Jani's at the mercy of her mind

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Postby Nordic » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:32 pm

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BRAVO I am humbled and writhing with apology. Sharing the information about Jani's hypothalamus is the missing link. Now your critics know that there is a physiological basis for Jani's struggle and with that info we all see a different story, and a beautifully written one at that. I do hope that you write a book as a story of success and hope, that is the theme here. You have also been wildly successful with your stated goals of finding other parents and creating a blog environment where people who have suffered through serious problems with their children can write out their angst. Again, BRAVO.


~ahem~ Mac, I could be wrong, but I think that was sarcasm.


Well if her problems stem from a messed-up hypothalamus, does that mean she's just a "brat"?

Or will he still need the "schizophrenic" label to justify his complete breakdown?

It's a lot more difficult to admit you hit a kid because her hypothalamus wasn't acting right, than it is to admit you hit a kid because she was "out of her mind with schizophrenia".
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:09 pm

My webz r down so I am forced 2 write this from my phone. I can't effectively read all the posts so 4give me if I m missing something important but I feel a bit slighted that there now appears to be a really simple way to find this whole conversation via google.

Despite a number of inspiring posts, there is also some real nonsense in this thread and it would be painfully easy to ignore the important commentary via ad hom.

Oh well. C'est la vie.
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:19 pm

OK. I just talked to a pro. The word he gave, loud and clear, was this. There is probably nothing whatsoever we can do except generate as many smart non-screed letters (and calls) to CPS as possible. I,m going to write mine tonight. Et tu?
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Postby agitprop » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:33 pm

And it's "all about the little girl" isn't it? Seems to me some of the people on the Jani threads just want a darned good scrap. The morality cops in sensible shoes. I think you should volunteer to take Jani for a weekend, off meds, and if you have a baby she might try to punch out, well, it's all about getting her off drugs, isn't it, so it's just got to be worth it. And there's no use even suggesting you might be a bit off base, let alone completely wrong....because that would be trollish. Wouldn't it?
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:39 pm

Good thing your anti-troll note sure comes off as though it is not intended to provoke another scrap, eh?
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Postby agitprop » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:39 pm

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Postby agitprop » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:43 pm

lightningBugout wrote:Good thing your anti-troll note sure comes off as though it is not intended to provoke another scrap, eh?


It makes me sick to think of a child taken out of a troubled but loving environment and placed in emergency foster care, because of busybodies who can't for the life of them leave well enough alone....because they have never experienced anything remotely like this themselves
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Postby agitprop » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:06 pm

Good, the thread SICK has been moved. I was going to have Mac, try to defend herself against a charge with nothing behind it. Shoe on the other foot. Perhaps it was going too far, but this is what is happening to Micheal. Sure, suggest an advocate for the whole family. They need one. The parents are burned out...but don't demonize them.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:07 pm

agitprop wrote:And it's "all about the little girl" isn't it?


Yes, agitprop, that is in fact the actual thread topic, the topic of the LA Times article that prompted it, and the purported topic of the blog now being discussed: "January First" (sic). You appear to resent anyone actually acknowledging the existence of any other little girls than yourself.

Don't you remember? You too first entered this thread actually talking about "the little girl" in question, whom you don't deign to dignify with a name:

agitprop wrote:Anyone else would have institutionalised her permanently or pitched her off a cliff.


Maybe I've misquoted you very slightly from memory, agitprop. If you'd care to provide the exact quote, please do so.
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:15 pm

Agitprop you are making litlle sense. Throughout this thread several of us have made reference to experiences with people who are mentally ill. What gives with the whole we-must-not-get-it thing?
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Postby Col. Quisp » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:16 pm

What happened to the "Sic(k)" thread? It says it was moved but does not say to where.
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Postby sunny » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:19 pm

Col. Quisp wrote:What happened to the "Sic(k)" thread? It says it was moved but does not say to where.


Some truly vile accusations were made. I moved it to the mod forum so Jeff could look it over but others can't see the accusations.
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Postby Col. Quisp » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:25 pm

sunny wrote:
Col. Quisp wrote:What happened to the "Sic(k)" thread? It says it was moved but does not say to where.


Some truly vile accusations were made. I moved it to the mod forum so Jeff could look it over but others can't see the accusations.


Oh dear...I'm beginning to wonder if this little girl isn't channeling some sort of evil entity. Just look at the level of animosity being expressed on the subject, and the number of pages devoted to this issue. Very strange.
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:25 pm

Yikes. Please, sunny, do understand if (I assume u are) u are referring to my own that I was NOT making any accusation. At worst a poorly judged and frustrated response to a single quoted line. It didn't seem too vile. But if so - am sorry.
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Postby sunny » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:27 pm

lbo rest easy, I was not referring to anything you said.
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