Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:19 pm

compared2what? wrote:^Have you tried doing that?


Have I tried listening to the broadcast? Of course. Have you? I posted my transcript on Dec. 23 and reposted the link directly above yesterday.

In case I wasn't clear: the brendanhunt quote I posted today is a clearer and lengthier account of what I transcribed last week. The paragraph you posted is not clear and not accurate. That was my point: his account is more reliable than yours, based on what I personally heard.

Incidentally that paragraph you've posted twice now is a second- or third-hand account swiped from elsewhere anyway so why should it have any particular reliability? :shrug:
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:29 pm

p.s. barracuda if that's "what ATS is today" I'm not surprised they're gumming up Google with a bunch of horseshit deleted pages.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby barracuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:43 pm

They have rules, like just about any forum does. The main Rodia thread over there was around 90 pages long before it was shitcanned.

Fun quiz time: Do you really think posting the personal information of private individuals including their addresses and phone numbers on the internet and accusing them of the mass murder of children is a good idea? Why or why not?
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:55 pm

^ yes I'll bet they have lots of rules. I'll bet they're quite an organisation. I mean organization.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby barracuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:12 pm

CHOL.*

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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby geogeo » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:56 pm

I followed both ATS and GLP threads for a while after the massacre, and it seemed like there was an immediate attempt to muddy the waters by the whole 'no children died' line. This is more than muddying, it's poisoning the water, and if intentional, an extremely clever way to make sure that the whole topic of inconsistencies--and, primarily, how the f-- this dude managed to carry it out alone and wiht no wounded--will be politely ignored and anyone who questions it will be treated like a pariah. Reminds me of the whole 'no plane hit the Pentagon thing', which experienced conspiracy-sniffers just a few days after 9-11 warned was an attempt to discredit conspiracy theories of all types (later, also, the whole thing about no planes used on the towers and etc.).

This type of op isn't really anything out of the ordinary for international deep black ops teams who have spread terror in the name of whatever across the world for decades. Being inside the US, a patsy is useful; there were multiple witnesses of multiple shooters at the Sikh temple as well, and etc. Oh, well, some 200+ witnesses of TWA 800 saw a missile or something streak upward and hit the plane. Didn't change a thing.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby justdrew » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:12 pm

but the only beneficiaries are gun makers and gun sellers




We're not going to see any serious gun restrictions from this, certainly no confiscation/mandatory buy-backs. As for a new largely bogus "assault weapons ban" - I'm fine with that and support it, though I don't think it'll really do much good. I think it's misguided to suggest that an act like this would be false flagged in order to get such a minor regulation in place. What's more we know that running amok is within the range of rare but possible human behavior, it happens sometimes. Certainly with the weapons at his disposal and the tendency for the targets to gather themselves together in a tight group. and I'm really not pleased to have been caused to consider that.




so yeah, I'm afraid the real deal here is that it tells us nothing about anything, it's a rare event, that happens sometimes. Such a disaster.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:50 pm

lupercal wrote:
compared2what? wrote:^Have you tried doing that?



Have I tried listening to the broadcast?


No. Pay close attention now, okay?

    First, go here to the police scan­ner audio and skip to ~25:36 and you’ll hear an offi­cer list a com­pletely dif­fer­ent set of plates and say “radar” (sug­gest­ing it was a pulled over speed­ing vehi­cle). We then hear that same offi­cers voice(or a very sim­i­lar voice) at ~30:43 say “run the oper­a­tor as well, the name is ...” and then he lists Mr. Rodia’s name and date of birth. And a com­pletely dif­fer­ent voice calls in the “pos­si­ble sus­pects vehi­cle” as “872 YEO” plate at ~30:22.

Have you tried taking the above steps?

That's what I was asking.

I posted my transcript on Dec. 23 and reposted the link directly above yesterday.


That's excellent, lupercal. Good job! I bet you're a really good driver slow in the driveway, too.

In case I wasn't clear: the brendanhunt quote I posted today is a clearer and lengthier account of what I transcribed last week.


It's not just inaccurate, it's wrong. Because (among other things) ou can fucking hear something about a traffic stop:

    skip to ~25:36 and you’ll hear an offi­cer list a com­pletely dif­fer­ent set of plates and say “radar” (sug­gest­ing it was a pulled over speed­ing vehi­cle)
The paragraph you posted is not clear and not accurate.


Hm. I don't see any errors in it. And it had no trouble at all understanding it, either. Would it help if you asked someone to draw pictures of bunnies to go with it, or something like that?

That was my point: his account is more reliable than yours, based on what I personally heard.


Congratulations for having ears!

There's a difference between hearing something and understanding it, btw,

Incidentally that paragraph you've posted twice now is a second- or third-hand account swiped from elsewhere anyway so why should it have any particular reliability? :shrug:


It's a quote from one of the same places you get your second- or third-hand opinions, dude. You are quite the sharp one to have noticed the link, though. Way to go!
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:54 pm

Hey lupercal!

Aren't you going to answer this one?

barracuda wrote:Do you really think posting the personal information of private individuals including their addresses and phone numbers on the internet and accusing them of the mass murder of children is a good idea? Why or why not?


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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:08 pm

lol.. round and round you two go. Are you not BORED TO DEATH of this schtick yet? everyone else is.
.. of course I mean barracuda and Compared2twat, not you, Lupercal.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:23 pm

geogeo wrote:This is more than muddying, it's poisoning the water, and if intentional, an extremely clever way to make sure that the whole topic of inconsistencies--and, primarily, how the f-- this dude managed to carry it out alone and wiht no wounded--will be politely ignored and anyone who questions it will be treated like a pariah.


I don't see anybody anywhere objecting to the discussion of inconsistencies, anomalies, or alternate theories. But geogeo, how much investigation/consideration of the facts would you want a bunch of people who happened to hear your name on a police-scanner tape to use before they publicly accused you of murder?

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I'm not sure I'm getting the points you just raised. But fwiw, there were people wounded, including the two adult surviving witnesses. Or so it's been reported, anyway..
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:36 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:lol.. round and round you two go. Are you not BORED TO DEATH of this schtick yet? everyone else is.
.. of course I mean barracuda and Compared2twat, not you, Lupercal.


Me? No, I'm good. Thanks for asking.

I am kind of worried by your new rhetorical habit of speaking for the multitudes, though.

Are you not BORED TO DEATH of this schtick yet? everyone else is.


oh we all know, JD, it's okay. your paradigm may someday shift. maybe not. you're the only one who has to care about that,tho.


A whole enterprise, complete with fiscal outlay, in order to prove a point that no one cared about in the first place and was moot, to boot!


It's almost like you don't think your opinion is worth anything on its own.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:43 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:lol.. round and round you two go. Are you not BORED TO DEATH of this schtick yet? everyone else is.
.. of course I mean barracuda and Compared2twat, not you, Lupercal.


You can take over now, though. So be sure to make things more fun for people and stuff.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:24 pm

^ did the lady drink too much eggnog last night? Because the lady doth protest too much, methinks. And if she hasn't bothered to listen to the broadcast she's making quite a spectacle of herself holding forth on what she thinks is in it. :shrug:
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby barracuda » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:40 pm

geogeo wrote:I followed both ATS and GLP threads for a while after the massacre, and it seemed like there was an immediate attempt to muddy the waters by the whole 'no children died' line. This is more than muddying, it's poisoning the water, and if intentional, an extremely clever way to make sure that the whole topic of inconsistencies--and, primarily, how the f-- this dude managed to carry it out alone and wiht no wounded--will be politely ignored and anyone who questions it will be treated like a pariah. Reminds me of the whole 'no plane hit the Pentagon thing', which experienced conspiracy-sniffers just a few days after 9-11 warned was an attempt to discredit conspiracy theories of all types (later, also, the whole thing about no planes used on the towers and etc.).


The most convincing explanation I've heard for the phenomenon is that the "no planes" hoax was part of the control valves created by the planners or the government spin doctors of the 911 attacks, which makes sense considering that quite a bit of the speculation along those lines originally arose from the public statements of Donald Rumsfeld.

There's a site - "September Clues," if you're interested - which is a fairly large community (over 1300 members) of individuals who are convinced that most large news stories such as this are simply a combination of video fakery, hired psyop actors, simulations, and photoshop manipulation of images. If a poster on that forum evidences any apprehension that a story under discussion might contain elements that are tied to something in the real world, they are quickly banned. If this worldview reminds you of the "no-planers", it's because the skill-set required to maintain the perspective that everything is a fake was collected and codified by the same group that started the 911 video fakery lifestyle. It's almost as if the shock of 911 inbred with over-viewings of the Matrix trilogy to birth a near religion of quasi-solipsistic X-treme media skepticism in which anything which you have not touched with your own hands is a construct of the system of media control. And while it certainly pays to be skeptical of what you see on teevee, I think they've gone overboard, and it seems that with each new massacre the idea seems to be spreading that none of it is real. I suspect it means something, sociologically, but just what, I don't know.

Anyway, there's a huge 30 page thread on the Sandy Hook shootings over there, if you have the stomach for it. It's actually kind of shockingly callous, but I think there's a degree of sincerity about their beliefs that can't be denied. There are true believers in their midst, no question.

Back on topic with more grist for the mill, the father of Adam Lanza claimed his body last week, but declined to specify where the body would be buried.

Not surprising, in a practical sense, but it ties right in with the no-plane approach.
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