Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

[Nordic]

Reference for my above post:

https://4thwavenow.com/2015/11/10/7-year-old-trans-activist-used-in-campaign-by-transgender-europe-a-german-ngo-partially-funded-by-us-state-department/

7-year-old “trans activist” used in campaign by Transgender Europe, a German NGO partially funded by US State Department

US taxpayers, did you know that some of your hard-earned money goes to a foreign NGO which uses a 7-year-old child to promote a trans activist agenda? Transgender Europe (TGEU), which is celebrating its 10th anniversary, states on its website (see bottom of page) that the US State Department is a donor.....read whole story and see video at link.



Why is the US State Department funding an organization-Transgender Europe- that is promoting the trans agenda in Europe? Why is Obama pushing so hard for the end of sex-segregated facilities for women? These are questions that desperately need to be asked. Just as the right-wing used abortion and gay rights to distract people from actual issues, it seems that the liberals are now using their smug defense of gay and transgender rights to distract people from actual issues. Although I would not call the State Department, worldwide purveyors of destabilization and war, liberal.

Just the latest ingredients in the ongoing "divide/conquer" recipe.

[Nordic]

[FourthBase]

Forth Base wrote:

If there's a remotely-legitimate source for what those Santa Monica cops are supposed to have said Howell said, then this whole thing will get a lot more interesting. Let's imagine for a moment that it's not bullshit and Howell actually told the cops that stuff. What in the fuck kind of CIA agenda would be advanced by simultaneous gun attacks against gay targets on each coast, one by a radical Muslim and one by a white reactionary? I'm stumped.

So our liberal leaders can flout their championing of an oppressed group targeted by violent haters (gays) while at the same time orchestrating and promoting a campaign of gay eugenics and genocide (transgender trend). The social planners are devious as devils and really outdid themselves on this one and big pharma is laughing all the way to the bank.

Note that they picked an oppressed group that in recent years has been focused on the subversive activity of getting married and buying condos and washing machines.

That's an interesting, unusual take. Go on.

[semper occultus]

Dave Emory has his next podcast...

Police probe German airport worker after links to Orlando killer Omar Mateen uncovered

POLICE in Germany are probing links between Orlando nightclub killer and an airport worker from Frankfurt.

By ALLAN HALL IN BERLIN
PUBLISHED: 08:26, Fri, Jun 17, 2016 | UPDATED: 08:34, Fri, Jun 17, 2016

Omar Mateen had been in touch with a Frankfurt Airport worker denied access to America earlier this year.

The 57-year-old man was from Afghanistan and reportedly wanted to visit mass murderer Omar Mateen at his home in Florida.

American immigration officials denied him the right to enter the country.

Now the FBI are probing Mateen's relationship with the Afghani man after he carried out the massacre at the Pulse gay nightclub, killing 49 people and wounding 53 others.

Frankfurt Airport was the site of an Islamist terror plot in 2011 when an airport post office worker shot and killed two US airmen and wounded two others.

German officials are working with the FBI to determine if Mateen was linked to a wider Isis network of terrorists in Europe.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/680764/Police-probing-German-airport-worker-links-Orlando-killer-Omar-Mateen-uncovered

[tapitsbo]

If only all of Western civilization could "probe links" between our corporate, media, finance, military establishments and the jihad juggernaut...

This remains the central taboo. There is so much hype about "radicalization", "blowback for colonialism", "terrorist threats" and "nothing to do with islam", etc. but very little public consciousness about government collusion with jihadist groups.

Even in Mateen's "pledge of allegiance" to these groups is sheer fantasy many aspects.of this dynamic are too real, are obvious around the world, but are particularly absent from public discussions in the anglosphere...

A musician who played during the Bataclan attack was subjected to intense censure and charges of Islamophobia for suggesting that the patrons (themselves partially cutouts/scapegoats) of jihadist groups exert too much influence over the Western MSM, for example

[nashvillebrook]

Russ Baker on Orlando (podcast):

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/


Somewhere between the rush to judgment that is the neatly packaged mainstream version of events in Orlando, and the wilder memes making their way around the Internet resides the truth.

In this week’s podcast, Russ Baker shares his thoughts about some the questions that he and his team will be raising in the weeks and months ahead.

Talking with WhoWhatWhy’s Jeff Schechtman, Russ ruminates on the FBI’s still murky history with Mateen, about the similarities between the Orlando massacre and the Boston Marathon bombings, and about the links between both events and reported efforts by the Bureau to recruit Muslim informants.

Is Orlando another such operation that went tragically off the rails? Reports have circulated that Mateen wanted to join law enforcement or the US military. Had he applied? If so, why was he turned down and where are those records?

Russ also talks about the security firm that Mateen worked for, whose lineage traces back to the disgraced and troubled Wackenhut, a power-player in the anti-Communist hysteria of the Vietnam era.

This conversation is a look inside the way a story begins to be investigated and to unfold.

[stickdog99]

Even if there were some essential anti-suicidal American characteristic, Mateen and every other radicalized Muslim in the world exist apart from that.

Yeah, of course, Because we are us, and they are them. Is that you, Donald?

[Nordic]

Just as an FYI, Omar Mateen had an IMDb page, which has now been scrubbed:



From here:

https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/16/o ... -an-actor/

Oh wait. I posted Luis Burbano's IMDb page by mistake. I'll leave it up since interestingly he was in a project called "Spirit of Orlando - Shooting Up" which has now been scrubbed.

Here is Mateen's:

[stickdog99]

Even if there were some essential anti-suicidal American characteristic, Mateen and every other radicalized Muslim in the world exist apart from that.

Most non-Muslim mass shooters and killers also are quite suicidal and end up by shooting themselves. The very act of a mass shooting is suicidal. Since the vast majority of these are not Muslims, I really don't see what your point is.

I'm not talking about mass shooters who, regardless of their religious proclivities, are often suicide cases who want to take others with them as they off themselves. I am talking about soldiers, spies, and agents for a country or cause. What I am saying is that you can't recruit a sane, non-suicidal, non-brainwashed American born and raised in the USA to complete a mission that logistically requires him to die for a political or religious cause. The only exception I know of is millennial cults such as Heaven's Gate. You can coerce Americans to commit mass suicide if they are under the influence of charismatic cult leaders who convince these people that they face imminent death in any case. But that's not the same thing as recruiting someone to kill others in a planned mission whose logistics guarantees suicide.

If any of you know an exception to this rule, please present the case. I'm not saying I'm right, but I've never heard of an exception.

[MacCruiskeen]

Why is the US State Department funding an organization-Transgender Europe- that is promoting the trans agenda in Europe? Why is Obama pushing so hard for the end of sex-segregated facilities for women? These are questions that desperately need to be asked. Just as the right-wing used abortion and gay rights to distract people from actual issues, it seems that the liberals are now using their smug defense of gay and transgender rights to distract people from actual issues. Although I would not call the State Department, worldwide purveyors of destabilization and war, liberal.

Weaker less aggressive males are easier to control.

[Nordic]

Well I'll just say that having an IMDb page for "acting" isn't exactly unusual. Then again I live in LA and work in the entertainment industry. Heck, I have an IMDb listing for "acting" and I sure as hell ain't a "professional actor" which is what people (the media) assume when they see an IMDb page.

[FourthBase]

Even if there were some essential anti-suicidal American characteristic, Mateen and every other radicalized Muslim in the world exist apart from that.

Yeah, of course, Because we are us, and they are them. Is that you, Donald?

So there's no special relationship to martyrdom for Islamic terrorists?

[MacCruiskeen]

Well I'll just say that having an IMDb page for "acting" isn't exactly unusual. Then again I live in LA and work in the entertainment industry. Heck, I have an IMDb listing for "acting" and I sure as hell ain't a "professional actor" which is what people (the media) assume when they see an IMDb page.

Exactly. The old joke in NYC is that there is no waiter who is just a waiter, they're all just stars-in-waiting. Which is why all this "OMFG he was an ACTOR!!!" nonsense (all over the "conspiracy sites") is so wearying.

And yes, any bodybuilding guy (of whom many are bouncers or security guards or the like) can quite easily get a small role as a heavy in any film, TV series or video short.

Just as an FYI, Omar Mateen had an IMDb page, which has now been scrubbed

I hate they way they do that. His Facebook and LinkedIn profiles will also have been "scrubbed", along with (and especially) his email account. It's all evidence (of his guilt or innocence) and it's all gone*. Handy, that. And of course it's all done with the sanctimonious excuse of "respect for the dead". Handy excuse, that.

*i.e., no mere mortal will ever see it. I presume it's all still in safekeeping in Langley, VA..

[0_0]

Hey Nordic, regarding what you said here:

Oh wait. I posted Luis Burbano's IMDb page by mistake. I'll leave it up since interestingly he was in a project called "Spirit of Orlando - Shooting Up" which has now been scrubbed.

anyone can edit imdb pages! The mention of the "shooting up" video wasn't there on the fourtheenth of june: http://web.archive.org/web/201606140504 ... nm3483499/ then was edited in on the fifteenth of june: http://web.archive.org/web/201606151559 ... nm3483499/ (prolly by some joker huh?) and then removed again today. Here is the clip anyway:



Regarding Omar's imdb page, weirdly enough "the big fix" is now edited out and only the "Love city jalalalabad" is left. But he definitely was in "the big fix" (see couple pages back) so now it looks like the Omar Manteen from "love city jalalalabad" is a diffrent person with the same name. Only he looks exactly like the alleged killer (holding the red rose, on your left):

[Elihu]

So there's no special relationship to martyrdom for Islamic terrorists?

Believer, adherent. Adjectives. That other word is a noun like "demon" or "pixie" or "elf",
Something symbolically evil requiring universal recognition. A general term for fear itself implying all out war. In other words believing in terrorists.