Jani's at the mercy of her mind

[chiggerbit]

Re names:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi

[Project Willow]

Do voices that are being heard ever cross over into multiple personalties? Or are they always distinctly different? Generally speaking, not with reference to this particular child.

I've tried looking into that and no luck so far, but this is what I believe at this point. We all experience an internal voice, we hear ourselves think, and that is normal. Someone with DID experiences changes in the internal voice depending on which alter has control. The voice can sound younger or older, more male or female, etc. For the schizophrenic experiencing auditory hallucinations, the voice is intrusive of the internal thought voice and is experienced as coming from outside or being alien to the body. This suggests that different areas of the brain are active, or in the latter there is an impairment or disconnect with part of the brain that connects a sense of self with thought.

[MacCruiskeen]

Melanie H speaks... (Sorry, this is yet another real-life horror-story, but I have to post it in full. Who knows, it might get deleted. I'll resist the urge to put most of it in bright red and bold type; it speaks for itself.)

Melanie H

Hi Micheal,

My name is Melanie I found you and your wife on facebook.Your story is one that I know all too well.....My son started acting differently at age of 2...NOOONE believed me everyone suggested time outs and bad behaviour but I knew in my heart it was more....I took him too 4 doctors which I paid out of pocket on sliding scale due to me being single mom..We tried play therpay but nothing helped..The last therapist suggested I tape his esipodes so the doctors would actually try to medicate him she believed he needed it she believed that when he had his fits , that he really wasnt there he was escaping somewhere in his mind....

One night he had a massive fit I thoguht he was gonna break his neck he was stiffening and flinging his body soo much I was exhausted the fit had lasted actually over 4 hours consistent crying screaming wanting too be held yet violently attacking or pulling away when you tried too touch him..My brother (who was one of just put him in time out believers)was there he held him the last hour until he fell asleep because his body couldnt go anymore...In silence I heard my brother crying and I asked him whats wrong and he replied Im grown man he was thrusting me into wall with such aggression something Ive never seen before in a man much less a child of 4 yrs old...My reply was cold and detached and I said well maybe you should of try to put him in time out...He got the point...Right after that visit he was filmed having another fit and a social worker saw it and she wrote up a report and waalaa the I was brought to see a doctor and they gave me a diagnose of Severe Anxiiety and Impulse Control...They started him on Prozac and Risperal but Risperdal very strong and my son has asthma so after year they cahnged to Abilify....He has been hospitalized twice last July 5th was first time...I know how you feel its horrible I got one hour to see him and on Wednesday no visits at all due to lack of hospital staff(Katrina Area).I could call check on him but I wasnt allowed to speak too him other then monitored visit in this room about size of 1 bedroom apt with other families there, we couldnt go out in the open corridor because that is where the teenager section is located....

My son is barely hanging on they have introdcued him too a new therapist hoping he can pull him out of his sheel everyone feels another visit too hospital may be coming soon but we are trying too keep him together as best we can....Im still fighting too have a better disagnose too this day no Brain scans nor blood work have been ran despite the fact that his father has admitted that his dad has what he calls crazy disease and angry blood runs in his family he refuses too get tested but he admits he is mentally ill....Just like you I hate him being on meds but he also hates himself and is sad quite often a real smile or a hint of laughter or a joyful moment or a good day is something we both treasure because they usually arent too many ....My prayers are with you and your family...Dont give up EVER....Be strong because even though they cant say it they feel our disappointment and for them we need to remain positive and strong .....

In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity: Albert Einstein

This is our opportuntiy too Educate people.....
Friday, July 10, 2009 - 08:26 AM

Susan's Schofield's sole comment on all that? "You're right on Mel". Sic(k).

What lightningBugout said. And if these people are not actually competing with each other, then they are certainly confirming each other in their cruel madness.

[chiggerbit]

Hi Micheal?

[Maddy]

One night he had a massive fit I thoguht he was gonna break his neck he was stiffening and flinging his body soo much I was exhausted the fit had lasted actually over 4 hours consistent crying screaming wanting too be held yet violently attacking or pulling away when you tried too touch him..

I'm sorry, but this, again, sounds like autistic behaviour from what I have seen with both my friend's daughter and one of the girls, who was also autistic, in her class. These children are hyper-senstive to everything; sound, light, energy, change, you name it. My friend's daughter showed signs of empathy and telepathy (possibly because she couldn't speak).

This is a horror story. I am so enraged!

[chiggerbit]

(Sorry, this is yet another real-life horror-story

Come on, Mac, I think you're being unnecessarily harsh in the absence of more information than that.

[chiggerbit]

This is a horror story. I am so enraged!

If so, it is a horror story about the system, not about the mother, as far as we know.

[Zap]

Sorry, I think "January" is a cute name. April used to be a popular one, and before that, in the "olden" days, it was May and June. Well, and don't forget Tuesday Weld.

I like it too - didn't mean to suggest the name was the source of the problem, but that there did seem to be a connection between it and the names of her 'imaginary friends.'

[MacCruiskeen]

One night he had a massive fit I thoguht he was gonna break his neck he was stiffening and flinging his body soo much I was exhausted the fit had lasted actually over 4 hours consistent crying screaming wanting too be held yet violently attacking or pulling away when you tried too touch him..

I'm sorry, but this, again, sounds like autistic behaviour from what I have seen with both my friend's daughter and one of the girls, who was also autistic, in her class. These children are hyper-senstive to everything; sound, light, energy, change, you name it. My friend's daughter showed signs of empathy and telepathy (possibly because she couldn't speak).

This is a horror story. I am so enraged!

I'm sorry Maddy, but I see no need at all to stick any kind of diagnostic label on that poor desperate kid, even tentatively. To me it just sounds like a perfectly normal two-year-old boy tormented by ambivalent feelings about his helpless single mother, who has no idea what a two-year-old needs, no respect for his growing independence, and no feeling whatsoever for the kinds of frustration he can sanely be expected to cope with at that extreeemely young age.

So then -- get this -- the uncle steps in, grabs the child and holds him down on a bed for four hours. Why? Because that child was having a so-called "fit", aka a "tantrum". Or did the "fit" only begin AFTER the mother and uncle had deliberately or ignorantly frustrated his wishes and ignored his needs? It certainly sounds very much like it. In any case, the boy was in a state of rage and despair, and who wouldn't be, under the circumstances? Who the hell wouldn't be. And that 'boy' was practically still a baby.

..My son started acting differently at age of 2...(Of course he did! He was a growing child! He was becoming a toddler!) NOOONE believed me everyone suggested time outs and bad behaviour but I knew in my heart it was more.

"Time-outs"? "Bad behaviour"? Are they really serious? They are, they are, they are. They know no better. They think they're doing the right thing, god help them. Yet the poor woman can barely write or think straight.

The boy was two years old. There is no such thing as 'bad behaviour' at that age! How could there be? And his family are crushing the life out of him with the help of vicious and clueless quacks, while Susan Schofield applauds their sterling efforts.

It's just... unspeakable.

[Maddy]

I agree with you, McCruiskeen, and am certainly not trying to lable anything, simply giving an example of such behaviours that certainly are not schizophrenic. There are many reasons for behaviours in children, and parents behaving as these ones are, are definitely a major cause behind it. As I said, my friend's daughter behaved in that manner as a means of frustration. Obviously the child's frustrations (no matter what the causes) are the reason for the behaviour. The parents are causing or exacerbating such frustrations.

[lightningBugout]

Sorry, I think "January" is a cute name. April used to be a popular one, and before that, in the "olden" days, it was May and June. Well, and don't forget Tuesday Weld.

I like it too - didn't mean to suggest the name was the source of the problem, but that there did seem to be a connection between it and the names of her 'imaginary friends.'

For the record I think January is a great name (as long as its not given to a Connecticut debutante) but then, at the risk of sounding insensitive I think "400 the Cat" is a great name for an imaginary friend, scary-threatening one or otherwise. "Baby 58" sort of has its own dystopian Charlton Heston movie title charm too, but I'm afraid saying so may get me gored by the Jani's dad is a hero crowd. C'est la vie.

[justdrew]

Sorry, I think "January" is a cute name. April used to be a popular one, and before that, in the "olden" days, it was May and June. Well, and don't forget Tuesday Weld.

I like it too - didn't mean to suggest the name was the source of the problem, but that there did seem to be a connection between it and the names of her 'imaginary friends.'

For the record I think January is a great name (as long as its not given to a Connecticut debutante) but then, at the risk of sounding insensitive I think "400 the Cat" is a great name for an imaginary friend, scary-threatening one or otherwise. "Baby 58" sort of has its own dystopian Charlton Heston movie title charm too, but I'm afraid saying so may get me gored by the Jani's dad is a hero crowd. C'est la vie.

400-the-cat makes me think of underground comix artist Kaz's Smoking Cat...

[MacCruiskeen]

What's on TV?

[professorpan]

The Louis Wain cat pictures, long thought to be evidence of schizophrenic deterioration, have actually in recent years been analyzed using a lot of updated information about what we know of the art created by those with mental illness. I can't recall the conclusions offhand or supply URLs (I came across it while looking into some other Wain material), but just wanted to mention that its possible schozophrenic nature may be now less likely.

Thanks for that, Avalon. I've been fascinated by those pictures since I first saw them in the Time/Life book "The Mind" as a kid.

[Nordic]

One night he had a massive fit I thoguht he was gonna break his neck he was stiffening and flinging his body soo much I was exhausted the fit had lasted actually over 4 hours consistent crying screaming wanting too be held yet violently attacking or pulling away when you tried too touch him..

I'm sorry, but this, again, sounds like autistic behaviour from what I have seen with both my friend's daughter and one of the girls, who was also autistic, in her class. These children are hyper-senstive to everything; sound, light, energy, change, you name it. My friend's daughter showed signs of empathy and telepathy (possibly because she couldn't speak).

This is a horror story. I am so enraged!

I'm sorry Maddy, but I see no need at all to stick any kind of diagnostic label on that poor desperate kid, even tentatively. To me it just sounds like a perfectly normal two-year-old boy tormented by ambivalent feelings about his helpless single mothe

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Uh ....... no.

There's something seriously wrong there.

I don't know what your childhood was like, or what kinds of children you're familiar with, but that shit ain't normal.

I don't know what it IS, but it isn't "perfect normal", not even close.

It makes me think you really haven't seen any kind of this behavior in people, that you would call it "normal" and not expect to be laughed out of the room.

Have you ever actually seen mentally ill people in action?

I think you haven't.

And the kid was four, not two, when the four-hour "tantrum" took place.

Here we go again.