Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby Nordic » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:07 pm

Searcher08 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:48 pm wrote:It was instructive to see the reaction of liberal friends to a posting of Glenn Greenwald's piece on what freedom of speech actually means, post-Charlie, with mass arrests for irony and deep sarcasm in several countries.

"Well that just shows Greenwald doesn't understand there are different freedom of speech laws in France"

Hmmm. M'Kay...

These are the same people whose (approx)
every third post is about how utterly dumb Republicans are and
every fourth is how idiotic and braindead theists are and
every fifth about 'tin foil hat wearers' and
every sixth about the variety of anti-depression meds they take.

I like them a lot, yet I think calling them 'sheeple' is implying a degree of coordination and organisation that is stretching it. I think they have such solid defence mechanisms that the idea of anyone 'playing them' is seen as a big insult to their 'critical thinking skills'.

Anyone else have reactions like this?



God yes. They listen to NPR, so they know everything that's going on.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby conniption » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:28 am

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Hypocrites Shine on Paris Catwalk

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French President Francois Hollande is surrounded by Heads of state as they attend the solidarity march (Marche Republicaine) in the streets of Paris January 11, 2015. © REUTERS/ Philippe Wojazer

12.01.2015
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The Paris unity march attended by over 40 world leaders has revealed the Western "double standard" approach concerning the freedom of speech and the battle against terrorism.

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US Media Bash President Obama for Absence During Unity Rally in Paris © AP Photo/ Pablo Martinez Monsivais

January 12 (Sputnik) — What an unrivalled parade of political hypocrisy. The sight of General Hollande, Conqueror of Mali; David of Arabia Cameron; Angela “Let Eastern Ukrainians die” Merkel; Ahmed “Assad must go” Davutoglu; even King Sarko the First, Liberator of Libya; not to mention Bibi “Final Solution” Netanyahu – all marching for “freedom”, “free speech” and “civilization” against barbarism in the streets of Paris would make every stalwart of Western intellectual tradition, from Diogenes to Voltaire and from Nietzsche to Karl Kraus, cringe in disgust.
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Seen from Asia, this political hijacking seemed even more grotesque. And no wonder a mixage went viral across Southwest Asia – home of Arab social networks; the “march for unity” in Paris coupled with Hitler and the nazis strutting their stuff with the Eiffel Tower in the background. Here’s the whole “freedom of expression” debate in a nutshell. Would that ever be allowed in the front page of a Western newspaper, satirical or otherwise?

One of the greatest tricks the ruling elites of Western civilization managed to pull off has been the myth of “free speech” – on a par with the myth of a “free” market. “Free”, yes, but to the extent the Masters of the Universe allow it. Any speech that blasts Atlanticist rackets – geopolitical or economic; exposes double or triple standards; and details really serious stuff – from financial crimes to war crimes and, crucially, Western-sponsored terrorism – is ruthlessly silenced.

So to vilify Islam as a whole, as well as 1.6 billion Muslims en masse, is acceptable, or at least tolerated. But to denounce Zionism is “anti-semitism”. “Freedom of the press”? Iran’s Press TV is banned all across Atlanticist domains. RT is routinely derided as the mouthpiece of an “evil” dictatorship. Will these “leaders” parade in Donbas or Damascus defending “freedom of speech”? Forget it.

“Our” NATO-living bastards

Arguably the icing on the lethal cake was the “support” to France offered by the House of Saud, which has just conducted the first round (50 out of 1,000 lashes) of public flogging of jailed blogger Raif Badawi. His crime: running a liberal website in favor of that oh so precious “freedom of speech”, but in Saudi Arabia.

Oh – the enlightened hordes cry in unison — but they are a “conservative kingdom”! They are certainly one of the West’s key strategic allies – as much for all that oil as for being a fabulous market for our weaponizing tools. They are “our” bastards. So yes, they can get away with anything.

The difference is that now the Masters of the Universe cannot so easily fool the overwhelming majority of the Global South, which understands there is hardly any substantial difference between the House of Saud, the myriad declinations of al-Qaeda, and IS/ISIL/Daesh – the fake Caliphate now in possession of “Syraq”.

The root of all jihadi hell, fundamentally, is medieval Wahhabism – and its primitive, intolerant interpretation of Islam. Yet this phenomenon cannot even begin to be discussed by Western corporate media. No “freedom of speech” there. The House of Saud and assorted Persian Gulf plutocrats are “our” bastards. They are even helping the Empire of Chaos-led coalition to fight Daesh!

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Highlights of Unity March in Paris Honoring French Terror Attacks Victims © REUTERS/ Youssef Boudlal

Even French intellectuals who used to make some sense of jihadism, like Olivier Roy, are asking themselves about the “link between Islam and violence”. Wrong question; it’s not about Islam but about Saudi-exported religious ideology/proselytism.

Internally, French society is not “threatened” by a Muslim presence – although it is indeed threatened by exacerbated Islamophobia. The key problem is that France does not know how to integrate its Muslim population, something that allows what sociologist Farhad Khosrokhavar describes as “terroristes maison”. These made in France terrorists start as petty thieves, are de-Islamicized and then re-Islamicized by neighborhood imams and most of all by the devastation wreaked by the Empire of Chaos and NATO over the lands of Islam.

NATO, which includes France, has been doing everything from bombing civilians (Libya) to financing/weaponizing/”supporting” the so-called “moderate rebels” in Syria. And it doesn’t get much better in the freedom of speech front. According to the BRussells tribunal, at least 404 journalists have been killed since the 2003 US invasion/occupation of Iraq; 374 of them were Iraqis. They were not exactly mourned by the freedom-loving Atlanticist gang. Neither were over 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians decimated by the Empire of Chaos in over three decades of imperial rage. Not to mention the 200,000 Syrians victims of the “Assad must go” war.

Where’s our Patriot Act?

In the counter-terrorism front, the post-Charlie circus will be a gift that will keep on giving – in full “war on terra” mode. All the alleged perpetrators are conveniently dead – so there are zero chances of piecing together the real story. This may have been Al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula (AQAP); this may have been division of labor between AQAP and IS/ISIL/Daesh; this may have been a jihadi commando that acted like pros until, as French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve admitted, they made the “one fatal mistake” – how thoughtful! — of leaving an ID card in their abandoned getaway Citroen.

The Ministry of Fear has issued a worldwide warning about the “continuing threat of terrorist actions and violence against US citizens and interests throughout the world.” There will be a “security” summit in the White House on February 18 – even as France’s Interior Minister stresses Europe needs to “exchange information” about people returning from “Syraq”.

It does not occur to any “expert” that the “West” created the playground for “these people” to go hone their jihadi skills in the first place.

King Sarko the First, predictably, is on a roll. His new spin is “war of civilizations” – which is essentially a made in France take on Dubya’s “war on terra”, paving the way for a French Patriot Act. The real game, though, has nothing to do with “democracy”, or “freedom of speech”, not to mention “war of civilizations”. And predictably, the only Western response is to multiply the tentacles of the Orwellian surveillance/security hydra – a dead ender because it refuses to address the real root causes of jihadism.

Up next: a Guantanamo made in France sponsored by Dior. Thank the Lord we have so many bright politicians to protect us.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stefano » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:40 am

Moussa Coulibaly: Three French anti-terror soldiers stabbed on patrol outside Jewish radio station in Nice

Three French soldiers on anti-terror patrol were stabbed outside the offices of a Jewish radio station in Nice today.

None of the soldiers were seriously hurt. Their attacker was seized by two tram workers and was in custody today.

Police said the man was called Moussa Coulibaly, 31 – the same surname as Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman who killed four people at a Jewish supermarket in Paris on 9 January.

The incident was being treated provisionally as a terrorist attack but Nice police sources said last night that he was “an unbalanced individual” who had a record of violence towards police officers.

They said they did not believe that he was related to the Paris gunman. Coulibaly is common name in Mali in north west Africa.

The three man patrol was part of a force of 10,500 soldiers deployed in shopping areas, railway stations and outside synagogues and mosques since the jihadist attacks which killed 17 people in Paris last month.

The man attacked the soldiers in the Avenue Jean Médecin, in the centre of Nice on the Mediterranean coast. Police said that he tried to stab one soldier in the chest but that his knife was deflected by a bullet-proof vest.

He cut the soldier on the face and slightly wounded the two other soldiers when they came to the aid of their comrade.

One soldier was cut on the cheek, another on the chin and the third was stabbed in the leg, according to the local newspaper, Nice Matin.

The newspaper’s website said the attacker had paid a fine for travelling on a tram without a ticket a few minutes before the attack. After leaving the tram, he ran towards the soldiers, dropped a bag at their feet and then attacked them with a knife.

He was wrestled to the ground by two tramway ticket inspectors and a passer-by and was in custody this evening.

It emerged later, however, that the attacker had recently attempted to fly to Turkey but had been turned back at Istanbul airport. He had Turkish lire in his wallet at the time of the attack, Nice police sources said.


More details in French media - that he was on a DGSI (interior intelligence) watch list for "aggressive proselytising" in a gym, and that the Turks deported him on request from the French authorities, who questioned him and let him go because he hadn't "proceeded to act." All of this was known to Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve a few hours after the attacks - he spoke to reporters about it at the injured soldiers' bedside.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby conniption » Sun May 03, 2015 5:44 am

Charlie Hebdo, USA, Daech and the 7 media lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOBgDaf20Xs
Michel Collon - Investig'Action
Published on Apr 9, 2015

It is for the sake of restablishing the dialog between both defenders of « I am Charlie » and « I am not Charlie » that Michel Collon brings to light the relationship between the United States and terrorism.

You can buy the book (in french) at: http://www.michelcollon.info/boutique...
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:44 pm

semper occultus » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:16 pm wrote:
Elvis » 19 Jan 2015 09:54 wrote:Maybe this has already been pointed out. A friend who lives in Paris says that the Charlie Hebdo group are considered "Trotskyites" and that "Trotskyism is used to divide the left."



.....always thought that was the Maoist sects.......

excuse the OT....interesting case here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25084830

A married couple suspected of holding three women as slaves for more than 30 years are former Maoist activists Aravindan Balakrishnan and his wife Chanda, the BBC understands.

Records of the Communist Party of England (Marxist-Leninist) show Mr Balakrishnan was suspended from the organisation in 1974.

He set up a splinter group in the same year called The Workers' Institute of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought.




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FILE - This is a Nov. 30, 2015 file photo of of Maoist cult leader Aravindan Balakrishnan, arriving at Southwark Crown Court in London. Cult leader Aravindan Balakrishnan, Friday Jan. 29, 2016 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for raping and sexually assaulting his female followers and keeping his daughter a prisoner in a secretive Maoist commune for three decades. (Anthony Devlin/PA, File via AP) UNITED KINGDOM OUT (Associated Press)
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LONDON — A cult leader was sentenced to 23 years in prison Friday for raping and sexually assaulting his female followers and keeping his daughter imprisoned in a secretive Maoist commune in London for three decades.

Prosecutors said 75-year-old Aravindan Balakrishnan, known as “Comrade Bala,” abused and brainwashed his followers into believing he had God-like powers, ensuring they were too scared to leave the tiny radical communist group he ran in south London.

His victims included two women and his daughter, 33-year-old Katy Morgan-Davies, who was born into the commune and was almost never allowed to go out in 30 years. Describing Balakrishnan as a “narcissist and a psychopath,” Morgan-Davies told British media he emulated people including Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin and Saddam Hussein.

Sentencing Balakrishnan, Judge Deborah Taylor said his treatment of his daughter from her birth to the age of 26 “was a catalog of mental and physical abuse.”

“These are grave and serious crimes conducted over a long period of time and you have shown no remorse whatsoever,” she said.

Balakrishnan was convicted in December of rape, indecent assault, false imprisonment and cruelty to a child. He was impassive as he was sentenced Friday.

The case came to light in 2013 when Morgan-Davies and two other women escaped the sect with the help of a charity and police.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:03 am

Who's all Charlie now?

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Charlie Hebdo Italy earthquake cartoon sparks anger

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Satirical [sic] French magazine Charlie Hebdo has been criticised on social media for a cartoon depicting Italian earthquake victims as pasta dishes.

The cartoon which features in its current issue refers to the town of Amatrice, one of the areas hardest hit by the 6.2 magnitude earthquake last week.

Amatrice is home of spaghetti all'amatriciana, a dish with ingredients including tomato sauce, and guanciale ham.

The image shows an injured man and a woman standing next to a pile of rubble from which feet can be seen. Each of the standing figures has been named after a pasta dish.

The bandaged man is shown under the words penne tomato sauce, a woman with burns is depicted as penne gratin, and bodies lying beneath layers of rubble as lasagne all beneath the heading "Earthquake Italian style".

The cartoon which is being circulated on social media has attracted huge criticism globally and in Italy it has made the pages of Italian national newspapers La Stampa and Corriere della Serra.

[...]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37260217


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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby guruilla » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:39 pm

:lol:

Poetic justice/fearful symmetry?
It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:26 pm

Now, facing heavy criticism for the lasagne funny, the satirists double down:

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"Italians... It wasn't Charlie Hebdo who built your houses, it was the Mafia!"
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stefano » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:42 pm

Satirical [sic] French magazine Charlie Hebdo has been criticised on social media for a cartoon depicting Italian earthquake victims as pasta dishes.


Gunmen have shot dead 12 people at the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in an apparent militant Islamist attack.


We're not really comparing apples to apples here.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:46 pm

stefano » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:42 pm wrote:
Satirical [sic] French magazine Charlie Hebdo has been criticised on social media for a cartoon depicting Italian earthquake victims as pasta dishes.


Gunmen have shot dead 12 people at the Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in an apparent militant Islamist attack.


We're not really comparing apples to apples here.


Well, I'm certainly not comparing apples to pasta here. You are though, there.
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Postby norton ash » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:55 pm

Being vulgar, insensitive assholes is one thing... would Voltaire defend their right to mock the suffering?... but being murdered for it is indeed quite another. Apple, orange.

Although I doubt 'Je suis Charlie' would have gained the traction it did if these celebs and journos were actually familiar with what an ugly piece of crap 'Charlie' has always been.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby stefano » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:57 pm

You seem to think

    people who last year expressed their support for the idea that CH journalists could publish what they like

    (even if it's out of line with common decency)

    without being killed

    are hypocritical if they today think, and say

    CH journalists are out of line with common decency

Is that what you think?

I take both those positions. I hate the Muslim-hating cartoons in CH, and don't mind saying so, and also find these Italian ones terrible. But at the same time I don't think publishing them excuses (/justifies /mitigates) the massacre last year, or that some Big Brother should intervene and tell them what they can put on paper.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby 82_28 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:59 pm

I don't understand me no French so that would have whooshed right over my head other than all the French words English uses. But yeah, disgusting. How do you even do that? If you have to ask "did you mean that satirically" obviously not getting the joke. What is there to joke about? Those fuckers had their very own tragedy.

I'm gonna use a French word here. It's called nuance.
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Re: Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:03 pm

stefano wrote:I hate the Muslim-hating cartoons in CH, and don't mind saying so, and also find these Italian ones terrible. But at the same time I don't think publishing them excuses (/justifies /mitigates) the massacre last year, or that some Big Brother should intervene and tell them what they can put on paper.


For the record (and to state the really bleeding obvious): Neither do I. And nothing I have written here or anywhere else would remotely justify suggesting or insinuating that I do.

In fact I take the radical extremist view that murders should actually be seriously investigated, both by the police and by journalists*. See this thread, throughout.

*Including all the sanctimonious Charlies who held up those placards in their newspaper offices.
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