I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto RI?

[82_28]

Yeah, thread title blows. I meant it in the colloquial sense and at the time that's just what came to mind. Anyhow, another way in which I meant it, is that a lot of the ground covered here is also covered elsewhere, but somehow people here manage to do it all "sanely" and with heart. I could have been lapped up into this intellectual and emotional abyss just as my friend has, checking out various websites, listening to various radio shows, contemplating, speculating and being generally confused at life and the state of things. Yet my mind needs the kind of shit one can find elsewhere (above top secret, chemtrail central, DU, Rense etc), but I don't need the racism, antisemitism, the paranoia, the survivalist shit, the condescension, the overall bad vibe. All I really want is some idiotic idealized "normal life" for myself and others. As 8bit says above, some of us have become "filters" for others and people ask us what we think. It's difficult being a novice expert in all things, but try we do and it's a lot of fun to come here and read and post.

So, as I was helped by the existence of our god, Jeff and the rest of all y'all, I thought I would ask how it is we can be a somewhat cohesive online community who covers all kinds of shit the "MSM" doesn't and also cover shit the "MSM" does cover and all the Fortean shit and "black-op-ish" woo shit in between -- and also to ask why it is and how to get people into the RI "frame of mind", not necessarily "come here" and post, but apply sanity to an insane existence and at the end of the day hopefully be helpful and not hurtful to everyone.

Anyways, I've tried the "intervention" thing. It's on the table. But he says I need to "change my schedule" if we wanna hang out.

[justdrew]

our god, Jeff

let's avoid that little turn-o-phrase ?

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I don't know what you can do for a newly minted conspiragoon. Typically they're going to be: unmoored and looking for easy answers and people to hang out with, if he's going gun shopping, I don't know what to say, you know the militia's are massive these days, according to the numbers, way, way more of them than there were in the 90s. and into crazy gawd shit too.

Frankly, I would say get as close as possible and see what you can find out. Are you sure he's not already signed up to Joel's Army or whatever the local band or morons call themselves?

[82_28]

our god, Jeff

let's avoid that little turn-o-phrase ?

Again, just going off the colloquial sense used up thread. I obviously didn't mean that obliquely, sarcastically, seriously or otherwise.

[Bruce Dazzling]

novice expert

I'm getting business cards for this!

[fruhmenschen]

I have said it before that RI is nothing more than a psychological soup kitchen for the conspiracy down and out.
RI is the place you go to for that warm and fuzzy feeling you get while hanging out with your
peers much the same kind of feelings other people get when they band together as an "out group" like AA
or MENSA or Daughters of Billitis.
An active barometer of the success or failure of RI is how many people take the information posted here
and transform society with it. Instead RI is nothing more than pschological Intravenous Drip for adrenaline
junkies who get their daily fix by reading the news instead of going out and making the news.
You do know what to do?

[norton ash]

I have said it before that RI is nothing more than a psychological soup kitchen for the conspiracy down and out.

Hey man, the fourth redundant link you just tossed over the transom landed in my soup. Watch it.

[Nordic]

I have said it before that RI is nothing more than a psychological soup kitchen for the conspiracy down and out.
RI is the place you go to for that warm and fuzzy feeling you get while hanging out with your
peers much the same kind of feelings other people get when they band together as an "out group" like AA
or MENSA or Daughters of Billitis.
An active barometer of the success or failure of RI is how many people take the information posted here
and transform society with it. Instead RI is nothing more than pschological Intravenous Drip for adrenaline
junkies who get their daily fix by reading the news instead of going out and making the news.
You do know what to do?

True to a point. I come here for information, mostly, but also to commisserate. (sic?)

I don't think your barometer is particularly accurate, though. To you, perhaps. To others, I'm not so sure. I quit trying to influence the world some time ago. I spent years at it and I still find myself compelled to do it, but it's mostly a waste of time, because, honestly, most people out there are just too damn stupid. Most don't even want to know the truth. They prefer their own flavor of cognitive dissonance. They don't want to be as angry as they KNOW the truth will make them, so they retreat into their little bubble of make believe. I've had guys basically tell me this when I've talked to them in person!

I just have some need, possibly genetic, to know the truth about things. I've always had it, and it's led my life into many different directions. This is just one of them.

Truth is elusive, of course, but in the world of current events it really isn't.

But it sure is hard to find.

I think some people here are more interested in creating a record. You know, like Henry Waxman never actually DOES anything in Congress but he also creates a paper trail. Like, for somebody else? For history? I don't know why Waxman's such a goddamn pussy considering he's actually (unlike the rest of us) in a position to do something about it, just using him as an example of how many people here seem more interested in simply documenting the truth than doing anything about it.

[fruhmenschen]

I would suggest RI have a Alumni News Thread where people can post their internal and external
transformations in their becoming and being.
Now for some more of that warm and fuzzy feeling, bring it on......my brain pan says to put the IV drip on full
throttle.......

[Luther Blissett]

I have said it before that RI is nothing more than a psychological soup kitchen for the conspiracy down and out.
RI is the place you go to for that warm and fuzzy feeling you get while hanging out with your
peers much the same kind of feelings other people get when they band together as an "out group" like AA
or MENSA or Daughters of Billitis.
An active barometer of the success or failure of RI is how many people take the information posted here
and transform society with it. Instead RI is nothing more than pschological Intravenous Drip for adrenaline
junkies who get their daily fix by reading the news instead of going out and making the news.
You do know what to do?

I certainly continue talking in the same way each time I leave this place. It is a struggle to find actionable purpose, but I try. Most of what I come up with is rather mischievous.

[82_28]

I too love this place, but mostly lurk and learn. When I have a thought on something, someone here will always post my sentiments far more eloquently and powerfully than I could ever hope to. Though I feel you people are kindred spirits, I freely admit I'm the one who is dragging down the intellectual pool's average here. I'm no dummy, so I can see how thoughtful and smart you people are. So I mostly lurk unless i have some direct experience on a subject. You guys are a fun read in these times.


In regard to the matter at hand:




Just sayin'... If you want to talk him out of it, tell him it looks ready for a fall. I mean, just look at that chart. Thing is, what if it doesn't? Giving financial advice is tricky. If its interfering with his relationship though, maybe he needs to turn it down a notch. Again though, what if he is the one being prudent?


Nordic,
Yep, that the way I did it. Build up your food stockpile gradually. Every other week when I went to the store, i got a case of this, a case of that. I looked for expiration dates and codes. Beans are alkaline, so they last about 7 years. I've got all sorts of beans and field peas. I have a stockpile. I figure, I'd be more than happy if disaster doesn't come, I can donate it all to a food bank when it is about to expire. Plenty of rice as well. I've transferred the rice into moisture proof containers.

Well, brother (sister?) you're lurking and also teaching. Thanks for all of your information in the heady days of the BP/Gulf shit. And also, thanks for this. I don't know how to tell him that all of this shall be all for naught. However, I agree with you, though not knowing jack shit about it.

[Bruce Dazzling]

I have said it before that RI is nothing more than a psychological soup kitchen for the conspiracy down and out.

RI is the place you go to for that warm and fuzzy feeling you get while hanging out with your peers much the same kind of feelings other people get when they band together as an "out group" like AA or MENSA or Daughters of Billitis.

RI is a grass-roots think tank for people who are fed up with bullshit and lies. People who are looking for the thoughtful analysis of their peers, as opposed to the predictive programming disguised as news that spouts from the corporate media. And yes, I DID say peers, but not in an elitist sort of way. I'm only saying that you can't get thoughtful analysis about the officially declared state of national emergency that's been ongoing in the U.S. since 9/14/2001, Obama's extrajudicial assassination program, and cluster bombs in Yemen from people who won't look up from college basketball long enough to make themselves aware of those realities. We're trying, as best we can, to fit the puzzle pieces together in a way that explains the madness that surrounds us, because if you don't understand the hows and whys of what's being done to you, then can never hope to do anything about it.

An active barometer of the success or failure of RI is how many people take the information posted here and transform society with it.

Fruh, there are like ... 30 (?) people on this board who post with any kind of regularity.

Meanwhile, there are between 6 and 7 billion people on the planet, the majority of whom go about their days perfectly content in the idea that they're getting all of the information they need from mainstream sources. But more importantly, they're convinced that people (like us) who feel otherwise and are searching for answers on alternative sites, or (gasp) conspiracy sites are batshit crazy.

It's REALLY difficult to transform people who, as Nordic indicated, "don't want to be as angry as they KNOW the truth will make them, so they retreat into their little bubble of make believe."

Having said that, though, I've slowly but surely managed to impact the lives of a handful of people over the past few years who are now looking at the world through an RI type of lens, but until there are many, many more of us, I feel that that's the best we can hope for. Expecting the one percent to change the extremely reluctant 99%, and suggesting that their failure to do so is indicative that they're doing nothing more than making themselves feel warm and fuzzy is missing the point.

RI is a tool for the attainment of knowledge that, in the long run, can hopefully lead to the societal changes that we're looking to initiate. But again, we can't change everyone over night. I can't speak for all of us, but lots of us are trying.

Instead RI is nothing more than pschological Intravenous Drip for adrenaline junkies who get their daily fix by reading the news instead of going out and making the news.

No, that's Godlike Productions.

[wordspeak2]

Not overnight, no, but all of us should smoke some pot, curb the negativity (it's cliche, anyway), and give it our best shot, because there's nothing to lose except the whole thing. It's just going to take some real creativity, psychedelic spirituality, and new approaches. A deep-truth "think tank" such as this is, imo, *extremely important,* though- one of the most important things.

[Nordic]

RI is a grass-roots think tank for people who are fed up with bullshit and lies. People who are looking for the thoughtful analysis of their peers, as opposed to the predictive programming disguised as news that spouts from the corporate media. And yes, I DID say peers, but not in an elitist sort of way. I'm only saying that you can't get thoughtful analysis about the officially declared state of national emergency that's been ongoing in the U.S. since 9/14/2001, Obama's extrajudicial assassination program, and cluster bombs in Yemen from people who won't look up from college basketball long enough to make themselves aware of those realities. We're trying, as best we can, to fit the puzzle pieces together in a way that explains the madness that surrounds us, because if you don't understand the hows and whys of what's being done to you, then can never hope to do anything about it.

perfect

[gnosticheresy_2]

I don't want to "turn others onto RI", I like what someone earlier said: the readership is self-selecting (wooo elitist ). This isn't a proselytising board and I wouldn't come here if it was, there are plenty of other places online you can go if you like that sort of thing.

tbh I've given up trying to tell people about RI related subjects. Life's too short and I'm not a preacher though if people come to me and ask I do try and be honest and not sugar coat things. Though when I told my better half that we should start stocking up on food the other night, she was fairly scared by that so really that tells me I've got more pressing domestic concerns than trying to persuade the unconvinced online or irl of the seriousness of our situation. I'd rather play with my kids, try and prepare as best I can and