Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast

[justdrew]

ok that is a weird video but mixing it with the Talk Talk song is double plus weird.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Yeah, I started wondering about halfway through if it had been put up very recently, maybe even as a part of this whole "event" - it always seem to appear on the same page as the new video, and just has a very strange feel to it. But it was put up in January 2008, so I suppose it must be what it appears to be - a nuclear test-launch with a weird semi-computerised narrator set to the music of Talk Talk.

[82_28]

That's most certainly a missile. That ain't no contrail.

[Nordic]

Funny, at the zerohedge site, almost nobody in the comments (and there are a lot of them) believes the story that it was a contrail from a jet.

I'm seeing this more and more in my life, fewer and fewer people are believing anything the government/media tells them. About anything.

[nathan28]

Funny, at the zerohedge site, almost nobody in the comments (and there are a lot of them) believes the story that it was a contrail from a jet.

I'm seeing this more and more in my life, fewer and fewer people are believing anything the government/media tells them. About anything.

vaguely relevant, a reasonably vetted source (FROM THE CIA-MEDIA):
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18262-strange-norway-spiral-was-an-outofcontrol-missile.html






"jet... contrail...."

fucking_retarded.jpg

Why, why why why why the fuck is it that every nerd site on the internet that was tripping over itself to tell us that (rightly so) the Norway Spiral was a missile exhaust/contrail cloud, but now suddenly when the freaking US gov't says "hey there's a missile test" these same fucktards are salivating over the "it's a jet" story like they're face-deep in Christine O'Donnell's crotch?


I'm placing myself on time-out.

[Skunkboy]

Back in the 90's I saw a missle launch from Vandenberg. My sweetie and I were driving out to the beach to watch sunset, and we came up on an AP barricade just behind the last hill before you go down to the beach. There was a crack and a boom and this Peacemaker missle came up from behing the hill. It was like it was flying kinda sideways and up, but rather than continue sideways into the coastal range, there was an audible "click" with another boom, and this missle headed straight up, and started moving out over the Pacific. I read the next day in the paper, that it hit an island 6000 miles down range in the Marshall's. The missle in the video looks much larger and the contrail much bigger. The way I see it is, that either we are saying a big FU at the Chinese, or the Chinese are saying it back to us.

Sincerely

Skunk

PS. In early 1942 a Japanese submarine surfaced off the coast of Isla Vista in Santa Barbara and shelled the oil pier at Naples. They built a resturant in Goleta called the "Timbers" with the remnants of the pier. My neighbor when I went to school at UCSB, said that his neighbor would shoot at the conning towers of the Japenese subs with his 30.06 deer rifle as they cruised by in the channel.

[Occult Means Hidden]

Two alien invasion movies involving Los Angeles are in the works or being released. The first is Skyline to be released November 12th. The next is Battle: Los Angeles in 3/11 2011.

[82_28]

Who is this "POPE WEARS RED SHOES" clown? She "weighs" in on the " missile shit now.

[Luther Blissett]

Who is this "POPE WEARS RED SHOES" clown? She "weighs" in on the " missile shit now.

I played the other video of this young lady in my studio yesterday and my two coworkers were pretty transfixed by her rack, but, oddly enough, didn't have much to say about the content of the message.

Two alien invasion movies involving Los Angeles are in the works or being released. The first is Skyline to be released November 12th. The next is Battle: Los Angeles in 3/11 2011.

But this looks rather terrestrial. Rather mundane and terrestrial. Would anyone in their right mind think that this would help ticket sales?

[seemslikeadream]

But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.

"It’s a solid propellant missile,"he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]."

Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

It wouldn't necessarily have to come from a ship or a sub, just because it seemed to originate out at sea. They've had undersea nuclear installations for a long time. I was reading "The Problem of Violence" recently, published 1972, which had a good (if outdated) essay on the technical arms race:

...By the late 1960s things had begun to change. A major oceanographic research programme was begun by a small group of countries - mainly the nuclear powers. The reason was not hard to find. Nuclear detterrents, through constant product improvement, were in danger of being blasted off the face of the Earth by enemy missiles. The only long-term answer looked like concealing nuclear missiles beneath the ocean surface where they could neither be found nor destroyed. And so the oceanographic research bill began to rise very fast. Those who have watched this trend over the last five years may have been given the impression - quite deliberately - that this programme had to do with mining marine food and minerals. The sad fact is that these objectives were of secondary importance. In 1970, for instance, US funds for ocean research reached $528 millions [ Ha! Those were the days!]. Of that, the US Navy controlled $298 millions directly and a great deal more indirectly.

The Navy claimed that it's aims were altruistic... 'The ultimate aim is to exploit the ocean's vast resources of proteins and minerals.'... But what the US Navy says in public and what it says in private are different things. Thus Robert H. Baldwin, Undersecretary of the US Navy, told a private conference on 11 january 1966: "We are involved in deep ocean engineering because it contributes to our assigned missions; we are not in the business of exploiting the ocean's abundant mineral or living resources."...

Some 300 years ago Leonardo Da Vinci invented the submarine. He later wrote in his notebooks that he deliberately suppressed knowledge of his invention ' on account of the evil men who would practice assassination at the bottom of the sea.'

If there was an undersea nuclear launch facility 35 miles or so off such a heavily populated coastline (especially considering the extra wear and tear that the sea is bound to inflict on it) then the public would have to be kept very heavily in the dark about it. An accidental launch might well be passed off exactly as this one has been - "It wasn't me! It just came out of nowhere, and was probably nothing. Just forget about it."

[seemslikeadream]

http://164.214.12.45/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/NAV_PUBS/UNTM/201045/NtM_45-2010.pdf

"434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

[nathan28]

Okay, I just sent a major publication that ran the "contrail" story a reasonable appeal to journalistic integrity to follow these notices rather than rely on some stupid-ass crap about the gov't being a "conspiracy theorist". I did not use any swear words, did not call anyone a "retard", etc., although the piece consisted mostly of piss and vinegar and scorn. I even used my real name and email. I feel better now.

[Dradin Kastell]

The map of the sea test range, etc. :



http://www.navair.navy.mil/ranges/SEA/index.htm

SEA RANGE
Point Mugu, California
(FACT SHEET)

The Sea Range at Point Mugu, Calif., is DoD’s largest and most extensively instrumented over-water range that offers realistic, open-ocean and littoral operating environments. Located off the coast of Southern California just 60 miles northwest of Los Angeles, the Sea Range is uniquely situated with a highly instrumented coastline and off-shore islands; full-service military airfields; target and missile launch facilities; data collection and surveillance aircraft; and an experienced staff of technical personnel. The Sea Range consists of 36,000 square miles of controlled sea and airspace. Temporary expansion of the area is possible through coordination with local Navy facilities and the FAA. The range supports the test and evaluation of a wide variety of weapons, ships, aircraft and specialized systems for a broad spectrum of military, Homeland Defense, NASA, foreign ally, and private sector programs; from small-scale static tests to complex multi-participant, multi-target operations in dense electronic combat environments.

Instrumentation includes radar, telemetry, photo-optics and video, sea and air surveillance, voice communications, and data processing and displays. Time Space Position Information (TSPI), telemetry, communications and geophysics support is all available at the Sea Range. Overlapping instrumentation coverage is provided from sites at Point Mugu, Laguna Peak, San Nicolas Island, Santa Cruz Island, Vandenberg Air Force Base and Pillar Point. These ground-based assets are augmented by airborne instrumentation on NP-3D Orion aircraft to ensure effective data collection over the entire Sea Range. Dedicated high-speed data links enable real-time data transfer between Point Mugu and ranges and laboratories at China Lake, Vandenberg Air Force Base, and Edwards Air Force Base.

Aerial, seaborne and littoral targets are available through the Port Hueneme facility, which provides surface craft for seaborne targets; boats for aerial target recovery; and vessels to enforce security and safety zones.

Sea Range program support includes:

* Small-scale static tests to complex multi-participant, multi-target operations in dense electronic combat environments
* Coordinated air, surface, and submarine operations including carrier strike group exercises
* Submarine, surface, and air-launched cruise weapons (ship and land attack)
* Long-range, large hazard pattern weapons and experimental vehicle testing
* ICBM, missile defense, and Polar-orbit satellite launch support
* Littoral operations
* Joint engagement zone scenarios
* Multi-service, multinational test and evaluation and training exercises

With all the instrumentation, how can the Pentagon not know what is happening in this area at any given moment?

[AhabsOtherLeg]

.
They do know. They're just not telling.