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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:34 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
Rupert Murdoch's Mouthpiece, quoting NBC, wrote:The "senior law enforcement official" says the package contains "writings about killing people" but "could not go into more detail."


WHO are all these unidentified fucking "law enforcement officials" who keep blabbering on incessantly & irresponsibly & with global publicity & without even the slightest adverse consequences for their own sweet selves - and (nota fucking bene), in complete contempt of the alleged information-curfew that's just been announced by the fucking FBI?


It's not uncommon for reporters to just make shit up, FWIW.

That definitely sounds like the kind of content-free "sourcing" that I'd lean on a correspondent for, and/or insert myself as an editor.

Of course, the use of "leaks" to control stories and steer investigations also happens to be a specialty of several dozen alphabet agencies.

Edit:

"senior law enforcement official" - the only kind worth getting the inside dope from, but "Sources familiar with the investigation" is also a classic fnord

"writings about killing people" - already implied by the story as it broke, a no-brainer call to make

"could not go into more detail" - sounds so authentic, innit? Plus, has the added advantage of not having any falsifiable details for when the actual story emerges later on
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby happenstance » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:04 pm

“Did you see the movie?” a creepy-sounding Holmes asked a stunned jail worker during a bizarre exchange Tuesday. “How does it end?”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z21eC5WpMO
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby justdrew » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:09 pm

from the above link:

Prison officials fitted him with a black plastic face guard to stop him from spitting on guards, and he wears a green bulletproof vest and ankle shackles.


It arrived in the mailroom on July 12, leaving Holmes a week to make his final grisly preparations for the midnight mass murders, according to the report.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z21gtDhuoz


wow, I'd hate to be the person who didn't check that mailbox, it would have been enough to get him 'checked out' I'd think.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby DrVolin » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:31 pm

It wouldn't be incredible for me to get a package like that from a student, and it wouldn't be incredible for it to go unchecked for a week.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby justdrew » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:34 pm

DrVolin wrote:It wouldn't be incredible for me to get a package like that from a student, and it wouldn't be incredible for it to go unchecked for a week.


yeah, it's totally plausible, even expect-able I guess.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby justdrew » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:46 pm

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He is, of course, referring to the reports that a number of men used their bodies to shield their loved ones during the Aurora massacre. Most of us thought of this as a noble and amazing sacrifice, but to the American Taliban, these may have been slutty slut sluts who use birth control (or even worse, vote for Democrats!) and make their own decisions, so whether or not they deserved to be saved is up to wingnut judgment.

You know who got to make the decision whether their lives were worth it, Taranto? The three heroes who ate bullets saving their loved ones, not some fat scumbag neocon filth sitting comfortably with a glass of bourbon while wanking on twitter from the comfort of a wingback chair in Manhattan.

These people are sick. I thought once that Derbyshire had been shitcanned from the NRO we might make it through a national tragedy without this kind of crap, but I was wrong.

James Taranto, go fuck yourself.




I just can get enough of rubbing John Derbyshire's nose in his own work...

John Derbyshire: Last Action Hero

by Alex Pareene

ImageWhen last we read charming old pervert John Derbyshire, he was advocating the execution of the British naval hostages for treason. Today, of course, he’s calling the students of Virginia Tech cowards.

Why didn’t they fight back, he wonders. Had he been in that situation — though, of course, he can’t be sure — he thinks he probably would’ve rushed the gunman, disarmed him, and subdued him with a Vulcan nerve pinch.

Yes, yes, I know it’s easy to say these things: but didn’t the heroes of Flight 93 teach us anything?


Yes: if you bravely fight back you will all die anyway.

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:47 pm

Happenstance quoted the NY Daily World, but it might as well have been the NYT or the Guardian:

the NY Daily World wrote: “Did you see the movie?” a creepy-sounding Holmes asked a stunned jail worker during a bizarre exchange Tuesday. “How does it end?”

Holmes, his eyes glazed and his voice flat, repeated the question when the worker ignored him, according to another jail employee who witnessed the incident in the infirmary.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z21gryA1u8


All unnamed, inevitably.

Wombaticus Rex wrote:It's not uncommon for reporters to just make shit up


That too. But then, in Shitworld, everyone plays his part in the shit economy. The shit economy is highly advanced. It includes, because it has to include, shit psychologists, shit journalists, shit moralists, shit police chiefs and the CIA.

And then, of course, it's also not uncommon for police forces, intelligence agencies and governments to just make shit up themselves before even letting the hacks loose on it. The point is that no modern tyranny can function without effective propaganda, and that we are all the Designated Consumers of Shit, just as James Holmes is the latest Designated Shit to be thrown to us for our delectation (yum-yum, get your teeth into that shit).

This is what happens when you're at the late end of three centuries of brutal and deliberate de-skilling, de-unionising, dislocation, de-sensititising, and enforced addiction to daily statements you have no chance of evaluating from people you have no chance of ever knowing. All you can do is consume. Either you swallow that shit whole immediately, or else you discuss it in a vacuum for a week or two until you too have absorbed it without noticing or have just given up because the next shit has been served up (by whom?) for your de-lectation.

De-licious.

It's all de-cidedly de-pressing.

I don't know about you, but I could use some happy music:

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:17 pm

^^^^
MacCruiskeen:
Absolutely De-vine, so de-scriptive of our de-cline into de-cadent de-generate de-mise.

--quote--
That too. But then, in Shitworld, everyone plays his part in the shit economy. The shit economy is highly advanced. It includes, because it has to include, shit psychology, shit journalism, shit morality, shit police chiefs and the CIA.

And then, of course, it's also not uncommon for police forces, intelligence agencies and governments to just make shit up themselves before even letting the hacks loose on it. The point is that no tyranny can function without propaganda, and that we are all the Designated Consumers of Shit, just as James Holmes is the latest Designated Shit to be thrown to us for our delectation (yum-yum, get your teeth into that shit).

This is what happens when you're at the late end of three centuries of brutal and deliberate de-skilling, de-unionising, dislocation, de-sensititising, and enforced addiction to daily statements you have no chance of evaluating from people you have no chance of ever knowing. All you can do is consume. Either you swallow the shit whole immediately, or else you discuss it in a vacuum for a week or two until you too have absorbed it without noticing or have just given up because the next shit has arrived for your de-lectation. De-licious.

It's all de-cidedly de-pressing.

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:15 am

Global Grind wrote:His behavior is so bad, that prison workers have been forced to put a face guard on him.

http://globalgrind.com/news/james-holme ... g-officers


Those poor (unnamed) "prison workers"! Imagine being forced!

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James Holmes, the Designated Shit, now stuck in a reactionary Hollywood piece-of-shit blockbuster forever and ever and ever.

ON EDIT: Also from Global Grind:

STORY: He Got Ho*s! James Holmes & His Stable Of Prostitutes

http://globalgrind.com/news/james-holme ... ds-details


James Holmes is not on trial. He's dead and gone already, like everyone else in an orange jumpsuit. Not that this will exempt him from sustained torture, any more than it exempts them.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Col. Quisp » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:33 am

jingofever wrote:
stoneonstone wrote:I would guess that upwards of 75% of the people in the theatre had cellphones.

No images at all? Find that is raising an eyebrow with me.

You find it strange that while being shot at with an assault rifle nobody stopped to take a picture? The theater tells everybody to turn off their cell phones so how could they?


And they don't allow cell phones to be taken into a theatre during a major premier, I've heard. I don't go to movies at all, but that's what people tell me.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:58 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:
MacCruiskeen wrote:
Rupert Murdoch's Mouthpiece, quoting NBC, wrote:The "senior law enforcement official" says the package contains "writings about killing people" but "could not go into more detail."


WHO are all these unidentified fucking "law enforcement officials" who keep blabbering on incessantly & irresponsibly & with global publicity & without even the slightest adverse consequences for their own sweet selves - and (nota fucking bene), in complete contempt of the alleged information-curfew that's just been announced by the fucking FBI?


It's not uncommon for reporters to just make shit up, FWIW.


Honestly, I'd say it was. It's not uncommon for them to quote someone on background without giving a moment's thought to what it means or how reliable it is, though. In fact, it's uncommon for them to do otherwise if they're TV reporters. I mean, that's their job.

So they might as well be making it up as not! But actual, outright invention? I don't know. It happens. I wouldn't have said it was an endemic problem, though....Well. How very sad.

The on-background sourcing is endemic, for sure. It should really be reserved strictly for very urgent whistleblower type stuff, and subjected to an extra two layers of scrutiny even then.*** But apart from that, it's just a way of not telling the public who wasn't working for them today, imo.

***Plus a few other, not very newsy contexts in which background quoting is totally harmless. But never mind.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby No_Baseline » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:26 am

http://www.filthytabloidtrash.com/2011/01/16/a-do-nothing-approach-to-boycotting-tmz/

STOP. Don’t click. Don’t comment.

It’s natural to want to immediately visit the TMZ website to leave a comment on the article—anything to tell managing editor Harvin Levin, his writers, and whoever else may be reading the article the TRUTH behind the lies. We are sensitive when it comes to Michael; we are defensive when we see a tabloid spinning an inconsequential event into something that appears to be a “scandal” worthy of the public’s attention.


This was such a great campaign against TMZ. I haven't trusted them since the Mel Gibson's wife-beating - let's only take source accounts - from - sources -who - say -the -wife's - teeth - WEREN'T - knocked - out stories...

The above response I posted from a January 16th, 2011 article from TMZ that a reader/subscriber told TMZ's audience how to NOT fight/actually fight against the Michael Jackson article posted by TMZ...

My point is, (thank you for being patient ;) ) that TMZ is NOT a reliable source for anything or anyone who can be bought...

Ya want a planted story about prostitutes? check. (Again, not saying it didn't happen, only that something exchanged someone's hands for the story to happen)

How reliable can this be? Please don't quote/source TMZ...
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby ninakat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:46 am

James Holmes Mugshot Taken Same Day of his Court Appearance?
by Scott Creighton, July 25, 2012

When someone is taken into custody and booked by the Sheriff’s office or city police departments, they are typically fingerprinted and photographed BEFORE they are processed into the system. During that processing they are stripped and put in prisoner’s clothing, usually an orange jump suit which they wear for the duration of their stay (unless they are in the “turtle suit”). That means when they are photographed for their mugshot, they are still in whatever clothing they were wearing when they were arrested. If you need proof of this, just go to your local convenience store and glance at one of those horrid little books on the counter showing who got arrested in your community. You will notice what they are wearing.

It would appear to me that James Holmes’ mug shot was taken on Monday morning right before he went into the courtroom. That begs the question, why?

And while we are talking about strange discrepancies, how come there is such a striking shift in his reported behavior during the attack?

Here is James Holmes’ booking mugshot. Now remember, at first they claimed they were not going to release his mug shot, but then, right before his court appearance, an hour before, they released it for some reason.

    “Earlier statements from authorities indicated the mugshot photo would not be made public, but shortly before Holmes appeared for his first court hearing, the mugshot photo was released.” Examiner

Take a look at his mugshot right beside a photo of him in the courtroom taken the same day the mugshot was released. What do you see?

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He has the exact same facial hair growth on Monday that he did on Friday? Now remember, the booking photo was supposedly taken when he was booked, on Friday morning, 3+ days before he went to court. But his facial hair is exactly the same? Take a look at the Adult Friend Finder pictures of Holmes. Obviously he can grow more facial hair. But here we see him with the exact same facial hair growth supposedly 3 days later.

Why is he already wearing the orange jumpsuit? And why does he look to be in the same emotional state as the did in court?

    * they release the mug shot that day after claiming they won’t release it
    * his facial hair growth is exactly the same
    * he is outfitted in orange jumpsuit which he wouldn’t get typically till after the mug shot

What does all this add up to? His mugshot was taken on Monday, right before he appeared in court.

Now why would they do that? Because James Holmes was so drugged when they found him already in the white car, he was too incapacitated to stand for the mugshot.

ABC “news’ is reporting that Holmes was running around in the theater screaming and acting like a madman, literally picking people up and shooting them with the other hand.

(It’s important to remember that ABC “News’ deliberately misrepresented a statement made by James Holmes’ mother on the day of the shooting)

    “Clad in head-to-toe combat gear, Holmes allegedly burst into a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises,” tossed gas canisters into the crowd and opened fire. Friends Stephanie Davies and Allie Young, who attended, said the gunman moved around the room yelling and seemingly targeting people.

    “He would shout, `What are you doing? I said stand up!’ And he would pick people up. I saw him stand over someone. I just see hair and him holding the shirt and `boom,”‘ said Davies, 21.” ABC “News”

Wow, what a crazed madman.. too bad that story is nothing like the myriad of reports that came out from witnesses right after the attack.

    “He looked so calm when he did it,” an eyewitness told NBC affiliate KUSA. “It was like scary. He waited for both the bombs to explode before he did anything. Then, after both of them exploded, he began to shoot.”

    “He had no specific target. He just started letting loose,” the witness added. MSNBC July 20th

    “Witnesses at the Century Aurora 16 complex said Holmes, 24, slipped into the midnight premier of “The Dark Knight Rises” through an emergency exit door, armed with three guns and wearing a ballistic helmet, gas mask and body shields. He tossed two hissing gas canisters and calmly walked up the aisle firing at movie-goers, killing 12 and wounding 58.” Daily Record 7/21

    “He was so calm it was scary.” “He never said a word” MSNBC broadcast
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Grizzly » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:58 am

MacCruiskeen

Meanwhile, the subject of this high-class whispering campaign (James Holmes, the Designated Bad Guy) remains literally gagged and as alone as any human can be.

Whatever he did or didn't do, he's now in the mouth of hell
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This... A thousand times... this.

One soul, Isolated alone in solitary where they can torment and mentally rape him forever. And tell YOU what to believe.

Mouth of hell, indeed. Mouth of maddness... Eye for an eye and all that. We are a soul sick culture. That wants revenge so bad it drives us to Megalomania...we would trample our first born babies in a blind drunken rage to do it. To excercise our blackness. We NEED our scape goats!

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby No_Baseline » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:23 am

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James Holmes Mugshot Taken Same Day of his Court Appearance?
by Scott Creighton, July 25, 2012

When someone is taken into custody and booked by the Sheriff’s office or city police departments, they are typically fingerprinted and photographed BEFORE they are processed into the system. During that processing they are stripped and put in prisoner’s clothing, usually an orange jump suit which they wear for the duration of their stay (unless they are in the “turtle suit”). That means when they are photographed for their mugshot, they are still in whatever clothing they were wearing when they were arrested. If you need proof of this, just go to your local convenience store and glance at one of those horrid little books on the counter showing who got arrested in your community. You will notice what they are wearing.

It would appear to me that James Holmes’ mug shot was taken on Monday morning right before he went into the courtroom. That begs the question, why?

And while we are talking about strange discrepancies, how come there is such a striking shift in his reported behavior during the attack?

Here is James Holmes’ booking mugshot. Now remember, at first they claimed they were not going to release his mug shot, but then, right before his court appearance, an hour before, they released it for some reason.

“Earlier statements from authorities indicated the mugshot photo would not be made public, but shortly before Holmes appeared for his first court hearing, the mugshot photo was released.” Examiner


Take a look at his mugshot right beside a photo of him in the courtroom taken the same day the mugshot was released. What do you see?

Image

He has the exact same facial hair growth on Monday that he did on Friday? Now remember, the booking photo was supposedly taken when he was booked, on Friday morning, 3+ days before he went to court. But his facial hair is exactly the same? Take a look at the Adult Friend Finder pictures of Holmes. Obviously he can grow more facial hair. But here we see him with the exact same facial hair growth supposedly 3 days later.

Why is he already wearing the orange jumpsuit? And why does he look to be in the same emotional state as the did in court?

* they release the mug shot that day after claiming they won’t release it
* his facial hair growth is exactly the same
* he is outfitted in orange jumpsuit which he wouldn’t get typically till after the mug shot


What does all this add up to? His mugshot was taken on Monday, right before he appeared in court.

Now why would they do that? Because James Holmes was so drugged when they found him already in the white car, he was too incapacitated to stand for the mugshot.

ABC “news’ is reporting that Holmes was running around in the theater screaming and acting like a madman, literally picking people up and shooting them with the other hand.

(It’s important to remember that ABC “News’ deliberately misrepresented a statement made by James Holmes’ mother on the day of the shooting)

“Clad in head-to-toe combat gear, Holmes allegedly burst into a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises,” tossed gas canisters into the crowd and opened fire. Friends Stephanie Davies and Allie Young, who attended, said the gunman moved around the room yelling and seemingly targeting people.

“He would shout, `What are you doing? I said stand up!’ And he would pick people up. I saw him stand over someone. I just see hair and him holding the shirt and `boom,”‘ said Davies, 21.” ABC “News”


Wow, what a crazed madman.. too bad that story is nothing like the myriad of reports that came out from witnesses right after the attack.

“He looked so calm when he did it,” an eyewitness told NBC affiliate KUSA. “It was like scary. He waited for both the bombs to explode before he did anything. Then, after both of them exploded, he began to shoot.”

“He had no specific target. He just started letting loose,” the witness added. MSNBC July 20th

“Witnesses at the Century Aurora 16 complex said Holmes, 24, slipped into the midnight premier of “The Dark Knight Rises” through an emergency exit door, armed with three guns and wearing a ballistic helmet, gas mask and body shields. He tossed two hissing gas canisters and calmly walked up the aisle firing at movie-goers, killing 12 and wounding 58.” Daily Record 7/21

“He was so calm it was scary.” “He never said a word” MSNBC broadcast


I am sorry, what am I missing? I saw the two side-by-side photos, and they they look how a guy would look photographed Friday night with stubble and then again Monday with thicker stubble...I don't know about the orange jumpsuit, but the facial growth is how it should be after three or so days, shouldn't it? I'm not a guy,so unless the guy in question has hair to his knees after three days, I'm gonna question to the contrary, because I can't see the weirdness here?...Plus, if he really was spitting like witnesses said, maybe they called it a day until the orange jumpsuit absolutely had to be fitted for a photo?

I don't know, and I have a lot of questions, but the stubble shouldn't be one if possible...
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