SC governor's whereabouts unknown, even to wife

[Col. Quisp]

I'm right with ya, Ninakat.

Something is fishy about this. Why doesn't this "Maria' come forward? Well I guess they could always pay some woman to pretend to be her. Why do so many gay republican so-called Christians pretend to be straight? Why? What is wrong with them? They are the ones who cling to discrimination against homosexuals. I won't live long enough to see true equality and that pains me.

[Penguin]

Definitely a gay little story
Hiking, hypocrisy and trails are fun!

[IanEye]

[pepsified thinker]

I've started a file for links to books/articles; something of a reading list--and that book's going on it.

[on edit: do we have a reading list thread? (could be) like the video-only or image-only threads, eh?]

[freemason9]

Sounds like true love to me, and that is something not to be taken lightly. It can turn your world around, make you break every promise, do things you know are wrong, and leave you broken and helpless. Love like that requires a great deal of you - your wife, your public life, your job, your position of power, they all must be sacrificed before that altar, and that love can render all that as dust in your your mouth when it cannot be fulfilled. Being governor of South Carolina? I pity a man to choose between that and a night of passion in the arms of his greatest love.

Fuck what's right. He should quit, resign now, give his fortune to his wife, and leave on the next boat for Buenos Aires. It's the only respectable thing to do at this point. But he's an American Republican politician. I hardly expect him to act like a man. It surprises me enough that he was human enough to fall in love.

This.

[freemason9]

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford carried on a lively e-mail exchange with his lover in Buenos Aires, praising her "gentle kisses," her tan lines and the "curve of your hips," [b]according to copies of the e-mails given to McClatchy's The State newspaper.

Oh my god . . . go back, man. She sounds like a far better alternative than your future here. A beautiful woman (complete with curvy hips and tan lines) exceeds everything.

I agree though, Ninacat. Something is seriously amiss here. Could this be a brand of Chicago politics? He did screw with Obama pretty seriously.

[chiggerbit]

[on edit: do we have a reading list thread? (could be) like the video-only or image-only threads, eh?]

Have you checked out the book forum, pepsi?

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewf ... 14d46ced56

[chiggerbit]

How convenient to have the e-mails so readily available too. I guess Sanford was just really sloppy about covering his tracks?

Comparing timeframes, didn't Sanford say that he and his wife started therapy or whatever it was around the same time that the newspaper says it received the emails? I say, consider the wife (or someone close to her, such as her father) as the possible source of the emails, as well as possibly the whistle-blower with regards to Sanford's "disappearance".

Also, the wife says she made him move out two weeks ago, so what happened two weeks ago? I have to say that he words his statements in a way that hints that he's planning on filing for a divorce. I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think so.

[compared2what?]

Sounds like true love to me, and that is something not to be taken lightly. It can turn your world around, make you break every promise, do things you know are wrong, and leave you broken and helpless. Love like that requires a great deal of you - your wife, your public life, your job, your position of power, they all must be sacrificed before that altar, and that love can render all that as dust in your your mouth when it cannot be fulfilled. Being governor of South Carolina? I pity a man to choose between that and a night of passion in the arms of his greatest love.

Fuck what's right. He should quit, resign now, give his fortune to his wife, and leave on the next boat for Buenos Aires. It's the only respectable thing to do at this point. But he's an American Republican politician. I hardly expect him to act like a man. It surprises me enough that he was human enough to fall in love.

This.

Agreed. But it's worth noting:



That was a man, baby!

Tho probably not really.

[Percival]

How convenient to have the e-mails so readily available too. I guess Sanford was just really sloppy about covering his tracks?

Comparing timeframes, didn't Sanford say that he and his wife started therapy or whatever it was around the same time that the newspaper says it received the emails? I say, consider the wife (or someone close to her, such as her father) as the possible source of the emails, as well as possibly the whistle-blower with regards to Sanford's "disappearance".

Also, the wife says she made him move out two weeks ago, so what happened two weeks ago? I have to say that he words his statements in a way that hints that he's planning on filing for a divorce. I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think so.

Well the wifes father is definitely in play here as Sanford said yesterday that he recently had a long heart to heart with his father in law and laid all the cards on the table and was seeking advice from him about how to handle this affair.

I have to say, IF these e mails are true and Sanford is telling the truth then this is really a non story, it is not like the other lady is a hooker or anything, it sounds like they truly fell in love and this is a classic case of forbidden romance. Not scandal material, even for a family values bible thumper like him, falling in love with other women does happen in my opinion, assuming this is what he says he it is. HOWEVER he does need to answer to the fact that he apparently used tax payer money to fund the trips to see this lady, THAT is the real story here IMO, not the affair. If she was a hooker or something like that, feed him to the vultures, but this seems like something out of Romeo and Juliet which really does make it smell funny but thats not to say it isnt true.

[ninakat]

Kevin at cryptogon has this to say regarding the e-mails:

What consenting adults do with their peepees is their business, but as this absurd spectacle unfolded yesterday, I didn’t see anyone asking: “How did a newspaper get these emails?”

There is no doubt that NSA would have intercepted these emails. First of all, they’re international communications. That’s just a no brainer. However, the fact that they involved a U.S. Governor and a foreign citizen probably means that the stuff was going into a database forever.

Looking at Maria Belen Shapur’s professional background (executive at a large agribusiness corporation, speaks several languages, including Chinese) it’s possible that she was a full time NSA target on her own. The U.S. routinely uses national intelligence means to benefit U.S. corporations operating abroad. With Governor Sanford on the scene, it’s easy to see how this link might have been a very worthwhile target.

Does this mean that the emails delivered to The State came from some sort of NSA leak? The potential is definitely there. To get at the likelihood of NSA involvement in this, we would have to know more about how Sanford sent the emails.

Did he use his official state government email account? Assuming he was that stupid, all of the messages would be available to some number of system administrators at the state. If he used something like Gmail, at work, while it’s still definitely possible that high level IT staff could have intercepted all of this information, it is somewhat less likely. The wholesale retention of a large organization’s network sessions is not trivial in terms of cost and infrastructure. Emails are routinely archived, network activity is routinely logged, but the actual contents of web sessions typically aren’t. For example, if someone went to gmail.com, most organizations would know that the employee went to gmail.com. Most organizations, however, wouldn’t routinely store what you read or wrote during the session. It depends. Obviously, if you’re working for some .mil or .gov outfit, I’d assume that your boss could sit your down and play back what did on the web like someone watching a movie on a DVD player.

But is South Carolina running a system like that? I doubt it, but maybe someone involved with the South Carolina State Government’s IT operations can tell us how much stuff is being pulled off the wire as part of standard operating procedure. Is the full session there? If so, sure, the emails could have come from work.

The big question is, did he use a non government email account on a non government Internet connection to carry out the conversations? If he did, it’s much more likely the work of NSA.

link

[barracuda]

An alleged picture of Ms. Maria Belen Shapur, from here.

[Penguin]

I have to say, IF these e mails are true and Sanford is telling the truth then this is really a non story, it is not like the other lady is a hooker or anything, it sounds like they truly fell in love and this is a classic case of forbidden romance.

Bah, how boring.

Except the NSA angle.
And well, not so boring, really.

[Col. Quisp]

No way did that "hottie" have a torrid love affair with Governor Ugly-face. Also, she looks awfully young and thespian-ish.

[chiggerbit]

OMG, his wife's family owns the Skil Saw company??? Holy shit, it's a wonder he hasn't been Skil-sawed by now.

Bzzzzzzzt.....