'Freak' elevator death at Young & Rubicam spook firm.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

[
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Add a 0.1 kiloton micronuke in the basement - there were highly elevated tritium levels at the WTC after the blasts. These things EASILY transportable by a couple of people - there was a film on yT of a battlefield nuke being fired in the 1960s. It was TINY.

No..."micronuke tritium"....anywhere. Real turd in the punch bowl entry. No surprise.

[Iamwhomiam]

I find Hugh's posts interesting. What I do find disturbing is the unnecessarily scurrilous remarks of some of our posters. If anyone thinks those kind of remarks add anything positive to RI they are sorely mistaken.

edited once to insert missing 'c' in scurrilous.

[DrVolin]

My my. Just three fatalities in a year. But this one has lots of psyops fingerprints...

Now we're getting somewhere. Perhaps you can look at other recent NYC elevator fatalities to see if you find psyops fingerprints. At least some of them should be straight accidents:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/nyreg ... vator.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/nyreg ... vator.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... escalators

And here is one from Sept 12th 2008:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/nyreg ... escalators
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/nyreg ... escalators

[MacCruiskeen]

I find Hugh's posts interesting. What I do find disturbing is the unnecessarily surrilous remarks of some of our posters. If anyone thinks those kind of remarks add anything positive to RI they are sorely mistaken.

Mea culpa. I am crippled with remorse for my inextusable surrilousity.

Hugh... goddammit, man, I was sorely mistaken. May the good Lord forgive me. Nobody's disagreements with you have added anything positive to RI, least of all mine. I hope we can all learn to live with ourselves for having doubted your word. A lack of faith is a terrible thing.

So, now that it's been established beyond all doubt that Young & Rubicam murdered their own obscure employee with extreme and unnnecessary gruesomeness in order to gain publicity from that murder (for some reason), where do we go from here? What have we all learned from this experience? And how does our learning help us?

God forbid any of us should waste time.

[Searcher08]

[
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Add a 0.1 kiloton micronuke in the basement - there were highly elevated tritium levels at the WTC after the blasts. These things EASILY transportable by a couple of people - there was a film on yT of a battlefield nuke being fired in the 1960s. It was TINY.

No..."micronuke tritium"....anywhere. Real turd in the punch bowl entry. No surprise.

I found your response very rude.
There was once a time when you would have politely engaged with most people here.
That time has LONG passed, hasnt it?

http://911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_de ... erview.pdf

There is a debate about the subject. Just because someone YOU follow with a theory YOU like questions it, when did you become the moderator of all conversation?

You talk about the importance of scientific method, until it challenges or contests YOUR assumptions.

Then you are silent.

SOP for reductionists, nach.

[DrVolin]

I would ask all posters to please remain civil and on topic.

[MacCruiskeen]

I would ask all posters to please remain civil and on topic.

Speaking from long and very painful experience of HMW's more grotesque threads, I would ask you not only to tell us, but to demonstrate, how it's possible to do both simultaneously. (I did learn basic juggling more than twenty years ago, but I'm certainly no expert.)

Please, Dr. Volin: show us the way, but do go all the way: do actually argue with HMW, if you can manage it, and for as long as you can manage it without either getting sarcastic or withdrawing discreetly (or even with a stream of swearwords). "Civil and on topic", as you so wisely advise. Because it's very easy to sit on the sidelines and disapprove, and god knows I am willing to learn, especially from any real master.

In any case, I have been neither uncivil nor off-topic. Just impatient of sheer timewasting nonsense.

[DrVolin]

I am not certain how masterful, but here are some of my efforts:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33380&p=431357&hilit=hugh#p431357
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32612&p=415585&hilit=hugh#p415585
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32779&p=419317&hilit=hugh#p419317
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23833&p=263544&hilit=hugh#p263544
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19811&p=207710&hilit=hugh#p207710

And on my take on Hugh's even more misguided (IMO) and fairly blind adherence to a specific form of the CD theory, see this entire thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23492&p=259813&hilit=hugh#p259813

and this one:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19518&p=203527&hilit=hugh#p203527

One thing that I notice by doing this search is that Hugh never (?) seems to respond directly to my posts. Make of that
what you will.

[DoYouEverWonder]

My my. Just three fatalities in a year. But this one has lots of psyops fingerprints...

Now we're getting somewhere. Perhaps you can look at other recent NYC elevator fatalities to see if you find psyops fingerprints. At least some of them should be straight accidents:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/nyreg ... vator.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/nyreg ... vator.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... escalators

And here is one from Sept 12th 2008:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/nyreg ... escalators
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/nyreg ... escalators

Did any of the other three make national news?

[Searcher08]

I would ask all posters to please remain civil and on topic.

May I politely enquire then of Mr Wins ...

a) whether he has read the reply to the issues raised by Steven Jones concerning a radioactive aspect to the 9/11 affair and

b)what MrWIns thinks as regards the Fuel Air Explosive in the elevator shaft in the context of a 'belt and braces' approach to WTC vertical to horizontal implementation

c) Young and Rubicam are pw0n3d by WPP

who are run by Sir Martin Sorrell


Y&R is as significant as a pimple on WPP's buttcheek. WPP has 150,000 employees.

WPP and Martin Sorrell are infinitely larger, more interesting and more worth investigating.

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[barracuda]

Did any of the other three make national news?

I don't think so, though you might say that a story in the NY Times is national news by default. However, none of the incidents posted by the good Doctor were anywhere nearly so utterly gruesome as this recent incident, which, (and this would seem to bear on the consideration of the incident as a murder) was witnessed by several individuals as it occurred (watched in horror), and subsequently interrupted business in that rather substantial midtown building after ten a.m.

How many people do you suppose were sent home from work that day when the building was evacuated?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

[
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I found your response very rude.
There was once a time when you would have politely engaged with most people here.
.....

Sorry. It took me 14 seconds to find the disinfo spew from your cited source, "Dmitri Khalezov."
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/14 ... manhattan/

He claimed that there was no oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. It was all a scare tactic. He's a professional disinfoteer.
That's why he's pushing nukes on 9/11.

Back to topic, please??

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Oh, look. How timely. Young and Rubicam and "CIA" in professional news.
One of those inside jokes. Like CIA-Disney's video game division being named 'Propaganda Games.' No, really.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001 ... icom-group

[

size=150]Ad agencies, clients, play musical chairs[/size]
On marketing, etc.
December 11, 2001
.....
MediaEdge, CIA to merge: WPP Group is merging its newly acquired media buying firm CIA with The Media Edge to form a new media planning and buying ship--Mediaedge:CIA. The awkward name combination with the colon had some insiders wondering what it is supposed to mean, but one thing seems clear: WPP apparently wants to combine the operations swiftly--before Jan. 1. What that means in Chicago is not yet known. Though CIA has a much bigger local presence, Media Edge has abundant space in [size=200]Young & Rubicam's headquarters on North Michigan Avenue. The new company, resulting from WPP's recent acquisition of the Tempus Group, boasts combined billings of $17 billion.
.....

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The internet news pages I saw with this elevator death story also carried a story about green hair problems...in Sweden.

One of the scenes in 2001's CIA movie script, 'The Shaft,' the single most damning pre-9/11 script, was of a blind man being given green hair by a vindictive hairdresser just before he
falls into...The Shaft.

No coincidence. SEO manipulation and psyops at a key time. The internet is perfect for juxtaposition manipulations.

[justdrew]

I see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPP_Group in 2010 bought up Blue State Digital

this WPP thing, tax evading shit heads, is really spooky. Y & R is apparently mentioned all the time on Mad Men fwiw.