What is #Pizzagate?

[guruilla]

Relevant: he's trying to address the question "Who determined #Pizzagate to be a fictitious conspiracy theory" & presents evidence that the allegation CPP was ever investigated is false.

[liminalOyster]

Sorry, LO, but it IS totally crazy, under the circumstances, to try and put this forward as a way to absolve yourself of responsibility for stoking the fires of thought control at this forum by tossing out terms like hate speech because you found something intellectually threatening. IMO, THIS is the problem here, not ideologically challenging arguments that question assumptions about our culture.

Please rest assured that I did not find the material in question to be “intellectually threatening.”

[American Dream]

The emotional hook of childhood abuse may make this idea move more in the mythical sense than a material one. The question though is whether these myths serve any useful function. A fierce defense (of what?) does not change the truth that it's mostly just a shit show.

[Heaven Swan]

Bannon was the evil genius of the extroadinarily well-funded Trump campaign, without whom Trump wouldn't have won.

Bannon was not the evil genius -- that would be Jared Kushner.

Also, Trump 2016 was, if anything, an extraordinarily under-funded campaign, by modern standards.

Especially compared to his opponent.

(People who work in electoral politics will be studying 2016 for a decade to come, at least.)

Bannon is, however, an extraordinarily effective boogeyman.

All I know is that when Bannon and Breitbart/Trump funder Robert Mercer came on board Trump became less like a loose cannon and much more focused, telling suffering people what they wanted to hear in a strategic, almost surgical way.
Don't know too much about Kushner, but they probably all work together.


Rachel Maddow Explains "The Money Man" Behind Both Breitbart News And The Trump Campaign
Billionaire Robert Mercer Funded Both Breitbart And A Pro-Trump Super PAC

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/2 ... ign/212685

[Heaven Swan]

Perhaps writing about it in the way he does, is in fact part of this "healing". None of us are to say. To me, what he divulges of his personal business and experiences, simply make him a whole person.

I was referring to something that Project Willow had said. Can't find the quote but it was to the effect of "Until you do the inner work everything you say is suspect."

Don't know if he meant RA or incest or abuse survivor (and if he doesn't want to talk about it here he has a right to his privacy like everyone else) but I think PW meant that many survivors have gone public too soon and their healing has suffered for it.

And some, like Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor and others, have been utilized by perps to spread confusion and disinformation.

[Searcher08]

Bannon was the evil genius of the extroadinarily well-funded Trump campaign, without whom Trump wouldn't have won.

Bannon was not the evil genius -- that would be Jared Kushner.

Also, Trump 2016 was, if anything, an extraordinarily under-funded campaign, by modern standards.

Especially compared to his opponent.

(People who work in electoral politics will be studying 2016 for a decade to come, at least.)

Bannon is, however, an extraordinarily effective boogeyman.

All I know is that when Bannon and Breitbart/Trump funder Robert Mercer came on board Trump became less like a loose cannon and much more focused, telling suffering people what they wanted to hear in a strategic, almost surgical way.
Don't know too much about Kushner, but they probably all work together.


Rachel Maddow Explains "The Money Man" Behind Both Breitbart News And The Trump Campaign
Billionaire Robert Mercer Funded Both Breitbart And A Pro-Trump Super PAC

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/2 ... ign/212685

Media Matters was set up by David Brock who is the former long term lover of the owner of Comet PingPing, James Alefantis, who just likes to make pizza and play table tennis, occasionally having edgy Indy bands to create atmosphere and help branding. He is a nice guy who believes in social justice and helps out with using his places to help Democrats get elected.

Kushner is Trump's son-in-law.

Rachel Maddow is right up with Anderson Cooper and the New York Times as failed mendacious journalism.

Wombat's comment about Banning being a boogeyman us spot on. I have Jewish friends who actually think he is the new Eichmann. There is still a state of hysteria in the US.

[divideandconquer]

Relevant: he's trying to address the question "Who determined #Pizzagate to be a fictitious conspiracy theory" & presents evidence that the allegation CPP was ever investigated is false.

Strange. Supposedly, there are 133 comments, yet none of them appear. I tried refreshing several times, but nothing. Anyone else get the comments?

[Heaven Swan]

Bannon was the evil genius of the extroadinarily well-funded Trump campaign, without whom Trump wouldn't have won.

Bannon was not the evil genius -- that would be Jared Kushner.

Also, Trump 2016 was, if anything, an extraordinarily under-funded campaign, by modern standards.

Especially compared to his opponent.

(People who work in electoral politics will be studying 2016 for a decade to come, at least.)

Bannon is, however, an extraordinarily effective boogeyman.

All I know is that when Bannon and Breitbart/Trump funder Robert Mercer came on board Trump became less like a loose cannon and much more focused, telling suffering people what they wanted to hear in a strategic, almost surgical way.
Don't know too much about Kushner, but they probably all work together.


Rachel Maddow Explains "The Money Man" Behind Both Breitbart News And The Trump Campaign
Billionaire Robert Mercer Funded Both Breitbart And A Pro-Trump Super PAC

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/2 ... ign/212685

Media Matters was set up by David Brock who is the former long term lover of the owner of Comet PingPing, James Alefantis, who just likes to make pizza and play table tennis, occasionally having edgy Indy bands to create atmosphere and help branding. He is a nice guy who believes in social justice and helps out with using his places to help Democrats get elected.

Kushner is Trump's son-in-law.

Rachel Maddow is right up with Anderson Cooper and the New York Times as failed mendacious journalism.

Wombat's comment about Banning being a boogeyman us spot on. I have Jewish friends who actually think he is the new Eichmann. There is still a state of hysteria in the US.

Do you read Breitbart news? If you don't go take a peek.

If you read Breitbart and don't find it fascistic and you don't find frightening that it's former head will soon be steering the US government, then we have very, very different ways of seeing reality....and that's okay, actually it can sometimes make for a lively discussion.

I don't like fascist rule. You don't live in the US do you? Well things are going south fast. Last night I had to call 911 in the middle of the night because a man was chasing a woman down my street*. She was yelling 'Stop. Don't touch me " etc, so loud it woke me up. I looked out and they were running fast, he was chasing her and (thank god) she was yelling very loud. I hope I wasn't the only one to call the police, and they did come (too late), but my point is that the kind of climate that forms when people in government espouse hateful and misogynistic views can be quite dangerous for women, minorities, non-rich people, the list goes on. The bullies who hate feel emboldened and the result is not abstract.


*BTW this is not a 'high crime' neighborhood

[seemslikeadream]

Breitbart/Bannon is straight up FASCIST and everyone should know that by now if they read this site ...no matter where they live

[divideandconquer]

I think this video does a fairly good job of exposing the perpetual blurred line...



Meanwhile, is truth the new "hate speech"?

EXPOSED: Internal Documents Uncover Facebook’s Actual Guidelines for Censorship

Facebook's reasons for deleting posts seem to be an irrational morass of complexities frustrating its millions of users to no end, given the social media platform doesn't explain itself — but internal documents disclosed in a new report finally reveal why posts are taken down.

[Grizzly]

Strange. Supposedly, there are 133 comments, yet none of them appear. I tried refreshing several times, but nothing. Anyone else get the comments?

I too, experienced that I saw one comment and no others would appear even after refreshing several times.
Also experienced this before on provocative vids. It's like a sort of 'SHADOW BANNING ' quite, baudrillardian.

[82_28]

I waded into breitbart last week for the first time and was "shocked and amazed" -- not. It's nasty and compared to like Rawstory almost every "story" has upwards of thousands of comments. In the early 2000s my very left wing friend would send me a link from there and I would read it. I am naive. I think back then, from what I remember, it wasn't thought of as a hive of racist, fascist sacks of shit. There were a few interesting links if I remember right. I never went there other than following links but it wasn't until trump that I found out it was a fascist outfit.

[divideandconquer]

Using public knowledge (New York Times, etc.) , George Webb follows the money, arms, and oil in an attempt to discover what happened to the missing former Clinton Foundation CEO "Whistleblower", Eric Braverman, not to mention, Chris Stevens, Neil Brown (Eric Braverman's husband) and Mark Turi who are missing or dead, to prove the Clinton foundation is a mercenary organization, a Regime Change Investor Club that dates back to the pardon of Mark Rich (Clinton worked this pardon through John Podesta life long friend Peter Kadzik) . Eventually he adds "kids": "follow the money, arms, oil, kids?"

Braverman, according to John Podesta (WL email) was supposedly the anonymous source that told NBC to "follow the money and find the real HRC scandal." Braverman resigned right after this email.

From:ntanden@americanprogress.org
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2015-03-08 19:48
Subject: Re: Tweet from @JoeNBC

Holy Moses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:23 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eric Braverman
>
> JP
> --Sent from my iPad--
> john.podesta@gmail.com
> For scheduling: eryn.sepp@gmail.com
>
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Neera Tanden <ntanden@americanprogress.org> wrote:
>>
>> @JoeNBC: A source close to the Clintons tell @ron_fournier to "follow the money" and find the real HRC scandal. http://t.co/lPTQY0L0o4
>>
>> I'm hoping someone is keeping tabs on Doug Band. Quote in here is from someone who worked in Clinton Foundation.

The earliest video I could find was day #20 because most his research videos were hacked/deleted, but some have been mirrored and are still out there to be found.

[Wombaticus Rex]

What evidence is there that Eric Braverman is even missing, though? Just because he stopped using Twitter?

He currenty lectures at Yale:
http://som.yale.edu/eric-braverman
https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-braverman-85b7184

Hit him up: eric.braverman@yale.edu

[Cordelia]

Bit off topic, but I'm posting this here because I think it relates to how highly respected and powerful figures in Washington can tolerate, condone and, even (literally) pardon a pedophile. This week, Washington's NPR station is airing talk show host Diane Rehm's 'favorite' interviews from her 40 year career span (she retired this week). I find it kinda shocking that today's favorite choice was an interview with convicted pedophile Peter Yarrow, from Peter, Paul & Mary, about the group's music career. (fwiw, Rehm's been very vocal about the "dangers in fake news" and has also defended Comet Ping Pong on air.)

With upcoming presidential pardons, one from 36 years ago.

Folk Singer Peter Yarrow Pardoned by Carter

By Laura A. Kiernan February 7, 1981

"The day before he left office, former president Carter granted a pardon to folk singer Peter Yarrow, who pleaded guilty more than 10 years ago in U.S. District Court here to a morals charge involving a 14-year-old girl.

Yarrow, a resident of New York and once a member of the trio known as Peter, Paul and Mary, filed his petition for a pardon Dec. 10, according to David C. Stephenson, the acting pardon attorney at the Department of Justice.

In his petition, Yarrow cited his concern that he would soon have to tell his young children about what he has described at the time as "the most terrible mistake I have ever made."

Yarrow's petition also said, "It is my hope they will see a balanced picture, one that understands that their daddy did something very wrong but also one that asserts that their daddy has also done much for society to eliminate want and inequality where he saw it."

A presidential pardon, Yarrow wrote, would help his children understand that "society has forgiven their father" and might help lessen the "sense of shame that they will inevitably feel."

Stephenson said that Yarrow's pardon application was supported by letters from former New York City mayor John V. Lindsay, former Democratic senator George McGovern of South Dakota, Sam W. Brown and Mary King, the director and deputy director of the volunteer agency ACTION, and Jenny Lowenstein, the widow of former congressman and civil rights activist Allard K. Lowenstein."

Continued....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... a263372b0b


Peter Yarrow: the guest of dis-honor

".........His résumé also includes a sex crime.

A 14-year-old girl and her 17-year-old sister went to Yarrow’s hotel room in Washington, DC, in 1970 seeking an autograph, it was reported at the time. Yarrow, then about 32, answered the door naked. He made sexual advances that stopped short of intercourse, a tale recently repeated on the FrontPageMag.com Web site.

Yarrow served three months of a one- to three-year prison sentence after pleading guilty to taking “indecent liberties’’ with the girl. In 1981, the singer was pardoned by then-President Jimmy Carter on his last day in office.

Why did a president pardon a pedophile? Was it because Yarrow was married at the time to the niece of the late Democratic Sen. Eugene McCarthy?

Yarrow has repeatedly made excuses for his behavior. “You feel terrible about it, make your amends,’’ he told the Baltimore Jewish Times in 2006. “In that time, it was common practice, unfortunately — the whole groupie thing.’’

His “groupie’’ was a child!"

Continued.......
http://nypost.com/2014/04/25/peter-yarr ... dis-honor/

'groupie'; blame the victim. As I recall, the the older sister was the head of PP&M's area Fan Club.

(Of possible interest too, from Wikipedia, Yarrow's father,

"............Bernard Yarrow was recruited into the OSS, where he served with distinction.

After the war he joined Sullivan and Cromwell, the Dulles brothers' law firm. He was a founding board member of the National Committee for a Free Europe, an anti-Communist organization. In 1952 he became a senior vice-president of the CIA-funded Radio Free Europe, an organization he helped to found" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Yarrow#Early_life )