, to lower wages, to help IMF/CFR interest to keep the country weak and pliable. Any other reading of their policy in this region is denialist dissonance.

I think for those who pay attention, not news, but abducted black and brown children were used for potentially terminal ops/experiments. It was a long time ago but that is what I witnessed.

Enter Silsby. Given her pedo contact, her protection by the established, her completely apparently nonexistent charity and her repeated offenses she is a criminal. This isn't even questionable. Where were the undocumented children going? Why does someone with a practically infinite budget have no place to keep the children she was rescuing (with startup cash from a man whose victims claimed he wanted to adopt children to train sex slaves and who has princes and presidents in his black book) ???
(Note to gatekeepers, this question has multiple question marks because it's silly you're ignoring it's ramifications)

J Podesta was on vacation with another pedo while this pedo was practicing. [OP ED doesn't have any pedophiles for friends, he thinks that's weird of itself] He (Podesta) has been mentioned, by his opponents, yes, as being involved in sex trafficking years ago. His brother collects child abuse art and parties at BG with about five dozen people suspected of similar or worse crimes as exhaustedly documented here.

Getting there.

Donald Trump has known the same people, again, for decades. He has publicly alluded to Epstein's tastes. He may well be on some videos currently in possession of the FBI.
(He's accused by one of the same victims)

(The BFF nature of his daughter's friendship with the Clinton progeny is odd to say the least, but it would be pure speculation to comment further on this)

Suspects, literally, in the greater Epstein debacles are, again literally, friends And commentators on the CPP Instagrams, this might be the strongest evidence against CPP, aside from, you know the whole money laundering thing that fingers Brock.


WL was promising the release of the rest of the CF/CGI emails which they were claiming would derail the ENTIRETY of the American electoral process.

This never happened.

My contacts in LOA/D who collaborate with Anon/WL are currently insecure as to the status of WL and its leadership, as to if they're uncompromised or even still alive. This even being in doubt casts a massively implicative cloud across this entire subject.

This is JSOC coopting a white hat operation that has already been contained to signal from one suspect group to another not to interfere in an election stolen by standard operating procedure.

There is more. But that's the introductions. There's still Seth Rich and the ambiguity of Assange and etc to factor.

No Satanism required. Just money and power.

Yes. The Clintons long standing ties to CIA and the upper circles are demonstrable. Epstein funding needs to be pursued. Trump is part of the same network. Epstein, Silsby and her relationship with the Clintons are the strongest data points for arguing that real evidence exists.

What happened with WL is highly suspicious, including the timing of the East Coast net outage, but I don’t believe Assange would have published CF/CGI data, I think whatever happened behind the scenes is much more complicated.

The stakes here are very high. The waters were being muddied from the start, paid armies of internet trolls (including Brock's) were at the ready. Politically motivated bystanders were led down avenues of sensationalist and damaging speculation, RA survivor testimony unearthed and used as discrediting cudgel in the MSM (two birds, one stone). This is why real data is ignored in the major PG discussion forums, on Voat one has to sift through dozens of deranged leaps of imagination, some based in anti-semitic, or homophobic sentiments, to find anything of substance. The discussion on RI doesn't bother me as there are a range of views, many of them rightfully critical. What bothers me is the great distraction and consensus perception successfully being created in the wider world.

[tapitsbo]

Rachel Chandler and the "casting agency" she works for represent a blatant overlap between Pizzagate and Epstein stuff, in addition to what OP ED outlined.

[barracuda]

I think pizza gate is a Steve Bannon op from the get-go. Data points:

January 2015 - Trump's name was specifically circled by Rodriguez in the Epstein flight logs he attempted to sell to the victims lawyers. The butler points the way.

4/26/2016 - Jane Doe files rape complaint against Trump/Epstein.

5/2/2016 - Jane Doe rape suit dismissed on technical grounds.

6/20/ 2016 - Jane Doe refiles a similar complaint in a New York State federal court.

7/2/2016 - FBI Anon gives an AMA on /pol/ filled with vague allegations about the Clinton email case, including mentions of pedophillia by elites and the FBI, as well as asserting holocaust denial and that George Soros was attempting to institute world rule by pure-blooded jewry.

10/3/2016 - Jane Doe refiles her rape lawsuit again against Trump/Epstein.

10/8/2016 - Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" tape airs.

10/15/2016 - Wikileaks compromised.

10/30/2016 - White supremacist David Goldberg tweets a rumor of Clinton pedophilia ring. It is retweeted 6500 times.

10/31/2016 - Trump supporting Yournewswire.com publishes Clinton pedo ring article which was shared 28,000 times on FB.

11/3/2016 - Wikileaks' Silsby tweet.

11/3/2016 - First mention on /pol/ of "cheese pizza" in connection with Podesta emails on Wikileaks.

11/4/2016 - Erik Prince alleges Clinton pedo ring in exclusive Breitbart News interview.

11/4/2016 - Thomas Meager, lawyer for Jane Doe in the Trump/Epstein case files voluntary dismissal of the rape lawsuit.

11/23/2016 - Erik Prince's sister is selected to Trump's cabinet.

The activity around 10/30 through 11/4 is obviously coordinated. This entire op is a derail of the sexual assault allegations against Trump. I doubt Podesta is even a pedophile, frankly. Trump shows many of the signs, though.

[seemslikeadream]

[OP ED]

(I did in fact conflate the Podesta Bros in my rush last night)

(Apologetics/apologies. Rum and haste rarely mix well)


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I didn't avoid "the occult aspects", whatever that means, because they're sensationalist. I avoided things that don't look like evidence of anything. Focus on the bands and murals distracts from more obviously relevant information and encourages the post-fascist ultra-troll gangstalking on people who likely are undeserving of this attention. I also don't see any clearly Satanic signalling. (Only on 4chan is Abramovic a wizard, for example)

(This line of Inquisition also tends to add more confusion)

(Also, frankly their religion isn't relevant to whether or not they're committing criminal acts. Satanism and the occult have always been fair game to be slandered here to a much greater extent than more mainstream faiths, but if we replaced "Satanic" with "Judaic" or even "Islamic" many of you would no longer be members of the community here)

(All American politics above a certain level is a Christian only game, for much the same reason that less accepted religions are slurred even in relatively tolerant locales such as this virtual neighborhood)

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I understand that some of you seem to believe that dark forces must be responsible for bad people, but we don't agree. I look at this as an extension of the overlap between the Mafia and the intelligence cutouts which has existed for ages and usually required little more than mutual assured destruction, blackmailing, to function quite smoothly.

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As to #pg having had to have happened for the more grounded implications to exist, this is incorrect. Many of us have been reading WL for years, most everything I have mentioned can be sourced there or from more mainstream outlets. Silsby is on Wikipedia.

The more left of msm is now avoiding discussion of WL for fear of being associated with right wing trolls. That doesn't help anyone except Epstein get what they want.

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Want to engage in wild speculation, that's fine and all, just don't confuse speculation with research.

I have odd ideas of my own that I rarely share because of lack of evidence.

(I find the convenience of the timing of certain weather patterns that aid American businesses right when they need it and ignore the previous trends to be very strange, but I don't want people to think I'm totally nuts so I don't talk about the satellites)

(Etc)

[Wombaticus Rex]

Don't be silly.

Guru is just pissing on the board by free associating whatever he doesn't like with whatever potential nastiness he can come up with.

If he actually made some effort to be self critical of his ideas and build an intelligent argument that supported his ideas I wouldn't give a shit. He is not doing that at all. Where is the rigor.

Not within 1500 km of what he types that is for sure.

For this and a few others, you are the latest draft pick for Team 2017.

[OP ED]

Shame. I don't know of Joe having any sockpuppets either. Had to abandon mine years ago. Had some issues only tangentially related to the board that forced me off grid.