King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby ray » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:33 pm

Radical Christian Fundamentalists like James Shelby Downard, Milton William Cooper, Texe Marrs, Fritz Springmeier, Michael A. Hoffman and countless others predated all of the Da Vinci Code's and the Last Templar's and planted all of those seeds that are growing into magickal beanstalks as I write. (At the same time, the Nation of Islam and sects like the Nuwabians were disseminating some of the same information in the inner cities.)

Their goal was simple- they were out to find strawmen and scapegoats to blame modernism and secularism and liberalism on.

-- Chris Knowles



Why the downer on Downard?

good question stephen -- self-styled "leaders" of the "synchomystic community" and their Esalen SS like chris knowles and similar apologists for the feminist/marxist Homeland Security State are starting to get a little (k)nervous about recent research expanding on downard's KK-33 essay, which wasn't the totality of occult-semiotic investigation, but merely a starting-point concerning one major element (the jfk assassination)

it turns out that the swearing-in/installation of lbj in air force one over love field in dallas, just after kennedy's slaying, is even more loaded in evidence than the trinity-underpass hit itself -- and that evidence very much supports downard's major hypothesis: that jfk's murder was not primarily an isolated event, nor even simply a political conspiracy, but a crucial operation in a much larger stream of year-king blood-sacrifices which are typical of matriarchal and goddess-worshipping cultures (like the modern secular west, which now has completely regressed to demonic/gynarchic melodramas and methods)

it's hilarious, not to mention pathetic, that knowles accuses downard of trying to scapegoat the left, given that the ACTUAL DEAD scapegoat in this case -- leftist jfk -- was sacrificed as a victim to the very entity that knowles and fellow lefties (and righties) serve, their great goddess (female collective power as upheld by greedy, cowed men)

neither jfk nor rfk would have signed-off on the takeover of america/the west by feminism and the p.c. politburo, so jfk was dispatched with All the Trimmings, and Johnson City Lodgemember Lyndon Baines Johnson was tapped for the gig, triangulated and sworn-in by wannabe goddesses Jackie, Lady Bird, and federal judge Sarah Hughes

next thing we know, why what a coincidence, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is written and passed, originally presented as a way of re-integrating black men as fathers back into corroding ghetto communities

instead, the Act permanently created and legalized the "protected class status" of all "minorities" -- most ridiculously including females as an "oppressed minority"

speaking of scapegoating there, mr. knowles, the wonderful "progressive" CRA '64 made permanent cultural and legal scapegoats out of an entire group of citizens: boys and men (especially white males, who became the focus for the culture's hate and iniquity)

rather than place the blame where it belongs (themselves and ourselves) knowles and others seek to delegitimize, character-assassinate, and censor those who present information unflattering to their goddess-grovelling, some-are-more-equal-than-others nightmare police state, which they can't admit has been an utter failure economically, politically, culturally and spiritually
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:08 pm

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The Feminist-Marxist Homeland Security State.

Now that's entertainment!

I found a police line-up photo of some of the feminists suspected in the JFK case:

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Original caption: Washington, D. C.: Members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Gen. D. M. Shoup, Commandant of the U. S. Marine Corps, pose for photographers in their conference room at the Pentagon today (Nov. 13th, 1961). Shown here around the conference table are left to right: Adm. G. W. Anderson, Chief of Naval Operations; Gen. G. H. Decker, U. S. Army Chief of Staff; Gen. L. L. Lemnitzer, Chairman; Gen. C. E. Lemay, U. S. Air Force Chief of Staff; and Gen. Shoup.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:25 pm

I did get a real deal belly laff out of "Esalen SS" though. Personally, I'll take feminist fascism over patriarchy "democracy" any day. I don't feel justified expecting anyone else to join me, though...in his most recent piece, Knowles really went off on Stargate Conspiracy, which surprised me. For a few seconds. Then I just kept reading. Different strokes for different blokes.

Reality is jagged and complicated. Legislation is always imperfect. The CRA also ended segregation and extended the right to vote -- that's still a significant improvement upon the pre-existing conditions. Sure, there's flaws, but focusing on them like you do is odd to me. Why? Different strokes for different blokes. Plus, you're wrong.

Edit: I don't ever mean to discourage ray from posting here. Counterpoint is key. ray is too tough to be fazed by mocking commentary anyway.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby 82_28 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:42 pm

So, Ray, what other things do you have to say about Knowles? I'm trying to get a feel for you. I read the dude and am somewhat interested in what he says. Also explain your vendetta against him. Not at all saying you are wrong, but I think you're wrong. Make your case outside of conventional Internet trolling.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:27 am

Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread for the impetus, material and brainfood that created this here:
http://www.skilluminati.com/research/en ... he_method/
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby semper occultus » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:38 am

nice one Wombat - I see you save up all the good stuff for your site ...

did you see Robert D. Steele linked to one of your pieces...?

http://www.phibetaiota.net/page/3/
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:34 am

JackRiddler wrote:.

The Feminist-Marxist Homeland Security State.

Now that's entertainment!

I found a police line-up photo of some of the feminists suspected in the JFK case:


They are all feminists of course, to the extent that feminism supports their grasp on power.

How about Elizabeth Forsling Harris, planned JFK's route and then published Ms. Magazine. And Steinem, of course, who was a CIA agent provocateur and dated the man behind the killing of Letellier.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:49 pm

semper occultus wrote:nice one Wombat - I see you save up all the good stuff for your site ...

did you see Robert D. Steele linked to one of your pieces...?

http://www.phibetaiota.net/page/3/


Hadn't, thank you. I'm very grateful to know he was reading.

I was actually auditing my paper trail a few days ago, though, mostly because I was curious to see what the old 5GW crowd was up to today. I really enjoyed that work, it opened me up again to the intellectual and subversive Conservative tradition, which as many RI heads know is a far more refined animal than the fallen inbreds who get paraded on TV. I was first impressed with that when I was researching on the history of school as social control in America -- it turned out Christians had already done all the best legwork, putting the secular conspiracy field to shame many times over.

So it tickled me to find out that my most-quoted / linked-to article was The Wit and Wisdom of Francis Galton, which has been embraced by the Anti-Darwin set as (compelling) proof of the moral bankruptcy and inherent racism of the Evolutionary paradigm. Which I'm fine with. Language winds up becoming a weapon one way or another...if my little essays can be converted into ammunition, c'est la vie and shit.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby stefano » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:25 pm

I'm very glad to see you're active again, Wombat. Good for you (and all of us).
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Crow » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:28 pm

Seconded.
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:45 pm

Wasnt Springmeier a hardcore white supremist holocaust denier who sheltered a neo Nazi bank robber? And isnt Hoffman the guy who publishes Holocaust Denial crap?

I swear, why are so many of the people who are the loudest "experts" on "occult sex crimes/illuminati/twilight language/government sex slaves" in reality anti Semitic racist douchebags or right wing blowhards with an anger problem?

Now I will say this, big "patriot/militia/anti NWO" folks like the late William Cooper and Jack Mclamb I believe to be sweet, kind, GOOD people. I would never lump these guys in with the racist/xenophobic hate mongers of the patriot movement. William Cooper exhaustively ranted against neo Nazis, white supremists, the klan and bigotry within the patriot movement; always lamenting that hate was a divide and conquer tactic of the elite. Alex Jones "claims" this, but then he pushes or publishes virulently anti Mexican and anti gay rants on his site or radio show.
And retired officer Jack Mclamb is also a good soul. He was probably the only one who came off as nice in the IFC film channel documentary "New World Order".
Did Bill Cooper and Jack Mclamb embelish, come off as paranoid, and fall into the "chemtrail/black helicopter/UN coming to take our guns" 90's era conspiracy meme? Sure. But I look at where people's hearts are.

Now, "King Kill 33" was one of the first conspiracy pulp tomes I read, back in the late 90's I believe when I started getting more online. What could have been an insightful look into esoteric symbolism, fortean topology and synchronicities turns into a mercilessly trite exercise in eye-rolling menutia. I like my Goro Adachi/Jake Kotze/etc. food for thought like anyone else, but geez.
I didn't think Doddard himself was a racit, just Hoffman

Finally, where did that first "5 in the morning high off something existential madlibs game" first appear?
You know, the one where someone mentions an obscure children's movie, claims the actor's name is a homonym for some unknown CIA agent or operation, and then creates this Kevin Bacon like tedious narrative?
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby 82_28 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:49 pm

I didn't think Doddard himself was a racit, just Hoffman


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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby Stephen Morgan » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:59 am

8bitagent wrote:Wasnt Springmeier a hardcore white supremist holocaust denier who sheltered a neo Nazi bank robber? And isnt Hoffman the guy who publishes Holocaust Denial crap?


Yes. Although I should point out that it's claimed to be a false accusation against Springmeier over him being a bank robber and that.

I swear, why are so many of the people who are the loudest "experts" on "occult sex crimes/illuminati/twilight language/government sex slaves" in reality anti Semitic racist douchebags or right wing blowhards with an anger problem?


Because those are the loudest people?

Now I will say this, big "patriot/militia/anti NWO" folks like the late William Cooper and Jack Mclamb I believe to be sweet, kind, GOOD people. I would never lump these guys in with the racist/xenophobic hate mongers of the patriot movement. William Cooper exhaustively ranted against neo Nazis, white supremists, the klan and bigotry within the patriot movement;


Of course Downard also didn't like the clan, what with them trying to kill him and assisting with the psychotronic manipulation of his bird, and covertly supporting miscegenation and so forth.

always lamenting that hate was a divide and conquer tactic of the elite. Alex Jones "claims" this, but then he pushes or publishes virulently anti Mexican and anti gay rants on his site or radio show.
And retired officer Jack Mclamb is also a good soul. He was probably the only one who came off as nice in the IFC film channel documentary "New World Order".
Did Bill Cooper and Jack Mclamb embelish, come off as paranoid, and fall into the "chemtrail/black helicopter/UN coming to take our guns" 90's era conspiracy meme? Sure. But I look at where people's hearts are.

Now, "King Kill 33" was one of the first conspiracy pulp tomes I read, back in the late 90's I believe when I started getting more online. What could have been an insightful look into esoteric symbolism, fortean topology and synchronicities turns into a mercilessly trite exercise in eye-rolling menutia. I like my Goro Adachi/Jake Kotze/etc. food for thought like anyone else, but geez.
I didn't think Doddard himself was a racit, just Hoffman


Have you read The Carnivals of Life and Death?

Finally, where did that first "5 in the morning high off something existential madlibs game" first appear?
You know, the one where someone mentions an obscure children's movie, claims the actor's name is a homonym for some unknown CIA agent or operation, and then creates this Kevin Bacon like tedious narrative?
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby yathrib » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:12 pm

Stop it! You're killing me! :) Seriously, it couldn't just be that they have established records for themselves as fascist asouls, and that they think they're somehow above backing up their bulls**t with references to anyone besides each other? You totally remind me of Edgar Cayce cultists who go all psycho when someone points out that Atlantis *didn't* rise from the sea in 1968. And I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'll support any organization that's against what Hoffman, Downard, Cooper, or youetc. are for. Ewige Blumenkraft! Heute die Welt, Morgens das Sonnensystem! Illuminati, I'm here for you!

And Ray, try to cut down on the meth.


ray wrote:Radical Christian Fundamentalists like James Shelby Downard, Milton William Cooper, Texe Marrs, Fritz Springmeier, Michael A. Hoffman and countless others predated all of the Da Vinci Code's and the Last Templar's and planted all of those seeds that are growing into magickal beanstalks as I write. (At the same time, the Nation of Islam and sects like the Nuwabians were disseminating some of the same information in the inner cities.)

Their goal was simple- they were out to find strawmen and scapegoats to blame modernism and secularism and liberalism on.

-- Chris Knowles



Why the downer on Downard?

good question stephen -- self-styled "leaders" of the "synchomystic community" and their Esalen SS like chris knowles and similar apologists for the feminist/marxist Homeland Security State are starting to get a little (k)nervous about recent research expanding on downard's KK-33 essay, which wasn't the totality of occult-semiotic investigation, but merely a starting-point concerning one major element (the jfk assassination)

it turns out that the swearing-in/installation of lbj in air force one over love field in dallas, just after kennedy's slaying, is even more loaded in evidence than the trinity-underpass hit itself -- and that evidence very much supports downard's major hypothesis: that jfk's murder was not primarily an isolated event, nor even simply a political conspiracy, but a crucial operation in a much larger stream of year-king blood-sacrifices which are typical of matriarchal and goddess-worshipping cultures (like the modern secular west, which now has completely regressed to demonic/gynarchic melodramas and methods)

it's hilarious, not to mention pathetic, that knowles accuses downard of trying to scapegoat the left, given that the ACTUAL DEAD scapegoat in this case -- leftist jfk -- was sacrificed as a victim to the very entity that knowles and fellow lefties (and righties) serve, their great goddess (female collective power as upheld by greedy, cowed men)

neither jfk nor rfk would have signed-off on the takeover of america/the west by feminism and the p.c. politburo, so jfk was dispatched with All the Trimmings, and Johnson City Lodgemember Lyndon Baines Johnson was tapped for the gig, triangulated and sworn-in by wannabe goddesses Jackie, Lady Bird, and federal judge Sarah Hughes

next thing we know, why what a coincidence, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is written and passed, originally presented as a way of re-integrating black men as fathers back into corroding ghetto communities

instead, the Act permanently created and legalized the "protected class status" of all "minorities" -- most ridiculously including females as an "oppressed minority"

speaking of scapegoating there, mr. knowles, the wonderful "progressive" CRA '64 made permanent cultural and legal scapegoats out of an entire group of citizens: boys and men (especially white males, who became the focus for the culture's hate and iniquity)

rather than place the blame where it belongs (themselves and ourselves) knowles and others seek to delegitimize, character-assassinate, and censor those who present information unflattering to their goddess-grovelling, some-are-more-equal-than-others nightmare police state, which they can't admit has been an utter failure economically, politically, culturally and spiritually
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Re: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in JFK assassination

Postby nathan28 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:26 pm

8bitagent wrote:Did Bill Cooper and Jack Mclamb embelish, come off as paranoid, and fall into the "chemtrail/black helicopter/UN coming to take our guns" 90's era conspiracy meme? Sure. But I look at where people's hearts are.


point of clarification: the earliest reference I can find to ch-mtr--ls is 1999, but I don't have bots crawling through the rubble of the usenet. I never remember seeing ch-mtr--ls mentioned on disinfo.com before the 2000s. At present it is hardly appears to be a '90s era thing. Take from that what you will.
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