Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

[blankly]

It does not surprise me that they were able to get out of Paris, either if it was by chance that the route they took after firing on the first police car on the scene was not clearly identified, or if it was but a decision was taken at some point not to set up a road block in a populous built up area when it was known that they were heavily armed and not fussy about who they killed.

[MacCruiskeen]

It does not surprise me that they were able to get out of Paris, either if it was by chance that the route they took after firing on the first police car on the scene was not clearly identified,

Nonsense. Of course it was identified. Hundreds of phone calls. Plus: Police cars have radios. (Note the position of the police car.)

or if it was but a decision was taken at some point not to set up a road block in a populous built up area when it was known that they were heavily armed and not fussy about who they killed.

Utter rubbish. They had already killed ten people in the office and then fired on people in the street, then fired on a police car in another street, then killed one policeman on yet another street. What was hugely dangerous was letting them escape, not catching them or preventing their escape! What makes you presume that they didn't plan on (say) driving down that boulevard firing out the windows at random passers-by? Or blowing up their own car at a crowded intersection? Etc. How could the police possibly know or even presume that the gunmen would suddenly go all harmless if they were just left in peace to get away?

[MacCruiskeen]

And remember that this incredibly lengthy, leisurely attack began with the two gunmen entering the wrong building (nr. 6 instead of nr.10) , firing several shots, threatening the people inside (without killing any of them or, say, confiscating their phones).

Then the Hebdo attack itself took "5-10 minutes".

And only then, the grotesque -- nay, impossible -- "getaway"!

[MacCruiskeen]

Paris is not Podunk.

[MacCruiskeen]

A question I haven't seen answered or even asked anywhere:

How did the policeman Ahmed Merabet end up lying helpless on the pavement in the first place (before the fatal shot filmed by Jordi Mir)?

Was he wounded? Who wounded him? When, exactly?

[Nordic]

A question I haven't seen answered or even asked anywhere:

How did the policeman Ahmed Merabet end up lying helpless on the pavement in the first place (before the fatal shot filmed by Jordi Mir)?

Was he wounded? Who wounded him? When, exactly?

That has always bothered me too.

[MacCruiskeen]

^^It's an obvious question, isn't it? Why is no journalist asking it?

The Zeit article I quoted one page back doesn't answer it or ask it either. But look at what it does say:

On the Boulevard Richard Lenoir they encounter the policeman Ahmed Merabet, 41. Like the gunmen, Merabet is the son of Algerian immigrants. He is traveling by bicycle. The Public Attorney's Office confirms that he was responding to a [police-]radio call to follow the gunmen. It is unclear whether Merabet draws a weapon to stop the the two men. What's certain is that the gunmen stop their car, one [sic] of the men gets out and shoots at Merabet.

Auf dem Boulevard Richard Lenoir treffen sie auf den Polizisten Ahmed Merabet, 41 Jahre alt. Wie die Attentäter ist Merabet Sohn algerischer Einwanderer. Unterwegs ist er auf dem Fahrrad. Er ist zur Verfolgung der Täter über Funk gerufen worden, bestätigt die Staatsanwaltschaft. Ob Merabet eine Waffe zieht, um die beiden Männer zu stoppen, ist unklar. Sicher ist, dass die Attentäter ihren Wagen stoppen, einer der Männer steigt aus und schießt Merabet an.

http://www.zeit.de/feature/attentat-cha ... nstruktion

I'm tired of writing "WTF?", but really, WTF? In response to multiple reports of a massacre by two heavily-armed gunmen at the Charlie Hebdo office, the police send along a solitary cop on a bicycle?

Note also that the Zeit journos fail to report accurately what everyone can see clearly on Jordi Mir's video: both gunmen got out of the car. This too was entirely unnecessary and requires explanation. And what had happened before they got out? Exactly what felled Ahmed Marabat before he was killed? (Also, and quite seriously: Where is the bicycle he allegedly arrived on?)

[MacCruiskeen]

charlie - definitions and thesaurus

noun charlie: pronunciation in British English /ˈtʃɑː(r)li/

1[countable] British informal old-fashioned a stupid person
feel/look a right/proper charlie (=very silly): You must have felt a right charlie when you found out it was all a joke.

Synonyms and related words for this sense of charlie:

Someone who is unintelligent, stupid or silly: boxhead, eejit, numpty, tragic, fool, buffoon, clown, idiot, maniac, dope...

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dict ... sh/charlie

[seemslikeadream]

I don't speak french...does that say we are all white?




CHRIS FLOYD
ALTERNET
ZNET

[MacCruiskeen]

Charlie Hebdo: “Je Suis White People"

by Black Agenda Report editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 10:13

http://www.blackagendareport.com/node/14622

[blankly]

I thought that they left the scene of the massacre, fired on the police car which blocked the road, crashed that car and took another? Following the reports I heard on french tv, it did not seem improbable that they could get out of Paris. Setting up a road block in the city, assuming you knew by which streets they were leaving, and which exit route they were joining, would seem to me to be inviting more casualties. So, I don't know which if either of these situations is close to what happened, or if, as you seem to be suggesting Mac, that there was something suspicious or incompetent.

[Joe Hillshoist]

A question I haven't seen answered or even asked anywhere:

How did the policeman Ahmed Merabet end up lying helpless on the pavement in the first place (before the fatal shot filmed by Jordi Mir)?

Was he wounded? Who wounded him? When, exactly?

In the seconds before he executes Merabet one of the terrorists takes cover behind a van and fiires what seems to be suppressing fire. I thought that was what hit Merabet. That video is what convinced me the brothers are actually trained but only just. The one that killed Merabet seems like he knows what he is doing and is trying to follow some planned procedure, the other guy (with the brown harness thing) looks like a clown with no clue.

[MayDay]

I am not Charlie. Rape jokes are never funny. Racism is not funny.

[MayDay]

I'm sure Pegida and other racist, facist bitches are having a field day with this.

[Elvis]

Maybe this has already been pointed out. A friend who lives in Paris says that the Charlie Hebdo group are considered "Trotskyites" and that "Trotskyism is used to divide the left."