Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

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Yeah, I can't get past the reptiles deal. Once I hear that, its over. Otherwise I generally like what he has to say.
Shapshifting? Rediculous.

AJ has a major hard-on for Rick Perry (Tx. Gov. that will likely be entering the Pres. race) these days. He is going to be on him like stink on shit. It should be fun.

[elfismiles]

For those playing the home game ...

- Terence is still communicating with friends from beyond the veil and one of those friends is unveiling lost tapes tomorrow night here in Austin...

CALLING ALL CENTEX RigInters and McKenna Fans!!!

The Terence McKenna Experience – June 25th, 2011
blog/elfismiles/the_terence_mckenna_experience__june_25th%2C_2011_b-27.html



Updated link to clips: http://luxmckenna.com/Motion%20Pictures ... tures.html

DMT - what?
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Last week I was hanging out and catching up with a friend who was very close friends with McKenna - he produced the ALIEN DREAMTIME psychedelic video featuring Terence:

http://www.google.com/search?q=alien+dreamtime+mckenna

Part 1 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru0W3x9EEDM

Full Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1948678069

He is nearing completion of a new similar psychedelic video featuring never before seen/heard McKenna recordings:

Lux McKenna
experiments with Terence McKenna
http://luxmckenna.com/Motion Pictures/motionpictures.html

He had brought over a copy of the previously mentioned DMT DVD which is produced by Austin folks - can't wait to meet them and talk about these developments...

Anyway, my friend also mentioned that, whereas in times past DMT was scarce and very hard to come by, it is now all over the place. He said he'd recently been to parties where folks were just giving the stuff away - these were not raves. He said there were kids on the periphery of one of the parties sitting around doint DMT and falling over - not having been told how to properly use it.

This always seems to happen and having these things be illegal just perpetuates this cycle of kids using things recreationally that were never intended for such. Though, given the incredibly short length of "intoxication" with DMT and the apparent lack of negative side-effects ... I've often heard it described as a 15-minute spiritual journey for the workaday world's breaktime.

- The Bill Hicks / Alex Jones Nexus: Alex has channeled Bill as well as performed as a standup at Bill Hicks memorial events and alongside Joe Rogan and Doug Stanhope (two comedians in the vein of Hicks) in Austin...

Russell Crowe plans Bill Hicks project
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Was Bill Hicks offed and did he instinctively know it?
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"The Austin Incident" [1-6] Doug Stanhope & Alex Jones Live in Texas [2004/8/13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2IZufncUVg


- Most of Alex's ideas about DMT probably come via Rogan and Booth; Booth being a best friend of Bill Hicks and how Alex met Bill. Rogan being a comic inspired by Hicks and into DMT...

Alex Jones and Joe Rogan Hit the Bong: Belly of the Beast
http://www.livevideo.com/video/FF2D909C ... hit-t.aspx

The Alex Jones Show - Joe Rogan DMT Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5S9mrE8Xg

Joe Rogan talks about DMT on the Alex Jones Show - May 27, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiAiaii8N_w

Alex mentions his precog dreams, Rogan says mil had DMT in 60s, McKenna told him that he (McKenna) first got DMT from scientist working with the military.

"Psychospiritual Evolution" and Bugliosi Vs. Bush
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Yep. Listening to yesterday's show and I am quite happy to hear the always pleasantly surprising Joe Rogan. He is apparently, among other things, a DMT wizard and he says that the human race isn't done evolving, which is the gist of "Psychospiritual Evolution."

[Canadian_watcher]

yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.

Handy phrase that, fits any situation, mind if i reuse it?

yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.

wintler, I don't know what in this thread got your back up.
I am sorry that I've brought anger out in you. I apologize.

I can tell this by your calling me 'faith based' (never mind the thunkers word, faith-based is enough).
I'm not okay with racism just as I'm not okay with whatever it is you want to call it when you dismiss me for what I am.

You explicitly tried to claim greater understanding and hence rank due to faith - that quote again:

..people who do not accept any sort of faith in their lives (not RELIGION, but FAITH) will never be able to realize the truth as I and others see it. ..

I said: "as I and others see it" Not greater understanding - different understanding. Perhaps, yes, a more whole understanding since I and others don't automatically dismiss things we can't directly prove. That's what I mean by faith. I think there's some kind of powerful social programming that makes some people unable to separate 'faith' from 'religion' even when it is specifically stated as being one but not the other.

Its a shame if you need me to support your belief that you were/are [more] 'able to realise the truth', because without evidence i just can't do it.

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no shame necessary, since I didn't ask for your support.

Can you not see how your closed mind might hurt you though?

[American Dream]

Canadian_watcher wrote:

It's something I wrestle with personally - to look out into the world and feel that there is no seemingly logical explanation for things like the prosecution of Dr. Burzinski (alternative cancer treatment,) BP not being bankrupt, millions of people dying ever day from bombs and starvation and treatable disease, poison in our atmosphere, etc etc etc. The answer cannot be mere greed.

People are struggling for answers and I think that people who do not accept any sort of faith in their lives (not RELIGION, but FAITH) will never be able to realize the truth as I and others see it. This is not a battle for control of resources based on the 3D plane. This is something larger. If AJ and Icke are searching in directions that make you uncomfortable, well, perhaps you ought to look the roots of your discomfort rather than writing them off. edit: I'm not saying that they have the answers - but that they are brave to search in non-traditionally accepted directions. They are on to something, IMO.

Spend more time with metaphysics and spirituality - especially consciousness. Do that, then come back and tell me that we aren't talking about a cosmic good vs evil battle here, with all the fantasical mind-bending that entails. Learn and Remember about ancient wisdom, and then come back and tell me that you believe it is impossible for the 'elites' to have cultivated abilities long forgotten by the rest of humanity.

At the very upper levels, this isn't about anyone's bank account - the middle men (and I count most of us in there, though) are bedazzled by their magic show of wealth and we believe, naively, that that is the source of their power.

That is how we are controlled and lied to.

Underneath, though, the idea that these are just thoughtless, greedy people running the planet shortsightedly does not wash. And more of us had better start searching deeper. REAL deep.

The answer to fear is love. The elite power is fear-based. Anyone whose power comes from fear is evil. I challenge anyone to try and effectively attribute a propensity towards true evil without some spiritual language or reference.

It's hard to know where to begin in response to this. One thing I notice is the black-and-white thinking implicit here: "It's either spiritual or material- good or evil.. Which is it?"


No!- Everything is eveything.

Gandhi famously said that G-d would only dare to appear to a hungry person as a loaf of bread. I would therefore suggest that since millions and millions are hungering for food and many more for basic justice, that the spiritual energies you speak of could only but appear to them in material form.

I would also point out that leading Nazis may have had a metaphysical view of life on Earth and framed things in terms of a great battle between the forces of good and evil but that does not make all their racist garbage right. David Icke and Alex Jones both carry a lot of racist garbage. And there are many, many critically important things which they get wrong, beyond that too.

Simply framing them as "spiritual seekers" does not change that.

[Canadian_watcher]

It's hard to know where to begin in response to this. One thing I notice is the black-and-white thinking implicit here: It's either spiritual or material- good or evil.. Which is it?

I think there are many subtleties - but in terms of good / evil - there is a difference and that difference lies in intent. Intent is always one or the other. Because of the complexities of different situations we will encounter problems which make it seem impossible to come to an entirely good or entirely evil solution, but action is not the same as intention.

Gandhi famously said that G-d would only dare to appear to a hungry person as a loaf of bread. I would therefore suggest that since millions and millions are hungering for food and many more for basic justice, that the spiritual energies you speak of could only but appear to them in material form.

Why isn't there a loaf of bread for them in the first place?

I would also point out that leading Nazis may have had a metaphysical view of life on Earth and framed things in terms of a great battle between the forces of good and evil but that does not make all their racist garbage right. David Icke and Alex Jones both carry a lot of racist garbage. And there are many, many critically important things which they get wrong, beyond that too.

Again, it is about intention.

We are very afraid of the 'racist' bogeyman. That's a problem.

Racism is evil. People are generally not. Racism as a tool to frame well intentioned people is evil. Well intentioned people who write off everything for fear of being lumped in to some sort of racist camp are living in their fear and not their love.

[American Dream]

Why isn't there a loaf of bread for them in the first place?

The grand cosmic battle of which you speak does not rule out the need for a clear analysis of social institutions, and a concrete plan of action.

We are very afraid of the 'racist' bogeyman. That's a problem.

Not if we're speaking about the garbage attached to the "spiritual" perspectives of the Nazi elite, David Icke, or Alex Jones.

[Searcher08]

This is the full 12 minute clip, gets into PKD, non human entity interfacing, etc.



This has to be the funniest yet frightening AJ clip Ive ever seen...not sure what to make of it. But I find it brilliant. Seriously, ya gotta see the whole thing.

Holy Jebus - I dont know whether I was witnessing

Uber-ironic performance art par excellance,. which AJ did as a bet over a few Tequila Slammers with Paul Watson?

Someone who has just experienced his first Journey Into The Bright World with
Vitamin 'K' - it made me think of friends in the 90s whose whole energy was 'overclocking' from K. Do too much and the Cosmic Speed Cops WILL bust you.?(*)

Someone who needs a holiday?

An accuurate assessment of the belief system of several elite factions?

Thing is, he came across to me as genuinely disturbed by a layer of information he had found out that was utterly off the scale of believability for most of his audience - and was being driven by his primal desire (his 'bullhorn' gene) to tell people about it with his unique conflation of intensity and voulme... but knowing they wont believe it cos it's so batshit insane sounding.







(*)"If captains of industry, leaders of nations could partake of this love medicine the whole planet might be converted into the Garden Of Eden...At no time did it seem possible that I or anyone else could become a 'ketamine junkie' " Marcia Moore, Journeys Into The Bright World

But one cold, winter night in early 1979, Moore disappeared from her home. Two years later, her skeleton was discovered in a local forest. She had climbed into a tree, injected Ketamine, fallen unconscious and frozen to death. She was 50 years old.(1)

[Canadian_watcher]

Why isn't there a loaf of bread for them in the first place?

The grand cosmic battle of which you speak does not rule out the need for a clear analysis of social institutions, and a concrete plan of action.

absolutely. of course! no argument. we have to use the cards in the deck we currently have. I want to expand the deck is all.

On this planet of such plenty what could be the underlying 'reason' for masses of people to starve anywhere? Bureaucracy? that's an excuse. Love of money? excuse. Don't get me wrong - both are real reasons for the lack of food at the tables of the hungry. But what accounts for the bureaucracy or the love of money? What *really* accounts for it? Isn't it the banality of evil?

We are very afraid of the 'racist' bogeyman. That's a problem.

Not if we're speaking about the garbage attached to the "spiritual" perspectives of the Nazi elite, David Icke, or Alex Jones.

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yeah, I say that it is. Missionaries have brought food to populations that were hungry. They traded the food for attendance at their churches. They were after the minds, of course, as the ultimate prize. This from some perspectives could be looked at as an evil purpose even though many missionaries were likely extremely well intentioned (themselves having already been taken in by evil higher up the food chain)

The people, though, who partook of the food and sat in the pews.. what of them? They might not have liked the sermon but the food nourished them just the same. it was possible to eat and not be converted. see what I'm saying?

[Canadian_watcher]

@Searcher - I like your take on it.

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Very informative clips, especially the last clips elfismiles. Much needed context re:DMT/AJ. He is much clamer and informative in those. Joe Rogan is a great interview too.

I agree Searcher.

[wordspeak2]

That was one of the funniest clips I've ever seen, Alex Jones declaring that the global elites are controlled by DMT elves (he doesn't offer evidence or any such thing, but who needs that when you're AJ?)

I've encountered the DMT beings/"elves". I can say that they're profoundly *good* forces and that global fascists certainly have no idea what to make of DMT, and people like that aren't open enough to have a breakthrough DMT experience. Their drugs are alcohol and coke. Yes, they've been interested in every psychedelic- of course they would be- but that doesn't mean they have a clue what to make of it. Or I'm wrong and David Icke is right or whatever, and the Bohemian Grove crowd is well aware of an intergalactic or transdimensional struggle at which DMT, a literally alien force (perhaps) is at the apex. Could be. But I'll tell you one thing for sure- DMT is not on the side of the fascists.

Imo, if anything is true hope for humanity's salvation, it lies in the depths of the DMT and deep mushroom experience. It's beyond the beyond the beyond; to quote McKenna, it's not only stranger than you suppose; it's stranger than you *can* suppose. LSD is not the same, but with DMT and mushrooms we can do *anything.* It somehow allows us to see into another dimension that is in fact real... as real as this one. What to make of it exactly? I don't know, but I've had the extremely powerful visceral feeling that in this experience lies The Answer, the way out of Babylon. DMT is an entity, or a collection of entities (an "ecology of souls," McKenna called it) that is *trying to communicate" with the explorer. I think that's the key; it's a communicative experience. Mushrooms, too, if you can get that far. McKenna developed a relationship with the mushroom in which he spoke to it, and it spoke back. Take that at literal face value.

McKenna, though, was politically naive. One wonders if he would be so naive today, in a post-9/11 world. Bill Hicks was someone who was not naive, being pro-psychedelic, hard left politically, and funny to boot in a working-class way, which made him extremely threatening to the control system, and he was in all likelihood offed (was McKenna offed, too?) With McKenna remember that he was coming out of a late sixties era that was very polarized in terms of psychedelic heads against hard-core politicos. Take Timothy Leary on one extreme and Progressive Labor Party (Marxist/Maoist) on the other. Few notable people transcended this dichotomy, with Jerry Rubin and the Yippies perhaps being an exception. So McKenna took one side, as an imperfect person. But, still, he dedicated a lot of his life to exploring mushrooms and DMT, and he took the cat out of the bag, so to speak. It's up to conscious people decades later to run with it.

Alex Jones is a right-wing Christian who needs to smoke some pot, never mind mushrooms. He does vast disservice to the rest of us genuine truthseekers- sorry, apologetics- even though he does articulate "World War 3" better than most leftists, which is just a very sorry state of affairs. But, anyway, ignore him. There's a real struggle going on, in which those DMT "elves" somehow lie at the apex.

[8bitagent]

Regarding Terrence Mckenna: I agree with him about the 90's era and current right fringe paranoia. No point in living in or preaching fear. The 1986 film True Stories by the Talking Heads has a great video spoofing the whole Mason-Bilderberg-CFR-Trilateral control the world meme:

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I agree with a lot of what Mckenna says, but I think he may have been a bit naive

I will not entertain Icke, but do listen to Jones on occasion. Now what other RIers do, that is their choice, even if they want to bash and denigrate. I join in at times. More often though, I find myself defending Jones at least. I still hate it when he stupidly does the juvinile things like calling Rachel Maddow 'Mr.Maddow, oh I'm sorry'. Or when he doesn't include peace groups or other traditional left groups being included along with 'patriot' groups as being on the terror watch lists. He used to, but he hasn't in a while. In fact, I could go on and on about his failings and foibles, but that is beside the point. The purpose he serves in my opinion, is to wake up the righties. He is one of them, yet not one of them. He completely blows up their programming.

There is no one on the left with his exposure, doing/saying the things he does. There are reasons for this, but the fact remains, he is doing vital work, imo.

This is why I stopped tuning in occasionally to AJ. Because he just went full bore into appealing strictly to the right wing patriot types. The obvious homophobia, the endless "illegals are invading",
the endless "climate change is a hoax/environmentalism is a control scheme", etc

I don't agree with Maddow at all on OBL or 9/11, but she's been one of the few to personally speak out on the anti gay death squads in Uganda, Senegal and Jamaica AND is the only msm show thats dedicated whole shows to the crimes of Dyncorp, Haliburton, Blackwater, and KBR. During the 9/11 - Bush war truth focus on his site and show, he routinely had leftist guests on.

However, then Jones will go on these rants about how the elite hates blacks and wants people to be racist. I just would remind him, that the elite also hates gay people despite homosexual acts they may engage in in private. I'd be speaking out on the oppression of gays around the world instead of dismissing gay rights entirely.

[8bitagent]

I understand AJ, but why is everyone down on Icke? Ive never known him to say xenophobic stuff or shout at people. Hell replace reptillian with NHI and is he saying anything different than what Jeff has been blogging? I think the guy is brilliant, especially when you hear his interview on sept 19th 2001

I just want to chime in right off the bat and say that it is my sincere believe that there is something much deeper than just a lust for money and power motivating the 'elites' (for lack of a better term).


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Underneath, though, the idea that these are just thoughtless, greedy people running the planet shortsightedly does not wash.

I've no doubt of this. A few years ago I would have laughed at the notion, but way too many coincidences that go beyond synchronicity.
The whole 9/11 plane number=Crowley specific numbers and the 9/11 targets as esoteric structures. The Princess Diana crash dripping with esoteric symbology and numbers.

WW1 ending on 11:11:11. The occult origins of the trinity test/openheimer. Jack Parsons. All the stuff the Nazis were into. John Dee(not saying he was a bad guy at all, but it illustrates how all leaders seem to be lead by something...else) The street formation of DC and the hexagram filled one dollar bill. All coincidences?

Well, I agree at one point when does all the genocide, wars, slaughter stop simply being misguided greed...and more like spiritual food? Hell, look at all the abuse that secretly goes in in Scotland by officials.

[American Dream]

I understand AJ, but why is everyone down on Icke?

What he says about Jew, er-zionists and reptilians, for starters...

Even if he says it without ranting llike Mr. Jones...

[undead]

Dear Lord... these really are the end times, aren't they. Fuck you Alex Jones. Fuck your subconsciously fascist christian reptile midbrain. Disgusting.

At this point I think that one of the last hopes to save the human habitat on this planet is turning on the children of the elites to ecological awareness. They are the inheritors of the current system and they are going to be in charge once their parents become senile (now? very soon?) and die. I really believe that a psychedelic coup is the last chance. It should be clear by now that psychedelics and herb were the main reason why there was a mass movement to save the environment in the first place. Taking a significant dose DMT is a world-shattering experience that can change a person's perspective on life completely, and that makes it a powerful tool for ecological fundraising. Ayahuasca and mushrooms also have potential as cancer treatments, and not just for end of life anxiety.

In reality it doesn't matter if DMT elves are real or not, only who believes they are and what that means to those people. If the ideas of Terence McKenna motivate people to do good things, then that's great. We saw what the CIA did with LSD, and that makes me doubt they would be able to even handle the DMT experience, since you can't control it at all. I think that many of the elites smoke herb, probably in secret out of embarrassment. Probably they read about the annunaki mythology and adopt that idea out of conceit - i.e. that they hold power because they are descended from space aliens that came here and put their ancestors in charge a long time ago. So in a way they could be into DMT via romanticizing the mushroom trips of the first patriarchal Sumerian priests. The skull and bones society uses a lot of Sumerian motifs and I think that lends credence to this idea.

I think it's possible that some of the elites take some psychedelics. These would be the oddball ones, like Soros. It's not really a stretch to think that Soros smokes some herb some times. Just because they do it doesn't mean it will make them better, more tolerant people, though. Washington and Jefferson both smoked herb, and still founded a system in which the people that gave them that gift were enslaved. That's probably where the masonic mythology about King Solomon came from. The United States is a good example of what happens when one or two elite members have a nonconformist experience - they shake things up, make some changes, and when they die their ideas are continuously distorted and eventually lost over time.

There is a long list of influential figures who used mind altering substances and had a dramatic impact on the course of human events. Rene Descartes smoked hashish cigarettes, and his opinion that humans should dominate nature was based on a vision on a winged demon. Isaac Newton was obsessed with alchemy, the study of which led him to invent foundational scientific principles. Francis Crick used LSD, and probably cannabis as well (he founded one of the first legalization groups).

Alex Jones is an idiot who is afraid of things he doesn't understand. If the elites were using DMT, they would at least realize that they are not going to survive the coming ecological catastrophe. That is the main reason there is an ecological crisis - the people in charge think that they can survive while they completely destroy humanity's ability to inhabit the planet. They can't. They can't build a spaceship. They can't even build enclosed habitats. There isn't enough time and they aren't smart enough to figure out how to do it. At this point the only way to survive is to cure cancer. This is a possibility, if we can some how get rid of the suicidal robots that want to eradicate the few plants that could provide a clue about how to do that.

But who knows - maybe some of them do use DMT. Definitely not 70 years ago, though. Jones is an idiot - fuck him. I have never been more convinced that he is an agent. He basically just equated the psychedelic movement to the IMF for all the normal people who are just becoming aware of the global elite control scheme, now that it's so obvious. This shows you how interested they are in keeping a lid on legalization of these substances, because they know that they can't control them. Whether or not Jones is conscious of his role (probably not), he is their favorite tool right about now.